CPL1 Firmware/ Rom Stock Plus - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 Android Development

CPL1 Stock Plus Rom​
I would just like to share an enhanced version of stock note 4 with the only "foreign" app being the grace InCallUI mainly because I have yet to locate a guide on how to make all the buttons layout correctly and there is also very minor cosmetic changes (removed words from lock screen and extended the drop-down panel to go all the way across the screen). All features and modifications were done by me using guides from @Kamy, @ikrom, @jovy23, @asc1977, @EMSpilot, @tdunham, @daxgirl, @tkari4, @Hani K., @Misterxtc and the InCallUI ported by @Albe95. Last but certainly not least, all this was made possible with @ASSAYYED's great rom kitchen and @Ticklefish's Tickle my Android.
FEATURES
Stock kernel
Rooted
Busybox
Zip-Aligned
Deodexed
Toolbox Enabled
Flashlight in notification panel
5-way Reboot
Native Tethering
Loud Volume Warning Disabled
Brought back "once and always" buttons
Call Recording Enabled
6 in the Hotseat Launcher
TW Swipe Left Shortcut
Viper4Android - credits to @viper520
Vol up to turn on flashlight
Signatures Disabled
Write to Ext. Sd with Tibu
4 way Multi window
All apps Multi Window
CPL1 Safe Firmware Upgrade
Partial Firmware courtesy of @Misterxtc
Link to Full Firmware
ROM LINK
HERE
Flash this as well for viper- Viper SUpolicy

1.

Thank you Kevin!
Does Odin "CPL1 Safe Firmware Upgrade" include the modem?

1Xfan said:
Thank you Kevin!
Does Odin "CPL1 Safe Firmware Upgrade" include the modem?
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Yes, the firmware includes everything except recovery and aboot. Also a few things I forgot to mention, the switch to turn on volume up for flashlight is in the display settings and to set the apps for toolbox you just long press on the toolbox icon (when activated) and then drag it up to the edit section at the top of the screen. Sorry guys I'm terrible at writing the info and summary for these roms but hopefully I can get it figured out one day.

kevintm78 said:
Yes, the firmware includes everything except recovery and aboot. Also a few things I forgot to mention, the switch to turn on volume up for flashlight is in the display settings and to set the apps for toolbox you just long press on the toolbox icon (when activated) and then drag it up to the edit section at the top of the screen. Sorry guys I'm terrible at writing the info and summary for these roms but hopefully I can get it figured out one day.
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I understand. Please clarify for me...
I'm on pj2 unlocked/rooted. I want to stay unlocked/rooted. Do I flash the "partial".zip, or Odin the "full" ? :fingers-crossed:
When I read through hsbdr's post's, I must have 5 or six tabs open
I prefer instructions simple, and retail and Dev posts/instructions separate from each other. As well as return to "unrooted" or "keep root" posts. Many have accidentally locked their BL as a result. There is no reason to include a "return to stock-locked" link in with a custom rooted ROM post/links. Uhg
Thank you for keeping it simple for us, and all your work!

1Xfan said:
I understand. Thanks for clarifying :fingers-crossed:
When I read through hsbdr's post's, I must have 5 or six tabs open
I prefer instructions simple, and retail and Dev instructions separate!
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Yeah it does get a little confusing. That's the main reason I just posted my own link just to make sure I'm not linking to the wrong thing. Fun fact while testing all this out, I was able to flash pj2 roms while I was on the cpl1 firmware and everything worked. I just tested one rom but it seems like once you upgrade your firmware you may not have to downgrade again if you want to go back to another rom.

kevintm78 said:
Yeah it does get a little confusing. That's the main reason I just posted my own link just to make sure I'm not linking to the wrong thing. Fun fact while testing all this out, I was able to flash pj2 roms while I was on the cpl1 firmware and everything worked. I just tested one rom but it seems like once you upgrade your firmware you may not have to downgrade again if you want to go back to another rom.
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oooh really! So probably there is nothing new in the upgrade only that it's un-downgradable:silly:

1Xfan said:
oooh really! So probably there is nothing new in the upgrade only that it's un-downgradable:silly:
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The first couple times I tested a firmware that I made, I was terrified of locking my bl. I flashed the one I posted and then tested for downgrade and all is good, but it doesn't seem to be necessary to downgrade again. As far as differences between them the only thing I noticed was more security stuff and some different bloatware.

Forgive me...
So the "full firmware link" (download file name: "cpl1_tar_32bit_ext4") doesn't include the recovery and aboot files(?)

1Xfan said:
Forgive me...
So the "full firmware"> link doesn't include the recovery and aboot files(?)
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That's correct. If you flash it and let it boot you'll have your custom recovery, unlocked bootloader, no root, no busybox, cpl1 modem/kernel, and odexed system. That way if someone wants pure stock they can just flash the supersu file and your set.

She's running great for me! I installed xposed and oscar kernel and it's stable as a rock! Any chance of the additional grace apps - email, contacts, etc? Great work man!

CrazyCram said:
She's running great for me! I installed xposed and oscar kernel and it's stable as a rock! Any chance of the additional grace apps - email, contacts, etc? Great work man!
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I just tried the email zip at this post and it worked. When I get off work I'll test those others. They all should work but if you don't want to be the guinnie pig I can do it.
So oscar works? I thought it might need an update but that's good to know.

Yes, Oscar 13 works great. I'll give the grace apps a try - thanks again!

kevintm78 said:
I just tried the email zip at this post and it worked. When I get off work I'll test those others. They all should work but if you don't want to be the guinnie pig I can do it.
So oscar works? I thought it might need an update but that's good to know.
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For some reason after flashing grace email, I see high battery usage for email 19-30%. Tried clearing data but still see the drain. Am I missing something?

sam298 said:
For some reason after flashing grace email, I see high battery usage for email 19-30%. Tried clearing data but still see the drain. Am I missing something?
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Honestly, I only use that app when testing it and I haven't noticed any battery drain, but I can't say I've ever checked either. I wonder if it just needs to settle in. Maybe someone that uses it more can chime in to see if it's an issue for everyone. If you want to, see if after a while it goes back to normal range and if it doesn't try to get a log and we can see what we can come up with.

Hello @kevintm78. Need a little help. I just odin'd the full firmware and now my phone won't boot. I get unfortunately System UI has stopped. I was on CPJ1 before I did this. Should I just try to restore a backup? Thanks

dhplap said:
Hello @kevintm78. Need a little help. I just odin'd the full firmware and now my phone won't boot. I get unfortunately System UI has stopped. I was on CPJ1 before I did this. Should I just try to restore a backup? Thanks
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If Odin completed it should have at least updated your firmware. If that's the case you could just go ahead and flash the rom. All the files from the full firmware get overwritten anyway. Just make sure you do a complete wipe (everything but your sd/Ext sd) and you should be good to go.

kevintm78 said:
If Odin completed it should have at least updated your firmware. If that's the case you could just go ahead and flash the rom. All the files from the full firmware get overwritten anyway. Just make sure you do a complete wipe (everything but your sd/Ext sd) and you should be good to go.
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Thank you. Yes I just restored a backup just fine and it's also showing my baseband is now CPL1. Now I'm going to flash your rom so I can have stock whenever I want it. Thank you for your time and help. And for the upgrade.

@kevintm78...thank you for this. I had lost 4g somewhere in all my flashing. I tried reflashing partial firmware and even restoring backups wouldnt give me 4g again.I was getting ready to go through the entire lock, unlock, root process again when I found this thread. I downloaded the full firmware in the op, flashed with flashfire, rebooted into recovery, wiped dalvik, data, cache, and rebooted system. I now have 4g back. I made a nandroid of stock, and then clean flashed LOS and still have 4g. So thankful to you!!

gcounts said:
@kevintm78...thank you for this. I had lost 4g somewhere in all my flashing. I tried reflashing partial firmware and even restoring backups wouldnt give me 4g again.I was getting ready to go through the entire lock, unlock, root process again when I found this thread. I downloaded the full firmware in the op, flashed with flashfire, rebooted into recovery, wiped dalvik, data, cache, and rebooted system. I now have 4g back. I made a nandroid of stock, and then clean flashed LOS and still have 4g. So thankful to you!!
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Yeah man, I'm a bit of a flashaholic too and was having the same issues a while back when experimenting with data fixes and thought that I fried my sim card. Like you I tried the partial first but the only thing that got my 4g back was flashing a full stock firmware. :good:

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[Q] Can't download files on this site

I heard something recently about fileshare sites being shut down...is that what I'm experiencing. Tried to download files from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359068 and none of the links work. Actually a couple did but said I could only download a file I uploaded myself. I tried downloading from another thread on this site and had the same problem. Any solutions/alternatives? How can I download from the link I posted above?
Thanks!
Firecracker_RC said:
I heard something recently about fileshare sites being shut down...is that what I'm experiencing. Tried to download files from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359068 and none of the links work. Actually a couple did but said I could only download a file I uploaded myself. I tried downloading from another thread on this site and had the same problem. Any solutions/alternatives? How can I download from the link I posted above?
Thanks!
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I see a KJ4 link. Have you tried the KJ5 thread? It's the newest one for our 7310.
Hi nirogu325, thanks for replying. This is what I am trying to do:
-Enable adhoc connection so I can use my windows mobile phone as a hotspot for my tabl, and
-Enable USB charging for my tab in my car and elsewhere, not just wall jack.
Based on what I've read, I need busybox (Titanium back up says it's installed but when I downloaded an app called wifiadhocenabler, it says it is not installed. Installing it from the market says I need Nand Unlock and this is where I'm stuck at the moment. Do you know how to perform this on the P7310? Or an easier way to meet the objectives above?
Thanks again
Firecracker_RC said:
Hi nirogu325, thanks for replying. This is what I am trying to do:
-Enable adhoc connection so I can use my windows mobile phone as a hotspot for my tabl, and
-Enable USB charging for my tab in my car and elsewhere, not just wall jack.
Based on what I've read, I need busybox (Titanium back up says it's installed but when I downloaded an app called wifiadhocenabler, it says it is not installed. Installing it from the market says I need Nand Unlock and this is where I'm stuck at the moment. Do you know how to perform this on the P7310? Or an easier way to meet the objectives above?
Thanks again
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I assume you're on a stock firmware. If I were you, I'd flash this specific version which is already rooted and has busybox as you can read in the OP. Also, flash the v2d version of the motley kernel and go here for the USB charging script and instructions on enabling. I know that last link is for the 10.1, but it is the one motley linked to in the v2b version changelog in his kernel thread.
After my soft brick yesterday, I used Odin to "install" the version you attached in your General Guide post P310XARKJ5_P7310UEKJ5_HOME.tar.md5). That's the one, right?
Anyway, the good news is, I decided to install BusyBox without doing the Nand Unlock (maybe it was already done?), and it worked! The wifiadhocenabler app works now and I have a connection to my wm phone! Yay! Before trying the app (for the sake of onlookers) I tried the other method with the wpa_supplicant, such as the one here: http://androidtablethacks.com/android-tablet-hacks/how-to-enable-adhoc-wifi-on-android-tablets/ and it did not work for me. The app did!
So now, I'll try the kernel you posted above and then the USB charging.
I'm going to look over your general guide to see if I can figure out how to flash. I'm guessing it's the same or similar to when I recovered my tab in Odin...?
Firecracker_RC said:
After my soft brick yesterday, I used Odin to "install" the version you attached in your General Guide post P310XARKJ5_P7310UEKJ5_HOME.tar.md5). That's the one, right?
Anyway, the good news is, I decided to install BusyBox without doing the Nand Unlock (maybe it was already done?), and it worked! The wifiadhocenabler app works now and I have a connection to my wm phone! Yay! Before trying the app (for the sake of onlookers) I tried the other method with the wpa_supplicant, such as the one here: http://androidtablethacks.com/android-tablet-hacks/how-to-enable-adhoc-wifi-on-android-tablets/ and it did not work for me. The app did!
So now, I'll try the kernel you posted above and then the USB charging.
I'm going to look over your general guide to see if I can figure out how to flash. I'm guessing it's the same or similar to when I recovered my tab in Odin...?
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If you mean flashing a CWM package as the motley kernel, a file goes in the SDcard, you access the CWM Recovery and flash. That's a generic way BUT depending on what you will flash you may have to wipe. That's why I avoided altogether putting generic instructions regarding CWM packages in my guide (instructions may vary between ROM and kernels). Read your flashable package's thread carefully.
kind of like rooting? Yes, do I have to wipe to flash the motley kernel? I'm not seeing the flashable packages thread, can you point me to it?
Firecracker_RC said:
kind of like rooting? Yes, do I have to wipe to flash the motley kernel? I'm not seeing the flashable packages thread, can you point me to it?
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No, lol. If you want to flash the motley kernel just follow that thread's instructions. I gave you the motley kernel thread link in a previous post. For kernels, no wipe is necessary, for ROMs, yes.
Ok, thank you. lol
Firecracker_RC said:
Ok, thank you. lol
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You're welcome. Some people have the tendency NOT to wipe while flashing ROMs...yet complain later on the road. Always wipe when it comes to ROMs if you want to avoid issues. The only bugs you will experience are the ones that come with the ROM already. Better safe than sorry.
Ah, that leads me to wonder...When my tab was soft bricked and I used Odin3 and inserted the KJ5 file into the PDA section, and so on (I think that was flashing), was I supposed to do a wipe before I did that? If so, would it be better if I started from scratch again? ...hoping not, but better now than latter I'm thinking.
Firecracker_RC said:
Ah, that leads me to wonder...When my tab was soft bricked and I used Odin3 and inserted the KJ5 file into the PDA section, and so on (I think that was flashing), was I supposed to do a wipe before I did that? If so, would it be better if I started from scratch again? ...hoping not, but better now than latter I'm thinking.
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No. ODIN clears everything (including kernels, ROMs and CWM Recoveries). Everything back to stock. I was just referring to flashing other custom ROMs (non-ODIN, i.e. CWM flashable) procedures. Stick to the thread instructions in your chosen ROM and you'll be fine. It's just that some don't follow instructions and due to that, they may experience weird bugs.
That's good news, and strange, because after I used Oden3 (in the way I previously described), all my apps and files were still in tact. Does it just affect the system and not the file memory?
P.S. Hey! I'm no longer a noob! lol I just noticed I am now a "Junior Member".
P.S.S. I'm now running my tablet off my wm hotspot while charging it on my pc! woohoo
Firecracker_RC said:
That's good news, and strange, because after I used Oden3 (in the way I previously described), all my apps and files were still in tact. Does it just affect the system and not the file memory?
P.S. Hey! I'm no longer a noob! lol I just noticed I am now a "Junior Member".
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That is because you didn't check F.Reset Time on the left side of ODIN before flashing. It is advisable to make sure it is checked. Thanks, I'm gonna put that little but important detail in my guide (dunno how I missed that one ). I advise using Titanium Backup (for apps backup) and then ODIN. You might be fine as you are, but if you ever experience something weird then you know.
Firecracker_RC said:
P.S.S. I'm now running my tablet off my wm hotspot while charging it on my pc! woohoo
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I'm glad you made it!
Thanks for your support. If I ever have some extra change and feel like making a donation, I'll keep you in mind! Hey, where's your donation link anyway? Better get one!
nirogu325 said:
That is because you didn't check F.Reset Time on the left side of ODIN before flashing. It is advisable to make sure it is checked. Thanks, I'm gonna put that little but important detail in my guide (dunno how I missed that one ). I advise using Titanium Backup (for apps backup) and then ODIN. You might be fine as you are, but if you ever experience something weird then you know.
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My tablet is definitely a little laggy now, but that could be the 3.2 HC. Since I did not check that off, does it mean that it did not install on a clean wipe? I'm wondering if I should just do it while I remember the path to how I got where I'm at now. I doubt I'll remember everything down the road.
I have been making nandroid backups as well as titanium app backups.
Firecracker_RC said:
My tablet is definitely a little laggy now, but that could be the 3.2 HC. Since I did not check that off, does it mean that it did not install on a clean wipe? I'm wondering if I should just do it while I remember the path to how I got where I'm at now. I doubt I'll remember everything down the road.
I have been making nandroid backups as well as titanium app backups.
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As for donations, nah it's ok, I am no developer. As for the suggestion, it was just that, a suggestion for next time. Keep that in mind. It will become a habit down the road.
Sent from my GT-P7310
nirogu325,
I'm back to do my clean wipe. I performed the wipe/data reset in nandroid and now it's saying there is an update from KJ5 to LA3. Do you still think the custom kj5 is better than the stock LA3? I'm wondering if I should just install the update, root, install the motley kernel and go from there...?
Hope you're well! I still think you should add a donate link...you don't have to be a developer, your assistance/guidance is equally helpful to the community.
While I'm waiting, I flashed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375112 and then I noticed I have the old CMR so I downloaded your updated package: GTab89Files and I cannot paste a single file from that folder onto my tab. I can paste files from other folders, but this one I copy and when I go to paste the paste option is not enabled; if I drag I get a little red circle with a line through it. Any ideas as to why it's rejecting?

[Q] I can only send a text message to 10 people max at one, why?

Hi, when i try to send a text to multiple people with one text message, I'm only allowed to send to 10 people max, is there a way to get rid of this?
Cheers.
Check this thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1371755
I believe this could be a limitation of the ROM or the service you are using. Search the developer forum for a ROM that gets past this limit and check with your phone service provider (I read somewhere that Verizon has this limit, but can't vouch for that as I am in different country)
thanks, but I am new to this whole android world, this is my first android coming from a nokia n900.
I have been reading, but it seems I need to root my phone which is now difficult because as soon as I received the phone i updated it and now have the kernel LA6 instead of original LA4 which is more difficult to root.
As for the thread you provided matius44, does the .apk file only work with ics roms or can one install it with just a rooted GB rom.
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Just so I can be sure, I do want to root, but I'm slightly confused, is it correct in saying that I need to downgrade the fw and kernel to an older stock rootable rom then root the phone? or is this wrong?
Yes- have a look at the developer forum - there are details here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
and here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Dr Ketan is the man!
salespalace said:
thanks, but I am new to this whole android world, this is my first android coming from a nokia n900.
I have been reading, but it seems I need to root my phone which is now difficult because as soon as I received the phone i updated it and now have the kernel LA6 instead of original LA4 which is more difficult to root.
As for the thread you provided matius44, does the .apk file only work with ics roms or can one install it with just a rooted GB rom.
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Just so I can be sure, I do want to root, but I'm slightly confused, is it correct in saying that I need to downgrade the fw and kernel to an older stock rootable rom then root the phone? or is this wrong?
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That used to be the case, but there is now an easier way which flashing pre rooted ROMs directly and you're good to go, here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535025
As for the .apk mod, I never tried myself honestly but there are versions for GB and for ICS, any .apk with ZCLP in it's name is for ICS you don't need that, take the other ones
I've tried dr. ketan's way and it didnt work for me, maybe i didnt know what I was doing,
Ill try these pre rooted roms, I just basically flash them to the phone, does all my data in my phone get wiped off clean? if so, what do i use to make a backup.
btw sorry for all these questions.
and thanks in advance.
It's been that long since I rooted my phone I've forgotten how to do a backup without rooting! Titanium backup needs root.
Have you tried booting into recovery mode then doing a backup from the menu that appears (vol up+home then press power until Galaxy Note boot screen appears then let go of all buttons) I'm pretty sure you can backup from there.
salespalace said:
I've tried dr. ketan's way and it didnt work for me, maybe i didnt know what I was doing,
Ill try these pre rooted roms, I just basically flash them to the phone, does all my data in my phone get wiped off clean? if so, what do i use to make a backup.
btw sorry for all these questions.
and thanks in advance.
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You can have it either ways, wiped clean or not, up to you..
At the pre rooted ROMs thread there is a screen shot showing the three file you will find in the zips and the places they should be put at in Odin, if you do NOT want to wipe your data do NOT choose the CSC file, only flash PDA and phone (modem)
Or you can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps only, do NOT backup system apps but your settings will be lost of course
Your preference
EDIT: Sorry forgot you don't have root lol! Sorry have no idea how to backup without root, try the poster above me suggested
Congrats Matius! 1000 posts! That is great work!
no you can't backup using that method, it just give me options to reboot, wipe everything off and some other things. all i need to backup is mainly my contacts and some data, ill try kies.
Kies should work. I wish I could remember what I did to create the backup - I've done a quick google and only found using adb and a terminal prompt, which I have never used. A quick search of Google Play shows some that may be worth a try and are free.
Wish I could be more help but for the life of me can't remember what I did that first night with my Note and got it to backup.
Good luck with Kies and enjoy flashing ROMs!
even kies doesnt work. i think astro backup will backup my files, as for settings ill just have to deal with it.
OK - good luck!
BTW - If you get heat issues after flashing - don't panic! Leave the phone off for five to ten minutes to cool down then charge it for an hour with the screen off. I found this was my biggest worry when I started flashing. Got really hot - thought the screen would melt. Now I just use the above process and never have problem.
All the best!
TempusFudgeIt said:
Congrats Matius! 1000 posts! That is great work!
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Loool I just noticed this! Thanks!
salespalace said:
no you can't backup using that method, it just give me options to reboot, wipe everything off and some other things. all i need to backup is mainly my contacts and some data, ill try kies.
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Backup contacts with your Google account, most reliable way
thanks all, cant press thanks anymore, 8 thanks limit.
im now on the process rooting, but accidentally added the csc file, oh well..
I don't know if ive rooted, lol.
erm, odin says successful, but nothing seems to be removed, and i mean nothing, everything is still there, even my apps. but i do have two new apps or maybe one not sure. this superuser app, the other is a facebook camera app.
am i rooted? if so... thanks all. now to read through forum to see what the best gingerbread rom is or if ics rom is worth using now.
salespalace said:
I don't know if ive rooted, lol.
erm, odin says successful, but nothing seems to be removed, and i mean nothing, everything is still there, even my apps. but i do have two new apps or maybe one not sure. this superuser app, the other is a facebook camera app.
am i rooted? if so... thanks all. now to read through forum to see what the best gingerbread rom is or if ics rom is worth using now.
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To make sure you are rooted use a file explorer app (root explorer or ES file explorer)and try to copy a file (pic, video or anything) to /system folder
If it's saved then congrats you're rooted

ForceROM & OUDHS are Fantastic!

I'm a newbie here, my 1st post so unable to post in the ForceROM thread. I have very little experience. On my last phone Photon 4G I only rooted so I could use the Wifi Tether app. The ForceROM is absolutely perfect for my needs, even in its 1st version. The included mods 4in1 restart menu and the Hotspot Mod are extremely useful! I have been rocking this ROM for the last 2 days without any issues! I love that it keeps the functionality of TW (I actually like TW and its notifications and menu bar with quick access to settings used everyday) and the S4 while removing all the unwanted Bloatware. I was easily able to follow the instructions given in the OUDHS thread to flash recovery via Odin then root via OUDHS recovery followed by flashing the ForceRom zip via recovery. There were only a few apps I wanted to install for which Unknownforce provided download links for all apps removed from Stock, which I was able to install via the system/apps directory. Great work here! You guys are great. Thanks!
ForceRom Flashing
Kingmdm said:
I'm a newbie here, my 1st post so unable to post in the ForceROM thread. I have very little experience. On my last phone Photon 4G I only rooted so I could use the Wifi Tether app. The ForceROM is absolutely perfect for my needs, even in its 1st version. The included mods 4in1 restart menu and the Hotspot Mod are extremely useful! I have been rocking this ROM for the last 2 days without any issues! I love that it keeps the functionality of TW (I actually like TW and its notifications and menu bar with quick access to settings used everyday) and the S4 while removing all the unwanted Bloatware. I was easily able to follow the instructions given in the OUDHS thread to flash recovery via Odin then root via OUDHS recovery followed by flashing the ForceRom zip via recovery. There were only a few apps I wanted to install for which Unknownforce provided download links for all apps removed from Stock, which I was able to install via the system/apps directory. Great work here! You guys are great. Thanks!
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Noob question here as well... mind if i ask you before you flash the ForceRom, did you wipe data cache etc? but in what order.
Trying to figure this out before i continue
Thanks
juniorr7710 said:
Noob question here as well... mind if i ask you before you flash the ForceRom, did you wipe data cache etc? but in what order.
Trying to figure this out before i continue
Thanks
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Yeah when you flash new roms, you will most likely ALWAYS wipe Data, Cache, Delvik Cache [In this order] then flash ROM, Gapps, ect
Once I have flashed the rom I wipe data and cache again just because im used to doing that but I doubt you have to, reboot and you should be good
blacknet101 said:
Yeah when you flash new roms, you will most likely ALWAYS wipe Data, Cache, Delvik Cache [In this order] then flash ROM, Gapps, ect
Once I have flashed the rom I wipe data and cache again just because im used to doing that but I doubt you have to, reboot and you should be good
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do i also have to do a system restore/wipe?
juniorr7710 said:
do i also have to do a system restore/wipe?
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umm yeah i always do it just in case
i backup everything on my phone to my computer just to be on the safe side
theres a wipe script up now, it will do everything for you and the oudhs recovery is my fav even over cwm! <3 i think cuz my fav color is grey lol and ya the forcerom is grate!
I've been using the ForceROM 1.0 for a while now and really like it too. When I first rooted the stock rom, I tried to get rid of a lot of bloat and some of it I couldn't. So I was glad to see it already done using ForceROM.
The only problem I have is the voicemail. It always says it's trying to verify my account but it never can. Anyone else having this issue?
hm no i am not having that issue at all, if you use sprint update the prl then the profile
mysticjp said:
hm no i am not having that issue at all, if you use sprint update the prl then the profile
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Well this didn't seem to work. When I open the voicemail app, it sits there about 1 minute then finally gives me this error:
Communication with the Voicemail-to-Text server has timed out. We will continue to verify your Voicemail-to-Text account status in the background.
Voicemail service will not be interrupted while we verify the account status.
Also, when I check for updates in voicemail app, it errors out saying "General failure. Please try again at a later time."
Maybe I will try clearing cache and dalvik cache.
call sprint =) im not sure if u have to be subscribed to it or not
id wipe and reflash your setup ive never had a prob with the voicemail program its either something to do with your rom setup or its sprint

[ROM] Blackhole G2 Custom ROM [VZW]

In order to flash this ROM please make sure you have the following:
Nerves of Steel
Root
TWRP 2.6.3.2
A Current Backup
A clear knowledge of how to go back to stock
Disclaimer: Though I have flashed this ROM on my own device with no issues, and it has been beta tested there is no guarantee that yours will behave the same way. It is possible to hard brick your phone while flashing custom ROMs, and I take no responsibility if this happens to you. Please be aware that this is the first public release of this ROM, and has only been tested on a handful of devices. Further, this a ROM made for the Verizon G2 variant, and flashing it on any other version could be disastrous. Proceed at your own risk.
Installation steps:
1. Boot the phone into the TWRP recovery using ADB.
2. Choose "Wipe", then use the slider to start a system restore. This will take 5-10 minutes. (This step should be optional, but I have not tested it without wiping /data, feel free to test, but expect problems and be pleasantly surprised if they don't occur.)
3. Back out to the main menu.
4. Choose "Install"
5. Select "Blackhole_G2_Stock_1.0.zip" from your internal memory.
6. Confirm by using the slider. This will take 5-15 minutes, possibly longer. Do not attempt to reboot your phone or cancel the flash in any way.
7. Choose "Reboot System"
Please E-mail me or post here with any feedback, suggestions, and especially problems you have with the Rom.
Features:
Built on Stock Rooted base by scrosler
Zipaligned
Odexed, since this phone is a pain to deodex and no one has done it yet...
Stripped of almost everything but the bare essentials. As a rule, anything you can get from the play store is gone. Most LG apps are gone. All Verizon apps except mobile hotspot are gone. See screenshot.
Includes the Mobile Hotspot with provisioning removed for free tethering (thanks to WACOMalt for posting)
This ROM is a Clean Rom that is just the first step toward the final goal of an Aroma based installer that will allow you to build your own ROM with whatever features and mods you want. Since no Clean ROM is available yet I thought I'd release just the base for the people who want something lightweight and stable to flash.
KNOW ISSUES:
- If you wipe data when you install (and I suggest you do) you will get an error when you click through the setup wizard, but just continue and you'll be able to complete it.
- In some cases it may ask you to install the Google Play Services, go ahead and do so.
- The Qvoice has been removed, but the shortcut when you drag up and to the left from home is still there for now. It simply does nothing.
- The Help app is included only to disable the annoying popups. All other features of the help app except the icon glossary will cause the app to crash.
Download:
Version 1.0
Missing app installers:
(Coming soon) Copy these to your internal memory and flash via TWRP to restore stock apps that have been removed. Please post if there's something you need back and can't wait for the final version to have it.
Quick Remote
Stock Email
Qvoice
(These will become links as I put the packages together and get them uploaded)
Thanks:
scrosler for the Stock Rooted ROM I used as the base
WACOMalt for posting the modified Mobile Hotspot
Matt (drkow19), heffzilla, triskropf97, and sgtmedeiros for beta testing
Blackhole Universal Installer
I put together a package that will let you easily create your own flashable packages for the Verizon LG G2. All you have to do is grab any apps you are missing and want to add back from the Stock Rooted ROM provided by scrosler. Open the .zip on your computer using 7zip or your archive manager of choice. Place all the .apk and .odex files you want to flash to your phone in the /system/app folder inside the zip file. you can rename this whatever you want. Anyone can feel free to use this to package any mods/apps/themes as well, just create the appropriate folders under the /system folder like /framework or /media.
Reserved for Changelog
AWESOME! Cant wait to try. When you say LG apps are removed, are you removing functionality like knock-on? Or just things like quick remote/Qslide?
Nice job. Good to see this. Will try later. Thanks.
friguy3 said:
AWESOME! Cant wait to try. When you say LG apps are removed, are you removing functionality like knock-on? Or just things like quick remote/Qslide?
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All the LG features, gestures and functionality are left in. Knock-on, Quickwindow, Quickmemo, Qslide, Slide-aside, etc. all work as intended. The LG apps is the stuff like notebook, quick translate,quick remote, email, qvoice etc. Stuff you can get better versions of from the market, or that not everyone uses. In the final rom I'll have them all available to add back, but for now I tried to make it as clean as possible without affecting any of the extra features that LG provides. And if I've removed something that a majority of people want back it can always be added in the next version.
Thanks for this, I remember you from my Fascinate days!
~2.5GB down to 1.04GB....thats a helluva de-bloat!
chrisexv6 said:
Thanks for this, I remember you from my Fascinate days!
~2.5GB down to 1.04GB....thats a helluva de-bloat!
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It needed to be. OG droid ROMs used to be no more than 200MB, now were looking at 10 - 15 times that and it's just crazy. Who wants to download and copy a 2 gig file to their phone? But with Aroma that's what it will end up being. I'd so much rather use Rom Manager like on the fascinate, so you only download what you want, but then you're downloading over a gig straight to the phone. Oh well.
sonofskywalker3 said:
It needed to be. OG droid ROMs used to be no more than 200MB, now were looking at 10 - 15 times that and it's just crazy. Who wants to download and copy a 2 gig file to their phone? But with Aroma that's what it will end up being. I'd so much rather use Rom Manager like on the fascinate, so you only download what you want, but then you're downloading over a gig straight to the phone. Oh well.
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Will the size drop (a lot?) once it can finally be de-odex-ed ?
chrisexv6 said:
Will the size drop (a lot?) once it can finally be de-odex-ed ?
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I'd say not significantly.
well looks like i have a reason to install recovery now. will be flashing this tonight, thanks for the hard work man!
xjacobx said:
well looks like i have a reason to install recovery now. will be flashing this tonight, thanks for the hard work man!
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That apps screen is a thing of beauty. Cannot wait to install this and remove Downloads, Tasks and Weather!!!
Beaumac said:
That apps screen is a thing of beauty. Cannot wait to install this and remove Downloads, Tasks and Weather!!!
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First three I hid myself. Tasks and Weather will be optional in the final build.
Not sure if you want requests or not, but do you plan on adding features like:
- Black/Transparent nav and status bar
- Removal of location icon
- Remove AM/PM - Do you know if this one is possible?
- AOSP status bar icons
I am on the other VZW rooted rom in the same section of XDA this rom is in with TWRP recovery. I am not on the latest TWRP recovery. After I get on the latest recovery, do I wipe factory reset, clear caches and flash like it was with the GNex? I just really do not want to have to worry about bootlooping and such. This looks like the rom I am looking for.....thanks, I appreciate any helpful responses..
That's a good question. It is the stock ROM essentially
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dmbfan13 said:
Not sure if you want requests or not, but do you plan on adding features like:
- Black/Transparent nav and status bar
- Removal of location icon
- Remove AM/PM - Do you know if this one is possible?
- AOSP status bar icons
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yes, those features are intended to be an optional part of the final product. I just wanted to release something people could flash for an easy debloat now. Since this is a stock based rom built off the OTA, any mods that work with the OTA should work with this ROM, I just haven't tested them yet. I am not much of a modder, but I intend to add available mods to the Aroma installer for the final ROM, with permission of the creator of course.
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I am on the other VZW rooted rom in the same section of XDA this rom is in with TWRP recovery. I am not on the latest TWRP recovery. After I get on the latest recovery, do I wipe factory reset, clear caches and flash like it was with the GNex? I just really do not want to have to worry about bootlooping and such. This looks like the rom I am looking for.....thanks, I appreciate any helpful responses..
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Once you have flashed the latest version of TWRP, I do recommend wiping data and cache. This should notbe necessary, but I haven't done enough testing to say for sure. If you have opened and used apps on stock that have been removed in the ROM, it's difficult to say what dependencies they may have created. If you are concerned about getting a bootloop, then wipe. If you are prepared to restore to stock with the link in the OP, then go ahead and don't wipe and hope for the best. Again, it should work, but I haven't had anyone test it yet.
And ultimately, if you're on the latest version of TWRP, I believe they fixed the issues with booting into recovery with the hardware buttons, so if you do get caught in a bootloop you should be able to enter TWRP and restore a backup. Someone please correct me if I misunderstood this, "2.6.3.2 removes /misc from the recovery.fstab which prevents factory reset when you use the key combo to enter recovery."
sonofskywalker3 said:
yes, those features are intended to be an optional part of the final product. I just wanted to release something people could flash for an easy debloat now. Since this is a stock based rom built off the OTA, any mods that work with the OTA should work with this ROM, I just haven't tested them yet. I am not much of a modder, but I intend to add available mods to the Aroma installer for the final ROM, with permission of the creator of course.
Once you have flashed the latest version of TWRP, I do recommend wiping data and cache. This should notbe necessary, but I haven't done enough testing to say for sure. If you have opened and used apps on stock that have been removed in the ROM, it's difficult to say what dependencies they may have created. If you are concerned about getting a bootloop, then wipe. If you are prepared to restore to stock with the link in the OP, then go ahead and don't wipe and hope for the best. Again, it should work, but I haven't had anyone test it yet.
And ultimately, if you're on the latest version of TWRP, I believe they fixed the issues with booting into recovery with the hardware buttons, so if you do get caught in a bootloop you should be able to enter TWRP and restore a backup. Someone please correct me if I misunderstood this, "2.6.3.2 removes /misc from the recovery.fstab which prevents factory reset when you use the key combo to enter recovery."
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Is the LG filesystem any different from the filesystem on the Gnex?
If not, Ive had great success using the Android Revolution SuperWipe script before flashing a ROM. I add it as the first zip in the queue on TWRP and it handles wiping all of the caches/data/system
If I know for sure it will work on the G2 Id be happy to provide a dropbox link.
Works great but it force closed on the initial install when i tried to do the email part and the stock email app is not there otherwise so far so good
Glad to see it posted! Still running great for me, thanks again!
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk 4
chrisexv6 said:
Is the LG filesystem any different from the filesystem on the Gnex?
If not, Ive had great success using the Android Revolution SuperWipe script before flashing a ROM. I add it as the first zip in the queue on TWRP and it handles wiping all of the caches/data/system
If I know for sure it will work on the G2 Id be happy to provide a dropbox link.
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I don't have a Gnex handy to confirm but I'm almost certain the partitions would be different. Thanks for the suggestion though.
bckrupps said:
Works great but it force closed on the initial install when i tried to do the email part and the stock email app is not there otherwise so far so good
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If you need the stock Email I'll have it available in a flashable package listed in the OP later tonight.
heffzilla said:
Glad to see it posted! Still running great for me, thanks again!
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk 4
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And thank you for your feedback on the beta version.

At&t S 5 Active Restore Thread (NE4) (NO MORE SUPPORT)

NO MORE SUPPORT.....GAME OVER
Did you delete your data, system, safestrap is gone, only download mode and stock recovery are available? Do you want to start fresh and out of the box new?
(( FOR s 5 ACTIVE )) NE4​Thanks to @ted77usa & @Intub8 for the help. SAM MOBILE for the Firmware and steps. KNOX was not tripped. Nothing was after this. It worked perfectly.
Just FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS
Do this at your own risk. If you don't read and mess up your phone, its not my fault . As long as you can get into download mode, this will help out a lot. I am not responsible for what you do to your device.
Odin Back to s5 Active Stock. NE4​
Make sure you have the Samsung drivers installed before starting.
Samsung USB drivers
Make sure USB debugging is checked under settings/developer options. If you don't know how to do that, go to "about device" in settings, and click on "Build Number x5 till you unlock Developer options".
Extract (unzip) the firmware file (NE4) HERE
Download Odin v3.09 HERE
Extract Odin zip-file
Open Odin v3.09
Reboot phone in Download Mode (press and hold Home + Power + Volume Down buttons)
Connect phone and wait until you get a blue sign in Odin
Add the firmware file to AP / PDA
Make sure re-partition is NOT ticked
Click the start button, sit back and wait a few minutes
Note : Some users are getting stuck at long At&t screen, once odin finishes and you happen to get stuck, reboot to stock recovery and factory reset your phone.
It should boot up just fine after that. The At&t screen sometimes takes a while.
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You can do this below if you want. I have done this about 5 or 6 times. #6 and 7 happens sometimes.​
I wanted to be totally fresh and wanted to use "Wipe Data (YES)" in safestrap. Here is what I did and what happened.
My phone has been really good since this and all is smooth.
Things to do to be fresh and start all the way over out of box style:
1. Make sure you have done a back up, and your ready to restore with Odin.
2. Go into Safestrap
3. Go to WIPE tab > Factory reset
4. Advanced wipe, (Wipe > Dalvik Cache, "NOT Micro SDcard"> Data, Cache, System)
5. For really starting over > next to Advanced wipe is "Format Data" do that and type YES
6. This will get rid of safestrap and everything so you will get a black screen once it deletes all.
7. Try to catch it and go into download mode before it boots to the Samsung screen (Which it will stay there FOREVER)
(As soon as your phone does this, try to catch it before the samsung screen and go into download mode. When it turns black, quickly hold Power + Volume down + home button. )
8. While in download mode, flash the restore firmware.
9. Let it do its thing and you will be factory new.
10. After it all settles down and you are back up and running, you can start like I do.
(Root with V3 (Make it Rain), Install and update SU, Reboot 3 times lol, install busybox, install safestrap, install xposed, reboot, install your modules, reboot, power down and boot back but go into safestrap and wipe dalvik cache and regular cache. Reboot. lol- Install all your apps you like or have your backups from titanium on your sd card and restore) Reboot and go into safestrap again and fix permissions and reboot lol...... BAM. (Your phone should be sick and you should throw up on it)
LINKS
NE4 (THE MAIN FILE YOU NEED)
[KITKAT:ND3]
LATEST BETA FILE: Safestrap-KLTEATT-ND3-3.75-B03.apk
XDA Downloads Safestrap
Mirror 1 (Crackflasher) Safestrap
BUSYBOX
SUPERSU
Just make sure the model number matches yours and you should be all set. That file should contain everything you need to get back to stock. Follow the directions listed underneath the firmware.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Thanks. All is good and I can confirm this works on the At&t S 5 Active (NE4).
I am fresh to start over.
Edit: All is good. Rooted, Busybox, Froze bloat etc. Safestraped, Backuped, Phone is running great!!
Intub8 said:
Just make sure the model number matches yours and you should be all set. That file should contain everything you need to get back to stock. Follow the directions listed underneath the firmware.
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Thanks. Its working!!!!! I thought this wasn't out yet. Looks out to me.
I will update OP and get on my XDA app to hit thanks. Thanks for pointing out the simple directions I failed to see on SAM mobile. My phone is back
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Thanks. Its working!!!!! I thought this wasn't out yet. Looks out to me.
I will update OP and get on my XDA app to hit thanks. Thanks for pointing out the simple directions I failed to see on SAM mobile. My phone is back
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Glad that worked out for u bud.....[emoji41][emoji106]
☆Swyped From SFive SS Edition☆
I wonder if this would work on the regular S5? If someone tries and it does please report back....THanks
LuckyColdJohnson said:
I wonder if this would work on the regular S5? If someone tries and it does please report back....THanks
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WWWHYY would you even want to know if this will work when you have your own firmware?! Then you try and convince someone else to take the plunge and try instead of you doing it? Just wondering why... cause i'm very baffled right now.
Caliesv said:
WWWHYY would you even want to know if this will work when you have your own firmware?! Then you try and convince someone else to take the plunge and try instead of you doing it? Just wondering why... cause i'm very baffled right now.
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Uhhhh. I'm sorry you feel that way. I was running s 5 ROMS just fine on my phone. Their basicly the same but with a few different specs.
What plunge are you talking about dude? I have soft bricked my phone (formated data) and used this to start fresh. The more we know the better. I have done it. Its fine. I have ran NCE NE4, you must not know whats going on here. That what this thread is for. Restoring your phone to factory defaults. I have done it for the Active and if someone did it on their regular s 5 than I want to know.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Uhhhh. I'm sorry you feel that way. I was running s 5 ROMS just fine on my phone. Their basicly the same but with a few different specs.
What plunge are you talking about dude? I have soft bricked my phone (formated data) and used this to start fresh. The more we know the better. I have done it. Its fine. I have ran NC2 NE4, you must not know whats going on here. That what this thread is for. Restoring your phone to factory defaults. I have done it for the Active and if someone did it on their regular s 5 than I want to know. THATS IT. Now go here for being mean > CLICK ME @Caliesv
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LOL! nice actually made me laugh! lol i hear ya man. i was just wondering why. and you full fulled my wondering. thanks
Caliesv said:
LOL! nice actually made me laugh! lol i hear ya man. i was just wondering why. and you full fulled my wondering. thanks
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Its all good. I'm glad I made you laugh too. Really. I'm just messing with ya a little....This thread is for Active users. Like I said, if this can work for the regular S 5, then I will update the OP for S5/S5 Actives only. Thats all. I was on NCE (A regular S 5 ROM) when I did this and it worked perfectly.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Its all good. I'm glad I made you laugh too. Really. I'm just messing with ya a little....This thread is for Active users. Like I said, if this can work for the regular S 5, then I will update the OP for S5/S5 Actives only. Thats all. I was on NCE (A regular S 5 ROM) when I did this and it worked perfectly.
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No worries man lol. yeah i have an active too. i hope we get our own thread soon. And thanks for the steps, tons of people are going to need it lol
Caliesv said:
No worries man lol. yeah i have an active too. i hope we get our own thread soon. And thanks for the steps, tons of people are going to need it lol
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10-4.....It really helped me when I screwed up. This worked 100% for me. I have flashed over 5 different ROMS from T-Mobile, International, as well as At&t ROMs we have. Sometimes its better to start all the way over fresh. Sometimes we get into a pickle and need to start over. This will help us.....Thanks !!!!
Continued thanks for being our official S5 Active tester. I'm glad to hear you got it back to running and that you were able to find the firmware for our G870A. This will come in handy when I get my phone past the point of no return, it usually takes me a month or so but I'll get there.
Please keep us informed as your tests, trials and discoveries continue!
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Continued thanks for being our official S5 Active tester. I'm glad to hear you got it back to running and that you were able to find the firmware for our G870A. This will come in handy when I get my phone past the point of no return, it usually takes me a month or so but I'll get there.
Please keep us informed as your tests, trials and discoveries continue!
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No problem. Looking at a GPS issue now. Something has screwed it all up. Probably a module or two (exposed) Almost tempted to restore again and test before each install.
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If you go back to stock and the GPS still doesn't initiate let me know. There was a way to hard reset the GPS that I came across on the gs3 that may work. Every time I flash a rom if it's acting goofy I wipe everything and go back to 100% stock. Sometimes things get stuck and left behind that can muck things up. Think of it like a colon clense for your phone. Glad the Odin worked for you.
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Intub8 said:
If you go back to stock and the GPS still doesn't initiate let me know. There was a way to hard reset the GPS that I came across on the gs3 that may work. Every time I flash a rom if it's acting goofy I wipe everything and go back to 100% stock. Sometimes things get stuck and left behind that can muck things up. Think of it like a colon clense for your phone. Glad the Odin worked for you.
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Yes, Please share if you don't mind. I broke the GPS lol. I don't believe flashing this official firmware did it though, I think flashing different ROM's did it but who am I......I found a GPS fix I used for my Note 3 (Kit Kat) You have to flash it in recovery. Is that how yours is? Here is the file for you to check out if you want to. I haven't flashed it yet though. >>>> Deleted Link ....That didnt work. Got random reboots.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Yes, Please share if you don't mind. I broke the GPS lol. I don't believe flashing this official firmware did it though, I think flashing different ROM's did it but who am I......I found a GPS fix I used for my Note 3 (Kit Kat) You have to flash it in recovery. Is that how yours is? Here is the file for you to check out if you want to. I haven't flashed it yet though. >>>> Deleted Link ....That didnt work. Got random reboots.
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Found it after about an hour of looking , You must Odin back to a stock ROM first.
((((2. Enter into dialer *2767*3855# (Will do a HARD reset, no internal storage will be lost except the usual data)
3. Boot up again and run... )))
keep in mind this was the method to fix the gps on the note 2 and it may or may not still be a good dialer code for your s5.
Intub8 said:
Found it after about an hour of looking , You must Odin back to a stock ROM first.
((((2. Enter into dialer *2767*3855# (Will do a HARD reset, no internal storage will be lost except the usual data)
3. Boot up again and run... )))
keep in mind this was the method to fix the gps on the note 2 and it may or may not still be a good dialer code for your s5.
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I restored a back up and it's working again. Something I installed did it. I'm trying to figure out what did. It could be anything. Thanks for this.
Caliesv said:
WWWHYY would you even want to know if this will work when you have your own firmware?! Then you try and convince someone else to take the plunge and try instead of you doing it? Just wondering why... cause i'm very baffled right now.
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And @Caliesv I would ask you Why Not? The whole point of unlocking/rooting/building custom ROMs is because WE CAN, and how better to learn what we can and can't do then by trying? Just because a device has its own firmware has absolutely no bearing on what ROM you flash, granted as the default firmware it likely wont flash do to a signature mismatch but as a custom ROM why not?
I might just build one for the Heck of it.
GPS is a problem still. About to re-flash the restore and see what happens without root. Will report back.

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