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Hi I am in Hungary I just got the update a couple of days ago. It was 8 before and now it is 9 and EMUI 9.
Since the update I had 1 random restart and for me it is less smooth. My main issue is I use the double tap on the recent apps button to go back to the previous app a lot and it is not really working always or I have to do it quite slow and not the same as I did and it stuck and have to do again and very annoying. It is also ignoring some apps to go back to like it was not used at all. And there are other minor bugs like in a game I double tap and it makes a screenshot. I know the double knock thing I use it a lot but before it was not this sensitive and it was doing only for knocks and not taps. I was hoping so much the new EMUI 9 would support 3rd party apps notifications on the AOD but no. I am disappointed. My last phone was a S galaxy s7 and they made this integration so quickly. I have a feeling we are abandoned. Anybody have some news about this? I miss it so much. The phone is faster a bit anyway and the battery time is great. I deleted the cache partition. So what is your opinion about these things? Thanks guys.
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Try format factory reset, im in the same release and its working great everything
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Hi I am in Hungary I just got the update a couple of days ago. It was 8 before and now it is 9 and EMUI 9.
Since the update I had 1 random restart and for me it is less smooth. My main issue is I use the double tap on the recent apps button to go back to the previous app a lot and it is not really working always or I have to do it quite slow and not the same as I did and it stuck and have to do again and very annoying. It is also ignoring some apps to go back to like it was not used at all. And there are other minor bugs like in a game I double tap and it makes a screenshot. I know the double knock thing I use it a lot but before it was not this sensitive and it was doing only for knocks and not taps. I was hoping so much the new EMUI 9 would support 3rd party apps notifications on the AOD but no. I am disappointed. My last phone was a S galaxy s7 and they made this integration so quickly. I have a feeling we are abandoned. Anybody have some news about this? I miss it so much. The phone is faster a bit anyway and the battery time is great. I deleted the cache partition. So what is your opinion about these things? Thanks guys.
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Luis2k33-XDA said:
Try format factory reset, im in the same release and its working great everything
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Thank you. I will do that!
I did it but after pie update, phone is worse.
Especially internet connection and general speed is worse
draligus said:
I did it but after pie update, phone is worse.
Especially internet connection and general speed is worse
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Try to reinstall with the OTG method, should work, in my case was same, the first installation felt laggy, but after i repeat the process, works smoothy
one annoyance i found in emui 9 is that now the default sim for sms will follow default internet sim, not the call one like how it was in emui 8,
this cause issue for banking app that using background sms for verification,
the app will say am using incorrect sim card if i use it with an internet connection from second sim.
this wasnt an issue in emui 8.
i hope this is just a coding bugs instead of purposely made by huawei
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Try to reinstall with the OTG method, should work, in my case was same, the first installation felt laggy, but after i repeat the process, works smoothy
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I have already reinstalled it.
After 2nd installation, i also made factory reset.
For me the battery life is awful... Last night i have lost 30% in 8h hours!!!
I have wiped cache partition.
I don't have any issue after update... Phone works perfect, camera perfect, battery perfect... after update I did FR
otonieru said:
one annoyance i found in emui 9 is that now the default sim for sms will follow default internet sim, not the call one like how it was in emui 8,
this cause issue for banking app that using background sms for verification,
the app will say am using incorrect sim card if i use it with an internet connection from second sim.
this wasnt an issue in emui 8.
i hope this is just a coding bugs instead of purposely made by huawei
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We are on the same release, and i dont have any issue with banking app. Everything also running perfect. The only issue i found after 168 update is night mode camera. It become noisy and blurry especially under shadow and dark area. Very disappointed. It wasnt happen in emui 8
edintl said:
We are on the same release, and i dont have any issue with banking app. Everything also running perfect. The only issue i found after 168 update is night mode camera. It become noisy and blurry especially under shadow and dark area. Very disappointed. It wasnt happen in emui 8
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banking app itself is fine as long as i use internet from the sim that i used for banking verification as well,
it become an issue when i use internet from another sim. the app will unable to send verification sms from the correct registered sim, since in emui 9, default sms sim is following the one used as default for data in dual sim setting, while in emui 8, it follow the one used for call.
kinda hard to explain it in a word, lol. But this is common problem with dual phone sim, and thats why i expect all oem to actually give us setting to set default sim for sending sms, now we can only set default for data and call.
I am with locked bootloader.
I have updated my p20 pro to pie via SD card.
Now, is it possible to return to official oreo without unlocking bootloader..
Thanks
It's same the problem with my P20 Pro After I had updated to EMUI9 the Chrome app didn't sync well everything.. My old bookmarks are empty also! It also flashed off in the Google app before, I reset to factory for twice. And then is turn to Google Play store's apps update to update repeated.. It's like you never did it :silly::silly: I'm thinking about take it back to 8 through the Huawei Hisuite.. I think the Android 9 Pie comes with EMUI 9 is not ready for now... By the way, I'm from Vietnam, a Chinese.
(2) I've just tried to up to EMUI9 one more time.. But this time my phone didn't get matters at all, it's running well!
- Above all issues didn't see any more :laugh:
Things I did just simply returned to the 8 ver through HiSuite, then I used it for the ordinary days, logged in Google accounts also..
At before I was using Chinese language for the Huawei Vietnam device.. So I think it was wrong during updating something just like that, in this time I changed device back to Vietnamese language(root) & update to EMUI9 with Hicare app in the phone........... I saw something after it had updated was the update's log is writing Vietnamese while my phone was changing into Chinese language.. So funny about it! But the most important thing was everything well! No battery draining quickly too, thank gods!
- The present patch:
9.0.0.168(C636E2R1P12patch01)
- The present version:
9.0.0.168(C636E2R1P12)
*My suggestion you do not put it in Factory Reset, do not change to other locations through changing language in the phone, update it to 9EMUI based on the lastest ver of EMUI8(local) with the patches if it has. Good luck to you..
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Could you explain how to do this please?
I did factory reset my p20 pro and it seems it is the same. I have the same problems just like after the update. 1. Double tap on recent apps squere button (go to previous app instantly) is laggy often stuck on the card view instead of reloading the previous app immediately. 2. Touch screen less responsive, many times I can see a blueish 'sparking' mark or line where I touch or swipe the screen means the system detected my touch but it is not linked to the OS properly. Anyway the battery and everything else seems good. So what is otg method I tried to search but it seems not so common or they call different, and anyway how can a factory reset different than the other FR? thank you guys and happy new year!
Hi All
I wonder if I could ask a favour? The stock camera app I have on EMUI 8 (5th November update) has no method of saving the photos other than internal storage. Does the camera app on Pie have an option to save to an external location eg OTG SD card?
Thanks in anticipation...
Steve
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Hi All
I wonder if I could ask a favour? The stock camera app I have on EMUI 8 (5th November update) has no method of saving the photos other than internal storage. Does the camera app on Pie have an option to save to an external location eg OTG SD card?
Thanks in anticipation...
Steve
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No, it doesnt have that option
Update with OTG metod and wipe, working beautiful! No issue with Pie so far!
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Update with OTG metod and wipe, working beautiful! No issue with Pie so far!
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Could you please explain how you did an otg update. Many thanks
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Could you please explain how you did an otg update. Many thanks
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I used this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...ide-how-to-update-to-emui-9-c432-l09-t3883557
Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
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Morning folks,
Had my Note 9 a few weeks now. Quite happy with it, and haven't updated from stock oreo yet.
Now that people have had a chance to tweak and play with Pie, I have a few questions -
1) how does battery life compare?
2) are you still able to remap the Bixby button? Currently using bxactions.
3) is split screen still available?
4) what functions have been lost, if any?
5) start functions have been gained, if any?
Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Cheers for now,
John
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I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
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There are threads here already about Pie in general (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-one-ui-impressions-t3896792) and about your specific questions (e.g. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/pie-battery-life-experience-t3895668).
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Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
John
Treasarion said:
I can give you Information about my device with my personal using, but remember things can be diffrent from device to device and User to user.
1. Battery getting better and better. Atm i get 2.5 Days runtime with 6 h SoT
2. I guess yes. My bixbyremapper ist working fine so far..
3. You mean this app paring that you can use 2 apps together at the screen ? Then yes *Edit* maybe im too stupid but i cant find this function anymore?! ? Strange..
4. Wifi WPS for example.. more i dont know.
5. Hm my Bad english. Dont understand what you mean. I will translate and edit Posting later okay ?
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Thanks for that. I'll keep looking into it.
Cheers for now,
John
Jwsail said:
Thanks Gary. I've had a look at these and they don't what to have been added to for a few months. Maybe they were for the beta?
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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
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No, they're post-beta. Android Pie started distributing to US Note9s in January.
One big problem if you haven't updated yet is that your phone may be exposed to several critical remote-takeover vulnerabilities that have been fixed during the past few months.
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I find the new security update really interesting.
Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
clax6 said:
Remote takeover? I just wonder who why and how this could be done? I just dont get it
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There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
Gary02468 said:
There's plenty of introductory material online that explains how security vulnerabilities work. Also, Google and Samsung publish monthly descriptions of the vulnerabilities they fix.
Remote-takeover vulnerabilities allow others anywhere in the world to monitor and record everything you type on your phone (including account credentials) and everything you read, see, and hear on your phone. Attackers can read, write, delete, or modify any information or media stored on your phone, or send messages from you to your contacts or to others. They can track your location and turn on your microphone and cameras.
You don't have to be singled out. Many attacks these days are automated and unleashed on millions of target devices. Large international crime organizations increasingly carry out such attacks. The most common reason is theft, but blackmail is also a growing concern. Or attackers can use your phone as a distribution center for material that they don't want traced to them.
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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Is there actually any proof that this has happened?
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There's proof that some of it has happened and that all of it is easily accomplished using known exploits. What you do about it is a tradeoff, similar to home-security issues. You can leave your front door unlocked and probably not get robbed; or you can use locks, alarms etc. and possibly still get robbed. The tighter your security, the less likely it is for there to be a breach; but tighter security comes at a cost (money, convenience, etc.). So you need to weigh what you stand to lose against what you stand to gain, and that depends on individual circumstances.
Call recording and Swift installer support. Two biggest reasons for staying on Oreo for me.
This update is so bad I can only compare it to Windows ME & Vista. I downgraded thanking God because my bootloader stayed in v1.0.
It really seems like the Note 9 hardware is not built for this One UI Pie.
I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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I'm sorry to be reading all this dislike of the Pie+OneUI update. I just bought the Note9 and really wanted to go straight to Pie+OneUI because of themes and because by now Pie should be in good shape--after all, Android 9 is a year old and has been rolled out to this device for three months? My note has been turned on for about 30 minutes, and I'm applying OS updates as I type. How bad can it possibly be?
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Just do the updates to the OS and then factory reset device.
Good as Gold from there on
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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In your case you don't need a factory reset, you updated your device straight out of the box which is just as good as a clean install. A factory reset sometimes helps users who have been running apps for a while on the previous version, and restoring user data causes system instability due to the OS major upgrade.
Also, I've done exactly the same thing 3 months ago, and haven't had a single issue [emoji846]
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gruuvin said:
Ouch! I just booted for the first time (into a year old version of Android8), walked through initial wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup, did all the sequential updates (about 7 or 8 downloads and reboots) to get to the latest version ***CSD1 of Android9+OneUI, and then I installed about 30 of my apps, and finally installed Nova Prime and setup my homescreen (all took a few hours).
Think there will be performance issues because of all the sequential updates? Only to be remedied now by doing a factory reset? (assuming the idea is to load ***CSD1 without all the incremental update steps)... And just to confirm, a factory reset would roll me back to the latest Android9 version with security updates which were released in April this year, and not to the original year-old Android 8 that the phone device shipped with, correct? (I don't see why the updates would not also update the factory reset image)........
Okay, as I think about this... I believe there is no "factory reset image".... The way Android works is the /system partition IS the "factory reset image", and a factory reset operation simply wipes everything in the /data partition (and cache, etc). Therefore, since I did my updates before installing all of my apps, then I believe that doing a factory reset now and re-installing all of my apps would only result in a possible change to the 'stuff' in /data that relates to the initial setup: wifi, Google, and Samsung account setup--app-reinstall would result in the same states, since in both cases, apps were installed after all updates. And since wifi and account setup data is likely no different on the Oreo ROM vs Pie, a factory reset at this point seems like a complete waste of time and probably bad advice. Not so sure there is any reason to do a factory reset immediately after initial account setup and updates. I think I just rubber-chickened this thread!
In any case,
What can I test and what results should I look for to see if the sequence of updates has caused performance issues that a factory reset would cure?
Thanks for your response, Hazzay!
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You won't have an issue as you had a new phone with no previous data on it.
Ps of you factory reset a device it won't go back to the OS version it came out of the box. It will remain on the latest version of the update.
Updated to Pie immediately after turning on the Note 9 for the first time, then installed my apps, then installed my sim. This is THE SMOOTHEST, best OS, best battery efficiency, best looking.....
..... it's the best!
is the note 9 Pie's camera quality improved? Still staying on Oreo for months as I have not ever heard of praises for improved cameras and still some users need to install GCam but seems note 9 Pie does not support GCam ?
Hello everyone!
I'm experiencing very serious stability issues with my S10 SM-G973F running stock unrooted PDA/AP G973FXXUGHVJ5, CSC G973FOXMGHVJ5, MODEM/CP G973FXXUGHVJ1.
It started one day ago and the effect is apps crashing immediately after being started. And it affects all types of apps - Galaxy Store, Samsung Email client, banking apps.
Clearing cache partition seems to resolve the issue for a couple of minutes, after which the instability starts again.
I've never experienced such behavior with any Android phone so far.
Any ideas what could be wrong?
Try in safe mode.
Back up all critical data... probably not going any where good
In safe mode it seems to be running fine. Is there a memtest app for Android or logging tool that can help me identify the reason?
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In safe mode it seems to be running fine. Is there a memtest app for Android or logging tool that can help me identify the reason?
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Were any new apps added or updated?
Power management and launchers especially.
See what's running in Developer options>running services and Device Care>Memory. In Device Care try clearing all the cache apps then when it starts to misbehave see what apps just opened.
I've used that method successfully and avoided a reload.
I see nothing suspicious. Clearing the memory from Device care doesn't solve the issue.
I guess next step is hard reset...
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I see nothing suspicious. Clearing the memory from Device care doesn't solve the issue.
I guess next step is hard reset...
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Find the root cause. Otherwise it's likely to reoccur after the factory reset.
The only exception to this is undeletable malware or a boot loop (which is where you might be headed).
Before a factory reset try setting all settings to factory; this is a major inconvenience but not as bad as a factory reset.
Best to find and correct the root cause instead... it's staring right at you, look for it.
Many thanks for your feedback!
Is undeletable malware even possible on unrooted phone? I haven't installed anything new lately and my phone is very stock... And I almost never install anything outside Google Play - definitely not in the last months... On a regular computer I would run a memtest in a preboot environment. As far as I see - there is no such option on Android...
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Many thanks for your feedback!
Is undeletable malware even possible on unrooted phone? I haven't installed anything new lately and my phone is very stock... And I almost never install anything outside Google Play - definitely not in the last months... On a regular computer I would run a memtest in a preboot environment. As far as I see - there is no such option on Android...
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Unlikely but not impossible. An app that passed the Playstore tests can latter update a malicious payload, so there's that. Occasionally the user may inadvertently download a trojan preloader (or other malware) or it may slip past the browser and download itself. If it retrieves its payload, boom; many times it does so through a second website (linked to the first) if you click on it or are redirected to it. It's important to check the download folder daily for anything you didn't download. Social media sites can serve as a haven for these packages and conveniently link the preloader and payload all on that site.
Always back out of bad sites or close the tab, or close the browser than open/close tab or if all that fails clear browser cache, or worst case delete browser data. Doing this can save you a lot of... fun Brave browser is very well harden, nothing has ever breached it. Samsung is pretty good but I've seen it breached. A trojan preloader made it through without me approving the download, but it was deleted before it retrieved its payload
Scan with Malwarebytes, it may spot it if present.
More than likely it isn't malware. Android 9 and above are reasonably secure unless you do something stupid.
Just for the record if someone is experiencing the same issue - 24 hours after hard reset it seems that the problem is gone.
Hello navy3dfx, trying to install phone info made a capture of the first 2 in info.
Maybe find out more about your S10 a 5 G buy or if you buy in a back market on that the concern., unlock any operator my Asia or US network chip.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.uax.phoneinfo&hl=fr&gl=US
It's been like half a month since I got the OnePlus 10 pro, it's been working flawlessly until just two days ago. Since then, even when I'm not using the phone and the screen is turned off, the phone is at 40-42°C constantly. I'm really worried because it has been working cool (well not as hot as now) even when using high demanding games, but now it even turns off the 120hz because of how hot it gets when just using chrome for example. Should I try and do something to fix it or directly send it to get the phone checked?
It might be obvious but the battery life has also gotten horribly worse than before, and it only cools down after completely turning the phone off.
What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
blackhawk said:
What's running in the background?
A logging firewall may help find it. Cloud apps are always prime suspects.
Any new apps or updates in that period?
Possible malware. Try to find the root cause however if malware is suspected and can't be eliminated or if the root cause eludes you, factory reset.
It may be a hardware failure but more than likely it's software issue. If it persists right after factory reset it's either firmware or hardware; send it in at that point.
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Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
Arksuga said:
Might be the Pokemon infinite fusion zip i downloaded because it all started after i downloaded that file. I deleted it but the problem still happened. Right now temperature is back down but I'll try and do what you said. If the problem still persists Ill probably factory reset, but right now for some reason it's better, battery is still acting weird but ye
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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It may have contained malware, downloaded it as an update or acted as a trojan preloader.
It may not have contained any malware or imported any but could have altered hidden user settings that didn't revert back after uninstalled; just a poorly coded app.
If device isn't behaving normally and you can't find the cause, nuke it... factory reset. Start with a clean load and then be careful what you install and download.
I try not to sample apps as while rare they can damage the load. Just because it comes from Playstore doesn't mean it's safe or vetted. Playstore continues to fail in this regard. A clean Android load can last years with minimal maintenance provided you don't upgrade/update the firmware. Updating apps is generally a bad plan as well. This N10+ is still running on Pie, current load will be 3 yo in June. It runs like a bat out of hell and security is not an issue.
Whenever side loading always use online Virustotal to scan it first. If there's any doubt from the results, don't install it. Not worth the risk or the time consuming trouble it can cause.
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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I later downloaded the same zip in the PC because it's actually a PC game and it did say something about malware, so I'll probably factory reset the phone. I have had a OnePlus 8 pro for almost three years and still works like a charm. It has Evolution X flashed but still, that's why I'm trying to take more care of my 10 pro, since i kind of destroyed the battery of the op8pro (due to playing while charging and leaving it charging all night for a few months probably), but then this happened so i got pretty worried. Thanks for the help and the tips ^^
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You're welcome.
Android and Windows aren't normally effected by the same viruses etc as the malware can't cross platform.
On heavily used devices the battery lasts about 2 years. Simply get it replaced.
hello
i've never downgraded/flashed any firmware on this device before, so before i do something that might be fatal/result in bricking my phone i would like to ask is it possible to downgrade a S20 FE android 13 to android 11? while my one ui version is 5.1 i haven't updated the security patch to the april one (the one that changes your binary) it's currently the 1 march 2023 one
i've already checked & downloaded a firmware with the correct binary number so now all i need to do is flash it
Welcome to XDA.
You're limited by the bootloader version to how far you can roll it back. If the bootloader was upgraded too, you're boned. The 5th digit from the rear is the significant digit that determines that. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher value you can flash it. If lower, no go.
kiyan_ said:
hello
i've never downgraded/flashed any firmware on this device before, so before i do something that might be fatal/result in bricking my phone i would like to ask is it possible to downgrade a S20 FE android 13 to android 11? while my one ui version is 5.1 i haven't updated the security patch to the april one (the one that changes your binary) it's currently the 1 march 2023 one
i've already checked & downloaded a firmware with the correct binary number so now all i need to do is flash it
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Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Hello
This will depend on your variant.
on the G780G (binary 3) and G781B (binary 4)
You can download to android 11.
since it has the same binary.
Of course, you should do it from 0.
do not install via CSC_HOME.
The installation must be clean.
before all make backup.
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Welcome to XDA.
You're limited by the bootloader version to how far you can roll it back. If the bootloader was upgraded too, you're boned. The 5th digit from the rear is the significant digit that determines that. If the rom's 5th digit is the same or higher value you can flash it. If lower, no go.
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yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
rgrapow said:
Hi, I downgraded my S20 FE several times from 13 to 12 with the same binary (obviously) with no issues at all, so you can downgrade easily.
In my experience on samsung devices (literally I flashed a hundred times on different devices) it's very unlikely that you brick your device with odin, even if you use a wrong firmware for your device....the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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thank you for your answer & sharing your experience, this is what i've been looking for
kiyan_ said:
yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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since it has the same binary.
Of course, you should do it from 0.
do not install via CSC_HOME.
The installation must be clean.
before all make backup.
rgrapow said:
the only thing that it may brick a device is because it has a hardware damage
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Or if the battery has insufficient charge or capacity. Any time you flash a device you take some level of risk. A power outage with no or insufficient battery backup for the PC would also end badly.
The risk is also greater with Androids because it's not a small couple dozen MB flash that's done in seconds. Lots more time and data for things to go wrong. If my Canon pro cam had a bad flash, Canon would likely repair for free or a reasonable charge. Samsung will do neither of these... repair cost plus a new mobo loaded with the latest firmware. perfect.
mezacorleehone said:
on the G780G (binary 3)
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yes that is my phone variant
mezacorleehone said:
do not install via CSC_HOME.
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may i ask why is that?
kiyan_ said:
yes that is my phone variant
may i ask why is that?
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the CSC_HOME file
comes in the software you just downloaded.
unlike normal CSC.
The CSC_HOME is used to only update the system, without deleting anything.
in your case you are going to downgrade, use the normal CSC without _home.
thank you everyone for the help & answers
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thank you everyone for the help & answers
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You are welcome.
where possible we collaborate.
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Or if the battery has insufficient charge or capacity. Any time you flash a device you take some level of risk. A power outage with no or insufficient battery backup for the PC would also end badly.
The risk is also greater with Androids because it's not a small couple dozen MB flash that's done in seconds. Lots more time and data for things to go wrong. If my Canon pro cam had a bad flash, Canon would likely repair for free or a reasonable charge. Samsung will do neither of these... repair cost plus a new mobo loaded with the latest firmware. perfect.
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I'm referring about samsung devices based on my experience (trial and error), I had a lot of bricks, soft bricks and I was able to solve it with odin.
kiyan_ said:
yes it is the same value
mine G780GXXU3EWB2
the firmware i downloaded G780GXXU3AUH5
which would make both binaries '3' right? would this be okay?
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Yes, exactly. Why do you want to roll it back?
If it's a specific issue finding a work around may be easier.
Android 11 is no picnic either. I prefer Pie, Android 10 is ok; I'm running both and will likely never upgrade them.
Regardless you will need to lock it down so it can't do OTA upgrades/updates. That's the first thing I do on my Samsung's... once bitten, twice shy Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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Yes, exactly. Why do you want to roll it back?
If it's a specific issue finding a work around may be easier.
Android 11 is no picnic either. I prefer Pie, Android 10 is ok; I'm running both and will likely never upgrade them.
Regardless you will need to lock it down so it can't do OTA upgrades/updates. That's the first thing I do on my Samsung's... once bitten, twice shy Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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other than battery run out faster & the phone feeling a bit sluggish nothing specific....it's just i've already debloated my phone & disabled many features of the phone that i dont use and dont plan on updating my phone anymore and while that does help improve things quite significantly i just thought at this point why dont i just might aswell downgrade the phone
before i had this phone i was fine staying years with a phone that stopped receiving updates after android 6 lol just that it eventually ran its course and after several hardware problems & the phone giving up by itself (every 3 weeks or so it'll get stuck on bootloop for no reason) i assume it was time for me to buy a new one...too bad
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I'm referring about samsung devices based on my experience (trial and error), I had a lot of bricks, soft bricks and I was able to solve it with odin.
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I'm glad that's working well for you. I use to always be playing with my PC's like that. With Androids I took a more conservative approach; less down time, more play time.
I leave the firmware be on my 2 stock N10+'s. They run very good, fulfill their mission and it's simply not worth the risk or time. I don't allow firmware upgrades or updates. This N10+ in my hand is still running on Pie, firmware is 3.5 yo, and the current load will be 3 yo this June. No malware in all that time; security isn't an issue. Still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. It's also heavily optimized and running well; I have zero incentive to change the playing field by altering the firmware.
My SQlite scores are lower than they should be in spite of my fast disk r/w scores so eventually I may do a factory reset to try to resolve that. Lol, that's the full extent of my ambition at the moment.
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Upgrades and updates can and do break Samsung's... then you have find work arounds and fixes.
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yep. i learned the hard way
i'm quite green at this stuff and at first i just thought "more upgrades & updates means good! i should get the most out of this device" but alas after some serious overheating & battery draining problems over loads of features i dont even use.....
kiyan_ said:
other than battery run out faster & the phone feeling a bit sluggish nothing specific....it's just i've already debloated my phone & disabled many features of the phone that i dont use and dont plan on updating my phone anymore and while that does help improve things quite significantly i just thought at this point why dont i just might aswell downgrade the phone
before i had this phone i was fine staying years with a phone that stopped receiving updates after android 6 lol just that it eventually ran its course and after several hardware problems & the phone giving up by itself (every 3 weeks or so it'll get stuck on bootloop for no reason) i assume it was time for me to buy a new one...too bad
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Anything below Android 9 is suspectable to partition worming nasties like Xhelper. Run Android 9 or higher. Android 9 is relatively secure unless you do stupid things.
All Samsung's should be optimized. You will still have scoped storage running on Android 11 anyway. If you don't mind the UI of Android 13 I would try to find what's causing the issues.
Disable global power management then go after the power hogs on an individual case by case basis. A logging firewall is useful in finding them. Cloud, and social media apps are prime offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps; Google backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of it. Enable as needed. 5G can also suck a lot of power and is inefficient when doing small bandwidth transfers. Wifi isn't needed if you have an unlimited data plan. Use Package Disabler or abd/ladb edits to take out the really problem apps that can't be resolved in settings. Don't go too nuts though; target the hogs and totally worthless apps like Digital Wellbeing. Most of the dozens a small Samsung system apps are best left alone as many modify the UI and consume very little resources. Understand what the app does and it's dependencies if any before disabling whenever possible.
Play with it...
blackhawk said:
Anything below Android 9 is suspectable to partition worming nasties like Xhelper. Run Android 9 or higher. Android 9 is relatively secure unless you do stupid things.
All Samsung's should be optimized. You will still have scoped storage running on Android 11 anyway. If you don't mind the UI of Android 13 I would try to find what's causing the issues.
Disable global power management then go after the power hogs on an individual case by case basis. A logging firewall is useful in finding them. Cloud, and social media apps are prime offenders. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services and see if this helps; Google backup Transport, Gmail and Playstore are dependencies of it. Enable as needed. 5G can also suck a lot of power and is inefficient when doing small bandwidth transfers. Wifi isn't needed if you have an unlimited data plan. Use Package Disabler or abd/ladb edits to take out the really problem apps that can't be resolved in settings. Don't go too nuts though; target the hogs and totally worthless apps like Digital Wellbeing. Most of the dozens a small Samsung system apps are best left alone as many modify the UI and consume very little resources. Understand what the app does and it's dependencies if any before disabling whenever possible.
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i've done all that hahahah
other than youtube i don't have any other social media apps installed and i've already got rid of chrome & switched to a lighter browser
yep i like to experiment, i suppose the flashing stuff is the next step after all of that (yes have tried factory reset several times too, i don't mind as there aren't any important data in my phone but still, possibly getting a priceful item bricked over my messing around isn't something i'm too excited about, that's why i still like to ask around)
also what got me the idea was that i've also read from several people with the same device saying that with every android updates the phone gets even more sluggish
kiyan_ said:
yep. i learned the hard way
i'm quite green at this stuff and at first i just thought "more upgrades & updates means good! i should get the most out of this device" but alas after some serious overheating & battery draining problems over loads of features i dont even use.....
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I learned the hard way with Samsung's too.
After the upgrade to 13 did you do a factory reset? If not, now is the time. Don't use SmartSwitch; do a clean load by importing all the critic data yourself.
At the very least clear the system cache.
I use Package Disabler to disable about 70 apps. It's not as bad as it first seems. Android 10 literally has about 100 more new system apps than 9. Most of those new ones should be left alone. My disable list for the Android 9 N10+ vs the Android 10 one is almost identical though.
Samsung's do lots of cool things so don't be too concerned until you learn more about the features. Bixby got killed right out of the gate; it's a hog and it's EULA is one of the worst I've ever read.