Any one else struggling with the Knuckle gestures? I find it very challenging to get it right, I wonder if there is a trick or something!
Give it a good whack!
I'm using it really often for screenshots - they're working great for me.
But one thing I want to have with this gestures is to enable the navbar.
The reason for that is, I wear gloves at work and can't go back to home with them, because the finger print sensor doesn't recognize my finger with glove.
I don't know still not able to get it work consistently specially splitting the screen in apps that has side sliding pages!!
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Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
Koush said:
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool
Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!
What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !
Just give it a small kick upwards
Dont let this topic die?
I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?
I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur
Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.
YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss
Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!
A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur
Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.
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This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur
i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.
I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!
CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.
I am looking for some finger gesture software that I can use on my Touch pro. I have lost my 3rd stylus (waiting for more to be delivered) and I would like to be able to use the pocketpc in a more user friendly way.
Any suggestions?
Put the stylus back into the phone when you're done with it!
Funny....The stylus keeps falling out.
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Funny....The stylus keeps falling out.
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ftouchsl the best out there
Isn't the stylus magnetic...and come with a spare?
You know its funny the stylus on the screen is much more accurate on my titan, however, on my touch pro I feel like the stylus is just for soft resets. It doesn't work well on the tpro for some reason. But the finger navigation is so much more exceptional on the tpro that it isn't really necessary.
Hi Guys,
Just a quick one, has anyone found a way to calibrate the screen as I find that when trying to select text and stuff the cursor is way off my finger and it's a tad difficult.
Is there anyway to run a calibration like you used to have to do for WM Devices that used a stylus???
Thanks.
Jamie
I have the same problem but i am putting it down to the first time i have used a touch screen like this (had Touch HD last)
I actually think it's designed that way, ie so you can see where you are placing the cursor rather than having to guess where your finger is over which piece of text you are trying to alter, if you watch when you place your finger the cursor appears above your finger which makes it a lot easier to position in a bunch of text.
IMO it's a neat solution to not having a track ball for easy positioning for editing text.
To confirm - it is designed that way
That's fine and now you mention it, it does make sense, thought it was just me that's all lol Actually quite like it now I'm getting used to it. Used to be tricky to do this on iPhone as my finger covered up the word lol
I have to say I loled a bit when I read this, you can even see the cursor pop up from under your finger
So I've been using SwiftKey on all my devices, and it has a swipe-to-the-left-to-delete option, and a swipe down to hide option. On all my past devices that works just fine. On the S6 Edge I just bought however, I have to swipe my finger as fast as humanly possible, or else it just thinks I'm leisurely dragging my finger around and doesn't log a swipe motion. Anyone else notice anything similar?
Hi there!
I want to know if you prefer to use gestures or buttons on your daily use and why.
Personally I found buttons more easy to use, but now I'm using gestures and, with a bit of familiarity I can say they are better (and system is more beauty without the 3 buttons)
I agree : what the point of having a large full screen... if you still have a range of buttons at the bottom that "cut" the screen ? I'm now used to navigate with Miui gestures and do not want to come back to the older way by any means !
gestures for ever ! ;o))
I've tried both and I can't really pick one. I keep going back and forth.. I agree I feel like the buttons are really old in Android and gestures a much better for big full screen smartphones like the RN7 but I guess time will tell which I'll end up using daily.
From the moment I tried the MIUI gesture system, I don't want to go back to anything else, it's just too good. Thankfully, I can emulate them in like 95% on other ROMs thanks to Fluid N.G.
I still prefer buttons.
I'm a bit faster with them and i use the press and hold functions (torch etc.)
A clean fullscreen is more pretty, no doubt.
But on a 19.5:9 screen, i don't care if i lose that 1cm at the bottom.
I got used to the one button nav from my previous Moto g5 plus. So I enabled full screen gestures day one after getting the note 7. It's better than the soft buttons and easier to navigate around on this tall screen.
Gestures all the way, it really makes you feel better with 6.x screens, fluid and easy to learn
gestures exclusively. When I received a blackberry Z30 for my job in 2014, I really loved the gestures they implemented. It allowed for a smaller chin and more screen real estate. Ever since then I had to go "back" to regular buttons when they upgraded me to an android phone and when I switched to android privately, and it felt like a step back.
Now that we have those full body phones, using gestures feels great again.
I'm old and I don't like change anymore. Buttons for me.
I tried gestures, but it's hard to use gestures with a decent case. Not only that, some apps have native gesture stuff in them and somehow those override the MIUI gestures. I went back to the buttons after few hours.
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I tried gestures, but it's hard to use gestures with a decent case. Not only that, some apps have native gesture stuff in them and somehow those override the MIUI gestures. I went back to the buttons after few hours.
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+1. For example, telegram. I prefer buttons for now
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I'm old and I don't like change anymore. Buttons for me.
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haha, same here.
However, I also have gestures, loads of them, using Gesture Control. I still like the phone buttons to be present, and Gesture Control over MIUI's own gestures which are just too elementary, too limited.
Tried gestures. Didn't like. Went back to buttons. Maybe Android 10 or MIUI will improve things, but I'm staying with buttons for now.
Gestures. More real estate and actually I find it easier to navigate with gestures.
I am using gestures for 3 months now,only thing buttons are better for me is double tap to go to previous app is faster and I find it easier to start multitasking by just holding one button and picking 2nd app, then swipe and hold,then press and hold and click again then choose 2nd app.