Is there anyway to have slower Shutter Speeds than 30s and higher ISO than 3200 in manual mode for the OnePlus 3T?
In theory, yes. Older OPO had 60s and Sony Z3 could go to 6400/12800. I think the latter only in auto.
davebugyi said:
In theory, yes. Older OPO had 60s and Sony Z3 could go to 6400/12800. I think the latter only in auto.
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OP3/3T goes up to 6400 ISO in automatic mode, and 4000 in HQ mode.
Anything for the manual mode? Please.
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As we all know by now, all camera reviews say our S5 has sub par night shooting. The thing is if we have our default settings on, this is absolutely true. I believe default has ISO on Auto and image stabilization ON. If you notice night shots are blurry as hell and we lose lots of detail even if we hold the phone absolutely still. This is because Auto ISO, I believe, is digitally ramped super high past ISO 800 in order to have a quick shutter speed. This causes less details to be taken in, in trade for brighter night shots.
This is the easiest way to get much better night shots and I wish reviewers tried this in their camera reviews for smartphones. See examples below of:
1. auto image stabilization with auto ISO
2. ISO 800
MUCH BETTER. notice that with auto settings on, it artificially brightens the entire shot, the night sky is forced to be brighter and you notice lots of noise near the horizon. the carnival lights are over exposed and details are not present.
notice the manual ISO shot, the night sky is correctly a pure black, and the lights are not over exposed so it leaves a crisp detail.
TL;DR: deactivate image stabilization so you can manually adjust ISO. Instead of Auto ISO, choose 800 for crisper, more detailed night shots.
next tip in the near future: shooting people in dark lighting
chillsen said:
As we all know by now, all camera reviews say our S5 has sub par night shooting. The thing is if we have our default settings on, this is absolutely true. I believe default has ISO on Auto and image stabilization ON. If you notice night shots are blurry as hell and we lose lots of detail even if we hold the phone absolutely still. This is because Auto ISO, I believe, is digitally ramped super high past ISO 800 in order to have a quick shutter speed. This causes less details to be taken in, in trade for brighter night shots.
This is the easiest way to get much better night shots and I wish reviewers tried this in their camera reviews for smartphones. See examples below of:
1. auto image stabilization with auto ISO
2. ISO 800
MUCH BETTER. notice that with auto settings on, it artificially brightens the entire shot, the night sky is forced to be brighter and you notice lots of noise near the horizon. the carnival lights are over exposed and details are not present.
notice the manual ISO shot, the night sky is correctly a pure black, and the lights are not over exposed so it leaves a crisp detail.
TL;DR: deactivate image stabilization so you can manually adjust ISO. Instead of Auto ISO, choose 800 for crisper, more detailed night shots.
next tip in the near future: shooting people in dark lighting
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What park is that? Looks like the one near me, is that roller coaster the crazy mouse? Lmao.
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Impressive, that's a nice shot.
not bad
thanks for the tip the delay sucks anyway to get rid of that?
What about during the day, I have it on auto but imagine stabilization off. would 800 iso be fine for the day? Or is there a better setting for the day, I just leave it on auto b/c I don't want deal with remembering to change it back and forth lol.
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What about during the day, I have it on auto but imagine stabilization off. would 800 iso be fine for the day? Or is there a better setting for the day, I just leave it on auto b/c I don't want deal with remembering to change it back and forth lol.
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for the day, auto is fine because there is so much bright light it will automatically be able to keep the iso low like 100-400 and still have a quick shutter. if you want super clear crisp pictures, try ISO 100 but depending on how bright it is, you might get blurry photos because the shutter will have to compensate by being open longer.
if you know the basic relationships between shutter speed and aperture, you'll know that our aperture is only 1 setting. so the only thing we can do to brighten pictures is to have a long shutter time (which is bad bc if you move it will get blurry) or change the ISO speed (higher iso, enables quicker shutter speed but sacrifice details).
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thanks for the tip the delay sucks anyway to get rid of that?
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the delay isn't actually a delay but its how long the shutter of the camera is open for (taking in enough light to form the picture). Since it's dark and the ISO is at 800 there will be a longer shutter speed. if you listen carefully you will hear 2 noises, one at the beginning, then the delay, then another sound. those two sounds are when the shutter is opening and when it closes back after it has enough light to create a picture.
another way for you to understand this is try iso 100, it will be a longer delay and the picture will come out way too underexposed (darker) because it can't capture enough light while the shutter is open.
however if you have a nice digital camera you can take great night shots with a tripod at low ISO speeds, since you can manually set how long you want the shutter to be open for.
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What park is that? Looks like the one near me, is that roller coaster the crazy mouse? Lmao.
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Hi everyone,
I like CM11 a lot, but there's one crucial feature missing that keeps me from staying on it for too long: low light photography. The ISO seems to be capped at 1600 on CM11, and the exposure time at 1/24 of a second. Compared to Sense's 2000 ISO and 1/8 second exposure time, the difference is literally night and day. Can anyone point to a fix that will "unlock" the CM11 camera so it can use longer exposures?
Thanks,
sauprankul
EDIT: Also, why does CM11 record the aperture size as f/1.0? It's 2.0 right?
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Hi everyone,
I like CM11 a lot, but there's one crucial feature missing that keeps me from staying on it for too long: low light photography. The ISO seems to be capped at 1600 on CM11, and the exposure time at 1/24 of a second. Compared to Sense's 2000 ISO and 1/8 second exposure time, the difference is literally night and day. Can anyone point to a fix that will "unlock" the CM11 camera so it can use longer exposures?
Thanks,
sauprankul
EDIT: Also, why does CM11 record the aperture size as f/1.0? It's 2.0 right?
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I'd really like to know if I can ever go back to CM.
Hey hey people.
I got xperia Z3c few days ago, I had abrupt end to my Xperia Z's life and had to replace it with something. I am enjoying the phone feature and size wise, I really wondered where is the neck for smaller powerful phones in android marketplace. That about me and that about "I am really more or less glad with this phone"
But the same problem persists with the camera, it's quality is good only outside, and indoors the quality is worse the darker it is. I take ONLY inside photos if I ever do take photos. So I see a lot of grain and stuff with photos I get.
I am not sure if there is a thread for this but basically; tips/tricks for improving the camera quality.
Personally i want sharper and less noisy photos with low light, light bulb illuminated spaces. if there is any tricks to improving this just slightly even, I would be thankful. Camera is really the only gripe I have with the phone and I really do not take that much photos with it anyway, but whenever I do I want to get the best possible.
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Hey hey people.
I got xperia Z3c few days ago, I had abrupt end to my Xperia Z's life and had to replace it with something. I am enjoying the phone feature and size wise, I really wondered where is the neck for smaller powerful phones in android marketplace. That about me and that about "I am really more or less glad with this phone"
But the same problem persists with the camera, it's quality is good only outside, and indoors the quality is worse the darker it is. I take ONLY inside photos if I ever do take photos. So I see a lot of grain and stuff with photos I get.
I am not sure if there is a thread for this but basically; tips/tricks for improving the camera quality.
Personally i want sharper and less noisy photos with low light, light bulb illuminated spaces. if there is any tricks to improving this just slightly even, I would be thankful. Camera is really the only gripe I have with the phone and I really do not take that much photos with it anyway, but whenever I do I want to get the best possible.
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Try different camera apps and take with your time to play with the settings. When I take a picture and I have the time, I just take the picture multiple times, but with different settings each time.
You can't use AUTO mode when shooting if you want to improve the photo quality indoors. It automatically boosts the ISO too high and produces grainy, over-exposed photos. You'll have to manually adjust the ISO and exposure in Manual Mode. Play with it until you find the right combination that works for you.
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You can't use AUTO mode when shooting if you want to improve the photo quality indoors. It automatically boosts the ISO too high and produces grainy, over-exposed photos. You'll have to manually adjust the ISO and exposure in Manual Mode. Play with it until you find the right combination that works for you.
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On my old phone, a Sony Xperia P i have very good quality indoors and outdoors with auto-mode, this is on Honomi MW v8 (Z1 apps) and , with my new Z3c the indoor colors are grossly saturated in comparison to the more accurate older phone.
(i haven't tested it outdoors yet).
This is really annoying.
Hey, if you have root and Xposed you can get an xposed module called "20MP superior auto" this enables taking photos in 20MP and 15MP while in auto mode. If you are on lollipop with root you can get this UNLOCKED CAMERA, which does the exact same thing but only for lollipop
Do you think that could correct my saturation issue?. I dunno.
Did you unlock your bootloader by any chance? The proprietary algorithm is lost when you do that and it could bring about a loss of indoor photo quality.
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Hey, if you have root and Xposed you can get an xposed module called "20MP superior auto" this enables taking photos in 20MP and 15MP while in auto mode. If you are on lollipop with root you can get this UNLOCKED CAMERA, which does the exact same thing but only for lollipop
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I'm not so sure that resolution is the problem. The phone's processing algorithm simply over-sharpens the image by boosting the ISO to the point where the photo looks grainy and lacks detail.
I've tried 3rd party apps and they have given me even worse results, though not necessarily in the same way. In my experience, the stock app has performed just a little better indoors than the 3rd-party apps I've tried.
I just joined up since this is one of the more active places for ROG Phone 2 info. Can anyone give me the low down on what manual controls are available in the stock camera app (for the global variant, in case there's a difference)? I'm especially interested in the maximum shutter time, if focus peaking is available, and if there's any microphone settings for video.
I do a lot of long exposure photos and occasionally go to the local drag strip to video jet cars. My LG V20 is one of the best phones for that stuff, so I'm trying to get an idea of how this would stack up against it.
Is this what you're looking for?
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Is this what you're looking for?
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Yes, good to see that 32 sec max shutter!
Can it do manual video controls as well?
Something else I forgot to ask was about the resolution/pixel binning. Can you switch between 48MP and 12MP at will? I know some manufacturers force things like that depending on lighting conditions. Samsung and LG don't let you use the telephoto lens in dim light, even if that's what you want, hence my reason for asking.
You can switch. The 48mp picture takes a bit longer to take though so be careful as you'll end up moving the phone before the picture is done.
No video controls that I can see.
I have noticed an issue with the stock camera app in auto mode for low light situations.
My understanding is that the camera has a couple of auto detect features for low light situations.
-The generic "low light" / night scene indicator
-The tripod mode, where a small tripod icon appears when you put the camera on a surface to keep it still.
As far as I am aware, the two modes should work as follows:
- When low light is detected, and the camera is being held in hand, ISO should be prioritised and shutter speeds kept sensible to avoid motion induced blur. For example, 1/8 second, 12,800 ISO.
- When both low light and a tripod/still phone is detected, Shutter Speed should be prioritised. For example, 1 second exposure at 1600 ISO.
This is not happening for me. Tripod mode behaves exactly the same as low light mode, so even if you have the little tripod icon showing, and it's low light, shutter speed remains high and ISO at max.
I did a test scene, and, in auto mode it chose 12,800 ISO at 1/8s. In tripod and low light mode it was exactly the same. When I went into manual mode, I set the speed to 1s and 3600 ISO and got a great, sharp, and bright picture. What's going on?
Thanks.