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Windows Phone 8 OS - Is there native support for group texts (iMessage)?

Does windows phone OS support group texting? Mostly concerned with iPhone users sending a group text to me and I want to reply all back and keep a single thread of chat/text going between the other users.
Currently the best option on Android is using GOsmspro or handcent and enabling group MMS threading. Problem is this is TERRIBLY slow even on my S3 because it has to convert each message to MMS and send and upon receiving a reply back from any party member it is received as MMS and then converted and then placed into the group thread. Extremely laggy if multiple texts are sent at in a short amount of time. Just wondering how Windows Phone 7 or 8 might handle this. It's making me really consider going back to iPhone since I like to keep tabs on my bro n sis via this group texting.
I am using groupme at the moment but it's a third party system and only supports sms if using the sms push, or else MMS via 3rd party app, which requires each sender to have the app and use this separate app to communicate.

Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.

bkaul said:
Yes, Windows Phone 7 already supports this. It works via MMS on all platforms, but that's transparent when it's built in. The WP7 implementation is pretty good; I can't imagine they'd drop it in WP8.
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Thank you. Is it pretty seemless? As in sending and receiving is pretty smooth as if sending an sms to a single user? I assume that's what you mean as in it's transparent. If so, this is great news.

Most of my family have iPhone and use group message. Was using gosms but it slow like the OP said. I use wp7 for 2 weeks and their group message is fast. I return wp7 and will wait for wp8.
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By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.

bkaul said:
By transparent, I mean you don't really notice the difference between SMS and MMS when there's no image attached, since in Windows Phone the UI is identical - they're both messages in the same messaging app. But any "group text" is a MMS rather than an SMS, as far as how it's sent on the back end. It is very seamless - Microsoft's Messaging app handles both types of messages very well.
You'll see a message to/from some number of recipients with the individual recipients listed as screen space allows (you can tap to pop up the full list if it runs off the edge of the screen), and on each incoming message, the sender is listed near the timestamp so you can tell who sent it. Everything in that conversation, from any of the recipients, shows up in the same conversation thread no matter how many people you're texting. When you create a new text, you can add multiple recipients just like you would for an e-mail, etc.
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I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?

Apple has never been big on interoperability, but you can easily do group texts natively without worrying about iMessage.

Kindrex said:
I've been having trouble getting this to work. The group text I was a part of on my iPhone isn't coming through on my Lumia 920 at all. iMessage is stuck authorizing my phone number, so that may be a part of it, but as of yet I haven't found out what the issue is. Anyone else having this issue?
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You will have to turn off iMessage on your iPhone. You probably don't have your iPhone anymore, but what needs to happen is to unlink your phone number from iMessage. Did you do that? If not I think you can unregister your phone here:
http://holgr.com/blog/2011/12/howto-deactivating-imessage-on-lost-or-sold-iphones/
Also turn on group chat in your messaging settings. I saw this while messing with a WP8 in store.

[Possible Fix] SMS sending issues

Hi guys,
I have been experiencing failed SMS sending using Google hangouts after multiple SMS sends. However, I was still able to receive SMS and use my data. I called Google but all they said to do was restart the phone, remove Sim card from phone or factory reset.
I tried restarting my phone and removing the Sim card but no luck.
What I did to fix this issue was go to settings, under wireless and networks, select more, then mobile networks, then network operators, then select automatically.
This seems to have worked.

I just changed the default SMS app. Go SMS, works perfectly fine. I think the integration with hangouts is stupid.

Prime said:
I just changed the default SMS app. Go SMS, works perfectly fine. I think the integration with hangouts is stupid.
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Agreed! I use Textra.

Everythings been working flawlessly for me

Waiting4MyAndroid said:
Agreed! I use Textra.
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Are all the other apps working as well? I want Sliding Messaging Pro, but I'm not sure it has been updated to support Kitkat yet...
Looking into Textra.

Prime said:
I want Sliding Messaging Pro, but I'm not sure it has been updated to support Kitkat yet...
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I'm using Sliding Messaging Pro. Works fine, as near as I can tell. To be honest, I haven't really put it through the wringer, but it definitely sends and receives, notifies, etc.

JJMT said:
I'm using Sliding Messaging Pro. Works fine, as near as I can tell. To be honest, I haven't really put it through the wringer, but it definitely sends and receives, notifies, etc.
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Good to know, didnt want to spend the moola on it and not have it work properly.

My reply may be meaningless, but I remember when I had my Gnex, certain messages like MMS would not work. It wasn't until I changed my phone to a Galaxy S2* on my account that I was able to get messaging working. I read somewhere, my phone needed certain information (APN stuff) for MMS. Will it work for this? Probably not and this post is probably stupid.
*T-mobile didn't have the Gnex in the list so I chose the closest model to mine

This sucks I'm still having the issue. Anyone else having the same problem? I am on Rogers.

Waiting4MyAndroid said:
Agreed! I use Textra.
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IMO hangouts is terrible, its not even close to iMessage. Sad but true.

-A-P-M- said:
IMO hangouts is terrible, its not even close to iMessage. Sad but true.
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Whats terrible about it? Has worked perfect for me and many of my friends since day 1 that we all got out N5's. Sure its not as polished as it probably will be but that doesn't make it "terrible"??

Anyone else on rogers or fido having this issue where after sending or receiving multiple SMS, the phone then goes on emergency call mode?

sluflyer06 said:
Whats terrible about it? Has worked perfect for me and many of my friends since day 1 that we all got out N5's. Sure its not as polished as it probably will be but that doesn't make it "terrible"??
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iMessage works between phone numbers and Apple account (email). You don't need any registrations and it will automaticly detect if recipient can receive iMessage (based on phone number) - if not, it will send SMS.
If you want to use hangouts, you must register to Google+ and you must know recipient's gmail address, because it can't detect based on phone number etc. From my contacts, only 5 - 10% uses Hangouts. For reference, 90% my contacts uses Viber and about 70% uses Whatapp. Both Viber and Whatsapp are miles ahead of Hangouts IMO.
And another thing: I made mistake and hid my GF from "People you hangout with" list and now Im unable to unhide her. Now I can't see if she is online and if I can send her message via Hangouts. For that reason, I send her only SMS.
Just look how many Apple users uses iMessage and how many Android users uses Hangouts.

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iMessage works between phone numbers and Apple account (email). You don't need any registrations and it will automaticly detect if recipient can receive iMessage (based on phone number) - if not, it will send SMS.
If you want to use hangouts, you must register to Google+ and you must know recipient's gmail address, because it can't detect based on phone number etc. From my contacts, only 5 - 10% uses Hangouts. For reference, 90% my contacts uses Viber and about 70% uses Whatapp. Both Viber and Whatsapp are miles ahead of Hangouts IMO.
And another thing: I made mistake and hid my GF from "People you hangout with" list and now Im unable to unhide her. Now I can't see if she is online and if I can send her message via Hangouts. For that reason, I send her only SMS.
Just look how many Apple users uses iMessage and how many Android users uses Hangouts.
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That may be why they combined them. To make more than 5 percent of your contacts use it. I'm only guessing.
As for the original poster, hangouts had been working fine for me. Then again I'm on tmobile and not Rogers.
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[Q] Missing messages in group messages?

So I just got my Moto X and its pretty awesome. My previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and I really liked iMessage but I figured that now since Android supports group sms I would take the plunge. However, after doing my first group message today I was only able to see 1 of my contact's text messages while everyone elses messages just never reached me (I guess in text message limbo).
All of the people I messaged were iPhone users (5 and 5s). Is this just a blip or just a common problem that I will have to deal with for the next 2 yrs (which I dont really want to deal with, all of my friends are iPhone users)? Could it possibly be a ATT problem, I tried texting my phone from one of my friends and immediately it went to iMessage instead of SMS but it eventually changed to text and I got it.

so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.

conquerstrife said:
so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
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If you like the stock app check out 8sms. Works very well and supports group messaging.

I have found that group messaging on android is pretty lack luster. I've installed Google hangouts as my default sms app and just deal with the issues. Hopefully, it will get better over time. They have a ton of issues to work through though. Good luck.

I do group messaging all the time in the hangouts app. Works no problem for me at all. I do them as "group MMS" messages. Try switching your SMS app to hangouts and see if it's any better.
Oh and before you switched from the iPhone did you unregister your phone number with iMessage? If not, that might be why they're not coming through. The apple database thinks you're still on iMessage and they're getting lost in limbo. See this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/28/switching-from-iphone-to-android-switch-off-imessage/

What messaging app are you using?

And why? ?

I'm using Facebook messenger app. Crazy, I know.
The Why: Because I already have it for the occasional FB message, so I thought I would give it a try. It's not bad, and I like the chat heads. I don't share anything too personal over it, so I'm not concerned. One day I might stop being lazy and try some others out.

Google Messages works a treat for my usage...

Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends

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Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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Exactly the same... ?

Eric214 said:
Textra ftw. No other texting app better, none as customizable. I also use WhatsApp for friends out of the USA and for sending video and photos to my most talked to friends
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I use Google Messages right now but I do miss the customization that Textra offered and how fast and smooth it is but the one major thing that prevents me from using it every time is the lack of archiving message threads feature that text apps like pulse and messages have. It keeps me away cause sometimes I want to delete a message thread but often times I just want to archive it cause there may be images, information, or just the fact that I want to see my text history with that person. Which Textra would add this feature instead of just the deleting the whole thread.

Textra here too
Fast and simple and heavily customisable

Whats app, facebook messenger.

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I use Google Messages right now but I do miss the customization that Textra offered and how fast and smooth it is but the one major thing that prevents me from using it every time is the lack of archiving message threads feature that text apps like pulse and messages have. It keeps me away cause sometimes I want to delete a message thread but often times I just want to archive it cause there may be images, information, or just the fact that I want to see my text history with that person. Which Textra would add this feature instead of just the deleting the whole thread.
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Yes I agree I gave it 3 stars and mentioned this in my review to the developer. I told them it would be a 5 star if there was a way to backup and restore or archive them as to not lose them from phone to phone or in cases you need to data reset your phone. They responded to me and said they would look into it and nothing... this was about 2 years ago.

Textra is love, Textra is life, no other compromise.

Google messages. I have used textra alot before. But just switched to Google and it's been smooth and exactly what I need.

Google Messages for me.
Smooth, useful features, and web messaging from other devices.

As a non US résident, I don't have access to those fancy text apps nevermind to a supercharged network !
Hence, where I am from, texting is a thing of the past!
I use Telegram which is, in my opinion, light years ahead it's competition in terms of features and one of the last really secure platform there is! (Among with signal)
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Google messages, Whatsapps and Telegram.

Used to use textra, then chompsms, now pulse.
I got tired of backing up my messages when changing phones (I switch between 3 at least once a week.)
Pulse auto syncs messages and restores automatically upon a new login.
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You guys use text messaging? Damn...
It's 2019, use Signal.

Using Google messages, simple, works for me and has a web client for the rare time I don't have my phone next to me

Textra
Great app no issues

Using the stock messaging app for the time being but considering moving to google messaging app because of the web client, which was very convenient back when I had my Nokia 6.1

Textra , it's awesome!
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Question Google Messages vs Samsung Messages? Which to keep

I've seen some threads asking about the google messages apk. but my question is:
My s21 ultra came with google messages by default as SMS app, I also have the Samsung messages app installed (I set it as default instead of the google messages app).
Is there a reason for the google messages app to have come as default? Are there any advantages to it?
p.s. I didn't really find the exact answer around the forum, if there is such answer, can you please point me to it and close this thread?
Regards

joancolmenares said:
I've seen some threads asking about the google messages apk. but my question is:
My s21 ultra came with google messages by default as SMS app, I also have the Samsung messages app installed (I set it as default instead of the google messages app).
Is there a reason for the google messages app to have come as default? Are there any advantages to it?
p.s. I didn't really find the exact answer around the forum, if there is such answer, can you please point me to it and close this thread?
Regards
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I like google messages mainly for the good integration of RCS and also because it has a web app. The UI is fine, darkmode is cool, so if I had to choose I'd go for Google.
Now on why it's google messages by default, I have no clue...

Personally, I like Google Messages, but Samsung Messages now has RCS too I believe. It just got it recently. But from what I've seen and used, Google Messages is probably the way to go. It's just a better experience overall. It can verify business senders, help you report spam messages, and also just a couple of different things that are convenient, like what Raiz mentioned above. I'd go back to Google if you want something that works better overall.

Thanks mates!
Will switch back to Google/Android Messages and test it out a bit more

I use Messages, the only AT&T bloatware app I use.
Edit, it's Samsung not AT&T

Here I am still using Textra lol

Google messages far superior easier to use, much easier adding gifs, emojis and attachments.

I use Google Messages it's really nice and simple to use.

Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.

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Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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You can remove using the adb commands. You can find the package name by using the apk analyzer app.

I was using Google Messages on my previous device, but with the S21 I couldn't set conversations to be mute (roaming messages i receive daily on my 2nd sim).
I can only make the notification silent for that conversation, but I don't even want the notification, which I cannot do.
Samsung Messages have this ability

I use signal. Better than both, has everything plus security and privacy.

S10Plus said:
You can remove using the adb commands. You can find the package name by using the apk analyzer app.
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Been out of the game for a long time. You can do this without root?

thacounty said:
Been out of the game for a long time. You can do this without root?
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Well you can hide apps from the main user (you) with this trick but you can't actually delete the apk file from /system unless you have root.

I personally prefer Samsung messaging app, mainly because of the its UI.
However, the main advantage of Google messages is the availability of RCS by default, no matter where you live or which carrier you have. You can have RCS with Samsung messages but only if your carrier supports it.

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I was using Google Messages on my previous device, but with the S21 I couldn't set conversations to be mute (roaming messages i receive daily on my 2nd sim).
I can only make the notification silent for that conversation, but I don't even want the notification, which I cannot do.
Samsung Messages have this ability
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Ah, really? I haven't had that problem with my S21U whilst using Google Messages. How were you trying to mute them?

NippleSauce said:
Ah, really? I haven't had that problem with my S21U whilst using Google Messages. How were you trying to mute them?
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In Samsung Messenger the no notifications option (bell icon with a bar on it) will not even show a notification in the Android notifications area (When I open Messages I will see there is unread messages in the silent conversation), while Google Messages it will still show a notification but without sound.

I use Google Messages because for some reason, MMS won't send or receive in Samsung Messeges.
If anyone has a fix for this....

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Wish you could uninstall the samsung contacts, calendar, calc, clock, messages, phone etc.... it's the one thing that irritates me with samsung that they spend all this effort replicating what google already does a perfectly good job of.
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IMO... Google doesn't really do a good job with most things other than its search algorithms, ad monopoly and data rape....

whitehawk66 said:
IMO... Google doesn't really do a good job with most things other than its search algorithms, ad monopoly and data rape....
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Exactly, especially their UI. I have a pixel phone and many years after the launch of material design Google still doesn't use it in all its apps. The apps feels completely separate, each has it's ow design and colors. Some apps have dark mode with full black background (setting app) while others have dark gray background (contacts, messages,...). Let's not talk about YouTube, which still doesn't follow MD 2...
I like how samsung use the same design language for all its apps and they pay particular attention to small details just like IOS