risks of breaking phone. (root, modding) - OnePlus 3T Questions & Answers

Ok guys and gals, my girlfriend is convinced I'm going to brick my phone and that rooting my phone will somehow "break" it. I've been rooting and modding since the G1 made it's debut, so my question to all of you is essentially, is rooting and flashings roms harming my phone at all? (I doubt it)

Is this some king of joke?

vicky romero said:
Is this some king of joke?
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No man im being serious...

And also, you will break your car if you apply a sticker to it or go beyond 100km/h ??

If you followed all the steps without flashing any file wrong nothing wrong will happen

And even if you would by accident flash the Oneplus 3 firmware on your 3t which will softbrick the device, you can just use the Qualcomm recovery tools and restore all the partitions back to factory state.

This device is pretty hard to brick. And as noted, there is the unbrick tool, even if you do. And AFAIK, you can't truly brick flashing ROMs or by rooting. Folks sometimes will be stuck in a "no boot to OS" condition by doing something wrong (or just some condition beyond their control) - which some folks will call a "soft brick". But recovering from such a situation is easy. Just know how to return to stock state, or at least have a TWRP backup, in the event anything goes wrong.
In fact knowing how to do these things makes you better equipped than a user of a "stock" phone (that doesn't have that knowledge); since any device can stop working anytime, even a stock device (such as from a bad update, damaged/corrupt OS, etc.).
Many phone manufacturers and cell carriers want folks to think the device will brick, blow up, etc. if you try to root it. But it's just nonsense, meant to scare you into gaining your rightful control of how the device works.
In fact, OnePlus is very friendly to the mod community. Your warranty is still valid if you unlock the bootloader, root, etc.
Your risk is very low, as long as you understand what you are doing, follow instructions, backup your ROM, etc.

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[Rum Float] First flash ever, a bit nervous

I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
MeeGz said:
I'd like to flash my Vivid with the new Rum Float ROM and from what I gather; now that a RUU is available it should be fairly easy. I.bought the phone last Thursday and haven't had a chance to grab a SD card. I just want to make sure that I fully understand the process involved. I've read a number of posts here at XDA and elsewhere but I still have a few questions to make sure my knowledge is solid and I don't end up with an HTC paperweight! A) Will the Android market will have a record of what I have already dl'd so I can dl it again? B) Is using the RUU executable fairly simple? Should I do the BL UL before I restore?(I would like root, so I'm assuming that this is one of the first steps!) C) Is it a simple follow the instructions sort of thing with the RUU? D) Will "frigid's" "supertool" method to get root work in this instance or do I need to use CWM? E) I'm using an AT&T Vivid could somebody give me a simple step by step(not in detail, but if you could that would be great!) Such as "1- Do BL UL, 2- Run supertool for root, 3 - Run RUU, etc, etc, etc
Also there appears to be a sense and a NONSense version of the ROM, are they both included in the RUU exe file? And for the NONSense version will there be any difference in stability, performance, you acceleration, etc?
Thanks for any info in advanced!
-MeeGz-
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The RUU DOES NOT CONTAIN MY ROM. It is an official tool used by HTC for upgrading and returning to stock.
Android market will keep tabs on purchased apps. It will not keep track of free apps.
You need an sdcard to keep safe.
The RUU is easy to run. Its just an exe. Follow the on-screen prompts.
I don't know what you are trying to restore but it would appear you have your terminology and methods all mixed up.
RUU will get you a stock ics. And it will wipe your apps and settings. It will act like a phone you just pulled out of the box with ics.
In order to run rum float (or any aftermarket rom) you need to unlock your bootloader. Rooting has nothing to do with it. Unlock bl then flash recovery on then flash rom and kernel.
Your steps as you perceive them are slightly off. I don't recommend you do anything to your phone right now.
After you complete the RUU you'd have to go to htc.dev and unlock your bootloader. After you can fastboot flash a recovery and CWM with root. After that's complete you can flash a rom of your choice. I'd get familiar with using fastboot commands in ADB (command prompt). I guess you can use the supertool to root but it isn't necessary really a matter of preference. Check out the superguide. Maybe PG or someone can update it with specific steps if you are using the RUU but the process is the same. It starts with the unlocking the bootloader. Definitely pick up an SD card!
Thanks for the quick replies and the clarification. I think I get it now, I would do the following to get to a rooted custom ICS Rom: Unlock the boot loader, root and run titanium backup to save my apps(using an ad card), run the RUU and get to stock HTC ics, copy ROM to sd card, re-root, download and run CWM, root again and restore apps with titanium backup, enjoy!
The only things that may be a bit off in that process is running the RUU as I don't need that to just flash a custom ROM, assuming said ROM includes the ICS kernel. If did have to use the RUU would I have to re-root to run cwm? Also the actual ROM itself is installed from HBoot, correct?
Sorry if these sound like dumb questions, I'm just new at this. I really appreciate the replies. I'm sure I will pick this up fairly quickly as I have years of linux & OS X command line experience and am well versed with c. It's just kind of information overload on this board as there is such a wealth and variety of info here!
Thanks again,
-MeeGz-
So you can run the ruu.exe even if you are rooted, unlocked bootloader, on att stock? Or do you have have to relock bootloader to proceed with the ruu?
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RUU is for stock roms IIRC. If you are rooted and already unlocked I'd use the original method PG and Thecubed created.
back on my computer for a little better explanation.
the RUU or the methods that thecubed and i have laid out will get you the necessary HBOOT/RADIO/etc that you will need to flash a custom ICS rom
either method will get you the same thing....an updated HBOOT and ICS
if you run the bootloader unlock tool from htcdev, YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR SETTINGS! it will wipe the device like its brand new......do NOT include this in your dreams of getting backups prior to flashing a custom rom....
please just read through the posts and understand what is going on.
in order for ICS to happen on your vivid you need the new HBOOT, Radio, and various other components that the RUU/PH39IMG contain
there are 3 different roads you can follow to get there, the EASIEST being just run the RUU (WHICH WILL ALSO WIPE SETTINGS!), afterwards, reboot to bootloader, unlock bootloader, reboot to fastboot, fastboot flash the boot.img and the recovery.img of your choice on (limited on boot.img's at the moment, better use the one from the rom), reboot to recovery and flash the rom
the other methods imply you understand somewhat how the process works.
relock bootloader (if unlocked), run PH39IMG install, unlock bootloader, fastboot flash recovery and boot.img, reboot to recovery and flash rom.....
if you wrap your head around HOW it works, its all really simple....so the first step is understanding HOW it works, not blindly following some tutorial or walkthrough.
please try to LEARN and UNDERSTAND what it is you are doing....
PS. you have involved ROOTING too many times in your post...... the rom is already ROOTED, you dont have to ROOT to unlock, flash rom or anything....ROOTING is only applicable INSIDE the booted OPERATING SYSTEM, and has nothing to do with recovery/bootloader
i feel i need to apologize to the board here.
frustrations were not directed at the OP of this thread, just in general....
i have been inundated with PM's and seeing the same barrage of questions for the last few days on the forum....
i can understand everyone's excitement...hell i was excited to get this too.
but you all need to read, and try to take it all in before attempting anything. sometimes those of us that understand whats going on, dont explain in a whole lot of detail, because we take the knowledge for granted, and assume if you are on this site, you are here to learn. it is frustrating to see the same questions pop up on nearly an hourly basis...
all i ask is that you take forth the effort to learn how these tools of ours work and understand that a lot of us working on things like this rely on you guys to assist each other in the process. that leaves us more time to deal with what we need to deal with and try and fix and squash bugs/processes/etc.
in return i apologize if i seem on edge the last couple of days...its because i am. if you can imagine one question multiplied by a hundred.....and having people freaking out about them 'bricking'.....after being warned its possible, but unlikely. i think most of these 'bricks' are salvageable and just require someone that understands how they work.
sorry to seem like an ass, but mainly its because i am an ass, and i have a hard time being nice most of the time.
Thanks pirateghost. I understand how to do the other methods but wanted to use something less complicated with less risk for user error. I read and read everything that is posted on the forums. I try not to ask a question unless I am not understanding what has been posted. Thanks for your patience and understanding.
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PG, so im pretty sure i "bricked" it lol. im not upset as it was entirely my fault, just wondering if there is any way to get this mother to turn on? i know that when i plug it into the computer it recognizes it but not as anything i have seen lol..if i can find the correct drivers can this be reversed?
Thanks
Thanks to PG for everything and the instructions. I thought I had bricked my phone, but theCube was able to help me on IRC, which is where I suggest anybody go for real-time assistance.
This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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As a user, you should understand the risks/benefits of the things you download. The devs are under no obligation to keep you from bricking your phone, and to be fair, most everything is covered in the Superguide and the various ROM threads. Even if someone were to post a file called NOT_A_VIRUS.EXE and you downloaded it and it wiped your computer when you ran it, the responsibility is squarely on your shoulders.
As far as I remember, there is no dev/user contract and they're not getting paid for any of this.
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I totally 100% agree with you. If you HAVE taken the time to read and are still a bit confused, ask! For me I'm not even a week into this platform and I WILL NOT do anything that I don't entirely understand. The problem with android, if you could even call it a problem, is that there is such a huge variety of handsets and a big variety methods for doing this, that, and the other thing. It basically results in a non-linear process to get from point A to point B. It's imperative to understand the basic proceedures. If you were here since the G1, great, you've been able to.follow things from the start. I've used iOS for years, and I still love it btw.(only jailbroken of course!) I'll probably buy an iPad 3! The software is integrated with the hardware amazingly well, battery life is phenomenal, and ONCE JAILBROKEN, iOS is an excellent platform. Sure the "spec numbers" may not be as high but it boils down to.performance. That has always been great for me, obviously battery life is exceptional on apple devices as well. I'm hoping with a rooted ICS Rom there won't be cpu-time hogging processes and ill be able to adjust other things accordingly to get somewhat better battery life. I really wish each OEM would take the time to optimize the SW that they're using to the HW that they're selling. B/C from what I've seen the "Nexus" devices generally perform extremely well, even.against higher spec'd devices. So far I'm loving Android and my Vivid. I love the freedom that I get even on a non-rooted device! It's an excellent platform. Flexible, dynamic, and personal. Customization is there from the get-go. There are a million different things that one could do, even while staying un-rooted. The only reason that I've waited so long to get on board with android is ibwas waiting for it to grow and mature, if I could have a device that tri-booted Android, iOS, and WebOS I'd be a very happy person. I love using multiple platforms.
PG - I'm sorry if I bothered you, thanks for the great info though!
I think knowledge-wise I'm at a point where I'm not going to brick my phone. Wish me luck!
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oh?
am i being paid to do a job here?
i gave instructions based on how *I* got it to work and duplicated the procedure several times. so its MY responsibility to try and find a way to brick my phone for you?
an RUU cant brick your phone.....however, being a retard can.
this is the type of attitude i would expect my boss to have, if i screwed up a project....but alas, i am here out of my own free will.....
if this is how you feel, then you should get the F off this site.
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Seriously if that is how you feel do get the f*ck off this site please. The devs in all mobile hacking communities are unpaid and do it for fun. You sir are a prime example of WHY THEY LEAVE!!! IF YOU DON'T KNOW AND HAVE READ, ASK, DON'T BE A ****!!!
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This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
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REALLY? You want the UNNPAID DEV'S TO REMOVE ALL THREATS?!?!?! FROM WHAT IS BASICALLY OSS AND A FIRMWARE THAT SOMEBODY DL'D? REALLY? These guys take a FW and cook it into a ROM for FREE and just b/c you didn't take the time to understand it you're gonna put it on them? WTF?!?!?!?
i'll make him a deal. next time we get a hold of something like this, i will let him figure out how to get it on his phone....i don't have to share how...
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This could off all been avoided with step by step Detail instruction. Why? Well example , I don't follow this forum at all never had an HTC phone but my wife's phone the vivid. All my phone has been Nexus and the galaxy line from Samsung, things over there are a bit different. All I did was flash the ph.img and then after not seen the device reboot I wipe/factory reset and all when to hell from there. Couldn't unlock the bootloader or reboot the phone. How could this happen? Assuming that people should know the basic is wrong. I'm not in any way blaming anyone I did this own my on risk but at the same time I'm super mad had to buy a new phone. As developer you should eliminate all threats and post a details instructions step by step with do's and don't before posting firmwares.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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You know, its users like you that get Devs frustrated and not want to share the work that they have accomplished. XDA is a site for Devs, its not a WalMart that people can stop by and expect to be spoonfed and be on their merry way. Pirateghost is a very talented Dev who wanted to share something with this community, and instead of saying "thank you" you decide to look a the glass as half empty instead of half full and EXPECT MORE from him?
Reading your post, it tells me that you dont frequent the HTC forums at all, and instead of reading up, you just decided to flash. Just because it didnt go as smoothly as you thought it would is NO REASON to tell a Dev that they needed to do more. That part lays on you.
Next time you decide to tell a Dev that "they need to do more" I think you need to do more reading so it prevents you from having to buy a new phone. If it dosent make sense to you or you dont think theres enough documentation/step-by-step instructions YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAY NO AND NOT FLASH IT.
Uh, there's a reason every single solitary dev puts a disclaimer on their ROM threads. Their work, if directions are not followed to the letter can turn your device into a +/- 200$ paperweight. I've been lurking around these forums for a hot minute, rarely post ( not an ounce of dev skill being the main reason), and really, when's the last time a dev didn't post at least semi detailed instructions to go along with his/her OP.
@pirateghost- bought a vivid literally 12 hours ago, got home, saw your thread, FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY, and now have ICS on my device. Just wanted to say thanks.
And now for the most epic noob question of all time. Wth is RUU? I'm very familiar with flashing roms, cam, tibu, etc from my days on the sgsII SR forums. So most if not all HTC terminology is new to me.
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How safe/unsafe is rooting?

I don't reside in the US so sending my kindle back to amazon would prove to be a little difficult if not expensive.
I've rooted/unlocked android phones before, but the knidle, based on what I've read on diff threads, may be more risky. Is is true that there isn't a way yet of going back to stock if you mess up the stock rom?
I would definitely like to root it to install apps particularly gapps, I've found 2 ways to root it, the automated and the manual, which one is less risky?
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I don't reside in the US so sending my kindle back to amazon would prove to be a little difficult if not expensive.
I've rooted/unlocked android phones before, but the knidle, based on what I've read on diff threads, may be more risky. Is is true that there isn't a way yet of going back to stock if you mess up the stock rom?
I would definitely like to root it to install apps particularly gapps, I've found 2 ways to root it, the automated and the manual, which one is less risky?
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The automated way is definitely going to be the safest way, it eliminates the chance of you imputing a command wrong.
The risk is not in the rooting process itself, it is what people do after the device is rooted that is risky. If you plan on doing mods to the device you should make a backup immediately after root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930656
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The automated way is definitely going to be the safest way, it eliminates the chance of you imputing a command wrong.
The risk is not in the rooting process itself, it is what people do after the device is rooted that is risky. If you plan on doing mods to the device you should make a backup immediately after root, check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1930656
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Thanks, will try this tomorrow. hoepfully I don't brick it or something lol

root without computer

Hi I got my new nexus 6 but I do not have a computer now. Is it possibile to root from the terminal? Thank you
Nope.
You still need to unlock bootloader before and, may be, to flash custom recovery (makes rooting easier)
It *is* possible with an app, but I would strongly discourage this. Having a locked bootloader whilst being rooted, even if you have a custom recovery but do not have access to a computer is a really dangerous situation to be in. You could quite easily brick your device. I'm not going to mention the app, because honestly, I don't think you should do it and even then, I don't want lazy folks trying to do that instead of using the official method, so You're on your own there.
Check this thread out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2586472
it is possible, and i agree with @danarama

Nexus 6 Rooted and Unlocked and now new Feb OTA - Pls guide

Nexus 6 Rooted and Unlocked and now new Feb OTA - Pls guide
Dear Friends,
I am currently having Nexus 6 with Build Number MMB29S which is rooted unlocked. Last time I had to wipe clean Nexus 6 just to update to this build. The nexus toolkit was somehow not working for me.
Now I see again that there is an OTA called Feb Security update for android 6.0.1.
I really don’t want to flash factory image bcz it will overwrite everything and erase all. Last time was a bad exp.
Kindly help.
Reformatting and again restoring is too much of pain.
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Have you tried WugFresh's Nexus Root Tool (NRT)? Backup your device via recovery, and save your backup in a safe location like your PC.
Then use NRT "no wipe' install.
I've rooted everything starting with the OG Droid and beyond; so now days I don't bother rooting by hand unless I have to, and if someone has a good tool I use it. I'm a big fan of Wug's NRT the only time it gave me any trouble was during the transition to M.
If the OP doesn't have the experience to be able to resolve problems that might crop up in the process of using a rootkit like the WugFresh tool like you apparently do, you shouldn't be recommending the rootkit tool to the OP. He should instead have a properly working ADB/Fastboot setup and issue the commands manually.
Assuming your bootloader is still unlocked, flashing from factory image should not wipe your data (just make sure you don't flash userdata.img). I don't use NRT, but I'm told it does have the option to flash factory image without wiping your data (again, assuming your bootloader is still unlocked).
If your bootloader is locked, you have no option but to unlock it (which will wipe your device). Bite the bullet and do it - and don't lock your bootloader after that. Mark it as a lesson learned
Edit: I'd urge you to learn using fastboot directly, instead of using the toolkit. That way, you'd know exactly what step does what. It really is not that hard - read the sticky threads about how to flash using fastboot. It is fairly straightforward, and more importantly, you'll know what you are doing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65136208&postcount=13
excellent thank you
however need help i last two steps
followd word by word
If it were me, I'd welcome the suggestion to use NRT, so I think he should be recommending the rootkit tool to the OP.
@aiiee: Seriously? Nexus phones are the easiest to root and modify, requiring nothing more than ADB, Fastboot, and the drivers for the device. Rootkits are complete rubbish for a Nexus device. All they do is automate a process that you can do yourself, simply by using your head, and a keyboard.
Since using a rootkit doesn't actually teach you how to root the device, if you encounter a problem using one, what will you do? Will you be like most everyone else who uses one and come to XDA begging for help because you couldn't be bothered to learn how to do it the right way? Or will you be a smart one and figure out the solution to the problem by doing research?
The best solution is to ask yourself first what root is and whether you really need it. If you determine to yourself that you do need root, then you start reading threads in the forum, and start learning about the proper root processes for this device. When you not only have read everything, but also have understood it, then and only then do you attempt the procedure yourself.
Under no circumstances should anyone be recommending a rootkit. Everyone should know how to use ADB and Fastboot to do the job. It doesn't take long and it's really simple to do.
meh, I just don't like your strident tone. And your argument doesn't hold any water. If I get in trouble with a rootkit, then I can learn what it does. To listen to you we should all build our own cars in case they break down. ehhh, not so much you know?
I know several people on this forum who would disagree with you regarding said argument not holding water. But frankly, what you think about me or my argument is irrelevant. Rooting is serious business, period. While it is possible to brick a device using either Fastboot or a rootkit, by learning everything you possibly can about how it's done through use of the tools Google provides, you have a chance of reviving your device. Otherwise, you're coming here to beg for help.
@Strephorn Alkaholi, not a fan of the "begging" comments, and frankly what you think of me or my argument is also irrelevant. Isn't that nice?
Not a fan of the begging comments? Too damn bad. This is XDA Developers, not XDA Help-me-because-I-can't-be-bothered-to-learn-how-to-properly-root-my-device.
I can dismiss your opinion because you provide no solid reasoning to back it up. Meanwhile, not only do I provide a reason, I provide methodology which happens to follow site rules, which happens to be "search before you post."
Don't bother replying, as you and another poster in this forum have reaffirmed my belief that humanity in general is a parasite that has become larger than the host.
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Question Old to Nexus, New to Pixel, Help.

Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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Here's a Pixel 7 Pro guide. The principles remain the same.
Rooting is a little different than old school nexus twrp days. You can't just flash a zip for root. On the p7 you have to extract the init_boot.img from the factory image, patch it using magisk, and fastboot flash it. (There may be other solutions, but this works for sure.)
Here is a guide... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rooted-my-pixel-7.4505525/
And this is a good kernel to try if you want to go that route - once you are rooted you can flash it through a kernel manager app and it will retain root... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-2023-03-16-unified-pixel7-pixel7pro.4543551/
Have fun!
dirtyjersey856 said:
Hi guys, it's been awhile.
As stated in the headline, I've been around awhile, not new to rooting, unlocking, flashing, but it's been 5+yrs since I've touched anything and I'm coming back fresh on a Pixel device (Panther), so I'm now completely oblivious, nothing is the same lol.
I've been trying to wrap my head around what's changed and I'm still in confusion, hell, I still don't understand how to navigate XDA properly with this new "look", what happened to the option to revert to the old XDA layout!?
To my question, would anyone be able to write me up, or point me to some helpful guides that could walk me through what's changed from Nexus to Pixel, recovery to these new A/B partitions, how to unlock, root, safely and effectively (god I hate that sentence lol) pass Safety Check for Google Pay ECT....I need to be taught like I'm a fool (but I'm not so much, maybe slightly).
IDK if I want to go to a custom ROM or kernel just yet, but I'd like to know I can, and can come back to stock(unlocked and rooted, once there).
Seems gone are the days of TWRP, Philz and custom recoveries....hell....how do you even go about making a full backup (assuming through adb to my PC now) and getting it back onto the phone
Thanks in advance for an old guy who's in new territory.
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The thread in the quoted post directly below this sentence is the premiere guide to all the major points of going off stock experience for the Pixel 7's. It will answer much, if not all, of your questions...
Lughnasadh said:
Here's a Pixel 7 Pro guide. The principles remain the same.
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O.J. Simpson said:
And this is a good kernel to try if you want to go that route - once you are rooted you can flash it through a kernel manager app and it will retain root... https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-2023-03-16-unified-pixel7-pixel7pro.4543551/
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One caveat you should know about flashing a custom kernel on the Pixel 7's is that you have to disable verity & verification -- which will require you to wipe your device, just for the first time -- but you will also have to put into the command to disable verity and verification every time you update through a Full Factory image.
You'll definitely be told this, so I'll be the first to tell you that using badabing2003's PixelFlasher is a GUI that will automate almost anything you'd wish to flash & do for your Pixel -- from unlocking, to firmware updating, to rooting, to custom kernals, to custom ROMs, to OTAs, and more. If you ever feel overwhelmed or want a simpler method with an interface, that is your best bet.
*Although he and I would suggest you going over roirraW "edor" ehT's guide to familiarize yourself with the methods and reasonings behind what he put a GUI to automate & do...
Happy hunting!

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