Hello all, I'm a new user here and I have a question about my new amazon tablet. I know that you can't uninstall the annoying preinstalled apps through the OS alone. I know that rooting is an option, but I'd rather wait because I just got this tablet and it'd suck if I bricked it already. There's an app that I downloaded called CCleaner, and I went to an app management option in this app and it lists the preinstalled as system apps, and gives the option to uninstall them. I just want to know if it's safe too do so, that it won't brick/implode my device or make it so I can't access Amazon's features. I can send a pic of the app for reference, thanking people in advance
Neko64 said:
Hello all, I'm a new user here and I have a question about my new amazon tablet. I know that you can't uninstall the annoying preinstalled apps through the OS alone. I know that rooting is an option, but I'd rather wait because I just got this tablet and it'd suck if I bricked it already. There's an app that I downloaded called CCleaner, and I went to an app management option in this app and it lists the preinstalled as system apps, and gives the option to uninstall them. I just want to know if it's safe too do so, that it won't brick/implode my device or make it so I can't access Amazon's features. I can send a pic of the app for reference, thanking people in advance
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CCleaner is a good app. Although is says uninstall most likely it will simply disable system apps on an unrooted device as it doesn't have permissions to uninstall. Start with something benign like the Kindle app. Then move on from there, one app at a time. Good luck.
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I apologize if this has been answered earlier.
I use a stock N1 with ADW.Launcher and a bunch of other apps. I recently noticed that even when I uninstall an app from my phone, there are some directories / files that remain on the phone.
Is there any reason why these do not get deleted when the app is unistalled.
May be the same answer as installers written for windows. If the developer didn't do a good job with cleanup, you get trash leftover you need to manually clean.
i agree with both above. i found devs dont do good with uninstalling and leaving folders left behind, i wonder if there is an app that clears them?
The best way is to realize what should and shouldn't be there and manually take care of it. To write an application to clean up after 50,000+ other applications that are messy. Would be a programming nightmare and I would not want to support such an application.
or someone could make some sort of app similar to those on pc, montors what and where files are being installed to so if uninstall doesnt take em out alteast you know where to look exactly.
Edit: better yet, the app itself can uninstall everything on the users request! now that would be an app i wouldnt mind paying a good buck for.
I agree, apps itself should uninstall everything with user consent.
Also I don't think a lot of us mind taking the manual route as long as we know what to delete ..
Any way to find out what files belong to what apps?.... or is it the same as on any unix/linux platform.
thats what i was trying to say. windows has a simple app that makes a txt file of all files being installed including registery. launch the app to monitor first, install like normal. in this case, the app itself will make a database of the app then the user can use that app to delete everything catched that was installed. that would be very nice. i find myself doing google search to see where files came from and when i see i uninstalled that i have to delete it myself. this would save me lots of time. i dont really worry about it though i have a list of apps i must install and with all the froyo i keep wiping the os to try new roms. until everything is stable ill worry then but for now im good.
garryvirdi said:
I apologize if this has been answered earlier.
I use a stock N1 with ADW.Launcher and a bunch of other apps. I recently noticed that even when I uninstall an app from my phone, there are some directories / files that remain on the phone.
Is there any reason why these do not get deleted when the app is unistalled.
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do you mean the directories on the sd card?
Yes directories and files on the SD card.
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garryvirdi said:
Yes directories and files on the SD card.
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You could have data that could be reused if you decide to use the app again. Settings, preferences, keys, notes, photos etc..
I do hope that the default folder for apps defaults to something like /sdcard/appdata/ instead of the root folder /sdcard/ (unless explicitly set)
I found this in the "ICS: What's Different and New" PDF file on the HTC web site:
"You can now disable an app if you no longer want it (but are unable to uninstall it). Disabling an app removes it from All Apps and prevents it from launching. To disable an app, go to Settings > Apps > All and scroll down to the app. You will see the Disable option. Note: If you do not see a Disable option, it means that the app can either be uninstalled or is core functionality and cannot be disabled."
I have a bunch of apps that I don't use still starting up (and re-starting after I use Advanced Task Killer to stop them), and taking a lot of memory. I'm going to see if this helps.
If anything this was a very big plus to me. I don't intend on installing any 3rd party ROMs until after the warranty period and this was a huge issue for me. Seems to work very well.
brucegil said:
I have a bunch of apps that I don't use still starting up (and re-starting after I use Advanced Task Killer to stop them), and taking a lot of memory. I'm going to see if this helps.
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Well there's your problem. You're still using a non-root task killer. That's gonna hurt you more than help. Get rid of it. If you're rooted, use Autokiller Memory Optimizer if you truly run that tight on RAM. Otherwise, let the OS's improved handling of apps and services take care of it.
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brucegil said:
I found this in the "ICS: What's Different and New" PDF file on the HTC web site:
"You can now disable an app if you no longer want it (but are unable to uninstall it). Disabling an app removes it from All Apps and prevents it from launching. To disable an app, go to Settings > Apps > All and scroll down to the app. You will see the Disable option. Note: If you do not see a Disable option, it means that the app can either be uninstalled or is core functionality and cannot be disabled."
I have a bunch of apps that I don't use still starting up (and re-starting after I use Advanced Task Killer to stop them), and taking a lot of memory. I'm going to see if this helps.
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thanks for sharing
YamiYaiba said:
Well there's your problem. You're still using a non-root task killer. That's gonna hurt you more than help. Get rid of it. If you're rooted, use Autokiller Memory Optimizer if you truly run that tight on RAM. Otherwise, let the OS's improved handling of apps and services take care of it.
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Thanks for the feedback. Your last comment may be the best for now. As it turned out, I couldn't find many apps I wanted to stop that had the feature to disable. Most only allowed a force close or uninstall. I don't want to uninstall them. I just don't want them running unless I start them. Actually, I think this is partly a developer issue. Everyone thinks that their software always needs to be running in the background and polling. Not if I use it once a week -- or less.
One very nice feature of the new update is that the Carrier iQ app has been removed.
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One very nice feature of the new update is that the Carrier iQ app has been removed.
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Now, let's see if we can get them to listen to us again and return the voice dialer.
Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
kashei said:
Can anybody advice, which system apps and services absolunely safe to remove after rooting?
Or, at least, describe the functions jf system apk's?
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If i believe uninstaller for root gives a list
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it's not a problem to get a list.
the question is to get the safe list.
Im going to add a few i know are fine:
Universal search
Launcher
Polaris office
Amazon Offers
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I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps.
Freeze is a nice way of temporarily removing apps (to first see if everything keeps on working fine), but it is still dangerous because if anything really bad happens preventing a full boot, it would be impossible to run Titanium Backup again and Unfreeze the app.
Any of you had the same idea and tried experimenting a bit?
I would love getting rid of some of the Amazon system apps running in the background...
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I'm a very happy user of Titanium Backup Pro (with other phones) so I immediately installed it to my KFHD after rooting.
I'm now keen to know if anybody did the same and tried "Freezing" apps...
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Of course yes! Me too a very happy and maybe happier a bit user of Ultimate backup (Titanium played some dirty with market links).
And i've tried to freeze safe way.
But some apps like:
- Amazon device client platform,
- Amazon Web runtime
- DRM protected content storage... (I don't use any of amazon services)
I really afraid to experiment untill nandroid will be released for KFHD. That's why was the question.
Thanks. I followed you straight away.
I'm wondering now about:
- Amazon MP3
- Amazon Platform
- Amazon Video
- Audible
- Content Management Service
- IVONA TTS
These are all processes appearing as active (I use System Panel Lite) after a boot.
Anybody knows what these processes are about and if there is anything that can be safely frozen?
I would not mess with many of the Amazon applications at this moment in time.. But there are still some things that can be removed without hiccups.
what is the night android version?
I am new to this, with a B&N Nook HD+ tablet.
Let me just say, this is a terrific place with lots of knowledgeable people in Android and Nook.
I rooted my tablet, and love how it all works.
There is one nagging issue I have. It seems that B&N appeared to install 2 apps that I keep deleting, but they keep re-appearing.
Spotify and Crosswords.
I do not want these apps and wish they would stop installing themselves.
I used SQLite to set in the databases, install foreign apps, and also the other setting to not over the air, install Nook updates.
I tried to find a setting in the various databases to tell the Nook to stop installing these free apps, but cannot find it.
Does anyone know how to stop the Nook from installing these free apps?
I suspect at some point BN might install some free app automatically that might attempt to unroot this device.
Thanks,
Rob
rplourdejr said:
I am new to this, with a B&N Nook HD+ tablet.
Let me just say, this is a terrific place with lots of knowledgeable people in Android and Nook.
I rooted my tablet, and love how it all works.
There is one nagging issue I have. It seems that B&N appeared to install 2 apps that I keep deleting, but they keep re-appearing.
Spotify and Crosswords.
I do not want these apps and wish they would stop installing themselves.
I used SQLite to set in the databases, install foreign apps, and also the other setting to not over the air, install Nook updates.
I tried to find a setting in the various databases to tell the Nook to stop installing these free apps, but cannot find it.
Does anyone know how to stop the Nook from installing these free apps?
I suspect at some point BN might install some free app automatically that might attempt to unroot this device.
Thanks,
Rob
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Get the free Gemini Application Manager on Play Store and block the apps. It adds them to a database that says to ignore them. But that won't help with new apps.
Edit: Gemini gave the warning that ics might be able to override this setting. It did. The app came back. And I did what you did and could find no databases to stop it.
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Per my new announcement here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34478962#post34478962
I am closing this thread. Please follow the "Request a new forum" link, and let the staff know a board for the HD is needed.
Per the NEW announcement,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34819554#post34819554
I redeclare this thread open...
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Been meaning to track this down for years and finally got around to doing it. The sneaky app that's doing the reinstalls is com.bn.bnappinstaller
Use your app of choice to freeze this (on the off chance you want to have this bloatware factory run again in the future)
That's it, you can uninstall with wild abandon and they will never come back
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Been meaning to track this down for years and finally got around to doing it. The sneaky app that's doing the reinstalls is com.bn.bnappinstaller
Use your app of choice to freeze this (on the off chance you want to have this bloatware factory run again in the future)
That's it, you can uninstall with wild abandon and they will never come back
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I was relieved to find this because my husband's HD is "running in the red" because of apps like Spotify, Hulu+, etc., which come unbidden "from the cloud". He'd like to have room for apps of his own choosing (not to mention space for the OS to do its thing...).
But....I tried this and it didn't work. They are back again
Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
morgonhed said:
Hi,
I have a Fire 7 that I downgraded to 54.0 and debloated and therefore I lost the Amazon Prime Video App which I would lilke to have, so I proably do a factory-reset and go through the process again - but this time try to do it in a way that I'll still have App.
I have been using the procedure outlined in another thread that debloats by running "adb uninstall -k" over the packages.
The "-k" switch keeps the cache and data-directories around and I believe this is what prevents the app from reinstalling.
So my first question is: Why is it done this way? Not using the -k-switch would as far as I understand it also get rid of these directories so in theory if I would uninstall the Video App without this switch I could then later re-install it via the Google-Playstore (that I've put on), right?
Another way would be not to uninstall it at all and simply keep it but then I would also need to keep the Amazon Appstore around so I could later update it. Or would I need to keep even more apps for the Video-app to function properly?
I assume it would be quite possible to have both the Amazon-Appstore and Google Playstore on one device (at the moment I also have Playstore and F-Droid) or would that run into some problem?
If both options (keeping the app or deleting it and reinstalling it via the Playstore) would be viable, which one would you prefer?
Many thanks!
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If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
Davey126 said:
If you target a privileged app/component on an unrooted ROM you will not be able to reinstall the same item (package ID) sans factory reset or other means of writing to the system partition. Do yourself a favor and focus on the handful of apps that account for the majority of unwanted behavior and leave the rest alone.
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The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
lakitu47 said:
The thing is, the Amazon Video and Appstore apps are part of that handful, as battery monitoring and packet capturing apps prove. On registered devices, both are constantly running in the background, eating up precious RAM and battery, and sending data back to Amazon.
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Correct. As are equivalent Google components on standard (non-Amazon) devices rocking vendor tweaked Android. Everyone has to find their personal Zen when it comes to managing their electronic devices. Amazon is heavy handed which I why I only utilize their hardware if it is capable of hosting an alternative ROM (eg: 2nd gen HD, 3rd gen HDX, early 5th gen Fire). Ultimate goal is to maximize use and minimize maintenance. Which is why I recommended a lite touch when going after Amazon apps/services via 'adb uninstall'. Make a mistake and you have to start all over. Ugh.
Thanks for the response.
I did some experiments and indeed, even if you delete the Prime-App without "-k" you are not able to reinstall it from the playstore.
So in the end I kept a few preinstalled apps (Prime, Shopping-app, Appstore) and deleted the rest without "-k".
I now have Amazon Appstore (that I only kept so I could later update the Prime-App), Google Playstore and F-Droid on one device without problems.