Potentially internal resistor burn in Xiaomi Type C cable - Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers

Hi all,
I think my original xiaomi Type C cable is somehow partially spoiled
Recently I'm facing charging slow with the quick charge 3.0 charger they provided and the cable they provided but not in my Xiaomi 10k QC2.0 powerbank + my newly bought Type C cable (as they can enter fast charging mode if according to the charging time and Ampere apps)
Since that newly bought type C cable can't compatible with the charger (I dunno why, the cable itself is USB 3.0 tho, but when try to use the cable at the charger and charge the phone it just can't be charge) so I'm tested the xiaomi type c cable with the powerbank
And yeap the result is also charging very slow :/
But still it's faster than when used in charger, when in the charger the charging rate show in Ampere rate is 250mA max and when in powerbank is 500mA.
But in that newly bought type C cable can be reach up to 2000mA when ur phone is already nearly reach 80%
I think maybe the resistor inside that xiaomi cable is about to burn since i can feel very hot on the type C port when charging even if used with powerbank; while that newly bought type C cable no such issue
As also when using the xiaomi qc 3.0 charger and that original xiaomi type c cable when they are about to enter quick charge mode the charger somehow straight cut off the power
So guys i should buy a completely new QC 3.0 charger (ofc other brand) or just buy the cable? Since the charger to powerbank is still using fast charging (the powerbank itself provided two way fast charging) if according to the time taken (3 to 4 hours charge from one light to four light max) so i think the charger itself is no problem.

I'd buy a new cable. I did, actually, as my phone (any phone actually) wasn't recognized on any pc with the original cable (I spent hours thinking I had bricked my phone but it was just a cable - thanks xiaomi).
Plus, cables are cheap.
Even better, let the store you bought it from know and maybe get a refund. I did

zoejo said:
I'd buy a new cable. I did, actually, as my phone (any phone actually) wasn't recognized on any pc with the original cable (I spent hours thinking I had bricked my phone but it was just a cable - thanks xiaomi).
Plus, cables are cheap.
Even better, let the store you bought it from know and maybe get a refund. I did
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Ya later night (Malaysia now is still afternoon) I'll go buy Anker cable, if their cable is compatible with the Xiaomi QC 3.0 charger then I'll buy two (one for powerbank one for charger), if not I'll buy the Anker QC 3.0 charger also

Got myself two Anker Type C cable
Very thick and heavy, the tips also very big
But feel great

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Confirmed fast charging longer cables?

Those who have their phone know the cable on the fast charger is 1 meter, which is not long enough to reach any table youd ever have a plug next to.
I tried two different type C -> Type C cables and neither would fast charge with the included wall wart.
Anyone find a longer cable that fast charges with our plugs? 2 meters would be great.
It's tough sledding hacking through all the different Amazon.com listings to get something with an actual USB 3.1 and 3A rating for a 2m cable. The ones I;ve seen are either out of stock, take forever to come from China or overpriced in the $25-30 range. Would love to hear from anyone that actually found one too.
I bought a type C to A from amazon for the computer and it charges rapidly on all my wall chargers down to 2.4 amp.
Monoprice was out, otherwise I would have ordered there. >>> http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13010
this is what I'm using, fast charges and mounts no problem.
http://tinyurl.com/oyahw4h amazon link
I would bet this will work. same brand as what I have, they have a real thick jacket on them. It's a good cord.
http://tinyurl.com/oyahw4h amazon link
edit, I just read the description on amazon for those cords
....Note for Nexus 5X/6P: In order to ensure FAST CHARGING, please ensure the charger can output 5V/3A. The cable can afford 3A current did not mean it can provide 3A. We recommend use Google official USB Type C charger with our USB C to C cable...
That monoprice page is goofy.. title lists it as USB 2.0 and then the description goes on to talk about USB 3.1
minnemike said:
That monoprice page is goofy.. title lists it as USB 2.0 and then the description goes on to talk about USB 3.1
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Monoprice 2.0 six foot c to c cable charges just as fast as the 3 foot cable that came with the phone. High quality stuff. The phone doesn't support higher than 2.0 anyway.
br125 said:
Monoprice 2.0 six foot c to c cable charges just as fast as the 3 foot cable that came with the phone. High quality stuff. The phone doesn't support higher than 2.0 anyway.
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USB 2.0 refers to the data transmission standard and really nothing to do with charging amps. Although, to be USB 3.1 compliant, I think the cable needs to be fairly stout to handle the increased loads in both data speed and charging power. My guess is this cable is in fact 3.1, but someone made a mistake updating the title.
minnemike said:
USB 2.0 refers to the data transmission standard and really nothing to do with charging amps. Although, to be USB 3.1 compliant, I think the cable needs to be fairly stout to handle the increased loads in both data speed and charging power. My guess is this cable is in fact 3.1, but someone made a mistake updating the title.
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I understand that. Monoprice's 2.0 c to c cable supports up to 3A. No point in spending almost double the price on the 3.1 cable..
br125 said:
I understand that. Monoprice's 2.0 c to c cable supports up to 3A. No point in spending almost double the price on the 3.1 cable..
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What I am saying is that it is hard to even trust the 3A rating with the conflicting statements on 2.0 vs 3.1. Do you have the cable and have tested it? That would be different.
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What I am saying is that it is hard to even trust the 3A rating with the conflicting statements on 2.0 vs 3.1. Do you have the cable and have tested it? That would be different.
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Yes I do have the cable. Monoprice has that 3.1 description on all of their type c cables for some reason. The 2.0 3a cable works just fine.. I just went from 49% to 82% from when I went outside to winterize my boat and when I just went back in to check my phone, not sure how long that was, but a pretty short period of time. I usually put it on the charger when I turn on the TV at night and take it off when it hits 100% before I do to sleep.
I ordered this USB A to C one, http://.ebay.com/itm/261840366171 . The phone says Charging Rapidly. I have not done any data transfer with the computer, but upon plugging it in, the computer detected it ok. It ships from the US, but took a little while with standard shipping. Maybe almost a week;
just got some usb-c to usb-a 3.1 cables from techmatte this coupled with my Insignia 5v 2.4a charger from best buy are giving me a "rapidly charging" icon on lock screen
here is the cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01706YAXY
here is the charger http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-wall-charger-black/5689167.p?id=1219148349763&skuId=5689167
EDIT I am using a 5ft cable
OnePlus
Do0zman said:
just got some usb-c to usb-a 3.1 cables from techmatte this coupled with my Insignia 5v 2.4a charger from best buy are giving me a "rapidly charging" icon on lock screen
here is the cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01706YAXY
here is the charger http://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-usb-wall-charger-black/5689167.p?id=1219148349763&skuId=5689167
EDIT I am using a 5ft cable
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It might say rapidly charging but I doubt it's as fast as the stock charger. I've used a USB-A to type C cable, got rapidly charging, but it was only max 1800 mAh as opposed to the 2800+ with the stock one.
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You're right but its still faster than not rapidly charging
Do0zman said:
You're right but its still faster than not rapidly charging
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Not really. That's not even faster than a regular phone that on a 2.0A charger.
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EeZeEpEe said:
Not really. That's not even faster than a regular phone that on a 2.0A charger.
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I dunno about that. I have used a couple 2A Samsung USB chargers with type a to c cable and my phone charges almost as quickly as the stock charger at least in regards of empty to full. I think the difference between the stock and alternate high amp chargers that are around 2A is how quickly it can do a partial quick charge from say 0 to 50% but from 0 to 100% I haven't noticed much of a difference.
I am using this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L2I0F4U
and this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013DAES3S
EeZeEpEe said:
It might say rapidly charging but I doubt it's as fast as the stock charger. I've used a USB-A to type C cable, got rapidly charging, but it was only max 1800 mAh as opposed to the 2800+ with the stock one.
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I got one of his cables to review... I got it to charge 2.2A + using a 2.4A charger. But I do think you are correct in that there probably isnt a 3A option with anything using USB TYPE-A. 3A seems to be the realm of pure USB TYPE-C.
I purchased this cable and it charges at the same rate as the short OEM cable supplied with the 5x.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKLAD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
caseyweed said:
I purchased this cable and it charges at the same rate as the short OEM cable supplied with the 5x.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00WAKLAD4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
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Thanks but unfortunately i got it and it didnt work, it just says charging with the stock charger. That sucks because otherwise its a great length and a really nice cable, guess I will have to return it.
ryan stewart said:
Thanks but unfortunately i got it and it didnt work, it just says charging with the stock charger. That sucks because otherwise its a great length and a really nice cable, guess I will have to return it.
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That's really odd. Mine registered fast charging immediately. I tested with Ampere multiple times and received the exact same reading with both cables.

Anker PowerIQ inconsistent charging

Has anyone had issues using Anker PowerIQ chargers with the Nexus 5X? I've purchased an Anker 2nd Gen Astro E4 13000mAh 2-Port (3A Output) and when connected to the Nexus 5X it keeps connecting and disconnecting. It does not appear to be a cable issue (my old 2A charger works fine through the same cable). Meanwhile the Anker charges the old Nexus 5 without any issue - it's just the Nexus 5X that seems to experience problems.
I'm wondering whether it's Anker's PowerIQ having trouble working out the correct power draw for the Nexus 5X. If anyone's had similar issues with PowerIQ or other chargers, I'd love to hear potential fixes or confirmation that I'll need to switch it out for something else.
I have encountered the exact same issue with the Anker Astro E4 battery. At first I figured it was the cheap Aliexpress USB-A to C cable I was using, but I think you're onto something about the PowerIQ not knowing how to negotiate with the 5X correctly. I contacted Anker Support on Twitter yesterday and was told to contact [email protected] about the issue. I haven't yet pursued that avenue, but I'll update once I have.
I don't think I have any issue with my PowerIQ non-quick charging 6 port desktop charger or 2-port battery park (15600 mah)
I have the same issue with my Nexus 5X. After I posted a negative review due to this on Amazon, Anker reached out to me and has shipped one of their 4 port chargers which they think will resolve the issue. We shall see...
It still could be a cable issue. The difference is that your Anker may contain smarter charging tech inside and it is self regulating what the cable is asking for (possibly 3A) when it cant really deliver that. With your other charger, it is possible it is blindly delivering an overcharge for its rated max and may brown out soon if not over time.
minnemike said:
It still could be a cable issue. The difference is that your Anker may contain smarter charging tech inside and it is self regulating what the cable is asking for (possibly 3A) when it cant really deliver that. With your other charger, it is possible it is blindly delivering an overcharge for its rated max and may brown out soon if not over time.
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In my case, I'm 99% certain it's not the cable, as I'm using an OEM / Google A->C cable.
Andeh23 said:
In my case, I'm 99% certain it's not the cable, as I'm using an OEM / Google A->C cable.
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Does fast charging display with that cable?
fosser2 said:
Does fast charging display with that cable?
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I honestly don't know, as I don't have an OEM type A wall charger to test it with. I would assume so, since it came from Google. I did receive Anker's 4 port car charger last night, but need to wait until this evening commute (once my battery drains) to see whether it works. Plugging it in this morning showed just "charging" when I was at 98%, but it wasn't cutting in and out like the 2 port one was.
Andeh23 said:
I honestly don't know, as I don't have an OEM type A wall charger to test it with. I would assume so, since it came from Google. I did receive Anker's 4 port car charger last night, but need to wait until this evening commute (once my battery drains) to see whether it works. Plugging it in this morning showed just "charging" when I was at 98%, but it wasn't cutting in and out like the 2 port one was.
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My OEM cable is on its way as well. If you get a chance to test it on a different charger later on, please post the results. I would love to see that OEM cable say "charging rapidly."
Followup: I tested the Anker 4 port charger with the OEM Google A->C cable, and it does register as "charging rapidly." Using Ampere, I measured 1340 mA / 4.08 V peak to it. I also tested my new Tronsmart charger (with built-in USB C cable), which measured 1710 mA / 3.903 V peak.
I have same disconnect issues with aukey quickcharge battery pack
After a little back and forth with Anker email support, they are sending me an Anker PowerCore+ 10050 USB-C Battery Pack as a replacement for the Astro E2 not charging the 5x correctly - at no charge! Very impressed. It's been shipped but I haven't received it yet - from what I can tell spec-wise it has native USB Type C and A ports, but I can't yet confirm if this can fast charge the 5x at the same output as the stock wall charger.
I'll report back once I've had time to test.
sounds like an combo issue of the cable and battery pack/charger.
have you guys seen the thread about a google engineer (benson leung) reviewing usb -c cables?
basically usb-c standard cables should have a resistor in them which the phone uses to detect if the charger is able to supply 3A or not. without this (most cables seem to not have this, including the oneplus one) the phone thinks it can draw 3A and tries to do so. this can result in damaging you charger as that is more than it can produce. but apparently it can also damage components in your phone as the current it thinks it is receiving is higher than the actual current being received.
The disconnection issue sounds like the charger has a protection mechanism and realizes the phone is trying to draw more power than it can provide, so it cuts off to prevent overloading.
I tried the PowerDrive 2 and it has the same isse where it charges for a few seconds, stops, then charges for a few seconds, etc. I emailed thier support but have not heard back.
I have the same issue with Aukey PA-12, tried two different cables. The charger works fine with my wife's quick charging phone.... I hope it is a kernel issue that can be fixed. The original Google charger works flawlessly.

Samsung charger vs Nexus 5X, need a little help/advice!

Hello guys. I use a standard 5V 2.0A charger at work with the original Samsung micro USB cable, I also have a Xiaomi type-C converter. Most of the times my Nexus 5X says charging rapidly! So my question is, is it safe to use? Can it harm my device? Any ideas? Thanks in advance!
It won't hurt it, in fact it'll charge slower. So should create less heat and be better for it. Use ampere to check actual rates. The Nexus 5x c to c charger is rated higher than that. Slower is rarely ever bad, faster can be the issue
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No it won't but stock charger is more powerful (2.0 A vs 3.0 A)
I use a Samsung charger with a Type A to type C cable for overnight charging as I don't need it to charge rapidly while I'm sleeping. My cable is certified to comply with the standards though. Don't know if that Xiaomi type-C converter is or needs to be.
As said by @ideaman924, if it says Charging Rapidly, there's problem. Phone thinks it's connected to full-fledged USB Type-C cable which can handle more current than your microUSB cable with converter on the end (3A vs 2A).
AFAIK, it means there's bad/missing resistor in converter and thus it is NOT safe to use. And definitely not safe to charge with all night.
Example: For overnight charging I use Samsung's 5V 1A charger with Anker' a USB A to USB Type-C cable and phone says only Charging. However, when connected to stock Type-C to Type-C charger, it says "Charging Rapidly". That's how it should work.
So, head over to Amazon and buy ONLY Benson Leung certified cable. If you don't know him, Google his name -- he tests USB Type-C cables and made spreadsheet.
Where did you get that Samsung charger from? I had that same issue but it was with a 2.0a Samsung charger that came from Amazon that ended up being a fake, as with almost all the "genuine OEM" chargers sold on eBay/amazon. On a regular tablet it would output just under 2a. (I measured it once something like 1.88 or something IIRC) However, once connected to a co-workers 5X though it said charging rapidly and got very hot very quickly. It got binned after that. I don't use cheap chargers anymore.
Dont know if yours is a fake or not, but if you didn't get it with a new phone, I'd be suspect of it.
I prefer using the original one since boot loop issues
if your phone explode don't blame the LG

Question No turbo charge with other USB cables

The cable that comes with the 67w charger is super short so i bought 66w 3a or something cables that should support the turbo charge.
Not only it doesn't turbo charge but not even quick charge.
Anyway to bypass this Xiaomi only cables protection?
doribak said:
The cable that comes with the 67w charger is super short so i bought 66w 3a or something cables that should support the turbo charge.
Not only it doesn't turbo charge but not even quick charge.
Anyway to bypass this Xiaomi only cables protection?
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I bought a 100W USBC cable and have no issue to turbo charge with it if plugged to the Xiaomi charger.
Where I am a bit disappointed is I bought an Aukey charger and unfortunately it only fats charges but doesn't turbo charge
There is no "xiaomi cable only" or similar restrictions.
The cable you bought is just not "good enough".
You need a cable that supports at least 6A I think.
I have several cables and also cables that support Ultra Charge and are not from xiaomi.
But in fact it is so that even with these cables (Although ultra charge is displayed) is not charged as fast as with the original cable.
If you want to use the power supply with 100 percent of the possible performance I have actually only managed to do so far with the original cable ...
It's not about "Xiaomi only" cable. Power delivery is dependant on the lenght of the cable. For my old OP7T Pro the cable that came with the phone is thick as the one that Xiaomi uses. But i needed longer one and when i got it, it was thick flat cable. Looks lika SATA cable - like 2mm thick and 8mm wide. I'm thinking that if we want turbo charge with 1,5-2m cable it needs to be very high quality with the highest specs available.
vanshee said:
It's not about "Xiaomi only" cable. Power delivery is dependant on the lenght of the cable. For my old OP7T Pro the cable that came with the phone is thick as the one that Xiaomi uses. But i needed longer one and when i got it, it was thick flat cable. Looks lika SATA cable - like 2mm thick and 8mm wide. I'm thinking that if we want turbo charge with 1,5-2m cable it needs to be very high quality with the highest specs available.
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You will get some degrade in voltage when you increase the cable length
The charger brick can output 67w Max and if you double or triple the length of the cable all 67w will not reach the phone
On a high quality (expensive) cable you might get most of it and on a cheap cable from the dollar store or eBay it might take several hours to fully charge because the cable might only be rated to send 5w ,10w or 18w
Other factors come into play like room temperature , how many apps are running in the background/foreground , whether or not you're connected to 5g , wifi , Bluetooth devices and whether the screen is on or off
Best results normally come from the cable that came with it and I read it's the only one that works with the mi unlock app to unlock your bootloader
Xiaomi really need to up their game on accessories.
speedtripler said:
Best results normally come from the cable that came with it and I read it's the only one that works with the mi unlock app to unlock your bootloader
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I used my old OnePlus USB cable to unlock mine, and install new firmware, worked fine.
My OnePlus cable worked fine for USB related stuff but wouldn't charge at full speed and my LG one didn't get recognised in Fastboot.
My Oneplus 150cm dash cable displays Mi Turbo Charge / Rapid charging but doesn't count up like the original cable does when it displays Mi Turbo Charge.
My "ACAGET USB C Cable 2M, 55W 6A Charge Turbo" cable just displays quick charge / fast charging.

Question Wireless charger problem

Hi, Hello!
I have been a happy owner of oneplus 10 pro for some time now.
I bought an original wireless charger AIRVOOC 50W fo it, to my suprise the "warp" fast charging did not work...
I thought maybe the charger itself was demaged because the packing was open, i returned the product.
Ordered a new copy in another store, this time everything wrapped in foil.
Unfortunately, the new charger also does not charge with fast "warp" charging...
I do not know what the problem is, i connect the wireless charger to the original charger included with the phone, 80W with a USB A socket. Maybe it must be a wall charger with USB C type?
Please help me because i don't know what to do anymore....
Paul.Fib said:
Hi, Hello!
I have been a happy owner of oneplus 10 pro for some time now.
I bought an original wireless charger AIRVOOC 50W fo it, to my suprise the "warp" fast charging did not work...
I thought maybe the charger itself was demaged because the packing was open, i returned the product.
Ordered a new copy in another store, this time everything wrapped in foil.
Unfortunately, the new charger also does not charge with fast "warp" charging...
I do not know what the problem is, i connect the wireless charger to the original charger included with the phone, 80W with a USB A socket. Maybe it must be a wall charger with USB C type?
Please help me because i don't know what to do anymore....
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I would try a type c charger. That is what I use. I can try my wireless charger in a few days with a 100w charger for you that is type a.
Thank you for your answer, I have to be sure that it's the fault of the brick with the USB-A input, I don't want to spend money in vain, and unfortunately the original chargers from OnePlus are quite expensive.
So I tested mine with the 125w oneplus type a charger and my wireless charger works fine.
Paul.Fib said:
Thank you for your answer, I have to be sure that it's the fault of the brick with the USB-A input, I don't want to spend money in vain, and unfortunately the original chargers from OnePlus are quite expensive.
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I am using my wireless charger with the 80W that comes with the phone too (cable A to C) and it's working great, I have the 50W wireless
Do you have the '' silent charging '' unset in the battery parameters of your phone?
Thank you for your interest and willingness to help!
The problem turned out to be the original cable that came with the phone.
After connecting the cable to the phone, vooc fast charging works, I disconnect it from the phone, connect it to the wireless charger and bang, vooc fast charging does not work.
I changed the cable for another one and it WORKS!...
A very strange problem, and very unusual, but most importantly, it is solved!
Thanks again and take care!

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