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Anyone know of a good quality usb charging cable that will charge the phone at full power, isn't super expensive, and is longer than the stock one? The one that comes with this phone is just too short for me. I even tried my galaxy nexus usb cable, but it the phone says it is charging at a slower rate.
I'm using my Charge's cable with the LG adapter and the charging is quick as heck. BTW, I went from the Charge to GNex to G2 as well lol. Loved each upgrade!!
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I'm using my Charge's cable with the LG adapter and the charging is quick as heck. BTW, I went from the Charge to GNex to G2 as well lol. Loved each upgrade!!
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I use these:
http://www.amazon.com/Palm-3403WW-M...DRCHT3E/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1380823539&sr
Quality is awesome and they are about 1.5m long. Stable for data and charging. :good:
I'm just using a cheap USB extension cable inbetween the LG charger and stock usb cable. Works fine, charges fast, doesn't give the "slow charge" notification.
I agree with the USB extension cable. I really dislike the durablity of micro USB, so I would rather use the stock cable with an extension than a cheaper built long cable.
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Anyone know of a good quality usb charging cable that will charge the phone at full power, isn't super expensive, and is longer than the stock one? The one that comes with this phone is just too short for me. I even tried my galaxy nexus usb cable, but it the phone says it is charging at a slower rate.
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I believe you need a usb 3.0 cable to not get the slow charge notification.
Doesn't work
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I use these:
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Quality is awesome and they are about 1.5m long. Stable for data and charging. :good:
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I have an HP Touchpad, and it comes with a cable that looks identical to this. When I try to charge my phone with it, I get the "not compatible" message and charging is disabled to prevent damage... The cable may be different on the inside, but I would think the tablet cable would allow faster charging than the phone.
Alright... so far I have come across 3 different charging scenarios.
Charging with fading red LED - fast charge
Charging with white LED - medium charge
Charging with white LED + message "slow charge" - slow charge
I hope my interpretation is correct. So far I'm using my 2A original Asus charger from transformer prime and USB2.0 Palm-pre cable (which I posted above) and I'm getting fast charge (red glows, super speed). Now I only have this setup at work.. so I'm bearing with medium charge at home.
Trying not to use the original charger/cable, so I can have high resell value
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I believe you need a usb 3.0 cable to not get the slow charge notification.
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I would disagree with this.
USB3.0 cable have extra pins and connector is bigger (Note3 has this). The cables I have are USB2 and I don't see this message.
MasK said:
Alright... so far I have come across 3 different charging scenarios.
Charging with fading red LED - fast charge
Charging with white LED - medium charge
Charging with white LED + message "slow charge" - slow charge
I hope my interpretation is correct. So far I'm using my 2A original Asus charger from transformer prime and USB2.0 Palm-pre cable (which I posted above) and I'm getting fast charge (red glows, super speed). Now I only have this setup at work.. so I'm bearing with medium charge at home.
Trying not to use the original charger/cable, so I can have high resell value
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I would disagree with this.
USB3.0 cable have extra pins and connector is bigger (Note3 has this). The cables I have are USB2 and I don't see this message.
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Yeah seems like usb 3.0 cables have an extra connector that is not compatible with the G2. Can you possibly confirm that the cable you recommend will charge at full speed with the OEM LG charger? I'm wondering if it's either the charger itself that needs a certain cable or if there is something specific to the cable itself like the gauge of wire that is affecting charging speed.
I think you have to use the charger> 1.5A with good cable
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Yeah seems like usb 3.0 cables have an extra connector that is not compatible with the G2. Can you possibly confirm that the cable you recommend will charge at full speed with the OEM LG charger? I'm wondering if it's either the charger itself that needs a certain cable or if there is something specific to the cable itself like the gauge of wire that is affecting charging speed.
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Alright.. one thing I can confirm is that the charging speed depends on the charger.. not the cable.
I tried my fave Palm pre cable which I recommend into a slow charger and the message "slow charging" did come up.
And I also used this cable to the port that gives me medium speed.. and true enough, it was charging with white light, without the "slow charging" message. It is clearly following the charger, not the cable.
Electrically I don't see how cable should affect this. I know Samsung devices charges faster if the data+ and data- pins are shorted. Not sure about these LG ones. However, charging happens simply on the +/-5V lines.. it can't get any more complex than this.
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I just tested my McKal 2.1A charger, S3 original charger 1A and HTC original 1A charger.
All of these did not say slow charging, but they didn't have the glowing red LED (fast charging) either.
I guess I'm lucky I have my Asus transformer prime charger to get fast charging..
I know this Asus charger is a USB3 one, BUT only Asus propriety cable for the Prime tablet uses the USB3 pins. I'm sure that my cable is not a USB3 one.
I would like to know specifically a charger I can buy on Amazon prime preferably, that will fast charge... (car charger) I don't want to guess... so who has one that works- that you own and use and KNOW works.
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Alright.. one thing I can confirm is that the charging speed depends on the charger.. not the cable.
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I hate to argue with you, but that's not what I am seeing here.
Using the LG charger and cable, I get fast charge.
Using the LG charger and any other cable, it immediately gives me slow charge. I've tried about five different USB cables. A BlackBerry branded one, a Duracell one, the white Amazon Kindle one, an old HTC one, and my old GNex cable. The only one that gives me fast charge is the LG supplied cable.
I bought a USB power dongle that has selectable modes of operation (Samsung charge, Apple charge, and "data pass-through") and will deliver 2.1 amps from a standard USB port. It's Chinese made so I know there might be danger of blowing the power on a USB port, but it's what I've got to test with. I can't get this phone to fast charge in any mode at all. With the GNex, it charges fast. With my iPad, no sweat.
I can confirm this. Charging speed definitely depends on the cable. Here it's the same as with you - the only cable that delivers full charging speed (approx. 1600mAh according to BMW) is the supplied LG cable. The worst one (100mAh) is an old Kindle cable. All other cables I have are somewhere between that. None is "faster" than 1000mAh. The main visible difference between the LG cable and the other cables is the thickness. The LG cable is the most thickest. From my other cables, the ones that reaches approx. 1000mAh are also quite thick (but not as thick as the LG cable).
Then I received my free LG PD233 Photo Printer today (amazon preorder offering). It comes with a 1200mAh charger (the G2's charger has 1800mAh) and a very similar looking cable. It's a bit shorter and white. With this cable I have the same full charging performance.
So obviously LG spend some more cents on better-quality cables. However, given that there are plenty of high-power wall and car chargers (with 2000mAh and up) available on the market, one should assume that there should also be cables available that can be used with this chargers. I just didn't managed to find one yet.
I use a USB extension cable to charge the phone battery takes 5 hours, while normal rechargeable battery takes only 2 hours
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I can confirm this. Charging speed definitely depends on the cable. Here it's the same as with you - the only cable that delivers full charging speed (approx. 1600mAh according to BMW) is the supplied LG cable. The worst one (100mAh) is an old Kindle cable. All other cables I have are somewhere between that. None is "faster" than 1000mAh. The main visible difference between the LG cable and the other cables is the thickness. The LG cable is the most thickest. From my other cables, the ones that reaches approx. 1000mAh are also quite thick (but not as thick as the LG cable).
Then I received my free LG PD233 Photo Printer today (amazon preorder offering). It comes with a 1200mAh charger (the G2's charger has 1800mAh) and a very similar looking cable. It's a bit shorter and white. With this cable I have the same full charging performance.
So obviously LG spend some more cents on better-quality cables. However, given that there are plenty of high-power wall and car chargers (with 2000mAh and up) available on the market, one should assume that there should also be cables available that can be used with this chargers. I just didn't managed to find one yet.
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I completely agree, I've also noticed is that the LG supplied cable is unusually thick gauge wire compared to other micro usb cables. It's 20 gauge wiring and fairly short, which means that it has extremely low resistance to current. I mean unusual, in that I literally cannot find any micro usb cables that thick for sale and I have been searching online. Part of the problem is that cables are usually not listed online in terms of the gauge of wire, which combines with the fact that micro usb cables that thick aren't common, yet. That's probably the reason that no cables that people are trying are working with the stock lg charger at full charge.
If anyone can find or knows where to buy 20 AWG micro usb cables or thicker, please post the source here.
The cable for the G2 is a lower gauge because of the higher amperage charge rate. Which is why the GNex (what i upgraded from too) cable charges slower, its only guaged to be sufficient enough to carry a .15A charge rate. The G2 charge rate is .3A, hence the reason why they used a larger cable.
So, the G2 can recognize the resistance and slow down charging on lower-gauge cables it seems? How very UA-approved of them...
Now, the hunt is on to find heavy gauge micro USB cable...
Perhaps this?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=8639&seq=1&format=2
I've been looking for a 24/20 AWG micro USB cable for a while now. I haven't been able to find one.
Interesting find you guys..
Guess I was wrong after all. Also something to note is that with my fast charging cable directly connected to the phone, all is well. When I run it through my Samsung S4 charging dock, it slows down.
Perhaps it's time to email LG about this? Would be a valuable question..
Also, I still stand by the fact that my palm-Pre cable is capable of fast charging, at least with my Asus transformer prime charger. I haven't even started using the original charger/cable..
This is the exact package which I ordered:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002ITKQKU/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So yesterday I bought a 2.0 charger off of amazon with the choe brand name. According to the ad it works with nearly every android phone, including the HTC one m8. For the past year I have been using a charger from my last phone which was a crappy flip phone and thought nothing of it, but I am wondering does this charger truly work?? According to app "Ampere" it is much slower. Also, I've read reports about phones heating up and that's what mine did last night, is that normal? How long should it take for me to full charge my HTC one m8?
It will heat up, that is normal. It'll use most of its 2.4A between 20 and 70% and then slow down. Your total charge time shouldn't take more than 1 hour, and make sure you're using the supplied cable.
Thanks for the response! So if it doesn't charge 1 to 100 in 1 hour than is something wrong? Also will a charger like this have any effect on how long my battery lasts? My last charger for whatever reason was for my last flip phone believe it or not, I never bought a new one.
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Thanks for the response! So if it doesn't charge 1 to 100 in 1 hour than is something wrong? Also will a charger like this have any effect on how long my battery lasts? My last charger for whatever reason was for my last flip phone believe it or not, I never bought a new one.
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no I wouldn't say that.
my 2.0 QC will get it done in about 1-2 hours compared to the 3-5 or so it took with stock charger.
0-100% will take more than an hour. I've timed mine a few times from 0-100%, not using the phone at all and in airplane mode waking it up every 5 minutes to check percentage, volts, and charge rate using Gsam batt monitor.
Comparing the two chargers (OEM HTC QC 2.0, and original HTC charger- which I believe is QC 1.0) the QC 2.0 is definitely faster. Even though there is nothing on the phone telling you it is using the higher wattage charging mode, it is. So, 0 to 100% using HTC's QC2, usually takes around 1:20 minutes if I remember right. As in the other post, it starts out rather slow to around 20%, then kicks in to high gear until around 80%, then slows back down all the way to 100% so as to not overcharge the battery and harm it. It really is amazing the speed that it charges at. It does get rather warm, which is normal, but shouldn't hurt the phone.
Now, completely draining and recharging these batteries frequently is not good for them and will decrease the useful life sooner. Keeping it somewhere around 80 % is ideal but realistically not practical and the manufacturers know that. That's why they build in overcharge circuitry protection so leaving the charger on all the time "shouldn't" harm the battery. Draining it down to zero and doing a full recharge cycle on it frequently WILL decrease the lifespan. The batterie's useful life is basically determined by a finite number of charge cycles.
There's tons of info on charging and batteries out there if you are looking for more reading too.
Anyone heard of the brand Auzen? It's popping up alot on aliexpress and around asian market. Not too much reviews yet on that brand.
don't play with quick chargers .I bloated my m8 batt once trying it .it charge at 2.4a .our device max is 1.5a.
If you insist using it then don't full charge with it n monitor closely .
That's impressive, I use a QC2.0 car charger, I use a variety of wall chargers that run from 1.0A to 2.3A at 5V.
So far, my battery is still very happy.
Sounds like you got a cheap knock off charger or your battery/charging circuitry was damaged/faulty and/or your ROM/firmware weren't proper, for that kind of damage to occur.
I don't think Ampere works. I once did a test (last month) and had 6 different USB cables and I wanted to see which was the best, every time I used one I got a different reading, from 200 up to 1600. Even using my Anker Quick Charge 2.0 I only got 400 so it stated.
I have been using Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 and gives pretty decent charge times.
I have a QUICK Changer 2.0. works great.. have some tips...
You know there is some colors on cable conectors ends you have to choose the right one..
- If the cable is not a quality one can result to slow charging.
Black ----- 1.0. most in stock phones
White------ 2.0. the right for fast charging...
The time on reaching 100% on battery,well Quickly charger 2.0 will reach 80% on your battery fast and it will change the next 20% slower...
There is some app in playstore can help can see the amperage live in mA..
Connect your charger to get the battery charging current or disconnect it and get the negative discharging current... and you can see your battery charging current mA is constantly changing because even on charging phone still using current (negative discharging current) and this is always changing.
On my case I see higher mA reading only under really low battery...
I have a problem with my m8 and aukey 2.0 quick charger....
After firmware update to 6.12.xxx.xxx mm , the app ampere tell me max 1600ma before update its tell 2000ma .. Its a bug or a feature of the new firmware base...??? I have cyanogenmod 13
Im using the same aukey 2.0 quick charger. Works perfect.
M8 is 1.5a max .if you use 2.0a logically you're overcharging it. Just wait for it to get bloat n replace the whole bat. worth it ?
Hi, i just wanted to say something. After many bad chargers i bought, i found the Nillkin chargers (2Amps)and Nillkin cables (2.1Amp) the best and best quality. I am always testing with good Usb voltage tester and it can charge up to 1.5 amps max on M8 and on LG G3 1.8 Amps. As long as the charger is 5.0V, amps can variate and it doesnt hurt your battery, it just charges slower or faster. In my case its charging 1% per minute on both phones. It doesn't matter if the cable is black, white, green... cables must be thick, around 18AWG that support high ampers which mean faster charging. thin cables are sh!#. And for car i also found the Scosche dual charger great for every device with Nillkin 30cm cables and Kenu airframe holder.
You can use 2.4A chargers on M8 without problem as it will only receive 1.5amps.
GL
I'm using Anker PowerPort 1+. It's very good and you can use for iPhone iPad & almost Android devices.
I bought it here: http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Samsung-Wireless/dp/B014F3D8FQ
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M8 is 1.5a max .if you use 2.0a logically you're overcharging it.
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That logic is incorrect. The phone will only draw as many amps as its rated for (1.5 amps) regardless of what the charger is rated to supply. Think of the charger amp rating as the "maximum it can supply" instead of "what it will always supply".
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M8 is 1.5a max .if you use 2.0a logically you're overcharging it. Just wait for it to get bloat n replace the whole bat. worth it ?
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Ampere shows max charge rate for me at 2000ma. Where do you get the idea it will overcharge?
I'm getting 5 hrs sot with my nexus 6 almost every time I charge it, but the problem is that it takes almost 3hrs, the charging time was normal i.e. 1.25hrs when I bought the phone and it worked normally for almost 2 months but now for almost a month it's taking 3 hrs to charge, I use turbo charger and my data cable is the original one, if my battery is faulty how can I check it? I don't have any random reboots. My main question is how can I check if my battery is faulty, there's no bulging on the back side
Kennel issue? If you have USB fast charge on try to disable it and see if that works.
I'm running the stock rom, I've tried different custom roms but the issue remains
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I'm running the stock rom, I've tried different custom roms but the issue remains
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Sounds more like a faulty turbo charger to me than a device fault. Based on your SOT and physical normalities, I'm definitely leaning towards the charger. Either contact the original place of purchase, or Motorola support and see if you can get a replacement. That way, you'll know for sure.
Yeah I'm from Pakistan and I bought the device from a local retailer, so no Google or Motorola, therefore can't return or exchange the device or charger, as I mentioned in the op, is there anyway I can check if the battery is faulty? In every battery app the battery health is good and in bootloader battery is ok, does every bootloader shows battery ok? Plus in Ampere my battery voltage never exceeds from 4v while charging and battery charge rate is normal
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Yeah I'm from Pakistan and I bought the device from a local retailer, so no Google or Motorola, therefore can't return or exchange the device or charger, as I mentioned in the op, is there anyway I can check if the battery is faulty? In every battery app the battery health is good and in bootloader battery is ok, does every bootloader shows battery ok? Plus in Ampere my battery voltage never exceeds from 4v while charging and battery charge rate is normal
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If your battery was faulty, you'd most likely see rapid drain or early shutdowns. I still think your charger is at fault. Considering it's far cheaper to replace a charger, I'd start there first.
It's either the charger or the wire.
If the data pins in the charger don't have a good solder joint on them, fast charge doesn't work. The same goes for the wire. If either of the 2 wires for data inside your charge cable are frayed or broken, again, fast charge won't work.
I suggest starting with the wire. Grab a new one. Make sure it is a wire that can transfer data. There are charging wires that are only good for power that cannot transfer data.
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It's either the charger or the wire.
If the data pins in the charger don't have a good solder joint on them, fast charge doesn't work. The same goes for the wire. If either of the 2 wires for data inside your charge cable are frayed or broken, again, fast charge won't work.
I suggest starting with the wire. Grab a new one. Make sure it is a wire that can transfer data. There are charging wires that are only good for power that cannot transfer data.
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Thanks alot for explaining it like that, if you don't mind can you inbox me your number, I'd like to Whatsapp you to get more knowledge about this, should I get my turbo charger repaired or what?
I don't give out personal information on XDA for my own safety. However, please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help.
Curious in any case wouldn't a Samsung 2amp charger be considered as fast as the rapid charger that comes with nexus? After all in all newer high-end charging docks isn't it the amp output that makes it charge faster?
I use my Samsung white 2 amp on all my phones what make a the nexus piece better? ?
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So few days ago got the phone , but always charged it through USB port. Now finally tried turbo charger and it definitely isn't "turbo". I know most of those Turbo claims what I saw were just selling strategy , but I'm pretty sure I'm not even getting 1% - 1 minute. Latest Marshmallow OTA.
So , on a relatively new battery , how fast does your phones charge ? You can write with phone turned off and on..
Also looking at the charger it says for output :
Standard output :5V =1.6A
Turbo output :9v=1.6A
Turbo2 output :12v = 1.2A
This deosn't make any sense to me, while raising volts may solve some power losses through cable , amps are what charges your phone faster or slower , and 1.6A , isn't really a big deal not to mention 1.2A. Reading somewhere that quick charge 2,0 supports up to 3amps draw..
I have One Plus one and it's original charger is 2.1A (quick charge 1.0 ) , with custom kernel bumped charging rate all the way up and good cable I'm seeing about 2Amps of charging in real life , or little more than 1% per minute . I was expecting motorola to charge faster or at least even , even though they are 3100 vs 3900mAh batteries.. Not to mention I can easily mod OnePlus One and get same SOT and battery overall as motorola's, while on motorola I'm stuck with stupid locked bootloader . Original idea was to sell OnePlus One because of Motorola, but I don't know now anymore..
The volts and amps listed on an electrical device are typically its max or rated output, NOT what it "always" delivers. That being said, most power supplies will deliver their rated voltage most of the time, but the current is determined by the charged device (through it's effective resistance)... so as long as you run below the rated current, you'd be fine.
Secondly, from what I'm reading, the OPO doesn't have quick-charge technology (ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...lcomm_quickcharge_20/?st=ix64k1gy&sh=6d7492c9 ) so I'm not sure what you're talking about there. Again, the charger may say 2.1A, but that doesn't mean it's actually delivering that much all the time. I have a relatively old Kindle Fire with a 2.1A charger, but I know it doesn't charge very fast even with that device.
If you want to talk about Volts and Amps, you need to use actual volt/amp meters to see what you're getting.. Note, there is an app for Android (called Ampere) that claims to report amp-rates, but it also has a caveat saying that the current should not be taken as completely accurate, for various reasons.
Lastly, note that QC doesn't actually run when you are at higher charge levels... I think it's above 80% or something? After that level, it returns to "standard charging" mode for this "top-off" phase of the battery charge cycle. So, if you're seeing slow charge rates there, it's to be expected.
The Turbo has a relatively massive battery. Mine takes...somewhere upwards of 3ish hours on turbo charging to replenish.
1 hour 15 minutes
that's what it takes to go from 0 to 100% using Turbo Charger 2.0
Thank you all for answering, this is exactly why I started this thread. Already see here some interesting results!
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The volts and amps listed on an electrical device are typically its max or rated output, NOT what it "always" delivers. That being said, most power supplies will deliver their rated voltage most of the time, but the current is determined by the charged device (through it's effective resistance)... so as long as you run below the rated current, you'd be fine.
Secondly, from what I'm reading, the OPO doesn't have quick-charge technology (ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/co...lcomm_quickcharge_20/?st=ix64k1gy&sh=6d7492c9 ) so I'm not sure what you're talking about there. Again, the charger may say 2.1A, but that doesn't mean it's actually delivering that much all the time. I have a relatively old Kindle Fire with a 2.1A charger, but I know it doesn't charge very fast even with that device.
If you want to talk about Volts and Amps, you need to use actual volt/amp meters to see what you're getting.. Note, there is an app for Android (called Ampere) that claims to report amp-rates, but it also has a caveat saying that the current should not be taken as completely accurate, for various reasons.
Lastly, note that QC doesn't actually run when you are at higher charge levels... I think it's above 80% or something? After that level, it returns to "standard charging" mode for this "top-off" phase of the battery charge cycle. So, if you're seeing slow charge rates there, it's to be expected.
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Thanks! Actually, OnePlus ONE DOES have quick charge 1.0 which is 5v up to 2.1A. Snapdragon 801 supports quick charge 2.0 but OPO didn't implement it with phone. There are billions of topic on this at OPO forum and a lot of people done tests including myself. The problem with OPO is it's very sensitive on cable so it works best with OEM cable and it somehow recognizes it. There is app called OPO charging current so I monitored with it and synapse . Kernel setup hardware to be able to recive very max 2100mA no mather which cable. Stock ONEplus charger. Some cheap cables gave me from 300 - 600 mA max with screen on . I found at home some cable that looked cheap but said charge only, tried and it charged around 1600mA with screen on and around 1800 screen off. Later got Anker 21 AWG and results were even better , aroun 1800-1900mA screen on and close to maximum 2000mA screen off. Phone was charging 1% in less than a minute. Thought turbo can charge at same rate. After all , it's "boosted" lol.
I know it doesn't do quick charge after around 75% , I tried at 30%. Given all that , 1600mA which is maximum I see on the Motorola's charger is not something special if we disregard Voltage..
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The Turbo has a relatively massive battery. Mine takes...somewhere upwards of 3ish hours on turbo charging to replenish.
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1 hour 15 minutes
that's what it takes to go from 0 to 100% using Turbo Charger 2.0
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Again this is very interesting. Already here we see 2 totally different results with one being almost as double fast.. Sparksys , you are on stock charger and stock cable?
Because if you charge from 0-100 in 1h 15min, thats around 3.2Amps charging current , while our buddy Einsteindks here gets around 1.3Amps and max amp I see on "rola's charger is 1.6Amps. I'm confused now.
Also can somebody post picof stock droid turbo USB cable shipped in bundle? I think I don't have stock cable, it says right at the plug phone side "be hello". No other labels or anything..
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Thank you all for answering, this is exactly why I started this thread. Already see here some interesting results!
Thanks! Actually, OnePlus ONE DOES have quick charge 1.0 which is 5v up to 2.1A. Snapdragon 801 supports quick charge 2.0 but OPO didn't implement it with phone. There are billions of topic on this at OPO forum and a lot of people done tests including myself. The problem with OPO is it's very sensitive on cable so it works best with OEM cable and it somehow recognizes it. There is app called OPO charging current so I monitored with it and synapse . Kernel setup hardware to be able to recive very max 2100mA no mather which cable. Stock ONEplus charger. Some cheap cables gave me from 300 - 600 mA max with screen on . I found at home some cable that looked cheap but said charge only, tried and it charged around 1600mA with screen on and around 1800 screen off. Later got Anker 21 AWG and results were even better , aroun 1800-1900mA screen on and close to maximum 2000mA screen off. Phone was charging 1% in less than a minute. Thought turbo can charge at same rate. After all , it's "boosted" lol.
I know it doesn't do quick charge after around 75% , I tried at 30%. Given all that , 1600mA which is maximum I see on the Motorola's charger is not something special if we disregard Voltage..
Again this is very interesting. Already here we see 2 totally different results with one being almost as double fast.. Sparksys , you are on stock charger and stock cable?
Because if you charge from 0-100 in 1h 15min, thats around 3.2Amps charging current , while our buddy Einsteindks here gets around 1.3Amps and max amp I see on "rola's charger is 1.6Amps. I'm confused now.
Also can somebody post picof stock droid turbo USB cable shipped in bundle? I think I don't have stock cable, it says right at the plug phone side "be hello". No other labels or anything..
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I was guess-timating. Been a while since I've done the full recharge.
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I was guess-timating. Been a while since I've done the full recharge.
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According to your guess-timate and max rated power I see on the charger, that seems about right and realistic guess BUT there also isn't anything TURBO about it. I'ts the average charging speed of every device today (1.5A) which doesn't have any kind of quick charge option. Even quick charge 1.0 is faster with 2.1A at 5v . Thats why I opened this topic, I'm confused.
Only voltage is higher on turbo charger than let's say my OPO charger but amps are lower and voltage doesn't have that much of an impact on charging speed, amps do!
When I have my Turbo in my truck at night, and running about a dozen things at once, in addition to all the background stuff, NO 'regular' charger can keep up with the power demand, and the battery undergoes a insanely slow discharge. By itself, the battery lasts 3 or 4 hours, tops. With the turbocharger, the battery charges at a modest rate, maybe 10% per 30 minutes...while under high demand.
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When I have my Turbo in my truck at night, and running about a dozen things at once, in addition to all the background stuff, NO 'regular' charger can keep up with the power demand, and the battery undergoes a insanely slow discharge. By itself, the battery lasts 3 or 4 hours, tops. With the turbocharger, the battery charges at a modest rate, maybe 10% per 30 minutes...while under high demand.
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That seems ok.
I encourage others to post their charging times so we can compare!
Thanks
Since no other turbo users jumped in...
At the time of starting the topic I have disabled some Verizon's bloatware (completely stock, locked turbo). After reflashing completely stock FW , and with untouched software, droid really did charged turbo fast. More than 1% per minute and around 0-60% for 30min just as advertised for quick charge 2.0 . So if anyone was wondering, that should be benchmark.
On the other hand, phone is almost impossible to charge with any other type of "normal" charger..
My Turbo, running stock MM/root/Xposed with a large load of apps, will charge 20-30% per hour on a normal 1A charger, while lying on the desk with the screen off. It charges at a similar rate via Qi wireless charging. This is plenty for daily overnight charging. My usage habits are such that I usually have 20-40% battery left when I get home from work in the evening.
In a different usage case, when I play Ingress (a real battery eater, screen on + 3D animated graphics + GPS + data) the Qi charger in my car holds discharge to about 5-10% per hour.
I've never had a turbo charger to compare, but I've never found the normal charger or Qi charger to be significantly lacking.
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My Turbo, running stock MM/root/Xposed with a large load of apps, will charge 20-30% per hour on a normal 1A charger, while lying on the desk with the screen off. It charges at a similar rate via Qi wireless charging. This is plenty for daily overnight charging. My usage habits are such that I usually have 20-40% battery left when I get home from work in the evening.
In a different usage case, when I play Ingress (a real battery eater, screen on + 3D animated graphics + GPS + data) the Qi charger in my car holds discharge to about 5-10% per hour.
I've never had a turbo charger to compare, but I've never found the normal charger or Qi charger to be significantly lacking.
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Right, I've also used "normal" charger before. Now, I have all QuickCharge plug chargers -- but I still use Qi wireless charging every day, as does my wife.
I also plug in via USB port on my computer and it charges fine.
okay the way the turbo charging works is that it's like a tier system at very very low charge percentages it works the fastest and slows off after about 60 or 70 percent it just charges like a regular charger all the magic happens at the lower charges. another thing is that unless the cable you are using is total garbage it won't matter at all. it is all the phone and the ac adapter that do the work any variations in the cable will be negligible. I am monitoring my battery through the custom kernel (bhb27 and its app) and it says right now at 81% charge on a turbo charging that I am getting +1172.x mA if my battery was lower this value would be much much higher
lastly I recommend only using the turbo charger when you really need power quickly. if you are just plugging in your phone for the night it makes no sense and will actually be bad for your battery health. the faster it charges the more it heats up and heat is not good for the battery health when I plug my phone in at night I use a .5 amp charger and my phone says that it will need like 8 or 9 hours to charge (this may be exsessive but the quick chargers heat up my phone a lot I also use a 1 and 2 amp charger nearby
Hey guys, I plugged a 5v3a usb-c charger into my note 9 and it detects it as fast charging. I know a bit about volts and amps and how they work, but in this case what would charge the note 9 faster? The included qc2.0 charger going at 9v or the usb-c charger at 5 volts 3 amps?
Would the 5v3a be better anyway due to less heat generation? Or does the bundled Samsung charger negotiate better with the note 9 chipset and provide a faster charge?
Short answer 9v 1.7a. The device will only allow that as the max input.
So why does it detect a 5v3a as fast charging?
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So why does it detect a 5v3a as fast charging?
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If I am not mistaken a charger capable of supplying 5v at 2A or above will be fast, when compared to 5V 500mA from a normal USB port
Quick chargers use higher voltages which can provide more charging power than the 7.5W typically provided by 5V 2A.
QC 2.0 can provide up to 36W over micro USB C
I happen to have two Note 9s. I'll run them both down this weekend to say 40%. Then I'll charge them up. One with the 5V 3A Pixel charger, and the other with the Samsung charger. Which by the way, the included Samsung charger is rated 9V 1.7A OR 5V 2A. So I guess it switches voltage based on what the phone accepts.
If I remember right, my Pixel charger always seemed to be the faster of the two options, but I'll test it side by side this weekend.
I had read in some places that 5v3a will charge faster since it's lower volts so less heat generation and less resistance. This will be interesting to see
So I tested two Note 9s side by side. One is a 128GB T-Mo model and the other is a 512GB ATT model. I discharged them both to 41% and plugged them in side by side and monitored it using AccuBattery.
I used the stock Samsung 9v 1.7a charger and the stock Pixel 5v 3a charger.
The results? They charge at the same speed. Or at least very close. Within 200ma of each other.
I let them charge for a few seconds screen on, and at first they were both charging station 2600-2800ma. But once they past 60% they both dropped to 1200-1400ma with the screen on.
Screen off, they both consistently charged at 2600-2800ma.
Then I switched the chargers between the two phones, and I discovered that 200ma difference is because of the phone itself. No matter which charger I used, my 128GB T-Mo charged approx 200ma higher than the 512GB ATT. I'm guessing it's just a difference in the battery itself, as there are always manufacturing tolerances.
The 128GB T-Mo wound up fullu charging just a couple minutes faster than the 512GB ATT. But it's not a significant difference.
I was actually supposed to have a 512GB U1 model here today, but it got delayed in the mail. My original intent was to pit the two 512GBs against each other, but memory and storage shouldn't effect charge speed.
My conclusion: it doesn't matter which charger you use. To be on the safe side, always use the factory Samsung charger. But the Pixel charger will also work, and will charge it just as fast.
Awesome stuff. By any chance was there anything in the settings that showed which one was the hottest during charging was there? Cause the coolest one would be the best one in my opinion
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Awesome stuff. By any chance was there anything in the settings that showed which one was the hottest during charging was there? Cause the coolest one would be the best one in my opinion
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There is a temperature monitor in Accubattery but I didn't think to monitor it. I can tell you that I handled both phones during the charge process and neither felt warmer than the other. Certainly not enough to affect charge rate or overall battery health.
Interestingly, when I said my T-Mo phone hit full charge a few minutes faster than the ATT, I was wrong. I had based that on the estimate of when it would reach 100%
I later checked, and both phones hit 100% and the green LED came on indicating full charge within a few seconds of each other. So both chargers really did charge at the same speed.
My Exynos NOTE9, never charging with 9v model, only 4v-4.5v....
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My Exynos NOTE9, never charging with 9v model, only 4v-4.5v....
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I may be wrong, but I would guess that's a limitation of the Exynos processor. Quick Charge is a Snapdragon feature.
Someone else who knows more about the Exynos processor may correct me though.
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I may be wrong, but I would guess that's a limitation of the Exynos processor. Quick Charge is a Snapdragon feature.
Someone else who knows more about the Exynos processor may correct me though.
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quick charge is a samsung feature regardless of chip.
Just by electrical equations 9 V x 1.7 A = 15.3 W, and 5 V x 3 A = 15 W so without efficiency losses they're pretty close in capacity
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15 watts is 15 watts. Yea there is room in there for the internal resistance of the battery at a higher voltage/lower current vs lower voltage/higher current, but it's lost in the noise when it comes to other factors such as manufacturing tolerances of the battery and USB cable quality. In my opinion, there is really two things you can do to have your phone charge as fast as possible. Keep it cool while charging, and use a high quality USB cable (and charger of course).. the shorter, usually the better which lowers the resistance and gets the most power (watts) into the phone.
So if you have brand "Y" cable and brand "X" cable, and you know Y is of higher quality, always get the shortest cable they sell in that brand. I find factory cables are not always of the highest quality.
So Mr Orange, when you ran that side by side test, are you sure you were using identical cables. The difference you saw of 200mah might not have been the phone, but could have been from cables.
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15 watts is 15 watts. Yea there is room in there for the internal resistance of the battery at a higher voltage/lower current vs lower voltage/higher current, but it's lost in the noise when it comes to other factors such as manufacturing tolerances of the battery and USB cable quality. In my opinion, there is really two things you can do to have your phone charge as fast as possible. Keep it cool while charging, and use a high quality USB cable (and charger of course).. the shorter, usually the better which lowers the resistance and gets the most power (watts) into the phone.
So if you have brand "Y" cable and brand "X" cable, and you know Y is of higher quality, always get the shortest cable they sell in that brand. I find factory cables are not always of the highest quality.
So Mr Orange, when you ran that side by side test, are you sure you were using identical cables. The difference you saw of 200mah might not have been the phone, but could have been from cables.
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Of course not. It would've been impossible to use identical cables. I used the factory cable for the factory Pixel charger, which is USB C on both ends. And I used rrh factory cable for the factory Samsung fast charger, which is USB A to USB C.
Plus, my 128GB T-Mo Note 9 showed it was charging 200ma higher no matter which cable I used. As I said in my post, I switched them back and forth a few times to account for differences in the cables/chargers. I got the same the results from both phones with either cable.
But either way, if you read my follow up, they both charged to 100 at the same time, so ultimately it was a complete wash.