Hello Guys,
before Froyo it was possible do "disable" the Car mode by deleting the CarHome.apk.
But since Froyo, if you delete this apk, the Phone still switches to CarMode in the CarDock....
And maybe thats a reason for the loudness problem in the Cardock...
Does anyone know how i can disable the Carmode Completely?
thanks a lot
Install "dock nothingness" from market.
Also you have posted in the wrong forum. If it is a question, it goes to Q&A forum.
ive noticed as well, since 2.2 i havent been able to adjust the audio when it is docked in the car, is that just me? I use audiomanagerpro but i also tried to adjust the media volume from the settings menu as well
I'm so happy to KILLED the evil Car Mode - here's how
Car Mode would pop up constantly on my HTC Incredible 2. It had nothing to do with the usb. Most times, the phone wasn't even plugged it and Car Mode would still pop up and Yes, I could click on it and disable it. For about 5 secs, then it was back. The worst part was that it would force-close the program that I was in to launch. It took me about 8 hours of research. Car Mode is a system app, and therefore can not be removed like other applications. You have to root your phone then delete, freeze or rename. Ok by me, but rooting apparently isn't stable yet for the Incredible 2 if you have a later os version than 2.2. Guess what? I have 2.3. No problem, how do i revert. Oh, i find out, you can't without resetting the phone to factory, which by the way is what verizon support suggested. I thought not before I back up, but lo and behold you can't back up more than contacts and pics without rooting. Arrrrgh! Next, I looked for an app to help me battle this devil Car Mode, so I tried apps from Amazon and market:
Advanced task killer Free
Astro
Gemini App Manager
Dock Nothingness
Dock no-op
Disable car home
and NONE of them worked, at least not for the Incredible 2.
I had a new idea, if you can't beat them, join them so I installed the latest version of Car Dock Home, hoping that at least it would give the option to not launch. Nope, didn't work. Luckily, I'm good at my job just because I don't give me 'easily'. Anyway, finally on my 14th try, I used 'DockNothing Free' from Amazon. At first, I didn't think this worked either. There was no input screen or settings but that's because the app doesn't initiate until the Car Mode launches, then it allows you to choose to select DockNothing as the default program. I had to do that 3 times: 1) Car Panel 2)Car Dock 3)Home Dock. Now I actually see a little popup that says 3 tasks killed. YEA!
Sorry for the long post, but I'll bet if you're here, you are going crazy because of Car Mode. And I read a lot more than just this much to get mine fixed.
ps. Car Mode actually looks pretty neat and seems useful IN THE CAR. But I have been too afraid to release the monster to check it out. I might at the next update. Might....
interesting, i love car mode in the car, no idea why yours is coming up while not in one lol
patience, htcdev website just released the unlock bootloader over the web for the uk sensation today, should probably hit for the other htc phones soon
Im having the same issue here on a desire z.. The Dock nothingness and simmilar applications doesn't help with the "car mode" at all
it just replaces the "Car Home" App
It's the "Car Mode" that is the problem for me atleast.
when the phone enters/exits car mode the phone always returns to the homescreen.
Any progress on disabling this?
I got rid of it on my Desire by adding a shortcut to the homescreen and choosing Settings > Car Dock and then unticking Auto Launch. I never saw car mode again so it either fixed it or it was a coincidence.
This is sort of a dumb questions but is there any preferred order when using Android Auto to turn the car radio off? What I mean is should I unplug the USB from my phone first when Android Auto is active, or should I shut the car down (radio turns off), then unplug my phone, or does it not matter?
It took a while to get my Android Auto to work, I just kept trying and it looks pretty cool. I'm using a AVIC-8100NEX with a Sony Xperia Z3 compact unlocked running 5.0.2. The only bug I've had is for some reason, my phone lost the bluetooth pairing with my radio after the 3rd time I used Android Auto. I never had this problem before with this phone or radio during normal use. I was curious if it was the way I shut it off.
Thanks for any help
Jason
For me, it seems best to turn off the car then unplug the phone.
But here, it is much more important how you connect than disconnect. If I turn on bluetooth on the phone, start the car and wait for bluetooth to connect, and then plug it in, everything works fine. But if the phone is plugged in before the NEX is on, it will create a new pairing in favor of the old one. And sometimes it will delete the pairing entirely.
Weird.
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For me, it seems best to turn off the car then unplug the phone.
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You didn't mention a reason, but I think safety is a valid reason to turn car off first.
Once the car is safely parked, and the engine (or hybrid or EV ECU) is safely off, THEN you can pick up the phone and unplug it.
This order should also be the most provably legal method in the many locales where phone use/distracted driving laws are active.
This order could also be advantageous for minimizing power spikes and tiny little sparks on the power connectors.
Logically, with all software working as it should, there should be no software preference. It's a disconnection to the still running phone either way. I've noted no difference except that Android Auto might run a little longer before it crashes itself to sleep or otherwise terminates.
Android Auto supports a "Byebye" request packet and a response packet. Shutting the headunit down gives it an extra second to do cleanups like this.
All of this seems to support "Power off car or HU, then unplug" as a good habit.
But if something crashes (HU or AA software), or you want to switch phones while "hot" (which nobody has ever mentioned that I've read) it might be less distracting to yank and replug, which of course should only be done when it's safe to do so.
Solutions Etcetera said:
For me, it seems best to turn off the car then unplug the phone.
But here, it is much more important how you connect than disconnect. If I turn on bluetooth on the phone, start the car and wait for bluetooth to connect, and then plug it in, everything works fine. But if the phone is plugged in before the NEX is on, it will create a new pairing in favor of the old one. And sometimes it will delete the pairing entirely.
Weird.
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Wow, I've been searching everywhere for someone with the same issue as me and tried figuring out why my phone keeps (intermittently) forgetting my car as a bluetooth device after I've connected it to Android Auto. I will be testing out your suggestion, thanks beforehand though, I never would've guessed it had to do with the order you connect it in, rather than disconnect.
mrnmukkas said:
Wow, I've been searching everywhere for someone with the same issue as me and tried figuring out why my phone keeps (intermittently) forgetting my car as a bluetooth device after I've connected it to Android Auto. I will be testing out your suggestion, thanks beforehand though, I never would've guessed it had to do with the order you connect it in, rather than disconnect.
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My comments were based on using AA with a Moto X. Now that a Nexus 6P is my daily driver, I just plug it in, make sure it is unlocked, and start the engine. I don't even turn BT on anymore as AA does that automatically.
No issues this way in over a week. Nice to be Nexusing again!
Solutions Etcetera said:
My comments were based on using AA with a Moto X. Now that a Nexus 6P is my daily driver, I just plug it in, make sure it is unlocked, and start the engine. I don't even turn BT on anymore as AA does that automatically.
No issues this way in over a week. Nice to be Nexusing again!
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Odd, I've been having these issues first with my Nexus 6 and now Nexus 6P. It just sometimes removes my car from the saved bluetooth devices list and the next time I get in the car it demands to be paired again. Anyway, I'll try your solution and report back.
Alright, so I tried letting the bluetooth connect and then plugged in the cable, unfortunately that still made my phone forget about the car as soon as I disconnected it.
However, your last message got me thinking, maybe I'm overcomplicating this. I've noticed that the phone indeed does get connected to bluetooth, regardless of whether I pair it if/when it prompts me or not, Android Auto does seem to handle the pairing by itself.
I've only once noticed that the phone actually failed connecting and that was with my Nexus 6 which always felt like it had a wonky bluetooth. That time I couldn't place a call with the car handsfree, or even start the "phone app" on the Auto screen. So far the phone app has never refused to work on my Nexus 6P, regardless of if I skipped the pairing request.
So the best method I've found is to plug the phone to the USB before starting the car, this way it doesn't even prompt me to make a bluetooth connection, it just starts Android Auto right away and does the pairing automatically.
The only nuisance with this solution is that I get a new Smart Lock notification every time the phone connects, but I guess I can live with that (though it's not very elegant).
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The only nuisance with this solution is that I get a new Smart Lock notification every time the phone connects, but I guess I can live with that (though it's not very elegant).
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Yeah, I've seen that with all my phones. Be nice to turn that off but haven't found a way short of completely turning off smartlock.
Would this imply that you are alone? Here is the reason for my question:
Pull into the train station, Wife will be driving the rest of the way to work. I unplug my phone because i take it with me. HU goes back to Main Menu, she plugs her phone in and says "Play Music" ,she then drives to work listening to her own music. I dont think using AA should force us to power off the car before unplugging. We do this scenario everyday and have never had an issue. Just wanted to throw that into the conversation.
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You didn't mention a reason, but I think safety is a valid reason to turn car off first.
Once the car is safely parked, and the engine (or hybrid or EV ECU) is safely off, THEN you can pick up the phone and unplug it.
This order should also be the most provably legal method in the many locales where phone use/distracted driving laws are active.
This order could also be advantageous for minimizing power spikes and tiny little sparks on the power connectors.
Logically, with all software working as it should, there should be no software preference. It's a disconnection to the still running phone either way. I've noted no difference except that Android Auto might run a little longer before it crashes itself to sleep or otherwise terminates.
Android Auto supports a "Byebye" request packet and a response packet. Shutting the headunit down gives it an extra second to do cleanups like this.
All of this seems to support "Power off car or HU, then unplug" as a good habit.
But if something crashes (HU or AA software), or you want to switch phones while "hot" (which nobody has ever mentioned that I've read) it might be less distracting to yank and replug, which of course should only be done when it's safe to do so.
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BPryde said:
Would this imply that you are alone? Here is the reason for my question:
Pull into the train station, Wife will be driving the rest of the way to work. I unplug my phone because i take it with me. HU goes back to Main Menu, she plugs her phone in and says "Play Music" ,she then drives to work listening to her own music. I dont think using AA should force us to power off the car before unplugging. We do this scenario everyday and have never had an issue. Just wanted to throw that into the conversation.
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In the end, I don't think it's a big deal to worry about order, unless one method crashes or has other bad results.
The reasonings I gave are IMO rather tiny, and "split some hairs", just to come down in slight favor of one order over another.
Do whatever works for you and save your worry for the bigger issues in life...
New hybrid or electric drivers may ask "How do I drive it". Answer: just like any other car or however suits you.
mikereidis said:
You didn't mention a reason, but I think safety is a valid reason to turn car off first.
Once the car is safely parked, and the engine (or hybrid or EV ECU) is safely off, THEN you can pick up the phone and unplug it.
This order should also be the most provably legal method in the many locales where phone use/distracted driving laws are active.
This order could also be advantageous for minimizing power spikes and tiny little sparks on the power connectors.
Logically, with all software working as it should, there should be no software preference. It's a disconnection to the still running phone either way. I've noted no difference except that Android Auto might run a little longer before it crashes itself to sleep or otherwise terminates.
Android Auto supports a "Byebye" request packet and a response packet. Shutting the headunit down gives it an extra second to do cleanups like this.
All of this seems to support "Power off car or HU, then unplug" as a good habit.
But if something crashes (HU or AA software), or you want to switch phones while "hot" (which nobody has ever mentioned that I've read) it might be less distracting to yank and replug, which of course should only be done when it's safe to do so.
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I have had the opposite experience in my 2016 VW gti. I have to unplug before shutting the car off.
With 3 different HTC(m9, a9, 10) phones, and the galaxy s7, if I turn the car off before unplugging I will have to pair the phone again. AA will auto pair it, but I still have to give the car message access and dismiss the new smart lock notification.
Old but relevant thread
I am using a Samsung A8 with a 2019 Subaru HU. I too have been having success with unplugging the USB cable first before turning off the radio/engine. Without power to the USB port as on turning off the engine, it seems to mess with the handshake randomly. For now, every time I stop and park I pull the cord first. Seems to better handle the disconnect better, but time will tell.
Wilbour said:
I am using a Samsung A8 with a 2019 Subaru HU. I too have been having success with unplugging the USB cable first before turning off the radio/engine. Without power to the USB port as on turning off the engine, it seems to mess with the handshake randomly. For now, every time I stop and park I pull the cord first. Seems to better handle the disconnect better, but time will tell.
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I rarely do this because I am lazy. But for me the best way to disconnect is to pull the notification that is telling me that android auto is connect to my phone and then touching the option to disconnect it. Sometimes when i simply disconnect the USB the android auto app on my phone complains about a connection error code xxx (I forgot the exact code)
Workaround that works 100% of the time for those having trouble connecting.
Unlock phone and turn on car or head unit. Note you should have android auto installed already before this will work. Plug in the cable to your phone and you will hear the link sound and the screen on your phone will flash off for just a second. As quickly as possible once the screen goes black on your phone uncable the phone and reconnect it. I know this sounds janky, but it really works. You can tell it is working by the screen on your head unit going black in the background and you will see the android auto icon sI have tried all suggested fixes and this is the only one that works 100% of the time. It also does not take over the telephone's display so you can navigate to other apps and still have android auto running. It is quick and gives you the best of both worlds. I almost returned my 2016 gti due to the frustration from this issue, but now it is no big deal.
Hope this helps guys and gals.
No. For what I read , the only API available for 3rd parties are to send messages and music, and that, using google interface. No other developer can do anything with AA.
I repurposed this for the car, and would like it to power on and off without me touching it, i.e. with the engine. I see a few apps which do this for 4.0+ but this is running CM7.
Ref to an API would be ok as it sounds like an easy app to write.
Do you mean just wake on plug which is default or it turning on from being completely powered off? The latter would require device specific bootloader mods and isnt feasible
Thanks for your reply. I did mean to switch on the device just when the power was connected. It's a shame the N1 can't do this - for the car it's ideal. Do you know if any later android phones support this?
otamate said:
Thanks for your reply. I did mean to switch on the device just when the power was connected. It's a shame the N1 can't do this - for the car it's ideal. Do you know if any later android phones support this?
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No the only phone that does this I can think of are all iOS devices.
I recently started getting a lot of AA disconnects from my Samsung phone and my AA stereos - I have an Android Chinese unit as well as a Kenwood Excelon in my second car. Thought the cable might be the issue but that didn't seem like it.
I went in to the apps menu and found that under system apps, there are 2 more AA related apps. Proceeded to turn off battery optimizations for all 3 and now it seems to be running stable.
The apps are:
Android Auto (DUH!)
android.auto_generated_rro_product__
android.auto_generated_rro_vendor__
You're the f'ing man! I could kiss you.
Didn't work for me.. only fix I have found is tap the usb options [while plugged in] on phone and tell the phone that the plugged in device manages connection.. unfortunately this setting does not remain set after use.