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[Q] Activate band 20 on xt1058

Hi,
I recently purchased a new xt1058 on ebay, it's the US model i belive, but LTE doesn't work in france.
xt1058 have 2/4/5/7/17 bands activated and LTE in france is 20.
Is there any way to change that ? Can I switch modem files from xt1052 rom (EU version) ?
I'm running kk 4.4.4 212.44.26.ghost_row.RCI.en.CA version.
Thanks!

According to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Europe
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.

Emiliano55 said:
France carriers also use band 7 (along with 20). So if you have the proper carrier, you should be fine.
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I think the problem is that LTE on band 7 is only on 2600MHz, only band 20 use 800MHz in France

There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.

Emiliano55 said:
There are 2 different bands mate. One is 2600mhz and the other is 800Mhz. According to Wiki, there are carriers in France that uses 2600Mhz as frecuency for LTE. If that's the case, you should be fine. Look at the link I pasted before.
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The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.

Thibzzz said:
The problem is the moto x use only 850/900/1900/2100 frequencies , not 2600 MHz.
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Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17 (look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_(1st_generation)#Variants)
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.

Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too

dagoban said:
Many carriers in the EU use band 20 in most cities, the official reason is, band 20 covers more area and only band 7 is used in cluster areas, such as football stadiums, airports, central train stations etc.
At least thats what the German carriers say.
So its mainly an economic decision to use band 20 for regular urban areas and only use band 7 (which doesn't cover so much km²) in the cluster areas.
There is a user who is currently editing some files to enable software wise other LTE frequencies for the Droid, have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-conquers-europe-t2995343/page3
This however, will only enable the LTE bands software wise, it hasn't been tested yet, if the LTE works then in the EU for band 20 or if its a hardware limitation or if you need to flash the EU modem, too
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I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.

sanez said:
I tried to enable bands 3,7 and 20 on my XT1053 and it didn't work for me.
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What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?

dagoban said:
What exactly did you try? Flashing the other radio / modem file or by unlocking it in the software or both?
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I have since months xt1052 fw with 1053 radio and this allowed me to have Italian language and 3G/H+ working fine. xt1052 radio don't work at all on US devices.
Tried last week to enable bands modifying NV strings via QXDM but there's not effect. GSM and WCDMA are good, but no LTE. I guess is hw limitation, or some other NV items must be changed to get it working.

Emiliano55 said:
Those are the 3G bands that the Moto X supports. Not LTE bands. You are confusing things here.
XT1058 uses LTE bands 2/4/5/7/17
Hence, it uses 1900/1700/850/2600/700.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification
By the way, there is a nice wiki who talks about french LTE bands, and according to it, band 7 @2600Mhz is used by 3 carriers, including mine, but no LTE on my moto x...
As Dagoban said, carriers must mainly use band 20 @800mhz to cover large areas.

Oneplus 3T A3000 - US model in Europe

Hello,
I am an American going to study abroad in Prague over the next year. I currently have the North American model and was wondering if I needed to buy a new phone for the correct LTE bands, since I plan on traveling around Europe. I have used the site WillMyPhoneWork and found that 2 of the major 3 telecom providers, T-Mobile and Vodafone, support bands 1 (2100MHz) and 7 (2600MHz). However, I am missing band 20.
If anyone could help with the 2 questions I have, it would greatly help.
1) Should I expect reliable coverage, in the Czech Republic and other EU countries?
2) Am I able to lock my phone to a specific LTE/4G band, and would this solve my problem (or have downsides)?
Thanks for any responses.

As you have said, it depends on the country.
As long as other LTE bands are available you should be fine and also you can always use 3G.
As far as I know, you can't lock to a.specific band, but you can select to lock only on 3G bands, if that will be convenient for you.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted

You can also enable band 3 on the US model, I get 80% LTE with it here in EU.

India 3T - 4G/LTE not working in US

Hi,
I bought an one plus 3T in india and brought it to US. I'm getting only E not even 3G. When I enquired in T mobile/lyca store, i was told that india unlocked mobile won't support the US bands. Network upgraded. It was big surprise to me. Please suggest me how to unblock additional LTE bands in my 3T mobile.

That's not possible, you should trade your 3t A3003 for a 3t A3000 American band-unlocked model.
Check the specifications for each model under connectivity.
https://oneplus.net/us/3t/specs

Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.

thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
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thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.

smokin901 said:
India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
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bonham1988 said:
Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.

thes3usa said:
Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).

redpoint73 said:
Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
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Talk about synchronicity eh? But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity? In the blind about these stuff, coming from a country that has only one carrier out of five who is still beta testing VoLTE.

thes3usa said:
But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity?
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Not an expert, and had to Google that. From what I'm reading, lower frequency (MHz) has better penetration (through buildings, etc.) while higher frequency bands have higher data capacity.

There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol

pk-air said:
Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.

pk-air said:
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.

thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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No you can't switch but you can unlock some bands which might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
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pitrus- said:
There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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as I said I dont see any reason for it to work

thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.

redpoint73 said:
At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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Why aren't all bands just enabled by default then? I don't understand why there are different models for different regions.
I have a US OP3T and I'm visiting India. It''s working with Jio in India (although it supports only only of the 3 bands used by Jio) but VoLTE doesn't work for some reason.

Will K20 Pro work in NZ?

I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks

NZ Razer said:
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
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The K20 Pro does not have global network bands. Where it's sold with a global ROM, these are unofficial global ROMs, they do not and cannot add extra lte bands.
The Mi 9T, as well as coming with an official global ROM also had a few extra lte bands unlocked. The Mi 9T Pro will do the same, when it eventually arrives.
Looking at your carrier, it uses bands 3, 7 and 28 (maybe 40 too, but could have been a different NZ carrier). The K20 Pro is missing band 28.
Band 28 is a relatively low frequency band, these can travel further and penetrate obstacles better, before losing significant signal strength and quality. Quite often the low frequency bands are used in rural areas, where masts are spread widely, or major city centres that are very heavily built up.
NZ is a very sparsely populated country, so it's possible band 28 is heavily relied on outside of the town's and cities. But this is only my slightly educated guess. I would suggest doing some more homework on how much of the 2Degree network relies on band 28.
I imagine in and around towns and cities you'll have very little issues, but that's a small percent of the country.
Assuming the Mi 9T Pro will have the same bands as the Mi 9T, then it will come with band 28

Robbo.5000 said:
The K20 Pro does not have global network bands. Where it's sold with a global ROM, these are unofficial global ROMs, they do not and cannot add extra lte bands.
The Mi 9T, as well as coming with an official global ROM also had a few extra lte bands unlocked. The Mi 9T Pro will do the same, when it eventually arrives.
Looking at your carrier, it uses bands 3, 7 and 28 (maybe 40 too, but could have been a different NZ carrier). The K20 Pro is missing band 28.
Band 28 is a relatively low frequency band, these can travel further and penetrate obstacles better, before losing significant signal strength and quality. Quite often the low frequency bands are used in rural areas, where masts are spread widely, or major city centres that are very heavily built up.
NZ is a very sparsely populated country, so it's possible band 28 is heavily relied on outside of the town's and cities. But this is only my slightly educated guess. I would suggest doing some more homework on how much of the 2Degree network relies on band 28.
I imagine in and around towns and cities you'll have very little issues, but that's a small percent of the country.
Assuming the Mi 9T Pro will have the same bands as the Mi 9T, then it will come with band 28
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It says that 2degrees doesn't use B28, only other carriers in NZ. So that would mean its safe to assume it would work?
Thanks

NZ Razer said:
It says that 2degrees doesn't use B28, only other carriers in NZ. So that would mean its safe to assume it would work?
Thanks
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I checked on Wikipedia, however I was looking at the bands for Spark by mistake. 2Degrees uses 3, 8 and 28.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks?wprov=sfla1
Band 8 is on the K20 Pro and is also a low frequency band. So it could well be that it will work OK. However it is showing that band 8 was added to the 2Degrees network only last year, so might still be wise to see if you can find out how widespread band 8 is used on their network.
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A bit more reading. The 2Degree website FAQs confirms it uses the above 3 bands. Band 8 was previously used for their 2G network, but was freed up when they turned off 2G, which allowed them to use it for LTE. Maybe that will mean it's use is widespread.

I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net

NZ Razer said:
I'm a bit confused, they are going on about the 9t Pro coming out for Global market, but on Aliexpress there is a K20 Pro with 'Global Rom'.
If i was to buy one of these would it not work in New Zealand? I'm really keen on getting this phone but not sure what to buy.
According to this, it works perfectly with my provider 2Degrees
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-redmi-855
Thanks
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Not sure about NZ, but in Australia it works. I'm with ALDI mobile which I guess is Telstra.

billybrownbear said:
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
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Vladimir Lenin said:
Not sure about NZ, but in Australia it works. I'm with ALDI mobile which I guess is Telstra.
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I've gone ahead and purchased it as of an hour ago excited to get my hands on it, this makes me even more confident as your bands are the same pretty much. Can't wait!

billybrownbear said:
I'm not sure about nz but it works perfectly fine here in Australia. The only band we use in Aus that it's missing is B20 which is very common. But fortunately if you're with Telstra in Aus they don't have any areas that only run on B20 so there's always something for me to connect to. I also live in a rural area.
So my advice is to check different areas all over nz to see what they support. I used a site called cellmapper to do this https://www.cellmapper.net
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Australia use band 28, not 20.

Global version and chinese version are using same 4G bands so there won't be any problems.
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Question Difference Between Versions

Hello All,
I do often travel around the world. Thats the reason why i choose the OnePlus Nord CE model (the Website promote to support a lot of LTE Bands).
Now I read, that OnePlus disable some LTE Bands for the area outside you live.
I've the EB13BA (EU) model.
Which LTE Bands are supported with that model?
Is it possible to unlock the other Bands?
Will the install of the Global Firmware, unlock the LTE Bands?
Thank you an best regards.

timbach12 said:
Hello All,
I do often travel around the world. Thats the reason why i choose the OnePlus Nord CE model (the Website promote to support a lot of LTE Bands).
Now I read, that OnePlus disable some LTE Bands for the area outside you live.
I've the EB13BA (EU) model.
Which LTE Bands are supported with that model?
Is it possible to unlock the other Bands?
Will the install of the Global Firmware, unlock the LTE Bands?
Thank you an best regards.
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A prepaid SIM such as "SIM2Fly", which is used temporarily when traveling, will probably work fine.
By the way, my "EB13AA" is
Gsm: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Wcdma: v1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE-FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28/66
LTE-TDD: B38/39/40/41
The number of bands is very wide, so the question is probably whether you need "VoLTE" or not.
For Japanese carrier SIMs, many are "VoLTE", so this phone without it enabled will be a Wi-fi only device.
In fact I have been working on that problem for a very long time, and I was able to turn it on only when the OS was "11.0.1.1.EB13AA", but all later OSes were impossible.
There is a bias in the OS files available, and "11.0.1.1.EB13AA" is not currently available on the Internet.

hy, thank you for your reply. I downloaded the 11.0.1.1.EB13AA version on the OnePlus site. But im not sure if it will unlock other LTE Bands. As i say i have the European and not the Global version. Is there a diffrent between a travel SIM and a native SIM?

timbach12 said:
hy, thank you for your reply. I downloaded the 11.0.1.1.EB13AA version on the OnePlus site. But im not sure if it will unlock other LTE Bands. As i say i have the European and not the Global version. Is there a diffrent between a travel SIM and a native SIM?
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In most cases, a travel SIM can be plugged into a device to get a signal and use it.
I don't know the specifics of the SIM, but the travel SIM should cover the common LTE bands.
And
OnePlus will disable some LTE bands in the area outside where you live.
Even if this is true, it should not disable common LTE bands in the world, such as B3/B20.
This is mostly speculation, but I hope it helps.
If you are unsure, it is fun to flash globalROM boldly.