[Redmi 4A] Unlocking Bootloader reason - Xiaomi Redmi 4a Questions & Answers

I applied for unlocking bootloader for my Redmi 4A, using this reason:
'For flashing custom ROM'
Do you think that my request will be denied for being too honest?

This is good reason.

ditto
laggykiller said:
I applied for unlocking bootloader for my Redmi 4A, using this reason:
'For flashing custom ROM'
Do you think that my request will be denied for being too honest?
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I did the same 6 months ago for 3S prime . still waiting for approval

kapil.git said:
I did the same 6 months ago for 3S prime . still waiting for approval
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Yeah. I usually say something like "I am a developer working on advanced backup software and I need to unlock the bootloader to root on my device" or something like that. Anything that sounds legitmate should be fine, and I get my unlock codes pretty soon after that.
FYI, since this is the top thread when you search for "Redmi 4a XDA" on Google (not sure why) I figured I'd drop a link to the main thread for the Redmi 4a which contains all the info you need about root, bootloader unlock, custom ROMs and development: https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/xiaomi-redmi-4a-chat-root-sd-425-2gb-t3511933

i did it with my redmi 3. 1st request was left unanswered. a week later i make another request with same reason as you and it got approved the next day.i think it has nothing to do with the reason, but the time and chances that they go through your request.

Chances are the request approval is automated and it looks for certain keywords to approve or dismiss. Try again with some reason as in Post #4 it might work.

Instead of custom rom, give the reason as custom recovery and something like you are very fond of customizing your device
and also root can also be a good reason. You can tell them that you are a developer or someone who likes to find fixes for issues and for that you need to complete control over the apps

I just say " I want to full control on my device" . and I get approval after 4 hours

I said that "I'm developing something"...and...you know what happens...
Sent from my Redmi 3 using XDA Labs

The most honest answer would be...
"I own it and am not locked in with any carrier obligations"
But, I'd probably be a wise guy with...
"I own it and am not locked in with any carrier obligations and, if this request is denied, please provide me with a full refund and I'll be more than happy to return it to you then provide this information and a statement to the Associated Press."
LMAO!!!
"Live Long and Prosper..."
~Ambassador S'chn T'gai Spock
Sent via Communicator [D2VZW] from the Bridge of the U.S.S. Enterprise [NCC-1701].

I applied to unlock my bootloader today by saying I wanted to install a customized ROM so I could tweak the phone to my specification. Got permission less than 10 minutes later.

i just fill that with
"my phone in bootloop mode, and I understand that I can only revive it by using fastboot mode without lost any data. please help me, I'm big fans of your redmi series"
maybe sounds funny, but I just got my permission a minute after submit that

just now unboxed my phone Redmi 4A (SD version-India),
want Unlock Bootloader & root with stock rom and ota safe. xD

But well, better fill out your own reason, as Xiaomi is stricting their bootloader unlock policy.
Sent from my Redmi 3 using XDA Labs

dejoxy said:
I applied to unlock my bootloader today by saying I wanted to install a customized ROM so I could tweak the phone to my specification. Got permission less than 10 minutes later.
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cikmon94 said:
i just fill that with
"my phone in bootloop mode, and I understand that I can only revive it by using fastboot mode without lost any data. please help me, I'm big fans of your redmi series"
maybe sounds funny, but I just got my permission a minute after submit that
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That fast now? what's your "forum rank"? I requested the permission a year ago (I had a Redmi 3) and it took me a week while still being new..
And yeah, as long it's not look 'template-y' then it's fine.

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thatOneWeeaboo said:
That fast now? what's your "forum rank"? I requested the permission a year ago (I had a Redmi 3) and it took me a week while still being new..
And yeah, as long it's not look 'template-y' then it's fine.
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I dont know about rank, but only active my account ofr downloading from miui forum and unlock bootloader. maybe newbie. but same situation, got permission only a minute after request. maybe luck

I just said that "I shall unlock the phone one way or another with or without your permission"

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Anyone else getting the feeling there will be no Nougat for our device?

I have a sixth sense for when a device has been all but abandoned, and I am getting that feeling now. Considering they just released a huge MIUI update without the Mix, I can't say I am particularly hopeful for the future of this phone. May be time to throw it up on swappa while it's still worth something.
Mimimi
loudog3114 said:
I have a sixth sense for when a device has been all but abandoned, and I am getting that feeling now. Considering they just released a huge MIUI update without the Mix, I can't say I am particularly hopeful for the future of this phone. May be time to throw it up on swappa while it's still worth something.
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The "huge MIUI update" you are referring to is MIUI 8.2. If you check your device info, you'll see that the Mix is already running MIUI 8.2. This is why you didn't see the Mix in the list of updated devices.
Now, regarding the Nougat update, considering Xiaomi built a lot of hype with the Mix, it is unlikely that Xiaomi will abandon this device.
But Xiaomi has a history of abandoning some really good devices like the MiPad. So we'll never know.
Well, no, its 8.2 global. A global rom doesn't even exist for the Mix. So I consider that a huge update.
N for the mix is already in testing according to mods on the eu and official forum. Also recently saw a listing for the mi mix EVO with a qc835, plus the CEO wants to build another mix....My gut feeling is this phone isn't going anywhere and we will have N within a quarter. Remember the s7 just got N on carriers in the US this week.
satishp said:
The "huge MIUI update" you are referring to is MIUI 8.2. If you check your device info, you'll see that the Mix is already running MIUI 8.2. This is why you didn't see the Mix in the list of updated devices.
Now, regarding the Nougat update, considering Xiaomi built a lot of hype with the Mix, it is unlikely that Xiaomi will abandon this device.
But Xiaomi has a history of abandoning some really good devices like the MiPad. So we'll never know.
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I just got my device, and i see that i have MIUI Global 8.0. 8.0.8.0.0. Dies that mean that my phone is Running outdated version? When i try to uppdate it says no uppdates awailable... I am from Norway, if it helps.
FartingAngel said:
I just got my device, and i see that i have MIUI Global 8.0. 8.0.8.0.0. Dies that mean that my phone is Running outdated version? When i try to uppdate it says no uppdates awailable... I am from Norway, if it helps.
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Fake vendor rom
Razorbacktrack5535 said:
Fake vendor rom
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Oh.. that does not sound any good. Do you think it can have something to do with norwegian language/menus?
Should i change ROM? I mean is it a lot to gain on it or is it the same thing? And if i do, will i be able to get norwegian language? I am completelly noob do need all the answers with a tea spoon
I also wonder why the phone does not sudgest an uppdate for 8.2 - does it mean that i cant uppdate my phone for future?
FartingAngel said:
Oh.. that does not sound any good. Do you think it can have something to do with norwegian language/menus?
Should i change ROM? I mean is it a lot to gain on it or is it the same thing? And if i do, will i be able to get norwegian language? I am completelly noob do need all the answers with a tea spoon
I also wonder why the phone does not sudgest an uppdate for 8.2 - does it mean that i cant uppdate my phone for future?
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You won't receive any updates as long as you're on the Vendor ROM. You need to flash to the EU ROM or one of the custom ROMs in this forum using the guides provided. The guides are quite straightforward. So you'll safely boot the ROM you want providing you follow the guides EXACTLY.
I personally prefer the Xiaomi.EU ROM and I just checked the languages available on this ROM for you. Found "Norsk Bokmal" in the list of available language options. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this is Norwegian. I am not sure though as I don't know the language.
Cheers!
satishp said:
You won't receive any updates as long as you're on the Vendor ROM. You need to flash to the EU ROM or one of the custom ROMs in this forum using the guides provided. The guides are quite straightforward. So you'll safely boot the ROM you want providing you follow the guides EXACTLY.
I personally prefer the Xiaomi.EU ROM and I just checked the languages available on this ROM for you. Found "Norsk Bokmal" in the list of available language options. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this is Norwegian. I am not sure though as I don't know the language.
Cheers!
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Ty! Norsk bokmål it is )
I will try tomorrow.. the only sad thing is that i have to root and than i cant play pokemon go with my litle brother anymore :/
satishp said:
But Xiaomi has a history of abandoning some really good devices like the MiPad. So we'll never know.
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Whilst in no way invalidating the examples of times when their support wasn't great, there have also been times when Xiaomi's support for their devices has been well-above-average - someone recently posted a thread on reddit detailing one such example.
So we can't read too much into previous devices as a guide for what will happen with the Mix.
These sorts of threads appear for almost every device - it doesn't matter which device or which manufacturer, they inevitably pop up. People convince themselves they know what's going to happen and, most of the time, they're wrong.
Not to mention, Xiaomi have publicly stated the Mix will be one of their devices to be updated to Nougat.
A pretty unnecessary thing to say if they're secretly planning to ignore it.
FartingAngel said:
Ty! Norsk bokmål it is )
I will try tomorrow.. the only sad thing is that i have to root and than i cant play pokemon go with my litle brother anymore :/
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Rooting the phone is not a necessity to flash the EU ROM.. You should flash the dm-verity and forced encryption disabler patch on TWRP if you don't plan to root. Follow the guides exactly and you'll be fine.
satishp said:
Rooting the phone is not a necessity to flash the EU ROM.. You should flash the dm-verity and forced encryption disabler patch on TWRP if you don't plan to root. Follow the guides exactly and you'll be fine.
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Ok, ty for pointers! I have not full understandig of what the different words mean when it comes to flash, twrp and even root. I will have to read a lot before starting.
But i have to root in order to get epic rom, right?
FartingAngel said:
Ok, ty for pointers! I have not full understandig of what the different words mean when it comes to flash, twrp and even root. I will have to read a lot before starting.
But i have to root in order to get epic rom, right?
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No, you have to unlock your bootloader only and flash TWRP using fastboot. But after installing Epic you're rooted anyway. Epic is pre rooted. For unlock procedure google unlock Xiaomi for example. Best is you start here:
http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Gesendet von meinem Xiaomi Mi MIX
Mine updated to 8.2.2.0 OTA just fine soon after I got things setup [it wanted or offered the update soon after being turned on - but I needed to sort stuff out first]. Abandoned ... hardly ... having run 7 on the Honor 8 and the Mate 9 ... its not THAT huge a thing to wait for it to come along through the usual process. Give it time and be patient, phones only a few months old anyways.

Unlocking Bootloader on MIUI 8.1.2.0 Global | Stable.

Hi everyone,
A week ago I purchased a MI5. I'm on MIUI 8.1.2.0 global stable ROM.
Actually it feels like a prisoner without having root access on my device. So I need to root it ASAP.
The problem begins here. I need to unlock the boot loader first. I just heard that after MIUI 7.5 Xiaomi refuses all the unlocking request from stable ROM. Then how can I unlock my bootloader ?
Can anyone give me a tutorial of unlocking bootloader of MI5 running MIUI 8.1.2.0 Global | Stable ?
Please let me know how to get an unlocked bootloader and get me out of this prison. ??
[ I attached my About Phone Screen. ]
rhrokib said:
Hi everyone,
Please let me know how to get an unlocked bootloader and get me out of this prison.
[ I attached my About Phone Screen. ]
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I can't post links yet, but do a search on google for "mi devices bootloader unlocking faq". Click on the first link from the search result. There should be enough info on that page to get you started.
rhrokib said:
Hi everyone,
A week ago I purchased a MI5. I'm on MIUI 8.1.2.0 global stable ROM.
Actually it feels like a prisoner without having root access on my device. So I need to root it ASAP.
The problem begins here. I need to unlock the boot loader first. I just heard that after MIUI 7.5 Xiaomi refuses all the unlocking request from stable ROM. Then how can I unlock my bootloader ?
Can anyone give me a tutorial of unlocking bootloader of MI5 running MIUI 8.1.2.0 Global | Stable ?
Please let me know how to get an unlocked bootloader and get me out of this prison.
[ I attached my About Phone Screen. ]
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What? I bought mine a month ago and just used the english version of the xiaomi site for the unlocking request
lukypuie said:
What? I bought mine a month ago and just used the english version of the xiaomi site for the unlocking request
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You were in MIUI 8.1 ?
with Global Stock ROM ?
croweater said:
I can't post links yet, but do a search on google for "mi devices bootloader unlocking faq". Click on the first link from the search result. There should be enough info on that page to get you started.
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I just did. It helped me but didn't give my solution. Thanks anyway. ?
Same case with me
for the unlock procedure start from here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
...with a working MIUI account (on your phone) you make the request, and the waiting time will be from 1 day to xyz days.
Two advices: 1) in the "why you want to unlock" put the real reason and do not do a copy&paste because refusal from xiaomi is -in such cases- possible; 2) set up your 64bit computer with the proper drivers (windoze is a b####).
Note: Sometimes the sms will not arrive (carrier problems), so check the unlock software to see if you are good to go.
For the flashing guides and roms here: http://en.miui.com/download-299.html
And here is the english forum of the miui: http://en.miui.com/forum-92-1.html
So, while you are waiting for the approval, do a search here on xda and there on miui for the best practice to do what you need.
glogal said:
for the unlock procedure start from here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
...with a working MIUI account (on your phone) you make the request, and the waiting time will be from 1 day to xyz days.
Two advices: 1) in the "why you want to unlock" put the real reason and do not do a copy&paste because refusal from xiaomi is -in such cases- possible; 2) set up your 64bit computer with the proper drivers (windoze is a b####).
Note: Sometimes the sms will not arrive (carrier problems), so check the unlock software to see if you are good to go.
For the flashing guides and roms here: http://en.miui.com/download-299.html
And here is the english forum of the miui: http://en.miui.com/forum-92-1.html
So, while you are waiting for the approval, do a search here on xda and there on miui for the best practice to do what you need.
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Thank you sir.
I already applied to Xiaomi. Now it's waiting time.
i have the same problem, i want install xiaomi.eu rom and waiting for approved unlock bootloader.
Please write when you get approved to unlock.
bastard79 said:
i have the same problem, i want install xiaomi.eu rom and waiting for approved unlock bootloader.
Please write when you get approved to unlock.
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It took 4 days for me.
Now I'm unlocked.
glogal said:
for the unlock procedure start from here: http://en.miui.com/unlock/
...with a working MIUI account (on your phone) you make the request, and the waiting time will be from 1 day to xyz days.
Two advices: 1) in the "why you want to unlock" put the real reason and do not do a copy&paste because refusal from xiaomi is -in such cases- possible; 2) set up your 64bit computer with the proper drivers (windoze is a b####).
Note: Sometimes the sms will not arrive (carrier problems), so check the unlock software to see if you are good to go.
For the flashing guides and roms here: http://en.miui.com/download-299.html
And here is the english forum of the miui: http://en.miui.com/forum-92-1.html
So, while you are waiting for the approval, do a search here on xda and there on miui for the best practice to do what you need.
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specially thanks.
Can't root my Mi5
Did you manage to root your phone?
I have the exact same situation, where I managed to unlock my phone by I still don't have root. There is security app does not have the "root access" option in the "permissions" menu
I tried flashing the the latest miui global dev rom as explained here en.miui.com/thread-267361-1-1.html, but I get a "Can't verify update! You're allowed to flash the newest develop version published by miui from stable version only" message.

Deleted mi account without removing from device

I was on custom non miui based ROM and while signing up on miui forum app(wanted to sign up for miui 10 beta) I messed up the username. Someone suggested the only solution being delete mi account and create new one. I did that and everything worked good.
Problem got known when I tried installing miui based ROM. As soon as the screen boots, it ask for password of mi account which I have deleted earlier. I know the password but it won't work as account don't exist.
I tried getting support from mi support but they said only available solution is to go to service centre but is far from my place.
I have tried the following things:
Reverting back to miui 8 (as miui 7 is not available), this way I can access the miui ROM but still can't change mi account.
I have not yet tried mi tools available as they were not tested on mi max 2 and I am afraid it might hard brick my device.
If anyone have ever faced any such issue and found some solution, please share any info. Possible.
Note: My device is not unusable as I can install all non miui based roms but still this happened at the time of release of miui 10 which I cannot try anymore.
Please try to provide a solution that won't have the risk of hard bricking the device as this is the only device that I own.
Thanks in advance.
Try creating the same username and see if you can access the phone again on MIUI.
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Try creating the same username and see if you can access the phone again on MIUI.
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Isn't username generated at random, It just ask for email id, phone no.?
Also I don't remember the old account user name only first and last two or three digits as in screenshot:
Thanks for the reply
ayush4261 said:
Isn't username generated at random, It just ask for email id, phone no.?
Also I don't remember the old account user name only first and last two or three digits as in screenshot:
Thanks for the reply
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Well, the username is not random, but the ID number indeed it is.
Flash official fastboot global beta rom remove simcards or put on aeroplane mode and reboot now complete set up wizard..
Afters 1st boo
boot register ur mobile
Wow i solved u r problem
aumtaigor said:
Flash official fastboot global beta rom remove simcards or put on aeroplane mode and reboot now complete set up wizard..
Afters 1st boo
boot register ur mobile
Wow i solved u r problem
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Well, sorry to say but it won't work. It won't let pass the screen of login and account is not just connected to aim but linked with device as well. Even after removing aim and trying to boot, the screen to login with existing account popped up.
Thanks for replying though.
Anyway guys, romfactory helped me bypass the screen and thanks to him now I am on miui. Just minor issues are left to check so that the screen won't appear on next miui flash.
Thanks allot everyone who tried to help especially romfactory.
:good:
Mind sharing was the solution was? Could be helpful for others.
Thanks
seti007 said:
Mind sharing was the solution was? Could be helpful for others.
Thanks
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Sorry for the late reply. But it turns out it didn't work. Even after able to access Miui, the mi account and mi cloud force close keeps popping up every now on them.
Also the moment you restart either your device will go into bootloop or the log in to mi account will pop up again.
Which implies only solution is the official one i.e
1. To mail contact customer support and mail them whatever details they ask(screenshot attached), this one is free.
Note:
-This will take 4-5 days approx.
-Dont just mail to support at your own country. Rather mail to atleast 3,4 countries.
(3 of them replied copy paste unasked info. Whereas Malaysia and Singapore customer support understood my query and asked for further info as in screenshot)
-You can contact them from here:
https://www.mi.com/en/support/contact/
2. To take your mobile to nearby Xiaomi service centre(they need a copy of your identity and address proof plus a copy of your purchase invoice, they will charge a specified fee for it(180 Indian Rupees in my case)
Note:
-This one will take 2-3 days approx.
(Remember to backup and erase your data before handing it over)
-This solution won't always work as sometimes even the support centre don't know how to deal with this issue and they will try factory reset only. If it didn't work for you always remember to go back to first option.
Hope this helps.
Just to let you know I am still awaiting reply from Malaysian Xiaomi support centre. Also romfactory has talked to few of his friends who work in mi support so my problem will be solved in some time.
Screenshot details asked by xiaomi
Finally mi support team unlocked my mi account and I am replying via miui ROM with my own new mi account set.
I sent the mail to support team on 13 July and today(24 July) they replied that we have unlocked your account.
ayush4261 said:
Finally mi support team unlocked my mi account and I am replying via miui ROM with my own new mi account set.
I sent the mail to support team on 13 July and today(24 July) they replied that we have unlocked your account.
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My new Redmond note 5 pro is locked with deleted account. I hard reset it but can't help.please some one tell me this issue has a solution or not please.
Kiran dongre said:
My new Redmond note 5 pro is locked with deleted account. I hard reset it but can't help.please some one tell me this issue has a solution or not please.
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Please read my comments above. I have provided the solution that worked for me. And yes it definitely has a solution, if nothing works, you can still go to mi store nearby, they will unlock in 2 days.
ayush4261 said:
Please read my comments above. I have provided the solution that worked for me. And yes it definitely has a solution, if nothing works, you can still go to mi store nearby, they will unlock in 2 days.
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mistake flashing miui 10

hi all. have MI 8 with 9.6.4.0
downloaded MIUI 10 global beta and flashed using MiFlash utility but left the Clear all and Lock selected.
now I've a brick because: at the end when phone rebooted go to locked bootloader.
Trying unlock utility i get the green dot at "verifying device", but stop at unlocking with "current account not bund to this device" and i cannot change dev options in the phone as it's clean and don't have rom.
I'm sadly stuck...
Any suggestion would be really appreciated... ((
There are a lot of threads.
You bricked your Mi 8.
Contact your Seller.
Sorry for you.
Goalach said:
There are a lot of threads.
You bricked your Mi 8.
Contact your Seller.
Sorry for you.
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Seconded, there are many threads all over the place and you should've taken extra precaution. I don't think there is anything you can do. It is bricked and useless. You can tey seeking help from Mi Store.
I unlocked all of them since mi 2... I can say I'm a real jxxk...
still ask to myself whyi've been so light on doing it.
I will post if I will find any solution useful for other...
bye
cinaski33 said:
I unlocked all of them since mi 2... I can say I'm a real jxxk...
still ask to myself whyi've been so light on doing it.
I will post if I will find any solution useful for other...
bye
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It is a very bad policy at least the can build in a warning in Mi flash.
Good luck, I heard s unlock works to get edl.

OEM Unlock

Hello everyone.
Seem like alot of people are getting the wanted OEM unlock now, WHO do we need to get a working PIE ROM going? Are we getting close?
I think a bounty needs to be started in order to get a Good recognised ROM created interested. They arent gonna pay for a device that isn't officially released in USA. I'm sure there is 90 people on XDA wanting a custom ROM willing to pay £10 each to a bounty to get a device for a developer.
Indeed now all the bootloader situation is solved it would be great to get some working non EMUI ROM working...
I would certainly contribute to a bounty but maybe better first we are where we are , if there is anyone working on this, or could be potentially interested ... Maybe we could start by renaming this thread to something more informative to see if we can get some interest on this topic?
restevezes said:
Indeed now all the bootloader situation is solved it would be great to get some working non EMUI ROM working...
I would certainly contribute to a bounty but maybe better first we are where we are , if there is anyone working on this, or could be potentially interested ... Maybe we could start by renaming this thread to something more informative to see if we can get some interest on this topic?
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Working on it...
I`m interested
Eur 10 is very justified if we can get a fully functioning non EMUI rom
With treble support and released kernel sources it seems to be very realistic.
The only thing I'm worried about is the camera, but in the P20 Pro forum they already have a port of the original one working on Lineage.
It looks like OEM Unlock could be enabled again in FW 9.0.0.171 according to another xda post I found via Google
When I had the OP5t I was very happy to use the LiquidROM Dabug123, maybe we should look in the same direction for compliling a ROM for the M20P
You still need to pay for a bootloader unlock code currently once you get to .171
Today I will upload my rom based on 182 emui
auras76 said:
Today I will upload my rom based on 182 emui
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:good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
Would love to try the new rom hopefully
I can write your version of rum if we OEM lock , thank you Auras76.
Quick question guys. If I unlock my bootloader and root the phone, can I go back and re-lock it to bring the phone back to its original factory state?
beta199 said:
Quick question guys. If I unlock my bootloader and root the phone, can I go back and re-lock it to bring the phone back to its original factory state?
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I am not 100% sure about the Mate 20 Pro, but I had unlocked my previous Mate 10 Pro (with official unlock code from Huawei, and adb) and months later I easily re-locked it back, using the same code.
Forgive my ignorance but can i Flash a custom rom without unlocking the bootloader? If not is my only option to pay FunkHuwaei for a code?
no you can't and yes it is
Hello everyone, still on 153 here in Denmark on 3, should we reach out for other ROM maintainer for guides? Do any other than EMUI people and FH Guys "helping" us?
restevezes said:
Indeed now all the bootloader situation is solved it would be great to get some working non EMUI ROM working...
I would certainly contribute to a bounty but maybe better first we are where we are , if there is anyone working on this, or could be potentially interested ... Maybe we could start by renaming this thread to something more informative to see if we can get some interest on this topic?
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how eactly it was resolved?

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