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Hi, I love my Xperia T but there is one thing that bothers me. I noticed that every xperia T has that automatic screen dimming when viewing darker media on your screen. For example, when i turn on facebook app, before the actual app opens there is dark grey screen. During that sequence screen gets darker, and when white facebook page pops up you can actually see screen adjusting its brightness to higher "normal" level. That really bothers me especially when gaming. On dark sequences screen gets really dark, and than it takes second or two to adjust normal brightness when brighter sequences appear. You can actually see brightness going down when darker images are displayed, and then back up again when brighter images appear.
So I'm not talking about dimming when overheating or flickering (that second is fixed by jellybean update as I noticed), or etc. And before you ask me I if turned on autobrightness in display settings, it has nothing to do with that.
My question is, is there a way to turn this off because it is really annoying?
naga.nino said:
Hi, I love my Xperia T but there is one thing that bothers me. I noticed that every xperia T has that automatic screen dimming when viewing darker media on your screen. For example, when i turn on facebook app, before the actual app opens there is dark grey screen. During that sequence screen gets darker, and when white facebook page pops up you can actually see screen adjusting its brightness to higher "normal" level. That really bothers me especially when gaming. On dark sequences screen gets really dark, and than it takes second or two to adjust normal brightness when brighter sequences appear. You can actually see brightness going down when darker images are displayed, and then back up again when brighter images appear.
So I'm not talking about dimming when overheating or flickering (that second is fixed by jellybean update as I noticed), or etc. And before you ask me I if turned on autobrightness in display settings, it has nothing to do with that.
My question is, is there a way to turn this off because it is really annoying?
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Have you unchecked adopt to lightning conditions already?
thrize45220 said:
Have you unchecked adopt to lightning conditions already?
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Can you read my last sentence before question, please? It has apsolutely nothing to do with that. "Adopt to light conditions" means adopt to light conditions in your sourrounding, not in your screen light conditions.
naga.nino said:
Can you read my last sentence before question, please? It has apsolutely nothing to do with that. "Adopt to light conditions" means adopt to light conditions in your sourrounding, not in your screen light conditions.
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All i thought it differs to auto brightness thats why i ask it sir. Sorry for the question then
You dont have to apologise. So, the problem is that when you watch darker images, or videos, or just any darker screen on your display, contrast and brightness goes down. And when you switch to brighter screen you can actually see, with your naked eye, brightnes going up. I see that Sony intentionally put that feature, but it is very, very stupid one. There is no point in making dark images even darker with even less contrast. I assume they wanted to achieve better black levels that way, or I don't know, but it is very stupid way of doing black levels more black. And, of course, there is no setting in settings menu tu turn this nonsense off, nice one Sony!
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You dont have to apologise. So, the problem is that when you watch darker images, or videos, or just any darker screen on your display, contrast and brightness goes down. And when you switch to brighter screen you can actually see, with your naked eye, brightnes going up. I see that Sony intentionally put that feature, but it is very, very stupid one. There is no point in making dark images even darker with even less contrast. I assume they wanted to achieve better black levels that way, or I don't know, but it is very stupid way of doing black levels more black. And, of course, there is no setting in settings menu tu turn this nonsense off, nice one Sony!
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This similar annoying ass feature is there in my Spectre laptop. This was supposed to be a battery saving feature and I haven't yet found a way to turn it off. Maybe it's also a way to get higher black levels.
This is the Bravia Engine. Just unselect Settings -> Display -> Mobile Bravia Engine
thedisturbedone said:
This similar annoying ass feature is there in my Spectre laptop. This was supposed to be a battery saving feature and I haven't yet found a way to turn it off. Maybe it's also a way to get higher black levels.
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Dude, this is definitely not a battery saving mode. There is no need for batery saving mode when displaying dark screen, and the problem occurs when displaying dark images or any other dark media, app or non-app. every single time.
Mad Marty said:
This is the Bravia Engine. Just unselect Settings -> Display -> Mobile Bravia Engine
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OMG... Mobile bravia engine has apsolutely nothing to do with with that, because bravia engine works only in phones stock apps for viewing videos and pictures, and the effect is not even similiar to screen dimming. It brings more saturated colors and that is all.
Same problem is posted here: http://communities.sonyericsson.com/thread/61560?start=0&tstart=0 and Sony replied "I'm sorry that it has taken so long but I have done some testing now using a later software and I'm not able to replicate the issue that you guys report so I assume it's fixed." It is more than obvious that they like to close their eyes on every single problem that occurs. Thank you Sony for your gorgeous support to your beloved customers. I cant be more sarcastic, of course.
naga.nino said:
OMG... Mobile bravia engine has apsolutely nothing to do with with that, because bravia engine works only in phones stock apps for viewing videos and pictures, and the effect is not even similiar to screen dimming. It brings more saturated colors and that is all.
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Well, have it your way. But with this kind of attitude, don't be surprised if no-one wants to help you.
Mad Marty said:
Well, have it your way. But with this kind of attitude, don't be surprised if no-one wants to help you.
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It's not my way, it's the way it is. If one understands what mobile bravia engine is, one could never offered it as a solution to a problem that has nothing to do with it. I'm terribly sorry if I ofended you, and I apologize for my attitude. I'm not mad at you, or anybody else here, I just don't see why would one write something just to be written. I know my T-Rex wery well, and I know there is no "normal" way to turn this dimming crap off, so I posted my question here, and expected that someone of the experts would offer some kind of solution to that. And I got things like "turn automatic brightness off", or "turn mobile bravia engine off" even though I previously mentioned that i tried all that stuff. People are "trying" to "help" me here, and they didn't even read what I've written. I'm really not one of guys that would post a question here just to be posted, I searched the crap out of the internet, and I found apsolutely nothing helpfull. That's why I decided to open this thread, to hear what experts have to say.
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There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
peetr_ said:
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
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Thank you very much. I suppose you're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909710&page=16
My phone is rooted and I can't change those values. Can you explain me how to change this? I went to that system location via root explorer, but i can't do much from that point. If I try to open it in text editor it says that this is read only and can't be changed.
Thanx in advance.
naga.nino said:
Thank you very much. I suppose you're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909710&page=16
My phone is rooted and I can't change those values. Can you explain me how to change this? I went to that system location via root explorer, but i can't do much from that point. If I try to open it in text editor it says that this is read only and can't be changed.
Thanx in advance.
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If you are rooted, you need root explorer and mount the directoty as RW, then open in text editor
peetr_ said:
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
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gregbradley said:
If you are rooted, you need root explorer and mount the directoty as RW, then open in text editor
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Thank you guys very much! Changed values, and rebooting my phone...everything is fine now, no more stupid dimming. However...I noticed that color adjusment is still visible when changing from dark screen to colorfull bright one. So the dimming is now definitely gone, but that color adjusment is still visible, like it changes contrast a bit, from worse to better, it is clearly visible. Any ideas about that?
I'm uploading a video I recorded with my webcam to get you a closer look. I'll post a link once it's uploaded.
Video will be live here in a couple of minutes: http://youtu.be/fHozO8zGZ1Y
After I managed to turn off DLS, that auto-contrast thing still remains. If you look closely, you'll se that the blue facebook stripe (and everything else) slightly changes its color/contrast when returning from the gray screen. But DLS was much bigger pain in the ass and I'm very pleased with the result od turning it off.
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Why would you want to post it live?
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Why would you want to post it live?
Sent from your backyard...
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Didn't mean literally live lol. It is uploaded, processed and watchable now.
I noticed this while browsing the play store.. on light backgrounds or where the background is a single colour there is vertical greyish lines on the screen. They are spaced evenly with each line about 1/3 of the width of the space between them.
Someone posted a picture of it here which shows what I'm talking about
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...isibly-on-bright-white-background/td-p/427227
Is this how the screen is meant to be?
spix123 said:
I noticed this while browsing the play store.. on light backgrounds or where the background is a single colour there is vertical greyish lines on the screen. They are spaced evenly with each line about 1/3 of the width of the space between them.
Someone posted a picture of it here which shows what I'm talking about
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...isibly-on-bright-white-background/td-p/427227
Is this how the screen is meant to be?
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This is normal. With my XSP it's the same and I think this is caused by the display and all SP's should have that so don't worry
edit: What I mean with "this is caused by the display" is that I think that under the display is something, that has vertical stripes and because the screen is quite transparent you can see it in a special perspective
spix123 said:
I noticed this while browsing the play store.. on light backgrounds or where the background is a single colour there is vertical greyish lines on the screen. They are spaced evenly with each line about 1/3 of the width of the space between them.
Someone posted a picture of it here which shows what I'm talking about
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...isibly-on-bright-white-background/td-p/427227
Is this how the screen is meant to be?
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My phone has it too. I noticed it the first time I powered on the phone. I try very hard to ignore it everytime I see it
Good to know its normal.
I think it may be because of the glove mode feature, like some sensor under the screen that lets you use it without touch.
spix123 said:
Good to know its normal.
I think it may be because of the glove mode feature, like some sensor under the screen that lets you use it without touch.
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I don't think so. Before I had the SP i had the Xperia P without glove mode and it also had those stripes. Because it got broken I unscrewed it and the display as one had those stripes. Maybe just the touch sensors Whatever, for me it's not a problem ;D
few days ago I bought xperia sp. before buying looked at dozens reviews and non of them was pointing to this problem. I mean that there is visible vertical lines on bright backgrounds. I would never bought sp if knew that. how its possible that this phone is 12 by user rankings in gsmarena? are those users blind????
Love this phone. But damn screen is already burned-in. Can see ghosting of the nav bar and clock. I'm sure a lot of us do.
Has anyone been able to fix it? I tried all those apps. Blinking colors, all whip_te, inverted. Nothing works for me.
Is there really a fix for ghosting on the amoled screen?
chopt51 said:
Love this phone. But damn screen is already burned-in. Can see ghosting of the nav bar and clock. I'm sure a lot of us do.
Has anyone been able to fix it? I tried all those apps. Blinking colors, all whip_te, inverted. Nothing works for me.
Is there really a fix for ghosting on the amoled screen?
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There's a large thread on that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2955765
Although it's been quiet for a while.
From what has been doing the rounds, it seems as if the issue is real, but so far nobody has proved that it exists, with side by side comparisons showing different wallpapers or by playing videos.
Passing up on this phone would be quite unfortunate as there really is no true alternative to the Nokia 6.1 Plus, with bootloader unlocked, of course.
It'd be great if anyone could show how exactly the bottom area looks, on loading up different kinds of contents :fingers-crossed:
archicorn27 said:
From what has been doing the rounds, it seems as if the issue is real, but so far nobody has proved that it exists, with side by side comparisons showing different wallpapers or by playing videos.
Passing up on this phone would be quite unfortunate as there really is no true alternative to the Nokia 6.1 Plus, with bootloader unlocked, of course.
It'd be great if anyone could show how exactly the bottom area looks, on loading up different kinds of contents :fingers-crossed:
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There is not light bleed. The light bleed that seems like is the navbar gradient on android oreo. I am a moto one power user and I assure you. There is no light bleed even at max brightness!
Some youtubers
Some youtubers done lcd test and we can see screen bleeding issue. On a plain black or grey background screen bleeding issue can be seen.
please, Prove it.
I tried, and i am confused
gagan_ahuja11 said:
please, Prove it.
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I got my phone 2 days back and the first thing i noticed was brightness on the bottom part of the phone (bottom part of navbar) was more than rest of the area.
I tried with 3 apps "Quora" "Whatsapp" and "Curiosity".
When i launched Quora, Navbar gradient was observed and it looks like backlight bleeding.
But when i launch Whatsapp or Curiosity, the navbar gradient disappears even at max brightness.
So i think this is not backlight bleeding, but i can't verify this with other apps, or even while watching videos on full screen.
this is definitely confusing. we need more data.
Bleeding
Backlight bleeding only visible on some background Colors. Is there anyone on Xda that can prove it that it is or it is not bleeding
gagan_ahuja11 said:
Backlight bleeding only visible on some background Colors. Is there anyone on Xda that can prove it that it is or it is not bleeding
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What is there to "prove" ?
Take it from users who use the device daily. And coming to the YouTube reviews, aren't the review devices pre production? How good is the hardware there? The navbar gradient is implemented in a weird way by motorola which makes it feel like the light bleed in most of the apps. But I can assure you that its not there. I have tested extensively and you need to physically see it to understand the difference. You cannot visualise it over photos on the internet.
I mean if you people can remove that gradient and show us
gagan_ahuja11 said:
I mean if you people can remove that gradient and show us
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I don't think so..
Moto One does not have any such UI customization.
motoFann said:
I don't think so..
Moto One does not have any such UI customization.
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You mean...backlight bleeding is really there on #MotoOnePower
gagan_ahuja11 said:
You mean...backlight bleeding is really there on #MotoOnePower
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No, what i meant was..... Moto does not give any UI option to user to disable Navbar gradient.
It's either system controlled or app controlled, i am not sure.
And like i said earlier, its not visible in all apps. so does not look like backlight bleeding.
Screen Bleeding Issue Solved.
For those who are wondering about the Screen Bleeding issue with the #MotorolaOnePower Let me clear out this for you, Yes, screen bleeding issue is present and it is ARTIFICIAL. (I don't know why but it is) And can easily be fixed via software updates.
How to disable it?
Install "Navbar Apps" from play store and make the navigation bar colour to solid white/black to overcome those ARTIFICIAL SCREEN BLEEDING issue or wait for the #Android9Pie Which probably will fix this issue.
Hope it helps.
ChandRath said:
For those who are wondering about the Screen Bleeding issue with the #MotorolaOnePower Let me clear out this for you, Yes, screen bleeding issue is present and it is ARTIFICIAL. (I don't know why but it is) And can easily be fixed via software updates.
How to disable it?
Install "Navbar Apps" from play store and make the navigation bar colour to solid white/black to overcome those ARTIFICIAL SCREEN BLEEDING issue or wait for the #Android9Pie Which probably will fix this issue.
Hope it helps.
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What I think to test it. If this is software based gradient or artificial then screenshot can capture it. If screenshot can't capture that gradient it means it is screen bleeding. Can anyone test it and upload screenshotss?
gagan_ahuja11 said:
What I think to test it. If this is software based gradient or artificial then screenshot can capture it. If screenshot can't capture that gradient it means it is screen bleeding. Can anyone test it and upload screenshotss?
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Here is a screenshot
F.A.I.S.A.L said:
Here is a screenshot
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Can you tell the problem area you can see on your phone is same as in the screenshot you see on other device?
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post both image one screenshot and one photo clicked from another device of same screen EXCEPT HOME SCREEN
gagan_ahuja11 said:
Can you tell the problem area you can see on your phone is same as in the screenshot you see on other device?
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It's the same as we can see in screenshot and yes I never believed that it's an light bleed issue...!!
As I have tested the same with some display tester app but I don't see any light bleed issue with higher brightness whatsoever...!! So it's a intended UI effect and not an issue...!!
gagan_ahuja11 said:
Can you tell the problem area you can see on your phone is same as in the screenshot you see on other device?
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post both image one screenshot and one photo clicked from another device of same screen EXCEPT HOME SCREEN
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Here is another image..!! Camera quality aren't that great but I don't have any other device with me...!!
F.A.I.S.A.L said:
It's the same as we can see in screenshot and yes I never believed that it's an light bleed issue...!!
As I have tested the same with some display tester app but I don't see any light bleed issue with higher brightness whatsoever...!! So it's a intended UI effect and not an issue...!!
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actually I asked for any other screen except the home screen...yes, the home screen has gradient...But try to send both of some other screen not of the home screen.
No light bleed.. Confirmed !!!
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/motorola-one-motorola-one-power/Backlight-Bleeding/m-p/4240558
gagan_ahuja11 said:
What I think to test it. If this is software based gradient or artificial then screenshot can capture it. If screenshot can't capture that gradient it means it is screen bleeding. Can anyone test it and upload screenshotss?
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The gradient is an overlay applied on the screen. It is similiar to the Night Light feature, when you capture screenshots with Night Light on, you don't see it in the screenshot.
Hope that helped clear confusions!
All the clocks move around except for the edge clock .has the new update broken the edge clock dam I hate this update.ive clear cash and date from aod. And I've factory reset still the edge clock won't move
Any idea how to get the clock moving guys ?
Anyone please
Is it even possible to have the always on display edge clock to move positions on it's own I feel the clock being static can cause screen burn
Are you sure it does not move? Mine does
haircut123 said:
Is it even possible to have the always on display edge clock to move positions on it's own I feel the clock being static can cause screen burn
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I'm not sure what your issue is. The AOD does move around by itself. It's actually really obvious for me on the update. With Oreo it was very subtle, but with Pie, I can actually see the clock disappear and reappear in a different location and it's very distracting.
The clocks do move apart from the last clock called the edge clock that one just sits on the edge and does not move
Max_Terrible said:
I'm not sure what your issue is. The AOD does move around by itself. It's actually really obvious for me on the update. With Oreo it was very subtle, but with Pie, I can actually see the clock disappear and reappear in a different location and it's very distracting.
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I'm talking about the edge clock. Only
It's called an edge clock because it stays on the edge
chandlerp said:
It's called an edge clock because it stays on the edge
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I know that ha ha. It but it dosent move positions on the edge up or down it just stays there static .All the other clocks move so they won't cause burn in.how can we make the edge clock move like the others Is it not possible?.its the cleanest clock for The always on display imo but the fear of burning in the edge of my freshly replaced screen worrys me
haircut123 said:
I know that ha ha. It but it dosent move positions on the edge up or down it just stays there static .All the other clocks move so they won't cause burn in.how can we make the edge clock move like the others Is it not possible?.its the cleanest clock for The always on display imo but the fear of burning in the edge of my freshly replaced screen worrys me
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I understand now what you're talking about. I only use the default form of the clock on the AOD. I don't believe there is a way to make the edge-clock move. If there was, you would likely have stumbled upon it by now. I think it's an oversight on Samsung's side. They probably didn't think people would use that one or use it for very extended periods.
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I understand now what you're talking about. I only use the default form of the clock on the AOD. I don't believe there is a way to make the edge-clock move. If there was, you would likely have stumbled upon it by now. I think it's an oversight on Samsung's side. They probably didn't think people would use that one or use it for very extended periods.
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Well thank you for confirming that it doesn't move as it was driving me crazy trying to find out why it's not moving ,looks like I'll use one of the other clocks then .cheers pal
My edge clock DOES move up and down
winol said:
My edge clock DOES move up and down
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Very very strange how much does it move?and how can I get mine working I've factory reset the phone.pie or Oreo?
haircut123 said:
Very very strange how much does it move?and how can I get mine working I've factory reset the phone.pie or Oreo?
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I believe he's on Pie. So am I. I'll test this on my device today and report back, also.
EDIT: I'm busy testing the Edge Clock on the AOD, and I can confirm that mine also moves. It moves very subtly, though, not as dramatically as the regular clock. I placed an object in front of my device, marking where the first digit started and I can tell it moved more the right. Also, just as I started typing this edit and looked at my device, when the minute switched over, I saw the clock actually move a tiny bit more to the right.
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I believe he's on Pie. So am I. I'll test this on my device today and report back, also.
EDIT: I'm busy testing the Edge Clock on the AOD, and I can confirm that mine also moves. It moves very subtly, though, not as dramatically as the regular clock. I placed an object in front of my device, marking where the first digit started and I can tell it moved more the right. Also, just as I started typing this edit and looked at my device, when the minute switched over, I saw the clock actually move a tiny bit more to the right.
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Nice idea im going to try the same and place a sticker on the screen. Maybe it is moving but not so the naked eye can see it
haircut123 said:
Nice idea im going to try the same and place a sticker on the screen. Maybe it is moving but not so the naked eye can see it
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Any reports? Could you tell if your clock moves a little or not? From the lack of feedback, I am going to guess that it does.