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Thought it might be useful for us mobile gamers to post the sort of performance we get on the Nexus 4. Might even make a few of you eager beavers even more excited about getting a Nexus 4 if you haven't already.
Don't know the difference between 30fps and 60fps? Lucky.. try and keep it that way if you can help it.
In short - 60fps is the most ideal framerate; the most lacking in "lag". 30fps is also an ideal framerate, but it isn't as smooth as the former (alot of people don't notice the difference). Most console games run at 30fps, for reference.
So far, the Nexus 4 is capable of playing ALL Android games smoothly, with exception to those that are (temporarily) incompatible with 4.2
Frustrated with the heat & throttling the phone endures when playing some big games?
Try Matr1x Kernel to minimise heat with a small undervolt, and get more performance from a GPU overclock
After some testing, here's a little idea of how some games run on the device. I also briefly tested a few with different processor speeds too so I'll note down my findings there too.
*if you haven't played with your CPU frequencies then don't worry about my babbling about CPU speeds - the game will run fine if stated so and won't change if you haven't messed about with processor power saving*
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3D games:
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Max Payne Mobile - 60fps:
Seems to be a trusty 60fps on highest settings; brilliant graphics for a phone. I don't recall it ever slowing in performance at all on Roscoe Street station (first level after the prelude) or the tutorial level. Runs and looks much better than GTA3.
Minecraft Pocket Edition - 60fps:
60fps solid on Fancy graphics; doesn't seem to heat up the phone too much either which implies it isn't too demanding and thus should stretch the battery a bit longer. I could be wrong in that assumption, though.
Grand Theft Auto 3 - 25-30fps:
Somewhat disappointing performance. Runs acceptably smooth on default graphics settings (medium everything) at around 30fps, though with some drops in framerate. Also heats up the phone considerably, so expect throttling after 10 minutes. On highest possible graphics settings it stutters quite alot; I'd estimate it hovers around 15-25fps but it's really not pleasant.
Bus Parking 3D - 60fps:
Smooth as can be.
Temple Run - 60fps:
Yep, smooth and responsive as can be again. Still playable down to around CPU @584mhz, but will introduce a bit of stuttering ofc.
GnarBike Trials (free and pro) - 60fps:
Solid 60fps, but will still hiccup a tiny bit when a large number of explosion barrels are set off. You can disable these in the options if it really bothers you.
X-Plane - 60fps:
You guessed it - completely flawless performance again.
Dead Trigger - 30fps:
Capped at a solid 30fps if I remember right. Never drops below this on max settings; completely smooth.
Contract Killer 2 - 50-60fps:
Seemed more than playable. Didn't have it installed for long though so that's all I can say; around 50-60fps if memory serves me right.
Survivalcraft Demo - 50-60fps:
Was a little bit stuttery on highest settings, but only when walking around. This was probably just because the map was still generating around me as I explored, so should be nothing to worry about.
Asphalt 7: Heat - 30fps:
Slight stutter in cutscenes at the start of each race, but it looks like this game is capped at 30fps (difficult to be sure but it seems that way by my judgement). Stays completely smooth at that framerate throughout the game though.
Riptide: GP - 60fps:
Solid 60fps, very smooth and very pleasing graphics.
Chaos Rings - 30fps
d u o XIV: "I just checked Chaos Rings on my N4 right now. Works like a charm. Just to be clear, I started up the game, danced around the menus for a bit, ran around as the main character, and fought in one battle. It all worked flawlessly, and it all seemed to work at 30FPS."
Final Fantasy III - 60 fps
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Chrono Trigger - smooth as butter
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Theme Park - 60fps
Trial Xtreme 2 - 60fps
Need for Speed Most Wanted - smooth:
Need to test again, the consensus is that it does run smoothly.
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2D (pretty much all run flawlessly):
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Gameboid Emulator - 60fps:
Runs Pokemon Emerald and Fire Red as if you were playing it on a real GBA. No frame skipping whatsoever at a lovely 60fps.
GBCoid Emulator - 30fps?:
Runs games as they were intended. Not sure if the older Gameboy games ran at 60fps, it looks more like 30fps. Still, that's how it's meant to perform so no problems here.
Hill Climb Racing - 60fps:
Completely smooth at all times. No change in performance whatsoever, even on lowest 384mhz power saver CPU setting.
Osmos HD - 60fps:
Great looking 2D game and runs at a solid 60fps. No problems with lag here as you'd expect.
Doodle Jump - 60fps:
Smooth as butter. Clocking the CPU below 584mhz will cause a little stutter every now and then but still playable.
Bad Piggies HD - 60fps:
I noticed an occasional stutter here and there but it's nothing to lose hair about, it seemed to only happen at the start or end of each level. Otherwise, completely smooth.
Cut The Rope - 60fps
Angry Birds - 60fps
ChuChu Rocket - 60fps
[I think it'd be a challenge to find a 2D game that does lag on this phone to be honest, so i'll leave it at that]
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If you guys have any requests for games to test then I'd be happy to give it a go for you, provided I can acquire them. Feel free to share your experiences with any games here as well.
Cool man. This is the first device with which I've felt confident to pay for games. I hope GTA Vice City is better than GTA 3. Also I hope crazy coaster comes to Android:
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/coaster-crazy/id561451269?mt=8
Can You try Wild Blood and NFS Most Wanted?
What about need for speed most wanted?
I tried playing Max Payne, my phone got hot as hell.
Does your phone gets hot too when you play?
I heard and read that the specs of Nexus 4 can handle xbox 360 level gameplay/graphics. I wonder when hardware will be utilized to max i cant wait to shift from xbox to just mobile. Because the CD-ROM system is hell frustrating.
Can you anybody test if Horn works?
How abt asphalt 7 heat? It is extremely laggy on Gnexus..
Unfortunately, Need for Speed: Most Wanted didn't work right. The graphics were glitched up and everything looked black (atleast, when I tested it), so this game may need an update to be playable on the Nexus 4. Whether or not this has been fixed yet needs to be clarified by current owners of the game since I *only just* managed to get a refund in 15 minutes after trying it a few days ago.
I'm downloading all 1.5gb's of Asphalt 7: Heat at the moment so I'll post up when I've finished downloading and testing it in an hour or two. As for Wild Blood and Horn, I'll try them some other time since they're pretty expensive for something I probably won't play.
@AntonJart: Yeah, my phone gets very hot in some games. The phone throttles itself when it gets to around 38C I think, so it shouldn't be anything to worry about. However, you can use CPU apps to underclock the processor and reduce the amount of heat being generated, sometimes with no loss in performance. But that's effort.
Need for speed works for me
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Most wanted works fine for me
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Horn does not work with the Nexus 4 I tried installing it and play on got when I first received the phone
In that case I'll redownload Most Wanted at some point and try it again.
Asphalt 7: Heat - 30fps:
Slight stutter in cutscenes at the start of each race, but it looks like this game is capped at 30fps (difficult to be sure but it seems that way by my judgement). Stays completely smooth at that framerate throughout the game though.
Has anyone tried batman or the latest mass effect?
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I just thought of Rip tide too. Very graphics intensive.
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I made a gaming performance video if anyone is interested - http://youtu.be/Vha62lcGSgs
Games included are
-Nova 3
-NFS:most wanted
-Temple run
-Spider man
-Dead trigger
-GTA
italia0101 said:
I made a gaming performance video if anyone is interested - http://youtu.be/Vha62lcGSgs
Games included are
-Nova 3
-NFS:most wanted
-Temple run
-Spider man
-Dead trigger
-GTA
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Does everyone experiencing overheating? My phone gets hot as hell...
AntonJart said:
Does everyone experiencing overheating? My phone gets hot as hell...
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That doesn't mean its overheating.
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chrisjcks said:
That doesn't mean its overheating.
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To the point that you can cook an egg on it?
Mine gets warm, no where near hot as hell though
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To the point that you can cook an egg on it?
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Then you never owned a one X, early software builds made the phone temp actually too hot to even touch.
But still, it only overheated twice and when running go benchmark constantly.
Later, they fixed the heat dramatically.
But the word 'overheating' is one that gets used incorrectly too much, it probably isnt, its just hot.
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chrisjcks said:
That doesn't mean its overheating.
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Really
even LG OG have same problem : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1995107
One potential issue for long-term use revolves around overheating. I thought it may one specific model, but both units tested had significant drops in benchmark performance after extended use and, more importantly, after getting extremely hot. I cooled the phones down and retested, and after a brief warm-up period they were back to benchmark-breaking numbers. It’s unclear as of yet whether that means thermal throttling is in place or if the phone just cannot dissipate heat well enough for the new CPU and GPU, but one thing is certain: performance drops significantly, from way over competition from phones like the HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S III, to just under them both.
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http://www.gadgetreview.com/2012/10/lg-optimus-g-first-impressions.html
Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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Sounds like the soc clocking down.
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my note 4 is awsome and i dont feel any lag like you do mate
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Hello everyone
After swapping my note 3 with note 4, I was amazed with the snappiness of the Note 4 during general tasks and battery life. However, things aren't that smooth while gaming.. it seems as if after 10 mins of gameplay, graphics stutter and the game starts to lag, even in less graphic intensive games.. is it the same with everyone? What about the Exynos variants? Overall, I would rank the note 4 a solid 8.5/10, deducting 1.5 due to poor graphical performance..
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hi,
Next time you are gaming etc. etc and experience symptoms( as described by you above) check your battery temperature. It could be some sort of "throttling" I have seen quite a few post in forum referring to similar. Read up about Samsung DVFS throttling" when devices gets warm. resulting in games stuttering, lagging etc. etc
good luck
The Exynos performs better while gaming.
I play:
Asphalt Overdrive
Beach Buggy Racing and Blitz
As well as Pinball Pro
Haven't noticed any slowdown or issue with graphics, then again I play for 30mins at most, most times I do a quick 10-15min session and I'm bored.
I played The Room 2 for like 1h+ and while in game pulling down the notification bar lagged as hell...my battery temperature was around 38 while gaming.I have the snapdragon model.
Rayman Fiesta Run makes my Exynos hot and noticable slow down performance. Funny that Nexus 7 2012 runs this game as much as I want without any performance dropdown.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubisoft.rayman.fiestarun
Didn't noticed the same reaction on Riptide GP 2 though.
Snapdragon here, nothing, everything is smooth and fast, i already have 14 hours of gameplay time with Galaxy on FIRE2 HD which is pretty intense, also try Stranger, its the most intense graphical game, and everything on highest the note 4 has lower fps, even then after longer playing everything is okey.
I can second this. Rayman Fiesta starts to lag after a while...very disappointing. SnapDragon model here.
i have exynos and every thing is smooth
I have Canadian SM-N910W8 with SD805 it runs games fast even with power savings on.
It's not hard to understand, snapdragon 800+1080p > snapdragon 805+2k for gaming performance (and almost everything).
I have Note 3 snap800 and Note 4 snap 805... and I can honestly say that note 3 is way better for gaming.
Check some gaming YouTube video, this also happens between Nexus 6 and 5.
That's quite sad because Samsung could have made the Best device ever if It choosed a laser autofocus instead of the UV/HRsensor, and sticked with 1080p+ snap 805 combo... really It's like if our SOC have to push TWO 1080p phones (no kidding... 2k have double pixels).
PPL think that the improved visual quality is given by the improved resolution... that's 100% wrong.... The details are the same (and I see amazingly well at very close distances), the true benefits are given by the damn good color accuracy.
BTW note 3 with leaked Lollipop is waaaaay faster in everything than Note4...
If lollipop doesn't make note 4 way faster I'm going to sell this piece of marketing victim and stick with the Note 3.
i using note 3 snap with lollipop and note 4 H with exynos
note gaming performance very very better !
i dont know what note 4 snap on gaming and fps on heavy game !
but exynos version note 4 is better on gaming and power on 2k resolution
im happy for this buying !
note 3 just snap
note 4 just exynos
sometimes its not about the phone, but lazy developers..
as we know rayman is developed by ubisoft and everyone in gaming world knows how terrible that company is
Gamebench v1.3 analysis of Asphalt 8 game play - Device: Note 4 Exynos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58709458&postcount=2020
To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
gabrielgon said:
To the people talking about Rayman Fiesta, on my Exynos Note 4 it goes into slow motion if under 60fps, and I'm not talking about skipping frames, I'm talking about slow motion, when it gets close to 40 fps the game is very sloooow. I had to run it in 720p to keep it at 60fps all the time so it wouldn't slow down.
What I mean by this is, at least for me, the game runs very well even on 1440p, always above 30fps but goes into slow motion instead of skipping frames because the devs are stupid. This also happens to me with Sky Force.
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I've never had sky force slow down...ever. snapdragon 805 running FireKat rom.
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AngryDonutGuy said:
So there are no known permanent solution for the lag and stuttering SD805 aka Note4? Or even a achievement in performance without rooting and devoting our life to adjust and testing?
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Get Samsung's gaming app, Game Tuner, no root required, it will allow you to adjust the resolution, FPS and Brightness of all your games.
My N910F has been running Need For Speed No Limits, Asphalt 8 and GT Racing 2 without a hiccup.
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Hi guys,
Since you already know our device is getting older and now it is being categorized among the lower-end handsets in the android community. Games on android have never been so much better. The visuals on some recent games are breathtaking. I know the device we own is not so much of a gaming one and continuous gaming can adversely eat up the battery life and heat up the phone so please don't bring this up in the discussion which will follow since everyone knows it.
I want this thread to be a gaming thread for AHD. I would like you people to discuss about some latest and graphic intensive games and their performance on our phone. I actually want to determine the real life performance and reach the upper limits of this phone. Stats and benchmarks are just numbers and real life performance can be different. I will comment on the games which I have played on my AHD and share my experience with them. I suggest you do the same. For best performance you should restart the phone before launching the game and never run any apps in the background.
The games which I have tried personally are(I'm listing all the graphics intensive games here not the ones which are like Candy Crush):
- Asphalt 8 ( A great fun racing game with some breathtaking visuals. Overall this game runs fine on AHD. Can sometimes lag a bit when running other apps in the background but overall the experience is lovely)
- Leo's Fortune ( One of the most top rated and liked games on mobile platform. The game runs without a hitch. Can sometimes stutter on levels where there is snowfall or rain but it can be tolerated. I just loved playing it on my phone)
- Dungeon Hunter ( A lovely RPG. It performed okayish when I started playing it but after few levels it just stuttered randomly at some points which I couldn't bear and so didn't play it further on the AHD)
- Plants vs Zombies 1 & 2 ( They both run great. Love playing them every now and then)
- Riptide GP 1 & 2 ( Awesome Jet ski racing games. The visuals are amazing for a game which acquires such a low space on your phone. Try them out)
- GT Racing 2 ( Runs fine for the most part. Performance can be compared to Asphalt 8)
- Real Racing 3 ( I played this game an year ago on my AHD and the performance was not so good. It is such a great game, probably the best racing game on a mobile platform right now but for me it stuttered every now and then due to which I didn't play it further on AHD. I recently asked a member here about RR3 performance in CM11 thread since he mentioned he was playing it. Maybe its gotten better I think I should try it out again)
I've played lots of other games as well but I think these are enough to get the thread going. Please share your experience as well.
- Modern Combat 5 on this phone makes it feel that its getting really old. GFX aren't great (pixilated with textures) and its laggy too, the problem was starting the game or hoping it doesnt crash while doing a very intense level. I ran this game in Blisspop 2.2 (very stable and quick btw) and was surprised that it ran that bad.
- Madden Ultimate Team Mobile (It was a huge problem to start the game even in stock it was a problem it would just freeze and reboot) Cm11 I had better luck it would crash when loading but would load the game when I was lucky enough. Playing the game was okay too, wasn't all impressed or that since its a sports game. I think the problem is when its getting alot of data from the internet for managing the ultimate team, it would just crash there. When using Cm12 and Blisspop (especially Blisspop) It loads more often than not and managing the team would still be an issue, but you must load it one step at a time and not all at once, good enough. Best tip is to restart this device and then just run it, before other apps try to run.
Mincecraft- It just runs the game as if the phone was in the mid range category and im fine with that. Cm12 and Blisspop run it much better thus a slightly better view distance seems fine before the device lags when you put the view distance higher. Cm11 and lower (including stock) just take it down a notch and it runs fine.
I could understand why its now in the lower part of the spectrum and is compared to the moto g of last year and the moto e of this year. (judging from benchmark rankings, just slight differential)
The newer devices will always have some type of edge because it processes things much better due to the chipset architecture, management, optimization etc....
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
Trix123 said:
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
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1. No issues on my s1
2. Can't help with that, don't play games
3. Perfectly normal on an Android device, Android doesn't waste ram, it uses it to make your device faster.
4. You probably need to load the firmware for your region.
5. Same as the s1
Trix123 said:
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
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1. Unfortunately, that is going to be a common thing with Android. Google built scalable interface based off the resolution, which makes apps run on tablets. As opposed to the iPad, there isn't a scalable interface feature but instead it uses upscaling, which makes apps very large and blurry.
In addition to that, Apple forces the default settings of the app store search to only show iPad only apps. This means, if you didn't update your app to support tablet interfaces manually, you wouldn't show up on the default search. This pretty much *forced* all of the developers to update their apps, if they wanted it to be seen of course.
But, since Android scales all of this natively the developers are lazy and simply do not update their apps for tablet interfaces as much as iOS.
2. The Tab S2 is a very powerful tablet, but if you're comparing it to the Ipad Air 2 there's going to be no comparison on how the iPad is much stronger. The processer on the iPad is more powerful than some computers people have at home. However, Android really is not a gaming platform, it is more of a productivity platform. There are way more games on iOS than Android, so if you're into gaming (on mobile) stick with iOS. Both platforms have hardware that is compeltely overkill than what most of the gaming apps actually require.
3. That honestly is no different than the iPAD, the amount of memory free should not be a concern unless apps are closing more often than you would like. Keep in mind that iOS struggles with memory as well, you can browse the internet and minimize the app and come back and it will reload the entire page, losing the spot you were scrolled to. On Android, it actually remembers the last spot you were at, simply because it has better memory management.
Keep in mind tablets are solid state, with incredibly fast read and write speeds. Ram can actually become irrelvant, because it can simply page the memory to the solid state drive and it would be effectively the same speed as real ram; you could actually get away with running with 1GB of ram easily. It's just that there is a limited amount of read and writes to a solid state drive, so they still use dedicated RAM to extend the lifespan since it is cheaper than solid state drives in general.
4. You can use a VPN to bypass that restriction.
5. Both the Ipad and S2 will got hot if you try to game on it, these devices don't even have fans in them so I don't know what you are expecting.
With that being said, I much prefer Android over IOS. When I use my iPAD, I've pretty much given up searching for an app because it simply did not exist with such restricted permissions on the iOS platform. With Android, I can customize my tablet to my liking, and I really like the keyboard support on it; it is much better than Apple in that regard.
I own both tablets and I use the Android far more, both have their cons and advantages. But for me, I don't like mobile games, I find them too simple. Thats why I love Android because I can emulate all consoles up to PSP/DS ERA.
Brittany_Menton said:
Keep in mind tablets are solid state, with incredibly fast read and write speeds. Ram can actually become irrelvant, because it can simply page the memory to the solid state drive and it would be effectively the same speed as real ram; you could actually get away with running with 1GB of ram easily. It's just that there is a limited amount of read and writes to a solid state drive, so they still use dedicated RAM to extend the lifespan since it is cheaper than solid state drives in general.
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The read/write speeds of ss flash memory is nowhere near as fast as ram.
The Tab s and s2 both have very fast ram.
If manufacturers relied on flash memory for caching and system read/writes with today's fast cpu's the system would bottle neck and crawl.
Fast cpu's need much faster memory to keep up and run smoothly.
Run some benchmarks and you will see the difference.
ashyx said:
The read/write speeds of ss flash memory is nowhere near as fast as ram.
The Tab s and s2 both have very fast ram.
If manufacturers relied on flash memory for caching and system read/writes with today's fast cpu's the system would bottle neck and crawl.
Fast cpu's need much faster memory to keep up and run smoothly.
Run some benchmarks and you will see the difference.
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Yes, there is no question that RAM is much faster, but if you're comparing it to normal usage most people wouldn't see the difference. The Surface Pro 3 64GB edition runs off 2GB of RAM and constantly runs at 90% peak memory and ironically performs just as fast as the 4GB version simply because the solid state has such a high read and write speed.
To a certain extent, all tablets page to the harddrive. As far as I know, there aren't many flagship android models that feature like huge amounts of super speed ram.
When you're comparing it to "much faster", say if you are travelling 500mph and you could go 1200mph, but you already get to your destination in less than a second so for the average user, they probably wouldn't even notice the difference.
I suggest you do more research on it.
ashyx said:
I suggest you do more research on it.
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The average user is not going to notice their device is faster if the device is perfectly capable of loading basic tasks such as websites at reasonable speeds.
Trix123 said:
Hello,
I got the Tab S2 8 inch or WiFi only model - SM-T710 on launch day.
I was really excited for this since I was upgrading from an iPad 4, which felt slow.
However, I was disappointed with many things :
1. Most Apps are not tablet optimized.
2. Asphalt 8 tends to lag, although I never noticed this with my iPad.
3. Only 1GB of the 3GB RAM seems to be available most of the time.
4. The play store won't let me access the US play store from outside the US.
5. Part of the Tablet feels hot after light usage.
Can rooting my device help with the above mentioned problems?
How can I fix these problems? Normally I would have done these myself but since I'm completely new to Android I wanted to ask. I've been using iOS since 5 years and I've never had any problems like these. I'm also a fan of iOS jailbreak, tweaks, etc..
One more doubt : Is there a chance that the Tab S2 will get the Android M update?
Thanks,
Trix
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1) Yup that is android sadly there. Though more are coming out with tablet versions of the software... FINALLY!
2) I haven't noticed that myself on the device as I do play that game as well
3) As long as it free's it up, there is no issues with having ram used. It will dump memory as needed if apps require more. Typically most apps don't require that much ram so no issues.
4) Thats just a country/region issue with the device ID. If rooted you can fix it at least. I travel and when outside the US the store is still US to me.
5) Most devices are like this. Gaming will make it hotter as well, but that goes for Android to Apple as well. Now, this device is cooler than previous ones I've had under heavy gaming and light usage gets a little warm.
As for the new OS, we can assume so, but since its a little ways off it might take time still for it to "Officially" come to the tablets.
I just bought mine yesterday and one feature under the settings was missing... there's no user under the device the options only are:
-sounds and notif
-display
-motion and gestures
-applications
there is no user. also in the notification panel there is no manage user.. can somebody help me plsss.. thanks in advance!
Tab S2 problem
Hey guys, hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. Looks like i got screwed with my Tab S2. I bought a 9.7" cellular version from someone on Kijiji (Equivalent to Craigslist in Canada) and it was working just fine. I installed some apps and was just playing around with it. About two days later it started freezing and restarting when i would play a game or watch a video. Since then it has gotten progressively worse. I boot it up and 30 seconds to a minute later it turns off on its own. I thought it may be a software issue so i did a hard reset but the problem still persists. I took it into a Samsung repair center and they said that it is a pre-production model (IMEI is 00000000000000) and they cannot help. Any ideas what i can do to repair it. I just hate the idea of having a $400 paper weight.
egogz said:
Hey guys, hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. Looks like i got screwed with my Tab S2. I bought a 9.7" cellular version from someone on Kijiji (Equivalent to Craigslist in Canada) and it was working just fine. I installed some apps and was just playing around with it. About two days later it started freezing and restarting when i would play a game or watch a video. Since then it has gotten progressively worse. I boot it up and 30 seconds to a minute later it turns off on its own. I thought it may be a software issue so i did a hard reset but the problem still persists. I took it into a Samsung repair center and they said that it is a pre-production model (IMEI is 00000000000000) and they cannot help. Any ideas what i can do to repair it. I just hate the idea of having a $400 paper weight.[/QUOTE
Hi did you buy it brand new (in a sealed box)? Maybe i got a solution for you
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Anyone experienced these probs?
Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 Problems/Issues
Model#: SM-T815Y
Android Version: 5.0.2 (latest)
1. random hanging 3x-10x/day depends on usage.
problem: hanging that leads to black display screen
solution: soft reset -> press the power button+volume down for atleast 10secs
or until boot up screen shows up.
1a. random hanging usually happens
-when downloading or opening something in the Playstore.
-exploring the settings of the gadget.
NOTE: I noticed that it happens frequently when clicking/using apps
that is related to its Internal Memory.(eg. problem#2)
2. Calculating the Size of the Applications
problem 1: it keeps saying computing even after 30mins of leaving the screen.
solution: unmount sd card>remove sd card>insert sd card.
problem 2: can't clear cache of an application.
solution: need to restart the gadget for it to take effect.
3. Auto Restart then it didn't boot up properly. It only stayed in Samsung Screen.
CONCLUSION: it's not normal to have these kind of problems 3gb of RAM,32gb of internal memory, up to date updates.
: very few widgets are activated, very few downloaded apps installed.
: strongly convinced that the cause of problem is its hardware specifically its internal memory.
Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
Ray Adams said:
And in addition (don't want to open another thread) it seems that S8 has more aggressive memory settings because it unloads apps from memory over time. Which never happened on S7. S8 has more memory and I think it should keep more opened apps, not reloading them. And yes, settings in developer section (do not keep activities) is not enabled
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This has to do to android 12, s7 was only on android 11, but also is on 12 now. So then it automatically puts apps into deep sleep. You can remove that under battery settings area and remove apps from deep sleep mode.
About lagging it might be new game mode from samsung since apparently samsung did on purpose limit hardware but added a settings into app that let's you gain more performance in games. Should be in game engine or w.e name is and then settings and then Labs and enable experimental feature there that should boost performance and stop limit the hardware for game.
When I replaces S7 it was already on Android 12 but I never observed such behavior. Anyway, I have put game into never sleep list. As about lags, unfortunately I found no options for that
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Hello
I have upgraded my Tab S7 to Tab S8. And I have expected new device be much faster and smoother, but what I found that games are really lagging! It was perfectly smooth on S7 but not on S8. Game mode does not help much. I do not play a log of games on this tablet as I used it mostly for developement, but I do play Harry Potter Puzzle and Spells and this game lags pretty bad on S8.
What can be done to fix it or should I wait for Samsung to release update? I do know about Samsung's throttling on S8 devices but I never expect it to be that bad.
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I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
Edit: Just fixing typos.
SavXL said:
I was noticing this particular with emulation since I don't play many native android games. When playing Sonic Colors at native res on my Tab S7+, it would almost never go below 30fps in level, and almost never below 60fps in the hub and menus. However, when I tried doing the same on the S8+, and I had a bunch of stuttering and performance issues no matter what version of dolphin I used. There was a workaround to this (at least for me). These issues only happened when I restored my data to my new S8+ with Smart Switch, but when I just put all my data and stuff on there manually, the issues seemingly stopped happening. The only game I throttle in is Fortnite, which didn't have the 90fps option even though the S7+ did. The game still didn't feel much different before and after the throttle, still pretty consistent framerates overall.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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Did you used cloud backup or restored through cable or it's the same thing? I have similar problem, but with benchmark results. My device can't get even average model score in 3DMark (about 2 to 8%). Geekbench scores are worse than snapdragon 865 devices. I don't know what's going on. I already tried to reflash stock rom with odin, but that didn't help. Hopefully not using cloud backup will help.
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I initially restored with a cable, but once I started getting shawty performance, I made a backup on my sd card and restored it from there with Smart Switch. I never used cloud backup since that takes a lot of time for me. After getting suboptimal results with both, I just bit the bullet and slowly started adding everything and getting it to how it was on my old devices. Only then did I get getting substatiall better results. Now I can run a lot of Wii/GC/3DS/PS2 games at 1.5x, 2x, and sometimes even 3x without getting throttled. Not sure why using smart switch tanked my performance, but all I know is that it's not tanking now.
Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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Thats interesting. Because I also moved data using cable. I do not know how good is cloud since I never did it before (only on Apple devices).
I might try to fully format tablet and test it again.
Will provide more information later
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I tried formatting few days ago, and that didn't help. At least for me this problem is not related to Smart Switch. Do you also have bad benchmark scores? I understand that benchmarks are not very good indicator of performance (especially due to GOS), but I expect to have at least average SD8gen1 performance, not the level of SD855.
Did reset to factory settings. It is much better at least for now. Benchmark - tested only Geekbench 5. Result the same
Hi.. I'm experiencing the same problem here.. any updates regarding this problem? My geekbench score can't even surpass an exynos 2100.. it only achieve around 700ish on single core.. the first time I notice this is when I tried playing granturismo with aethersx2.. and it can't even handle the 1x reso.. hhhh.. really frustrated here.. please kindly share any clues regarding this topic thanks in advance.. sorry not a native English speaker
I had same problem, but, i solved using this:
ADB AppControl 1.7.5
(disable all game service (i'm not remember how many)). For me it's work great
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i disabled bixdy and others apps too
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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The issue mainly lies in the SOC.
Even though, SD8 Gen 1 has a much higher peak performance, especially in GPU, it can't sustain that performance due to excesive power consumption which results in thermal throttling.
GOS is another thing that affects the whole experience, it's limiting the performance of the device.
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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Yeah.. I think this is mainly what cause the problem.. The 8gen1 itself..
a quick update regarding this from me..
I've done some re-test in benchmark and real game perfomance but this time im doing it in a well conditioned (cooled) room..
previously I was doing the test and gaming and in a room without any Air Conditioner and I lived in a tropical country which is really hot and humid...
the benchmark results (3d wildlife) came out Nice in a well cooled room, It scores what most of Tab S8 would score and the real life perfomance (PS2 emulator) is also improved..
it manages to handle GranTurismo 4 in aethersx2 with 3x reso on safe setting quite well..
the CPU temperature is well managed in around 35'ish Celcius compared to 45'ish when not using any air conditioner...
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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CPU temperature 35 Celsius degrees? Are you talking about an ABSOLUTE idle? Because even if you would put a bag of ice on the TAB it wouldn't sit that low under usage. Even small loads will put the CPU around 50-60 Celsius degrees. Under heavy load up to 85-90 till the thermal throttle hits in.
Also, that ONE wildlife mark test doesn't do much. The idea is stability, better known as SUSTAINED performance, and that's where SD8 Gen 1 ****s itself. Try running a Wildlife standard stress test (20-minute loop) and post the screenshot, you'll see what I mean.
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I only saw the perf-z indicator from samsung though.. so yeah.. i know i might just straight up wrong about this I just straight saying what I saw.. and honestly I'm not an expert in this.. just a mere consumer..
Yeah I got you.. it goes downhill even after the first one.. what I'm trying to say was that I never reach that score before in warm room so yeah it's mainly the CPU problem..
What mainly being my concern before was I'm scared that I got scammed with a fake/unoriginal/refurbished tab s8.....
Harry Potter plays fluently on Tab S8 Plus here.
I have sent my S8 to my mom and bought S8 plus. Did not restore, set it up from scratch. No lagging in games, including HP. So, it could be related to thermal soliton in S8 plus as it is bigger
Bege21 said:
First.. thank you for the answer! Might try it out later..
So it's like disabling the "GOS" right? Is it different from the "alternate game performance" option in game booster? They said it's the "official" way to disable the GOS.. but yeah I didn't find any difference after enabling that option though... Hmm..
Hmm...also.. What makes me wonder is.. I saw some reviewers review this device without any tweaking needed and they could achieve a 8gen1'ish results in benchmarks.. and also if you know ETA prime on YouTube.. he reviewed a tab s8 ultra and is able to run a granturismo 4 with aethersx2 (ps2 emulator) in 3x reso in default settings with no problems... I know it's a different device but it's supposed to have a same Chip right?
All of this things makes me frustrated because it was not what i expected from a 8gen1 device.. moreover I saw a sd870 device could run the granturismo 4 in the same settings with no problems.. it really broke my heart..
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Yes you have to run 4 adb Commands that also disables game booster and game launcher then GOS will stay disabled even after restart. I've done this and turn ram plus off. I also disabled or put into deep sleep all of the bs apps. I also went to advance features and turned off all of everything causes I don't use the s-pen so no need for air actions and stuff to be on. If you want the ADB commands let me know.