Cant belive no android 6 on z1
What a ****
Some Samsung a 3 series will get it no man
Its about marketing lol. Samsung a series newest than z1, thats why they get it. Even z1 is able to, it is about marketing. Dont compare something not blindly.
i dont think android 6 has lot of features...so its better to be in 5.1.1
Hi,
It has been quite some time since they announced that and it's a pretty useless thing to complain about. It's widely known that manufacturers only offer support for 18 months, so don't expect much more than that.
The first A series were released as of 2015, the newer A series is from 2016, Android Marshmallow was released October 2015, while the Xperia Z1 was released October 2013. It's easy to see that Marshmallow is out of the 18 months window and with a release schedule of a flagship every semester, Sony needs to give you reasons to buy the new one rather than stay with yours for longer.
All the best,
~Lord
msm8974 was deprecated by Qualcomm, stop blaming Sony
Samsung's 2013 flagships s4 & note 3 only got lollipop 5.0 (lollipop on the s4 is broken) while z & z1 got lollipop 5.1, so next time you want to make a point on how bad Sony is with their update policy ,please choose a company that's actually relevant in Software department as Samsung is literally the worst when it comes to updating older devices.
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Hi there!
Was at a phone shop earlier this afternoon afternoon and there I was comparing the new HTC One M8, Galaxy S4, Galaxy S5 and the Xperia Z1 side by side. For some reason I fell in love with the Z1. Why? It was just the right size (5" screen), its very light, build quality seem topnotch, audio quality (with my headphones) was near amazing, camera quality seem excellent and it was quite fluid and performance seem spot on.
But I don't want to ask about what's wrong with it. Rather I want to discuss about updates.
As the current crop of Android OEMs start updating their devices to 4.4.2 my question is: do you guys trust Sony with timely/quick updates with their devices? You think its slow? Have they been keeping their promise in updates?
What you think?
They are ok with speed of updates..z1 got kitkat abt a month ago...but there were some bugs which were resolved by another update...am hearing that there may be another update soon...so sony seems to be good in this department
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sruba209 said:
They are ok with speed of updates..z1 got kitkat abt a month ago...but there were some bugs which were resolved by another update...am hearing that there may be another update soon...so sony seems to be good in this department
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Gino76ph said:
Hi there!
Was at a phone shop earlier this afternoon afternoon and there I was comparing the new HTC One M8, Galaxy S4, Galaxy S5 and the Xperia Z1 side by side. For some reason I fell in love with the Z1. Why? It was just the right size (5" screen), its very light, build quality seem topnotch, audio quality (with my headphones) was near amazing, camera quality seem excellent and it was quite fluid and performance seem spot on.
But I don't want to ask about what's wrong with it. Rather I want to discuss about updates.
As the current crop of Android OEMs start updating their devices to 4.4.2 my question is: do you guys trust Sony with timely/quick updates with their devices? You think its slow? Have they been keeping their promise in updates?
What you think?
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Compared to how Sony (Sony Ericsson*) did treat their older device generations (2010 - 2011 devices specially), I can't deny how much they have improved on the high end Z line-up! So yes, they're fast, compared to a couple of years ago!
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They're not super fast but they're not slow either, they're on par with Samsung and htc on this
Which makes them much faster than lg and a little slower than motorola
Also much slower than nexus devices but everyone else is anyway
The rest of the manufacturers don't even bother to update their devices i think
BUT i'd like to point out that with Sony's 2 flagships a year schedule plus other devices, updates might begin to slow down with the increased device count. This is just a supposition of mine of course but it might happen
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They're not super fast but they're not slow either, they're on par with Samsung and htc on this
Which makes them much faster than lg and a little slower than motorola
Also much slower than nexus devices but everyone else is anyway
The rest of the manufacturers don't even bother to update their devices i think
BUT i'd like to point out that with Sony's 2 flagships a year schedule plus other devices, updates might begin to slow down with the increased device count. This is just a supposition of mine of course but it might happen
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that is true..but we must keep in mind that 2 'flagship' devices are launched....the total no of phones launched is actually less compared to some oems..2 flagships 2 mid range and 2 budget ... very unlike samsung launching 34 phones in the indian market in 2013
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But with two "flagship" devices being launched in a matter of and/or a span of 9 months (in this case the Z1 & the Z2) would that put Sony in a certain "pressure" to keep up with updating their devices often or in a quick/timely fashion?
If I was a Z1 owner in the past 6 months and realising and assuming the OEM who made my device will update it only once more (say in next 4-6 months) that would mean my device is now dispensable after 12 months even though apps are still being updated? That's not good is it?
A so-called "flagship" device will no longer be flagship after 9 months. Before it as every 12 months. How un-reassuring and depressing to know.
Or am I being too negative? Or just realistic?
u r actually being realistic... this is the fact with all OEMSs......consider a manufacturer's scenario presently... the Z1 has 4.2.2...... currently 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 are out....also 5.0 is probably coming out tomorrow.... so sony will probably skip 4.4.4 and go straight to 5.0.......Hence wenever u r buying a NON NEXUS phone... make sure u like the UI... coz as long as u don't flash an AOSP rom ... the look and feel of the OS will remain nearly the same irrespective of the android version ... sad but true
The only reason why I went with sony was the camera apps functions and graphic engine they have on the phones.
Hello there,
I need to buy a phone and am getting both Z3C and Z2 at similar prices. ($400).
I know the merits and demerits of both but am still confused. Also I owned a Xperia U (great dev support) but am unable to see any great dev support for both the z3 and Z2. I am a sony lover <3 Should I buy them or look forward to any other device with great dev support (OPO, OPT, G3 etc)
Thank You
Depends, want a compact high end phone? the only one is the Z3C, the Z2 is 5.2 inch, the difference is 0.6 inches and is A LOT, in normal phones (above 5 inches) you have a lot of choices, cant give you a recommendation without knowing what you want... just dont get a Samsung.
About the custom roms my personal experience is with a S1, an S4 i9500 and a Nexus 7 2012, all bad, the roms i tested work well the first time and then they begin to get slow, also a lot of bugs, the N7 is a nexus but apparently support ended, also the lollipop update killed it, i have it right now with 4.2.2, both S1 and S4 worked far better with stock rom/debloated stock rom.
Z3C on 4.4.4 can be rooted easily and Xposed framework all works well.
5.1 can be rooted with a bit of messing about and Xposed is working (mostly?) with a bit of messing about, depending upon the time you have available and your Android skills.
There is ongoing work on both of these and I think 5.1 will be easy soon.
I very much think there is no difference between the Z2 and Z3C in this regard as they essentially have the same SoC. I use the same tools on Z3C and Z1C though they are slightly different hardware.
I am not an expert on this, so someone may correct me.
I personally got the Z3C due to the size and $375 on Amazon. I also got a Z1C for $250 there which is a great buy at that price.
I think its worth waiting till september
Well yes there is a difference but they are minor since everybody wants big phones now and Z3C falls in small phones today! But I can manage the smallness. No Samsung at all
Indeed next week new Sony phones will be unveiled Z5 and Z5c most likely
Hey guys,
So, as you already know, the end of 2015 is near and in just a couple of weeks we'll enter 2016, embracing the new devices, new technologies, new chips that will reside in your future phones and tablets, and perhaps will see interesting changes to the manufacturers from around the world as one makes a mistake, while others learn and improve from theirs
Seeing as how this year has been a really interesting one for pretty much every OEM out there, whether the device manufacturedc shipped with Android, iOS, Windows or other operating system, like when Motorola kinda disappointed us with updates for Moto E, LG pumped out great G4 and V10, and Samsung went backwards on the Galaxy S6.
Nevertheless, I think we can all agree that this year everybody found a device to pick up, no matter if its on the low-end pricing model like the Moto G or Xperia E4, or a solid mid-range like Nexus 5X and Motorola X Play, going into the premium-class range of top-devices like Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6, iPhone 6S, Nexus 6P, and many others
But I guess I'll get straight to the point:
What, in your opinion, were the Top-10 best mobile devices released througout 2015?
If you can't put them in a straight-up order - no fear, just list them here and we'll discuss it together
Aaaaaaand GO!
The updates for samsung note series has become worst than ever. They neither commit the updates for a date and even if they commit they never honor it. Never buy a Samsung phone after this.. Small companies are better off.
One of the reasons I switched to nexus 6p.
Yep but samsung is better than most other phone makers LG is terrible
I'm not complaining, MM will eventually released. Till then my note 4 still rocks and there are plenty CM13 roms here.
I really don't understand people moaning about updates. Grab a custumrom if you really want Android 6.0.1 so bad.
Newer firmware isn't always better. My note 4 does a really great job on 5.1.1
My iPad 3 has the latest ios 9.3 beta but it lags like hell which it didn't do when it had ios 7.1.2 on it
Stop crying like a little kid who wants candy but don't get it.
Mate you think it's bad for the note. Should see how bad it for the s5. My Mrs bought hers same time I got the note the 4 and hers is still on 5.0.1 and all her widgets seem to freeze up. She swears she's never buying a Samsung phone again and says she's getting a iphone ?
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The note 4 isn't so bad for updates tho imo. Could be worse but I agree Samsung need to sort it out
My battery's sucks on 5.1.1
LG does a great job in updating the last 1.5/2 years. My G3 got MM update around christmas and it rocked. Much more fluid and snappy. And new UX too (LG's TW). Didnt like the screen from the G3. Will see if we get the same MM as the Note 5 got today. Waiting for theme store because i dont like the green samsung uses in TW. Btw... updaye cant be very far away isnt it cause note5 got it today and both devices are very much the same hadwarewise.
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I'm rocking kitkat by choice. Had 5.1.1 and M on my Nexus 5. Much prefer KK for the Note. Not all 'upgrades' are worth waiting for.
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Same here, no complains.
Loved my devices and not bother with updates, comes or
not....don't really care.
What I really don't understand is that why people
getting angry either with delayed updates or the
manufacturer, they did not force anybody
to buy their products, isn't it?
Either we buy or not, they don't mind.
I buy my device because I think its best for me, that's all
Peace everyone!
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Until Samsung utilizes the same universal update process that Apple and Google Nexus device uses, there will always be issues with Updates. Even if there is a MM update tomorrow, it most likely will not reach your device for quite some time. Unfortunately, the Note 4 is starting to show its age (Or Sammy is doing something to make it lag... Alot!), plus the Note 5 never came to Europe which is starting to get MM.
To be honest with the XDA community, Samsung Flagships were always my favorite due to the extra perks like removable battery and sd slot. If they decide to keep the s6 route and also prevent certain regions from buying their phones, then I will have to find an alternatives and there are very few out there without on screen navigation buttons. (My main problem with Nexus devices)
Yes their updates are very pathetic. I am currently on an AOSP rom, my next phone is going to be a Nexus.. never going to buy any Samsung phone again!
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The updates for samsung note series has become worst than ever. They neither commit the updates for a date and even if they commit they never honor it. Never buy a Samsung phone after this.. Small companies are better off.
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Your post seems to accuse samsung of being worse and smaller companies being better with no facts to back these statements up.
Its very hard and a bad choice for any company to commit to a date of when they will release an update. What are you looking for in an update and there was no agreement that you would receive updates after you purchased the phone. You just expect them to happen when you want.
I have no problems with my note 4, an update is welcome but more of a inconvenience and a risk. With the updates are you referring to Marshmallow?
Why dont you go AOSP or CM
If you wanted timely update you should've gone with a Nexus or an iPhone. I, and probably some people here, bought a Note 4 for its awesome hardware and knowing that update will come late but it will come eventually. Samsung has actually been better on handling update. Rushing things will mess things up, my sister's LG G3 got 5.0 a few weeks after Google released it but it was buggy as f**k and it's dead. I'd rather have Samsung play it safe and iron out the update first then getting a buggy update.
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If you wanted timely update you should've gone with a Nexus or an iPhone. I, and probably some people here, bought a Note 4 for its awesome hardware and knowing that update will come late but it will come eventually. Samsung has actually been better on handling update. Rushing things will mess things up, my sister's LG G3 got 5.0 a few weeks after Google released it but it was buggy as f**k and it's dead. I'd rather have Samsung play it safe and iron out the update first then getting a buggy update.
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I considered all factory images on my Nexus 5 to be Beta version software. Honestly CM nightlies were better sorted out than the official firmware and were fixed when there was an issue.
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even My LG G Watch R receive android 6.0.1 xD.....and only now Note 5 in South Korea receive the Android 6.0.1. Soo maybe at end of April or at April fools day, we receive Android 6.0.1
It's really pathetic how easy is for some people to defend Samsung's software incompetence.
Facts
Note series is a flagship, costs even nowadays a lot of money.
MM is out for quite some time, not even note 5 got it yet.
Custom rom ? Sure, I m in. Of course without the bloat my note4 is another device. But guess what: bye bye warranty. Thanks for this shamesung.
Personally, I bought the note 4 for the second time 1 month ago. New and pristine.
I swear to God I rooted it and kissed the warranty goodbye after 2 hours of wrestling with THE BLOAT. Samsung software engineers should die in shame if they check my note 4 and compare its performance with a stock device.
If this is not a problem for you, it's not my fault you got a perception issue.
but i want revert back to 4.4 :crying:
I'm staying on 4.4.4 for now by choice.
Had L and M on my Nexus. More of a fan of KK.
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I think because of slow update by Lenovo to Motorola devices.
The Google will re-own the Motorola company from Lenovo
Peoples are not appreciating the work By Lenovo to the Motorola devices
Because fwhen Google have the Motorola company the devices are known for his stock Android
Why does google care what people think of cheap chinese phones? They took what they wanted from motorola. Google never bothered to pursue companies like samsung which failed to updated android devices with major os update released in the 18 months after the devices' launch, so this isn't going to bother them at all. It would cost them millions and give them a lot more work to do for absolutely no gain other than the meaningless griping of people on internet forums from people who should have known that slow/non-existent updates was part of the corners you cut when buying a cheap device.
I'm using a hd 10 2017 tablet from amazon, running a modified version of kitkat. If it were running oreo would the experience be meaningfully different? Android versions just don't matter any more.