Tilt-to-Ambient - Asus ZenWatch 3

Hey folks,
Does anyone know of a way to have the watch display in ambient mode (instead of turning fully on) when you tilt it? I find that the ambient mode is plenty bright and don't need or want it to light up fully when I just want to see the time. Any thoughts or ideas?

Nope, there is no setting for that.
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Nope, there is no setting for that.
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Heh, I'm well aware that there isn't a stock setting for that. The tenor of my question was more along the lines of an-app(or development)-for-that..

What about turning down the screen brightness, turning off the ambient, and have tilt to wake on?

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What about turning down the screen brightness, turning off the ambient, and have tilt to wake on?
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Much thanks for replying! That's an excellent thought, though the intent is to keep the auto-brightness enabled (an indispensable feature coming from the ZW2) when I WANT the screen on, but having the wake default to ambient. I've dabbled in frankensteining Android to my needs in the past, and I think I'll get back into 'devving' to make this happen. I really feel that a viable case for tilt to wake is to simply see the time at a glance, similar to the Move gestures in Android where the screen turns on in ambient mode until the screen is touched. I'll look into it (though anyone smarter than me has my money if you make it happen first )

I definitely hear what you're saying. Coming from rooting my first droid, I have a real case of nobatterphobia (great fear of running out of battery) and therefore charging issues.
Right out of the box, I was looking to find a set up that wouldn't stress me for the day with battery life. The tilt to wake, just to see the time, was a bit clumsy. I'd tilt, and wait for it to turn on. Not long, but not natural. No ambient, tilt to wake and 10 seconds for screen on would get me looking for the "ring of power" with 30-20 percent battery at around 6pm.
I thought about how many times that thing is turning on through the day at work (I'm usually at different locations, working with arms over my head, under, on a ladder, etc). Just tried full ambient, tilt off, 10 second on, and though I have to touch for interactive, time is easily seen immediately and now it's 8:15 (last 2.5 hours was pretty heavy use) and have 40% left. That'll get me easily through the night before charging when I get up at 5:30
I think I spun off topic a bit, sorry. This is my first smart watch and haven't even thought about hacking anything since Android started providing those things I was hacking for, right out of the box.
Actually, come to think of it, this is my second smart watch. The first one, also a new ZW3, didn't have any sound. ASUS warrantied it for service and either it, or a new replacement will be on my porch tomorrow.
What the heck am I going to do with two of them?

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Ambient display question

I read this demo from Droid-Life about the Ambient Display feature of the Nexus 6:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/0...-display-is-a-very-cool-take-on-moto-display/
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
So, this supposed to replace the LED notification that we all knew already.
My question: When the phone receives a notification, the display will lit on showing the notification.
That's good.
But, for how long it is displayed?
I meant, I recall with LED notification, I could see it for quite long until I noticed that I got a notification.
Will the ambient display, display the "new" notification until we "touch" the display OR interact with it?
That would be ideal.
Anyone know?
Yep, it will appear each ca. 5 seconds for ca. 2 secs until you´ve marked it as read (or until battery is empty ).
So for me it´s kind of an smarter / advanced LED replacement
Only drawback is that it only makes sense with AMOLED display (Which we know the N6 is equipped with).
So, when a new notification came in ...
The ambient display will display the notification for 2 seconds ... then OFF ... then 5 seconds later appear for 2 seconds ... then OFF ...
Repeat the above until the notification is marked as read ... or the battery has run out.
Correct?
If yes, then I think this is better!
Sorry, now I´m not 100% sure anymore as I´ve seen your linked video. I thought that Google implements it like Moto indeeds blinks as I described, but on the N6 it seems to light up only (1x) on arrival of new notifications or if you pick up the phone. Fingers crossed that N6 will get kind of a permanent blinking mode.
Android police has a nice video showing this feature. The notifications do light up periodically after they come in. Something like every 5-10 seconds until you dismiss them. Picking it up does light the ambient display as well, but they will 'pulse' on their own.
Nice, was wondering how it will work. To me better then the led.
I wonder if dynamic notifications from the play store would work better in this situation.
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I wonder if dynamic notifications from the play store would work better in this situation.
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Have you used this on an amoled screen before? I'm curious the battery usage on it.
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Have you used this on an amoled screen before? I'm curious the battery usage on it.
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This is the response I got from the developer. I've used it on my nexus 5 before and it didn't seem to make a huge impact on battery life but the nexus 5 doesn't have an amoled screen. I imagine on they nexus 6 that it would be less of a battery hog than the ambient display.
thanks for your message! The app automatically uses the low-powered motion detection chips on newer handsets. The allocation of computing tasks to low-powered processor cores is, to the best of my knowledge, performed automatically by the system depending on the situation, so I would imagine that the app does make use of them, as it is frequently in the background and doesn’t do any “heavy lifting”. The CPU/memory footprint of the app is minimal, as it doesn’t constantly query for new notifications, but is provided with them as they come in by the Android system.
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This is the response I got from the developer. I've used it on my nexus 5 before and it didn't seem to make a huge impact on battery life but the nexus 5 doesn't have an amoled screen. I imagine on they nexus 6 that it would be less of a battery hog than the ambient display.
thanks for your message! The app automatically uses the low-powered motion detection chips on newer handsets. The allocation of computing tasks to low-powered processor cores is, to the best of my knowledge, performed automatically by the system depending on the situation, so I would imagine that the app does make use of them, as it is frequently in the background and doesn’t do any “heavy lifting”. The CPU/memory footprint of the app is minimal, as it doesn’t constantly query for new notifications, but is provided with them as they come in by the Android system.
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Thanks. I'm gong to have to try this out on n7 and n5 just to see.
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Android police has a nice video showing this feature. The notifications do light up periodically after they come in. Something like every 5-10 seconds until you dismiss them. Picking it up does light the ambient display as well, but they will 'pulse' on their own.
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Can't seem to find that video
With Ambient Display turned on and NO unread notifications, does the screen still light up when the phone is picked up (because that would be bad from my point of view)?
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Half the time mine doesn't even come on when picked up.
mlapaglia said:
Mine is not breathing at all. The phone is locked and a notification comes in, it will light up the first time, but it does not appear automatically at timed intervals after that, only when you pick up the device.
Very disappointing..
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Yep, that's exactly how it works for me too! The good thing though is that it lights up 98% of the time so I don't have any major complaints about it.
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Do you not like looking at your phone and without having to interact with it know that you have a notification?
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Do you not like looking at your phone and without having to interact with it know that you have a notification?
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I have not gotten a "pulse" on it yet...it lights up when a notification comes in, and "breathes" a few times...but it seems to stop after minute or two...I don't see any settings to control this either.
I'd like to have a definitive understanding of exactly how it will function...
I did see the vid and from what i get out of it, sometimes when you pick up the phone the notification lights up, sometimes it doesnt. Not to mention, accelerometer/gyroscope sensor would need to be active at all times for ambient display to work.
A clear case of "if it isn't broken, don't f'king fix it."

[Q] Turn off wrist flick thing....?

Is there a way to turn off the flicky wrist screen on thing on my G watch R? I use the "always-on screen" feature and dont need the display to light up fully every time i look at the watch....!
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If you mute it, it turns that off. But then it is muted so I do not know if that is any good to you.
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If you mute it, it turns that off. But then it is muted so I do not know if that is any good to you.
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Well i would still like to get the notification vibration, but its a start...!!
Thanks!
Best regards/ Henke
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Well i would still like to get the notification vibration, but its a start...!!
Thanks!
Best regards/ Henke
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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ive done some playing around with screen always on / off and it really doesnt seem to make that much difference to battery 6:30am - 10:30pm and i have 50% battery left with screen always on. u might be able to get a few more % having it off but i didnt notice much difference in testing.
not sure about screen burn tho...
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Most people seem to be using always on. Why? if you list your hand to look it comes on. It will make the battery last for a shorter time and what about screen burn? I may just be overthinking this.
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I am worried about the screen burn-in issue. The phone based on the same P-OLED display technology G Flex suffers from this problem. I can see that the quality of GWaR's panel is improved but the burn in problem should exist as long as it's oled.
Another small thing I noticed is when you use stock watch faces, their always on screen content will randomly shift a little every minute, to avoid screen burn(so LG is aware of this problem). Thus worrying about the screen burn is not over-thinking. I turned off the always-on function when I use 3rd party watch faces. (EDIT: 3rd-party watch faces can shift itself too, seems like it's a system-wide screen saving mechanism)
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(EDIT: 3rd-party watch faces can shift itself too, seems like it's a system-wide screen saving mechanism)
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yes, it is - the Samsung Gear Live has the same feature - lets hope it helps in the long run...
Yeees
This is doing my head in, whats the point in an always on ambient mode, if the bloody thing turns on every time i move my arm. Pointless.
And mute it to stop it, then makes wearing it pointless?
This needs to be addressed asap!
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Is there a way to turn off the flicky wrist screen on thing on my G watch R? I use the "always-on screen" feature and dont need the display to light up fully every time i look at the watch....!
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This is doing my head in, whats the point in an always on ambient mode, if the bloody thing turns on every time i move my arm. Pointless.
And mute it to stop it, then makes wearing it pointless?
This needs to be addressed asap!
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+1
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+1
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Well, the darn thing dosn't always turn on when i look at my watch, and i like the way it looks when always on, and don't want an all black display when others look at my Beutiful watch...!!! ??
944s2power said:
Well, the darn thing dosn't always turn on when i look at my watch, and i like the way it looks when always on, and don't want an all black display when others look at my Beutiful watch...!!! ??
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LOL I think you misunderstood my post. I am in 100% agreement with both of you in that we need to be able to disable the "auto on" behavior without muting notifications.
Merely expressing my agreement...
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LOL I think you misunderstood my post. I am in 100% agreement with both of you in that we need to be able to disable the "auto on" behavior without muting notifications.
Merely expressing my agreement...
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+1 ??? Sorry for that.. Always read too quickly for my own good..!! ?
Just got my watch yesterday and this is also making me crazy... That's why I came to the forum in the first place. We need a setting to turn off the wake up movement gesture
Same thing here, it should be a fundamental control to turn this feature off. I'm a little worried about battery life on mine too, for some reason I'm just barely squeaking 24 hours on a full charge with no more than 12 notifications per day???
Patience my friends. Apparently there is a new update on the way, some lollipop for wear which has this much needed feature implemented.
More details here: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/11/android-wear-5-0-lollipop-features-revealed-smartwatch/
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Patience my friends. Apparently there is a new update on the way, some lollipop for wear which has this much needed feature implemented.
More details here: http://phandroid.com/2014/11/11/android-wear-5-0-lollipop-features-revealed-smartwatch/
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Are you referring to "Theater Mode"? That turns the screen off. We want the screen to be on but in the dim state.
I'm referring to this:

[Q] Ambient Display Randomly Turns On

What is everyone experiencing? I have a T-Mobile Nexus 6. I am running stock and not rooted. Apologies if this has already been covered, but I searched a couple of different ways and did not see anything.
Not sure what others are experiencing, but my Nexus 6 display will randomly wake into ambient mode even when I just have it sitting still on my desk or couch. There are no alerts that are driving it, so I am just wondering if others are seeing the same thing or if they have done anything with the settings to clear this issue.
I can't imagine that ambient display is a huge drain on the battery or anything, but it's not nothing. Plus it's distracting when it happens.
I've noticed mine coming on due to vibrations. I had it sitting on a minifridge next to my desk. I thought it was random too, but it turns out I was either knocking the side of my desk with my knee, or the fridge was kicking on/off.
Mine does it all the time. No movement to the phone or even around the phone. Hands no where near it. Just decides to wake up. I find the whole ambient display to be pretty annoying altogether honestly. Hoping devs can disable it and find a way to use the LED.
I saw a weird error message from LightFlow (which I installed and enabled to see what it would do). I wonder if this or other apps that are running in the background and potentially causing the screen wakes.
I will try uninstalling LighFlow to see if it improves the situation and report back with any news.
I think you might be right. I have the same problem but I didn't notice it when I first got the phone. I have installed lightflow and now that you mention it, this problem started soon after. So I just uninstalled lightflow and it already seems better.
When I installed that double tap to wake app it messed with ambient display and would turn it on, especially when the battery was low. I removed that app.
Since then I have also turned off ambient display because I found it fairly useless and feel it is using battery for very little benefit. If it flashed faster or kept flashing until I checked it I think I'd use it.
I turned it off because I had it sitting on a table with nobody touching the table and it kept coming on. I couldn't get light flow to get the light working unfortunately, hopefully there is a fix coming.
Moostafa29 said:
Mine does it all the time. No movement to the phone or even around the phone. Hands no where near it. Just decides to wake up. I find the whole ambient display to be pretty annoying altogether honestly. Hoping devs can disable it and find a way to use the LED.
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root phone, install light flow, disable ambient display.
it's already been done.
i use light flow and it works perfectly, sans flashing LED but that seems hardware/kernel blocked.
It seems that LightFlow is what was causing the issue as I haven't noticed the screen waking since uninstalling it yesterday.
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I'm definitely looking forward to getting the LED indicator working.
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High Temperature Property OFF

Do anyone know how to access this menu? I'm sick of screen dimming every 5 mins because they phone thinks it's overheating.
That feature works so well on both G2 and G3 unfortunately it's not accessible on the G4 ?
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Do anyone know how to access this menu? I'm sick of screen dimming every 5 mins because they phone thinks it's overheating.
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Go swap it my T-Mobile G4 never dims when I'm at 100% screen brightness, my phone has never hit 50°c which is extremely good considering I've had the g3 which would always be above 60°c
shook187 said:
That feature works so well on both G2 and G3 unfortunately it's not accessible on the G4 ?
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Man that sucks.
Don't know if the problem I have relates to this issue. I bought the phone today and for some reason I'm having brightness issues where I have it at 50%, it randomly dims and brightens. I tested at 100% and it would also randomly dim and brighten.
I'm afraid to exchange it and the problem would still occur in a new exchange.
This feature is turned off by default on the T-Mobile version. If you have root, you can change it using trickstermod.
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This feature is turned off by default on the T-Mobile version. If you have root, you can change it using trickstermod.
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Where is the feature under on trickster mod?
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Where is the feature under on trickster mod?
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I'm assuming its the option under "specific" on the left side drop menu.
It lists: "Temperature Throttle"
SOC Temperature limit toggle
and it's set to off.
Did this work for you? The screen dimming is getting irritating
You guys having this problem may want to look in to getting your units replaced. I drove for 3 hours a few weekends ago using navigation, screen brightness 100%, using bluetooth to stream audio while charging it, and it was on top of my dashboard in the hot South Florida direct sun light. Screen never dimmed at all.
Have you guys tried unticking the auto brightness settings?mine never dims while unticked but i usually leave it on because it saves a lot of battery

[solved] Adaptive brightness broken in pie

Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Seems like it takes a lot of time to learn. I don't use it anyway I prefer having control on it
carloandreaguilar said:
Does anyone else have this issue? Every time you lock/unlock the brightness auto adjusts again (and it adjusts pretty low)
So even if I manually set it to 100% and lock/unlock it will be down to 25% again. Doesn't seem like it's learning at all
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Seems like a bug honestly, because it goes TOO LOW. I tried to lock the device several times to see if the "learning" of the slider improves, but it still goes back to the same spot... I'm gonna keep it deactivated until they fix it.
Android Pie has AI in basically everything and it learns for you, just keep adjusting the brightness manually and in a few days it'll know how you like your brightness and adjust it for you.
I care about to go low! And now I can't go below 19% with Adaptive ON, it's to high for a dark room.
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Seems like a bug honestly, because it goes TOO LOW. I tried to lock the device several times to see if the "learning" of the slider improves, but it still goes back to the same spot... I'm gonna keep it deactivated until they fix it.
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Actually I've been reading similar things about this on the pixel so it might just be the way it is. Might take long for it to learn. I read someone say it's always fun when he first unlocks it
And I found this link of people claiming it is like this the first few days until you train it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...daptive_brightness_work_for/#thing_t1_e3yv49m
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And I found this link of people claiming it is like this the first few days until you train it better
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...daptive_brightness_work_for/#thing_t1_e3yv49m
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Yeah it could be the new implementation of the AI, I'm gonna use it for a few days to see if it gets better
This has started happening to me since yesterday. I've been using Pie for a month now (December update). What I've noticed is that it goes down to about 25% every time I cover the brightness sensor with my finger (usually when watching YT) and it stays there no matter what. It's pretty annoying having to always adjust it like that. Using "Sensors Monitor" app I see that the sensor is working correctly so it's a software "feature".
Any suggestions on how to mitigate it besides using "Velis Auto Brightness" app?
How do we know its 'AI'? Has it 'adapted' for anyone till now? That brings us tk the question, what was wrong with Auto Brightness in Oreo? Just because there's piece of code that's new, doesn't mean its versatile.
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How do we know its 'AI'? Has it 'adapted' for anyone till now? That brings us tk the question, what was wrong with Auto Brightness in Oreo? Just because there's piece of code that's new, doesn't mean its versatile.
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Three words.
Mar ket ing
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Three words.
Mar ket ing
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Yeah, and some of us would be fixing what was intentionally broke. Interesting, what would Android be without the community working as the underdog?
Oh, and AI (its Computational Intelligence) is the new cheaper, efficient corporate slave working to enslave the many.

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