Hi all, will this phone work on ATT and or Cricket? Is it a GSM phone? Will it get 4G if so? Thanks!!!
i have the mix on Cricket since December, it's on H+ most of the time and some times 4g depends on your location I guess, so it works on cricket and I'm not complaining on internet speed
vvette said:
Hi all, will this phone work on ATT and or Cricket? Is it a GSM phone? Will it get 4G if so? Thanks!!!
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I use it on Straight Talk (the AT&T sim). I live in Springfield Missouri and normally get LTE everywhere I go. The only real issue I have is when I do happen to lose LTE (receive/make a phone call, lose LTE in one particular room at my work, etc) it will stay on H+/3G until I go into settings and toggle between 3G then back to LTE again. Sucks, but not that big a deal since Straight Talk basically caps speed around 7-10 megs and H+/3G pretty much handles that speed anyway. But I haven't really had that many issues.
Mine is on Cricket and running fine in the Des Moines, IA area. I have a few hiccups here and there, but nothing drastic.
I have it with Att and works great always on Lte (tucson,Az). I get the hd voice and video calling as well. Only complain is I cant wait for mix 2 lol.
Straight talk ATT sim LTE all the time I live south of Chicago
jaime4272 said:
i have the mix on Cricket since December, it's on H+ most of the time and some times 4g depends on your location I guess, so it works on cricket and I'm not complaining on internet speed
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How did you make that work ? i have a doogee mix FOB from chinaland and a cricket sim in it but it keeps saying no data at all any help please ?
spydergt said:
How did you make that work ? i have a doogee mix FOB from chinaland and a cricket sim in it but it keeps saying no data at all any help please ?
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Did you cheap apn settings?
yea
yea i even took it into a cricket store and had a csr check it , the apn settings are all correct, the sim card works , i put it into a tablet i had from a while ago with a data card , it works , the tablet has 4g data , but if i put that sim card into the doogee mix , nothing , im gonna attempt to return the phone since i cant use it
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hi:
guy in att store told me that my old sim card wont fully utilize 3g ..
i have to upgrade to new card..
is this true?
thanx
it would help you to use a 3g phone. u do need a 3g sim card
jayjay8585 said:
it would help you to use a 3g phone. u do need a 3g sim card
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what does this even mean, seriously?
of course im on a 3g tilt.. why else would i ask here?
the question is 3g utilization capabilities..
i was using old card and its still waay faster than neighbor's t-mobile card..
i would like someone who knows what im talking about and what they're talking about to gimme solid opinion..
thanx
it varies from operator to operator as in some have been giving 3g cable sims to 2g suscribers for ages as having 2 types of sims is bothersome and expensive for many operators
i would ask my operator
3g to 2g phones is no prob.. thats obvious..all new phones have em whether they need it or not..
i dont believe att just cuz they say something. (that i need it)
they lie all the time-- they all do..
what youre saying is that you dont really know answer to my orig question..
AGAIN :: i ask cuz my tilt is faster w/my old card than w/t-mobile card....
thanx for the replies but i just wanna hear from someone who knows..
tahnx again
I got a 10 year old sim card that does 3g just fine...
i believe yaz..
i do wish i could find perfect answer on google or somethin.. my sim is 9y/o.
no one i know is even on att for me to compare sims..
so many on gay t-mobile
thanx
You're getting two speeds because 3G is just rolling out from T-mobile. ATT has had 3G for awhile and are evn rolling out HSDPA in some areas. Do you need a 3G sim from ATT, probably not. But thats the reason youre getting two speeds.
Well with your old sim do you see an E or a 3G for the type of signal? Tmobile no matter what will have the E for edge
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Well with your old sim do you see an E or a 3G for the type of signal? Tmobile no matter what will have the E for edge
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the att guy said that just because i see the 3g icon, doesnt mean im getting 3g speeds.. if my sim aint 3g, im not getting 3g..
this is what i question...
I didnt get a 3G sim card until recently when i had an issue where I needed a new sim.. i got speeds on both about the same. One was a 3G sim and the other wasnt. Sounds like your ATT rep is full of S**T
Well can always check out http://http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?t=4&s=100&r=8603&w. Anything over 300k is considered 3g. Just use PIE for it though. Opera doesnt do it correctly
I had to get a new sim from o2 before i got 3g speeds
Thats correct...If you have a 2G sim, you can only connect to GPRS or EDGE platforms.
To get 3G or HSDPA, you will need a 3g SIM...
sij,, how do you know.. is it just a guess?
are you saying that : even when the 3g icon changes, it doesnt mean anything?
it might stand to reason that full utilization of the 3g network needs a new card, that doesnt mean that its absolutely necessary..
sqwhatever-- i bought one from ebay for 3.50 shipped..
for reasons not even relating to this..
if there is a difference, i will see it immediately.
thanx
I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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this has been asked before and it seems to have something to do with how new your sim card is...mine didnt have to be changed but provisioned for lte
and some have had to have theirs replaced.. here is the thread that it was it was talked about in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420310
hope you find what you was looking for
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I just got an HTC Vivid in the mail today and i have an old Cingular Sim card that's capable of achieving the H+ technology in for example the htc inspire. Now since i live in Portland and there is no LTE yet only H+ why when i put my card in it will make and receive calls and texts but not let me connect to data. Note this is stock ics that the phone was shipped with.
My question is why cant my old Sim work if it can use H+ on my inspire but not on my vivid and also whats different about the newer Sim's then older ones?
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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The Vivid defaults to using the pta APN. The old SIM cannot connect to pta. You can manually make a legacy APN for wap.cingular or phone which will let you connect, but that's inadvisable.
I'd presume that the reason that a new SIM is required is because you're moving from a 3G technology to a 3-4G bridge technology. I don't know if you have the original Cingular GSM "64k SmartChip", but I had to upgrade that when I first got a 3G enabled phone.
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oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
I had that one, they gave me a new SIM at Best Buy.
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Yeah. It doesn't cost anything to get a new SIM. I had to get one for my daughter's phone.
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oh i see yea i actually had the Cingular raising the bar one with the orange man logo on it also had blue orange and white color and it shows a 3G in flames. is that the original one?
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No, that's a 3G-enabled SIM card. It works on UMTS and HSPA, unlike the 64K SmartChip (the GSM SIM) that I had from when EDGE was the best thing since sliced bread. That's why you never needed to upgrade your SIM when faux-G hit on the Inspire.
When I upgraded to the SYNC (see sig), that was right before Cingular was bought by ATT. I had to get a new SIM at that point, and they gave me the one you describe. I had to get another one when I got the Shine, as the contacts on it had corroded (or something; the card refused to read); that time, I got one that said AT&T on it (it was a palette swap of the Cingular card). I was still forced to upgrade yet again when I got the Vivid.
im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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im just going out on a limb here, but i would say it has to do with the apn settings since you have an old cingular sim in a new phone im guessing the apn has been updated for new technology advancements
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APN settings are stored in the ROM, not the SIM. The SIM authenticates you with the APNs that it is provisioned for.
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; the OTA updates on the Inspire wanted to make you feel like you were part of the fastest network At&t had to offer at the time. So if you didn't have a 3G sim, you were robbing yourself on speed capabilities, maybe barely but none-the-less. But Cingular SIM cards can only connect to 3G speeds at max. In other words, you're at the max speed for 3G which prompted the phone to display an H+ icon. The Vivid is an LTE capable phone and needs a SIM card with LTE capabilities in order for data to work, even though the new SIMs will also work on 3G, but not the other way around on cingular sims. Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Your explanation wasn't confusing IMO. Their rationale is just plain stupid.
Gotta love America and its false advertising.
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I see what you mean everyone yea i actually went in the other day to a store and got a new one for LTE even though there is no LTE in Oregon yet. But i do understand because i did use my Cingular Sim in my vivid and calling/texting did work fine just the data did not work so pretty much for faster internet you need a Sim card that can be provisioned for LTE is what im hearing. Also for the newer tech you need a new one
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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maddie01 said:
You can add another APN setting very easily until you can get a new LTE provishoned SIM....THE NEW APN will give you 2g, 3g, HSPA+, Text and Voice....then when you get the new LTE Sim...you can go back and set it to the APN that is named pta....
Let me know by replying if you need the settings for the wap.congular APN and I will post...
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Well you should post it just for anyone who needs it. I actually got an LTE Sim not to long ago so im good on that front.
Thanks!!!
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I work for At&t, they lie about their data speeds. So basically, the phone might display H+ when your signal is really strong on 3G networks; ..........................................................................................
Oddly enough, you will see a 4G icon when you're maxed out on HSDPA even though you may not be on true LTE networks...as is the case where I live. Hope this wasn't too confusing
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Thanks for telling us what many of us probably suspected. I have always thought that most of what we are told is just "marketing hype" until proven otherwise. Much like the burger commercials tha make the subject look soooo tantalizing and huge when in fact it might taste great but is not THAT large.
It is nice to have someone on the inside share "reality" with us!!!
I have a vivid that I've been through hard times with. Went crazy for ics and bricked it for half a month. Then switched to iPhone.. now back to vivid with ics but no LTE. Originally the problem was that I had iPhone imei on the account but not anymore. Just doesn't work unless I use alternate apn settings. Any ideas?
richard head said:
I have a vivid that I've been through hard times with. Went crazy for ics and bricked it for half a month. Then switched to iPhone.. now back to vivid with ics but no LTE. Originally the problem was that I had iPhone imei on the account but not anymore. Just doesn't work unless I use alternate apn settings. Any ideas?
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It is likely that you will have to manually setup the AT&T PTA apn (assuming you are with att as you mentioned Vivid and not Raider). The apn is usually the cause for the problem that you mentioned. Do a search in the forum and it will give you the apn settings that you need.
So I did add the PTA and LTE apps. I'm on stock Rom, ics, AT&T. And no LTE. Still. All I can use is hspa+ .
I'm kind of surprised nobody else has this problem. Stock Rom seems full of bugs to me.
I had this problem before. All I did was set up the at&t apn. Applied then turned on airplane mode then wait a little, turn it off. That didnt work the first time so I restarted. Are you in a LTE area?
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yeah dfw. I.will try doing a battery pull.
Did it work?
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same issue
I actually just bought my Vivid as well from eBay (supposedly new) and it came preloaded with ICS. I wasn't able to get any kind of internet connection with my old Atrix sim even though it showed 4G in the notification bar.
I went to an at&t store and they gave me a new sim and now the internet works but i'm definitely not getting the 4g lte icon or speeds of that nature via speedtest app.
I've tried both airplane mode and pulling the battery, with no results. I'm thinking of doing a hard reset now. *sigh*
richard head said:
I have a vivid that I've been through hard times with. Went crazy for ics and bricked it for half a month. Then switched to iPhone.. now back to vivid with ics but no LTE. Originally the problem was that I had iPhone imei on the account but not anymore. Just doesn't work unless I use alternate apn settings. Any ideas?
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Are you in an area where lte is being offered?
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And just to update, a hard reset didn't do anything.
I'm in San Francisco by the way. What's funny is that when i looked at the demo phone inside the at&t store, the icon for LTE wasn't on that screen either. That phone was running ICS as well.
aballz said:
And just to update, a hard reset didn't do anything.
I'm in San Francisco by the way. What's funny is that when i looked at the demo phone inside the at&t store, the icon for LTE wasn't on that screen either. That phone was running ICS as well.
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Mine came with ICS & showed 4g lte when it is in range. you do need to have an LTE data plan for the apn to work to connect you up with LTE. I figured that one out the hard way. Call them up or browse online for the LTE dataplan of your liking.
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And just to update, a hard reset didn't do anything.
I'm in San Francisco by the way. What's funny is that when i looked at the demo phone inside the at&t store, the icon for LTE wasn't on that screen either. That phone was running ICS as well.
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I'm also in the bay area as well, within 2 miles of a LTE signal tower. Did you get a new SIM card when you got your Vivid? Because when I went to an AT&T store to upgrade my phone to Vivid, they had to give me a new SIM, because it was running LTE and that would not work if you have an older SIM, which at the time I had. So make sure you asked them for a new SIM card!
Never mind, just re-read the above post, you got a new SIM card. Sometimes it would happen for any kind of reason, I would just walk back into the AT&T store and ask for a new SIM or new Vivid
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Mine came with ICS & showed 4g lte when it is in range. you do need to have an LTE data plan for the apn to work to connect you up with LTE. I figured that one out the hard way. Call them up or browse online for the LTE dataplan of your liking.
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Yes, make sure you do have LTE specific data plan, as older data plans while work, will not allow you to connect to LTE data.
Make sure they gave you an LTE sim and that switch over the IMEI because my brothers had the same issue
I tried searching quite a bit but couldn't find the answer, so here it is...
I was going to buy a used Vivid, but when I put my own sim (AT&T GS2 i777) in the Vivid, it has no network connection. The seller said that that might be because AT&T needs to turn on LTE for me before that can be done. However, that doesn't quite make sense to me: I upgraded from iphone 3G to the GS2, and AT&T kept bothering me about not getting 4G even though I have a 4G phone for the first 2 weeks. I brought it back to the store and they straightened it out. My point is, the network worked before that, just not at HSPA speed probably, but it worked. Yet when I put my sim in the Vivid, I get no network connection at all. Is there no fall back?
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I tried searching quite a bit but couldn't find the answer, so here it is...
I was going to buy a used Vivid, but when I put my own sim (AT&T GS2 i777) in the Vivid, it has no network connection. The seller said that that might be because AT&T needs to turn on LTE for me before that can be done. However, that doesn't quite make sense to me: I upgraded from iphone 3G to the GS2, and AT&T kept bothering me about not getting 4G even though I have a 4G phone for the first 2 weeks. I brought it back to the store and they straightened it out. My point is, the network worked before that, just not at HSPA speed probably, but it worked. Yet when I put my sim in the Vivid, I get no network connection at all. Is there no fall back?
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It's cause you are using LTE (pta) apns...you have two options
1) use legacy apns...can be found in the stickies "general knowledge" thread
2) call att and tell them you would like to enable LTE on your line...it won't change your plan and you won't get charged extra...everything stays the same except they enable LTE for you (I did this option...so I know from expierence)
The galaxy s2 didn't have real 4g it had hspa+, the vivid has real 4glte
I suggest doin the second option so you can enjoy the speeds of true 4g LTE (I get 23mb down and 8mbs up...)
If after having LTE it still doesn't work then your sim is probably incompatible...just go to the att store and ask for an LTE sim...they will give it to you for free
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Hi everyone, my network has recently upgraded and has LTE sim cards available. I know the n7000 is not a LTE device but is there any benefit to using the LTE card? Just curious as it is a microsim and I would need to get a sim adapter to work in the n7000.
Thank you for any insight!
Since the Note doesnt support LTE, i very much doubt the "LTE" sim card will make any difference.
But if they are being offered to you for free, take it. its not gonna make your phone self-destruct or anything
my friend has an lte phone. the intenet is very fast but he said he wouldnt buy again an lte phone because its unnecessary.
well when i run it with basic settings its ok but when i add the att pta settings to mine it does run much faster.... you do have to have att's system thinking you have an att note and not the international one. might not be lte speed but mine goes pretty fast...
if you get an LTE sim card in Note 1, you are cued up to get LTE service when you switch your phone to an LTE phone.
I'm thinking of getting one. $9 for the card, I cue myself up for LTE when I get an LTE capable phone. In the meantime, I still get the same quota of 6gb for the same price but now I have LTE.
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well when i run it with basic settings its ok but when i add the att pta settings to mine it does run much faster.... you do have to have att's system thinking you have an att note and not the international one. might not be lte speed but mine goes pretty fast...
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What speed do you get? I get on average 11-12mbs on hsdpa +. More than happy.
from the man hiding in your attic....
Where are you and what carrier to get 11mbps on HSPA+? Im in UK on 3 and get 8.
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a little story from my country, in Indonesia, if we not in big city, like jakarta, yogyakarta, or bali, it's only get EDGE signal man, it's suck(sorry).. if i can get the HSDPA signal for a while, it really make me happy, and after that or you go to another place or go iside house, you go back to EDGE.......
I wonder how fast LTE is, and network on your country, someday maybe, thanks for reading..
I'm not into lte, at least not now since lte coverage is limited to a few cities in my country (Switzerland) and the prices are still far too high. Maybe in a year or so when the coverage will be better.
Back on topic: No yiu wont benefit from a lte capable sim card if your phone does not support lte.
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What speed do you get? I get on average 11-12mbs on hsdpa +. More than happy.
from the man hiding in your attic....
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well my sim gives the cingular 410 apn stock when sim inserted and it gets 4-6mbps... when i change it to pta settings i get 13-17mbps... it works because att's comps show me having the att ver. when it shows unkown it doesnt go any faster than the 410.... and no i didnt steal a imei... just made a dummy that att comps like and think is a working 717...