YouTube kids on Fire 5th Gen? - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Sorry but I'm a total newbie with Kindle Fire tablets. I got my daughter this for Christmas and was setting it up for her so it's ready to go.
It never even crossed my mind that YouTube kids wouldn't be available. Now that I know it isn't, I'm hoping there is a way I can side load it. I uploaded the apk to Amazon Drive, downloaded it to the fire and it says it needs Google services.
Any help is really appreciated!

igotpins said:
Sorry but I'm a total newbie with Kindle Fire tablets. I got my daughter this for Christmas and was setting it up for her so it's ready to go.
It never even crossed my mind that YouTube kids wouldn't be available. Now that I know it isn't, I'm hoping there is a way I can side load it. I uploaded the apk to Amazon Drive, downloaded it to the fire and it says it needs Google services.
Any help is really appreciated!
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http://www.howtogeek.com/282425/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-amazon-fire-hd-8/
(same technique works on 5th gen Fire)
Discussion thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...google-play-store-fire-t3486603?tag=823814-20

Worked flawlessly. THANKS!

I was able to install the Google play store and install KidsYoutube, but i can't add it to the FreeTime account because it doesn't come up in the app list under managed apps. Any advice? I assume this is a permissions issue because other apps (including the google play store) don't come up either, only apps downloaded through the Amazon AppStore

Yes, I am also interested in trying to get google apps over to the freetime kids side. Is there a way to force it over or bypass the permissions issue? My daughter loves the kids tablet and it works beautifully but she still steals my phone for youtube kids which is the best standalone kids app out there. She loves it and cant have it on the freetime side of the tablet.

BulldogJoe said:
I was able to install the Google play store and install KidsYoutube, but i can't add it to the FreeTime account because it doesn't come up in the app list under managed apps. Any advice? I assume this is a permissions issue because other apps (including the google play store) don't come up either, only apps downloaded through the Amazon AppStore
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topherdownfrown said:
Yes, I am also interested in trying to get google apps over to the freetime kids side. Is there a way to force it over or bypass the permissions issue? My daughter loves the kids tablet and it works beautifully but she still steals my phone for youtube kids which is the best standalone kids app out there. She loves it and cant have it on the freetime side of the tablet.
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Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad

How old are your kids?
I have a 4 and a 6yo boys, who both have a Kindle kid edition since Christmas 2015. When I first turned them on, I was extremely disappointed that the entire tablet was Amazon centered. Of course a quick look at XDA and both tablets were rooted running CM12 within minutes.
We of course did lose the whole "freetime" interface, which has only 12 months of free content, but figured that it would teach them Android, and maybe even make them smarter. Between Netflix, Youtube and youtube kids there was no real loss in not having freetime installed.
In order to block content, simply install Nova launcher, and hide apps that aren't kids related, and setup the home screen to be kid friendly (bigger icons, no google search bar, home button to open app drawer etc).
Now I can tell you that my 6yo totally mastered Android, creates app shortcuts, change backgrounds, downloads games etc. My 4yo can navigate Android comfortably, start apps he likes, search for videos on YTK and Netflix.
I feel that it challenged them to learn the OS as is, without sheltering them in a tailored made easy kid interface.

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fastamx79 said:
Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
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I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/

topherdownfrown said:
I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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Sweet, thank you! Looks promising! I'll give it a shot later tonight after she goes to bed so I can sit down and focus. I'll report back :good:

topherdownfrown said:
I found this today. I wont have time to test it out until tomorrow though because my daughter and her tablet are at the ex's today. If you try it and it works let me know.
https://www.howtogeek.com/321474/ho...show-up-in-freetime-profiles-on-fire-tablets/
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Long story short, it works! The parts they don't tell you, you'll need to also install all the google services on the freetime side to get the app to work. I figured that out after 10 minutes of waiting for that to update (i have it installed on the main account as well that's why i didn't put 2 and 2 together right away). I used the same method that was linked earlier in this thread.
After I got YT Kids setup on my freetime side I ran into an issue of not letting me sign in to my account. The screen would come up to add account, but then would go right back into the app. To get around this I also installed google play store on the freetime side. once that was logged in YT kids linked and it was done.
To install all that extra crap, use the same method as you will to install the YT Kids app.
It's not a pretty solution, but it works!

fastamx79 said:
Long story short, it works! The parts they don't tell you, you'll need to also install all the google services on the freetime side to get the app to work. I figured that out after 10 minutes of waiting for that to update (i have it installed on the main account as well that's why i didn't put 2 and 2 together right away). I used the same method that was linked earlier in this thread.
After I got YT Kids setup on my freetime side I ran into an issue of not letting me sign in to my account. The screen would come up to add account, but then would go right back into the app. To get around this I also installed google play store on the freetime side. once that was logged in YT kids linked and it was done.
To install all that extra crap, use the same method as you will to install the YT Kids app.
It's not a pretty solution, but it works!
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How do you install framework on free time side?

topherdownfrown said:
How do you install framework on free time side?
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Take the 4 apk files (the google framework and playstore) and put them on the root of the sd card. Use a computer to do that. When I was trying to copy from internal memory to sd card i kept getting errors.
Once the 4 files are on the root of sd card, shove it back in the tablet, then go into freetime, launch the file explorer that's recommended in the walkthrough and install each one.
You may need to wait after first boot like 10 minutes for whatever apps you have installed on that sd card to rebuild. That happened to me when i put the sd card in, even though the tablet was off

fastamx79 -- I am having trouble installing part 3. Google Play Services 10.2.98 (240-146496160)--
It states app is not installed - when trying to install (the google framework and playstore) on freetime side-- it will not install
This is so frustrating -- please help

fastamx79 said:
Any luck on this? I want to get YouTube kids on my daughter's 5th gen and this news makes me sad
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Actually just registered finally so I could reply to this. I wrestled with this a bunch over Christmas - the key to doing this is an app in the Amazon Kindle App Store called GoToApp (I used the free demo version). Since it is in said store, you can assign it to your child account via the Freetime app on the parent side. I also also temporarily added a file manager to the child account as well - I used ES File Manager, which is also free and in Amazon's App Store, though I believe any file manager would work. Since they are now assigned to your child account, they should show up on the carousel in FreeTime mode like any other app . I then loaded the 4 APK files needed for Google Play and the YouTube kids APK onto an SD card. You then go into the child account and install the apps, using the file manager to get into the SD card. Once done, go into GoToApp - this app is essentially a launcher, and you can add YouTube Kids into it and let them launch the YouTube Kids App from within GoToApp. Both my older and younger sons very quickly learned that essentially GoToApp's icon = YouTube now.
A few other notes on this, however- if your kid is smart, they can use GoToApp for other things. I had manually installed a file manager and he figured out how to unhide it in GoToApp and then went to town. For my 3-year-old this was obviously a non-issue, and it has worked fine for him.
Also, the YouTube Kids app is very, very finicky when trying to get it installed. I found a specific version that worked when nothing else did. I don't know that version off hand, but can dig it up later if needed. I essentially just kept going back versions via APKMirror until I found one that worked (though once installed I never have had to update it, and it still works fine). I also found that installing the Play framework seemed to work best if I installed it only on the kid account and not the parent account - one tablet I had installed it on my account first, and then probably wiped it a dozen times overall before it worked decently. Only installing it on the parent account would give errors when it was then run via the kid account, and I had problems when I installed it on both. Once I figured out the way to do it, the other tablet was fine; I didn't have any problem with that tablet.
In the end, though, I ended up reverting back to a normal kid account for the older child - the combination of the backdoor combined with a lessened amount of parental controls led to him getting a little too into it some nights. I think that both of those issues are really more my fault more than anything else, especially the latter. What we did end up doing was putting YouTube Kids in the parent account and locking down as much as we could (can't open the Play Store or Settings without a PIN and so forth), and he now has to ask to watch (instead of being let loose with it) and is at least semi-supervised now. This also let me take better advantage of the FreeTime controls. On the other hand, the younger one still has this GoToApp setup 9 months later, and it has worked well for him with no problems to speak of.
Anyway, novel of a post, but if rather have someone learn from the mistakes I made and not have to put hours into it like I did.
EDIT: For some reason I thought that the above comment was second-to-last without any reply to it. Oh well, hopefully this helps someone.
e1999 said:
fastamx79 -- I am having trouble installing part 3. Google Play Services 10.2.98 (240-146496160)--
It states app is not installed - when trying to install (the google framework and playstore) on freetime side-- it will not install
This is so frustrating -- please help
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Might try Google Play Services 10.2.98 (230-146496160) instead - this is, I believe, the version I installed on my kids' tablets (one 2015 Kindle Fire 7" and one late 2016 Kindle Fire HD 8", if memory serves). I actually just did a wipe/reinstall on the HD tablet last week and the same file worked for me on the parent side at least (didn't reinstall on the kid account though).

Safe Vision app is similar to YouTube Kids
You can try Safe Vision app which is similar to YouTube Kids. Just search for 'Safe Vision' on Amazon App Store.
Disclosure: I am developer of this app.

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[Q] Google Books App not working

Ok, so I did the Supernooter, ran the Script everything came out a-workin. I got on market and installed Google Books and it links to my account, loads the app for a second, and before any of the covers can load it leaves my nook as quickly as it came.
So 2 independent questions:
1. This happen to anyone else?
2. How do I make it not happen to me?
Thanks
Yes it is happening to me too. Interestingly before I loaded the Android Market, I had side loaded the books app. That didn't work either, the app did at least stay open but it just showed 0 google accounts.
Also my youtube app (part of the process for installing the market) no longer works either, it exhibits the same behavior as the books app (auto closes soon after opening) It did work the first time I opened it when I signed into my google account.
One of my main reasons for rooting my NC was to load the books app. It may sound dumb but I had already purchased like 4 books from Google and I like how there browser reader works so I prefer them to Barnes and Noble or Kindle for that matter. I bought the NC because of the purported compatibility with with Google Books but I am not at all impressed with that procedure and usability.
Anyway hope this can get figured out soon.
Last night after installing the market, gmail, youtube etc... I installed Google Books. It behaved just as you described.
This morning... it works. It just finished downloading Pride and Prejudice just now
Only two things I can think of between last night and this morning:
1) Possibly the Google ebook server(s) were down, causing the local reader app to crash
2) I rebooted the Nook
Regarding the Youtube app - you will need to uninstall Youtube and reinstall it. Once reinstalled it works fine.
Well I am jealous.
Still no go for me. I will try removing it again. Is yours working even after a reboot?
Yep, rebooted again and still works.
As a second test I went to Google's website, purchased a free Sherlock Holmes book and the Nook downloaded it right away. I'm on page 1!
It's a shame the Google reader doesn't read local book files though...
Good news!
Mine is now working.
After rooting and adding the market, I removed both the youtube app and the books app. Rebooted. Then loaded youtube. Rebooted made sure it worked (which it did)
Then I loaded Google Books and it worked! and has continued ever since.
Super happy.

Did anyone receive the new Kindle 7" yet?

I am looking for reviews or overall first impression of the $50 tablet. I went to Best Buy to play with one, but sadly it was locked to Demo mode and reps didn't know if we can exit.
It has quad core, but I am not sure if it's actually snappier than earlier kindle fire tablets.
I've had it about 2 hours so far. I currently own a note 4 and a galaxy pro 10 inch tab. This is my first "reader". I need a little time to get to know it. But, so far, so good. Now, I just have to root this little puppy.
Just got mine today....all I can say is that the battery life is not bad. 100% charged and dropped to 57% after my son watch videos for a few hours. Got the kids Edition. Will try and root the tablet tomorrow, if I brick the thing beyond repair, I can always take up Amazon 2 years no question guarantee
elmo257 said:
Just got mine today....all I can say is that the battery life is not bad. 100% charged and dropped to 57% after my son watch videos for a few hours. Got the kids Edition. Will try and root the tablet tomorrow, if I brick the thing beyond repair, I can always take up Amazon 2 years no question guarantee
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Got mine on Wednesday and i'm looking forward to read your experience about rooting it...
Received 6 in the mail yesterday! So far I like the feel but rooting would be fantastic.
I started playing with mine this morning. I was able to get the Google Play store to load (with full connectivity!) after downloading the Google Services from the play store using APK downloader. I also downloaded the latest Play Store version from apkmirror. The only issue I saw was that it didn't recognize my purchases on the play store app. If I go through my PC to the app store in Chrome or whatnot, I can send the purchased apps to the kindle fire. My only qualm so far is that the volume with headphones in seems kinda low.
To get an idea of how to get google play working, check out this link: http://kindlefireforkid.com/how-to-setup-a-google-account-on-amazon-fire-tablet/. The only thing to replace to get it working is the Google Play Services, which you can download from the play store using APK Downloader (Chrome and Firefox Addon).
utahman3431 said:
I started playing with mine this morning. I was able to get the Google Play store to load (with full connectivity!) after downloading the Google Services from the play store using APK downloader. I also downloaded the latest Play Store version from apkmirror. The only issue I saw was that it didn't recognize my purchases on the play store app. If I go through my PC to the app store in Chrome or whatnot, I can send the purchased apps to the kindle fire. My only qualm so far is that the volume with headphones in seems kinda low.
To get an idea of how to get google play working, check out this link: http://kindlefireforkid.com/how-to-setup-a-google-account-on-amazon-fire-tablet/. The only thing to replace to get it working is the Google Play Services, which you can download from the play store using APK Downloader (Chrome and Firefox Addon).
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Did the initial sign in process take a bit? Mine is still loading...
No it didn't take too long...I did do a reboot before installing the Play Store though, so you may want to uninstall, clear out caches and try again
Yeah all my apks won't install. They just say app not installed.
The play store apk does and play services does but framework and account manager do not
utahman3431 said:
No it didn't take too long...I did do a reboot before installing the Play Store though, so you may want to uninstall, clear out caches and try again
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So I got it to work. Also, all my purchases show up now
Did you have to do something extra to get it to work? Here's a link to the files I used (including the Google Services apk from the Play Store): http://bit.ly/1LZaetI. Here's the order I installed them:
1. com.google.android.gms.apk
2. GoogleLoginService.apk
3. GoogleServicesFramework.apk
After those 3 are installed, reboot. After the reboot install PlayStore_v5.9.12.apk
I didn't clear any caches or anything to get it working. Good luck!
utahman3431 said:
Did you have to do something extra to get it to work? Here's a link to the files I used (including the Google Services apk from the Play Store): http://bit.ly/1LZaetI. Here's the order I installed them:
1. com.google.android.gms.apk
2. GoogleLoginService.apk
3. GoogleServicesFramework.apk
After those 3 are installed, reboot. After the reboot install PlayStore_v5.9.12.apk
I didn't clear any caches or anything to get it working. Good luck!
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I also installed Google Account Manager, so I don't know if that made my purchases show up or not but it worked.
Anyone able to add a second account to Google Docs apps?
Everything worked fine. Now I can use the google apps normally
EDIT: everything worked on W8.1, but not in W10...
Any ideas on rooting or link to do so?
fyrfterjr said:
Any ideas on rooting or link to do so?
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I'm sure if someone roots their amazon Fire 5th Gen they will post in the 5th Gen forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help
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Cloning built in Kindle app

Hi all,
New Kindle owner here, and a very resourceful Android/iOS nerd.
My question is simple-- has anyone had success in cloning the built-in "Amazon Kindle" system app?
I'm looking to use multiple Kindle accounts. One is my US account (Prime account; where I have most of my audiobooks) and one is my JP account (where I have most of my Kindle books).
From what I recall on my TF300T tablet, the Google Play store edition of this app takes your Amazon login directly from the main screen when you first open it. In contrast, the Amazon Kindle system app on Fire devices takes your login from the account you use in Amazon's version of the Settings app.
I've tried using an app from the Play Store called "App Cloner" and have purchased the full version. I tried cloning the "Amazon Kindle" app twice with different configurations, but have not played with it much more. Most I've tried is removing permissions from it, in an effort to block it from automatically taking my US login from Settings.
I'm afraid that the remedy to this may be to download the Play Store version and clone that one instead. Problem is I lost my TF300T, and the Play Store on my Kindle reports it's already installed. (Interestingly enough, Google Play doesn't recognize Audible as already installed-- making a second copy of Audible easy to obtain)
Anyone have luck with this? Would love to figure out how to make this possible and write up a guide for it.
I'd like to know this too. I bought a kindle on someone elses amazon account so their account came attached. I removed it, but then that family member asked to read their kindle on my fire. So I couldn't add the account back for 6 months. So I was hoping to just remove the default one and add the regular version from the play store but it doesn't function for some reason. I would love to be able to log into a different kindle account just for the book store. I've had a bad time switching ROM and had to get a new one so I'd like to just avoid changing the OS for now.
Well, I have some good news and bad news regarding the subject. But, overall I would say it's progress none the less.
I *DID* find my TF300T, so I was able to download the Play Store version of the Kindle app and successfully clone it. I also managed to successfully install the cloned app. Unfortunately this is as far as I got.
When I launch the cloned app, the splash screen loads very briefly and the app crashes. I will test installing the cloned app on my TF300T and see if it opens cleanly on that device.
If it works on the TF300T, then there is something on the Fire 7" that prevents the clone (or even just the stock app) from operating correctly. I will post back (or edit my post) with my findings.

Fire 7 5th Gen 2 google accounts on 1 profile issue.

My children both have a fire 7" 5th gen that is fully up to date. At the moment they both have that childrens profile and I wanted to do away with that and start using family app link. So as it stands the default profile with my name exist and the unpaid freetime one for them. I would like to convert the profile they have to a normal one but can't seem to figure out how so I have them use mine under this setup. I don't personally mind this because I put the parental controls in place and remove everything but the amazon apps, I would rather it not say my name on their tablet if its easy to setup and I am just not understanding.
I also have a hd10 that is mine and was able to install google play on it and get 2 accounts that are mine working in just 1 profile but that was maybe 2 months ago. My current issue is that with the links on the guide to install google play when I log in to the google services I could not use my daughters account and was told the version was not high enough. I sign in under mine wait a few minutes everything is up to date now and when I attempt to click add account it just throws me to the apps screen, manage does the same thing. I am certain when I setup the 10 3 weeks ago this was not the case I clicked add account and it worked without issue.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated, my children will not stop begging me to install minecraft, and I do not want to buy it from the amazon app store.
Also I would gladly root it and install a custom OS but from reading it looks like that is out of the question on this version.
My kids are driving me nuts, hopefully someone has some kind of suggestion I can give a shot. I really don't want to have to buy another type of tablet.

Fire OS 6..3.x and play store (latest Fire HD 8)

Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
lxmeta said:
Hi Guys,
Just unpacked my new fire hd8.
Did anyone already successfully install the play store on this Android 7 based device?
Would it work to simply try fetching the usual files from Nugat and install them?
Thanks for your help
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ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
MishaalRahman said:
Can you post a picture of your Fire HD 8 with Google Play working?
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Let's try this one, as I neither can upload images nor post regular links yet "https://1drv.ms/f/s!AlBLD_fEYNd1xQL44nzSLry-EZoM"
DKXC said:
I'm getting it on Saturday. How is it performing?
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Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
lxmeta said:
Quite ok, much faster than the older Fire 7 I had, and gave up on.
It is very usable. Downloaded quite a few apps now, and most perform well.
Only my local newspaper app still causes issue when logging in, but this app isn't working well in real live too..
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Yep I have a Fire 7, 5th generation. Disabled some bloat and removed lockscreen ads, it performs /okay/ now, but great to hear that the new Fire 8 performs good! Excited to test it out on Saturday.
lxmeta said:
ok, just gave it a try:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi
Google Play store 11.9.14-all
After starting Google Play the Fire insisted on installing nee Google Play services. I let it do it's job.
So far it worked. I can install apps.
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Quick update. Realised that I was sloppy on the OS version: After the initial update it's 6.3.0.1. A reasonably clean Android 7.something
So far pretty much everything seems to work as wished. I usually install apps from the fire store if available, and then from play if I don't have the choice.
I have now Chrome, hangouts, hangouts meet, both with two accounts (enterprise and personal). Goole Play Music, Canon Camera Remote (Fuji is on the fire store) etc running.
Also my microsoft account works well, no issues with onedrive etc... For Skype I'm using the Kindle version.
One note: don't forget to enable the lock screen if you want to add a google enterprise account. Otherwise it will simply fail to log on, without a direct useful error message!
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
Google Play services won't run unless you update Google Play services
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
BilboSwaggins69 said:
I've been getting this message as well except it hasnt actually seemed to cause any errors. i tested google play books and it works fine for me
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Strange Google Play Books won't even install unless Google Play Services gets updated. Thanks though.
PSULightingGuy said:
So I got my new Tablet yesterday, loaded it up today with the exact versions you list above, it lets me log in, but then kicks me out of the play store and asks me to log in again... Hope this isn't anything to do with 2FA or anything, but I can't figure out how to stay logged in and install apps...
Edit: Yeah, it lets me login, accept the terms, then goes right back to Checking info... Which leads to the login page...
Thought I had it with a factory reset, got a few apps installed, but now won't stay logged in again...
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I've got the exact same problems on my new fire HD
Same problem! Repeat loop and back to sign in.
JSunsurn said:
Has anyone run into this on the newest version of the Fire HD 8? I go to update Google Play services and it says it is 'installing' forever (well... it hasn't stopped yet at least... I've forced stopped it a few times, and tried again, but nothing) I've tried the most up to date guide on here (October 4th 2018) and this still sits here waiting on installing services... which stuff like Google Play Books needs... I mostly want GPB because I store a lot of books on Google, and this is a great little reading device.
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Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
Same issue continuous login loop
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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I can login to Google in Silk.
All versions are the following:
Google Services Framework and Google Account Manager 7.1.2
Google Play services 14.3.66 64bit nodpi (040400-213742215)
Google Play store 11.9.14-all 214884739
I have dual factor authentication on my Google account which requires me saying yes to an authorization prompt on my phone.
That seems to work though because after that I am prompted in the Google Play app with terms of service. When I accept them, it goes back to the login prompt, requiring me to enter my credentials again. This loop didn't end even after five attempts.
lxmeta said:
Did you check which versions are now on your tablet?
Did you try to do an update of all apps on the Amazon Store first, and then on the Google play store? Make sure you are not "updating" any apps that are originally from the Amazon store, like Alexa (causing issues).
Can you log into your google account from the silk webbrowser?
Everything works pretty well on my tablet. I only had to download the Amazon Alexa app again from the Amazon store, after the play store had "updated" the original version, which caused it to crash.
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Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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If you need something now return it and look elsewhere. Otherwise look for a workaround in the coming weeks. This doesn't feel like a showstopper issue.
PSULightingGuy said:
Just checked the Silk Browser and Amazon updates, same problem remains. Checked multiple times that I've got the right versions for this tablet, same result. Login Loop, can't get into the play store anymore and wants to update Play Services, but can't... About ready to return it and get a real Android tablet instead...
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Sorry to hear. Looks like something is behaving differently on your Fire.
You could try a complete reset and do it all over again if you are feeling adventurous.. Though I have heard that doing the same thing all over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity
I do not 2FA on my google account, so that could have triggered it.
btw.: Did you also have the message about updating google play service after google play store the first time? Apparently my google play services framework still seems to have the same version number... Just looking for things that went differently on your setup.
Returning sounds like a good plan if an android tablet is what you really want.
According to this article, Google apps are not supposed to work on the newest Amazon devices. It also mentions something called "Yalp Store" which might be interesting.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...-amazon-no-more-android-apps-fire-os-0183744/
Also: I am not sure if the Launcher Hijack apk v.3 is working on the new Fire 8, but I found a new launcher called "Flick Launcher" which allows you to set a custom action for the home button. Set the home button to open Flick Launcher (open itself), and it will go to home screen. It will require the pro version which is $2.50. I don't have a Fire 8 8th gen to test it on, but it does work on my Fire 7 7th gen, and my Moto E Play. It's very slow getting to the home screen on the Fire 7, which has Lollipop, but it's a lot faster on my phone, which has Oreo, so it might be faster on Nougat. I am not sure if this is a definite solution, but it could be.

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