Hi, im new to Note 5 Dev. and been out of the loop since it was released. i had a Sony Xperia play and a Galaxy s3 before and know how to do the basic stuff to do custom roms and flash stuff etc. to those Phones. But a Note 5 is different, running on Lollipop, having EFS partition stuff and OEM unlock Stuff. i just want to ask a few questions to make sure i don't do something stupid (i already did some of the research for answers on some of this for a few days now and some are Informative and Awesome, but a little outdated) so tnx in advance kind People :fingers-crossed:
My Device: SM-N920C (UAE)
Android Ver: 5.1.1 (Lollipop) Stock
Questions:
1.) Can i Revert back to 5.1.1 (lollipop) stock/ [Downgrade] , IF i decided to update to Nougat Stock?? (just curious ) and if yes, can you kindly link me to a process? if not, then that's fine too :laugh:
2.) Do you have to Enable OEM unlock if Updating Stock (in my case Nougat)??
I red somewhere on Magisk thread here on XDA that it can Grant Root Access to 5.0+ . If so, installing TWRP and Flashing Magisk on 5.1.1 involves Enabling USB Debugging and OEM Unlock.
3.) Do i have to Enable OEM Unlock Forever now? cause i saw some threads says that if you disable it, you will have a bootloop or a soft brick and will have to Flash Stock again and repeat. (don't really have a problem with it being Enabled, but the other people in Tutorials , Vid. Tutorials and Thread Posts just mentions "Enable it". And never really says after the process is done u can Disable it and stuff.), just want to have that information, cause i Understand that OEM is a LOCK that Even if someone steals your phone and has a lock in it. they can't just Flash a Stock Rom on it to Unlock it. [great feature] :fingers-crossed:
4.) if i have a Custom Recovery and Rooted my phone ver. 5.1.1 successfully, can i still Unroot it and go back to Stock 5.1.1?? also applies to other Versions of android. EX. nougat Stock then i root it, will i still unroot it and go back to stock?
5.) Do you need to be in a Specific Version of android to use the Custom Roms?? i mean i'm in android 5.1.1 [if rooted], can i flash a Nougat Custom Rom or a s8 port etc.?? or do i need to be in Stock Nougat > Root it > then flash Custom Nougat Roms?
That is all, Sorry if all the Questions are Freakin Long Shahaha, i just want to be specific so all the people who are also newbies can understand the questions and have answers. Tnx again for the people who have the patience to read and answer these questions. :highfive:
shadowhog006 said:
Hi, im new to Note 5 Dev. and been out of the loop since it was released. i had a Sony Xperia play and a Galaxy s3 before and know how to do the basic stuff to do custom roms and flash stuff etc. to those Phones. But a Note 5 is different, running on Lollipop, having EFS partition stuff and OEM unlock Stuff. i just want to ask a few questions to make sure i don't do something stupid (i already did some of the research for answers on some of this for a few days now and some are Informative and Awesome, but a little outdated) so tnx in advance kind People :fingers-crossed:
My Device: SM-N920C (UAE)
Android Ver: 5.1.1 (Lollipop) Stock
Questions:
1.) Can i Revert back to 5.1.1 (lollipop) stock/ [Downgrade] , IF i decided to update to Nougat Stock?? (just curious ) and if yes, can you kindly link me to a process? if not, then that's fine too :laugh:
2.) Do you have to Enable OEM unlock if Updating Stock (in my case Nougat)??
I red somewhere on Magisk thread here on XDA that it can Grant Root Access to 5.0+ . If so, installing TWRP and Flashing Magisk on 5.1.1 involves Enabling USB Debugging and OEM Unlock.
3.) Do i have to Enable OEM Unlock Forever now? cause i saw some threads says that if you disable it, you will have a bootloop or a soft brick and will have to Flash Stock again and repeat. (don't really have a problem with it being Enabled, but the other people in Tutorials , Vid. Tutorials and Thread Posts just mentions "Enable it". And never really says after the process is done u can Disable it and stuff.), just want to have that information, cause i Understand that OEM is a LOCK that Even if someone steals your phone and has a lock in it. they can't just Flash a Stock Rom on it to Unlock it. [great feature] :fingers-crossed:
4.) if i have a Custom Recovery and Rooted my phone ver. 5.1.1 successfully, can i still Unroot it and go back to Stock 5.1.1?? also applies to other Versions of android. EX. nougat Stock then i root it, will i still unroot it and go back to stock?
5.) Do you need to be in a Specific Version of android to use the Custom Roms?? i mean i'm in android 5.1.1 [if rooted], can i flash a Nougat Custom Rom or a s8 port etc.?? or do i need to be in Stock Nougat > Root it > then flash Custom Nougat Roms?
That is all, Sorry if all the Questions are Freakin Long Shahaha, i just want to be specific so all the people who are also newbies can understand the questions and have answers. Tnx again for the people who have the patience to read and answer these questions. :highfive:
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1)If you flash stock 7.0 on your device if available then its hard to revert to back to stock 5.1.1 as there is thread in Question&Answers section about downgrading from 6.0.1 to 5.1.1 but many are unsuccessful(I have successfully downgraded from 7.0 to 6.0.1 but Cant confirm about 5.1.1 as google has changed many security policies in updates versions like 6.0.1 or 7.0 which will block your bootloader to downgrade easily/Issue you will face like lossing of baseband or corrupt imei which will block you from receiving network signal)
2)Yes its very important to enable Oem unlock and usb debugging while flashing any stock firmware using odin to avoid DM-Verity/SW Check Fail/Custom Binary blocked by FRP like issues which are hard to solve enough OR you will might hard brick your device which will be difficult to make it live again( AFAIK to flash TWRP or Any root access using odin there is instruction to enable Oem Unlock before flashing always remember it as a essential step before flashing anything using odin)
3)Yes once you enable Oem unlock for purpose of modification of your device, it needs to be unlocked or even its enabled by default to overcome reported issue like infinite bootloop or Many i mentioned in my 2nd Post And Oem unlock allows your bootloader to be customised by flashing mods or roms which is by default locked so that you could not easily modify your device as well as to avoid further modification issues
4)If you choose to stay at 5.1.1 and rooted your device with installed TWRP then yes you can unroot it by flashing 5.1.1 using odin( In case your on 6.0.1 or Even on 7.0 you can unroot your device with the same process but here to remind you that you need to flash stock 6.0.1 or 7.0 respectively version on which you rooted your device So if you will try to unroot it by flashing 5.1.1 again while your on 7.0 rooted device then again here downgrade issue which will probably give you mentioned error as a result)
5)To use custom nougat based roms or any S8+ port based on 7.0 you should atleast upgrade your bootloader and modem to 6.0.1( If your rooted on 5.1.1 and try installing nougat roms then your device will not boot as your using old bootloader, so upgrade bootloader or modem either to 6.0.1 or you can update whole system to 7.0>root>install TWRP>flash custom nougat based roms or s8+ ports afterall choice is your as if you want to upgrade only BL and Modem to 6.0.1 or want to upgrade system with BL and Modem to 7.0, i will mention here is BL and Modem for 7.0 are also available to flash you can find those on dr.ketan rom n10 installation instruction section in Samsung galaxy note 5>Android development>Dr.ketan Rom N10 instead of whole system update but Flashing Stock full firmware is always recommended for good reception and avoid glitches)
I think i have tried to fulfil all of your queries as far possible by myself
Regards,
AssassinCreed-Xda Developers
Too bad about the answer to the 3rd question, that feature would've been nice to have. but oh well. shahahaha
~Ooh!! i have a follow up question regarding your Answer to the 4th question. Can i also flash other Countries Stock firmware?? for example: mine is Stock 5.1.1 [UAE] can i flash Stock 5.1.1 [USA] or other Country variants?? [of course unlocked bootloader] , i searched again here for people who did that and for some reason they encounter Errors and Unable to revert back to their Original Stock Firmwares.
@AssassinCreed Thank you. yup, clear cut answers. Thank you!! :victory: :victory:
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Hello Developers!
Here I will put forth instructions required for successful upgrade to lollipop. (These instruction are based on my own experience. I have been using Sony Xperia and Nexus phone for quite a while and I have flashed lot of roms. I may not have much experience in developing but definitely lot of experience in flashing! )
So, motorola has officially put up release notes here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/102639
So the questions that are bugging most people are:
1. When will the OTA be available in particular country?
2. Will I be able to smoothly able to upgrade and gain root access on Android L?
For first question: I really can't help you there. It depends on motorola. Android upgrades are rolled out region by region. So OTA will hit your phone when it is available in your region.
Second question:
To answer that, let us first consider few things.
New bootloader:
The very first note on release notes put out by Motorla says that: You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update. It means that new bootloader has been included in the update which does not allow downgrading.
ART runtime:
Android L uses new Android Runtime (ART). Some applications have not yet been optimized for ART and have problems with ART. To make sure the apps which you require daily work fine with ART, read the changlog given by its developer. If it has not yet been optimized then request the developer to optimize it for ART. If I am not wrong tools to develop apps using ART were released when Google released L preview. So you can expect many apps have been already optimized for ART.
When will the upgrade fail and when will it won't?
1. Locked/Unlocked bootloader:
If you have locked/unlocked bootloader but HAVE NOT CUSTOMIZED or HAVE NOT MESSED WITH RECOVERY AND KERNEL partition then don't worry. OTA upgrade will definitely hit your phone and you will be able to smoothly upgrade to L.
2. Modified kernel/recovery partition and root:
If you have rooted your moto g then it means you unlocked your bootloader, flashed a custom recovery and flashed the superuser binary. In this case you won't be able to upgrade to android L. According to few article I have read, you have to be completely stock before update. Completely as in you shold have never rooted your phone or flashed a custom kernel. Even if you have unrooted after rooting or flashed a stock kernel/recovery after flashing custom kernel/recovery is NOT allowed for Android L upgrade.
3. Unstable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Unstable connection might corrupt the OTA upgrade file. Make sure you have stable internet connection while downloading OTA.
Considering all these there you are in one of the following scenarios:
1. Locked/unlocked bootloader with no customizations to any partitions:
Don't worry. You won't face any problems with OTA upgrade. Just make sure all your apps work fine on ART.
2. Unlocked bootloader with stock/custom rom and sotck/custom kernel with root or unrooted after root:
You will need to flash official kitkat firmware. Official firmware images for Moto G 2014 are located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
Then you can upgrade via OTA.
3. Unlocked bootlaoder, root but do not want to lose root priviliges:
Then you will need to wait till developers modify new custom roms based on android L. Then you can flash those by following their instructions. To root stock android L build, a custom kernel is required and also according to chainfire the system.img will be need to be patched. So it is not possible to root sotck android L unless motorola release kernel sources and some developer pathces the system.img.
I have no experience in handling/using/modifying carrier locked phones. So I cannot help you with those.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO FLASH STOCK/CUSTOM LOLLIPOP ROM OF DIFFERENT MOTO G VARIANT.
Enjoy and happy flashing!
Nice info, thanks!
Also: you need 850 MB of available space or the OTA update will refuse to download.
Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?
El_Froz said:
Thanks man!
It the only thing you did is unlock boot loader and no more... And do the ota update, might boot loader stay unlocked?
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Yes it will stay unlocked.
Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Any disadvantage in unlocking boot loader other than voiding the warranty? We will still get future OTA updates?
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Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
AD9295 said:
Yes. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?
Trekker56 said:
I know about the warranty.
What about future OTA updates?
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I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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Thanks. Good to know.
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axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Well waiting for lollipop custom rom is actually the best solution yet!
You need following things to upgrade to lollipop:
New bootloader
Recovery compatible with that bootloader
Kernel comatible with lollipop rom which you want to flash
New baseband (radio)
And system and data partition image
When a developer creates a flashable zip, it generally includes:
System and data partition image
Kernel
So before flashing that lollipop rom. You just need to flash
New bootloader
Recovery
Baseband(radio)
Then from recovery you can flash the zip file.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do all this.
Only problem is, it takes time for motorola to release factory images like google releases for nexus phones.
So you will need to wait till some developer captures OTA, extract all the partition images and share it online. (Make sure the uploaded partition images are of the same moto g variant which you have)
axl409 said:
Hey, this seems the right thread to ask.
I'm not so hyped about lollipop (doesn't see all these big changes), but sooner or later I will upgrade of course.
My plan on upgrade is when some custom rom with lollipop will come out.
So my questions are:
-will I be able to flash a lollipop rom from my rooted Moto g with philz recovery and stock/custom kernel?
-do I have to upgrade (somehow) the bootloader or the recovery? And if I have, do I need to return to stock KitKat and then upgrade to official lollipop and then unlock bootloader again and flash recovery again?
Thanks for your answers!
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Actually it is easier to flash official kitkat images and update to lollipop with ota update. Then you can flash any custom lollipop rom just by following rom developer's instruction. It will be easier.
Thanks for this thread Bro.
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axl409 said:
Thanks a lot @AD9295!
So, I was searching around for returning stock, because you said in the end I'll have to and also because I want to be prepared in time!
I found the thread "restore to stock" and in the end, there's written this at q18 (I made a screenshot).
It's good to do this even if I have philz recovery? Will I get the update or I need to flash also the stock recovery? I know there's written, but it's cool? Or maybe something could go wrong?
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If you are using rooted custom rom:
Flash the complete official kitkat image. images are located here:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36
If you are just using rooted stock rom then follow the instruction in response to that q18. You do need to flash stock recovery as mentioned there. That's what is meant by returning to "stock".
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axl409 said:
No I'm just rooted, and of course have installed some apps that need root.
So in order to restore stock I should:
- uninstall the root apps
- do the q18 (but where I found the stock recovery image?)
- waiting for the ota lollipop upgrade that will update all (bootloader, recovery, radio, system and data).
Am I correct?
And then from lollipop do again root and install future lollipop compatible recovery.
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Yes you are correct. the zip files located here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=36 contain all the official .img files. You can download it from there (I understand file size is large but it's worth downloading coz you will always be able to return to stock even if you mess up your phone pretty badly ) or you can ask on forum
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AD9295 said:
I said "YES"! You will get the future OTA updates. Make sure that you don't mess with the partitions in any way. I have confirmed this by chatting with motorola assistant.
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What benefit gives just unlocking and not rooting?
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
dub_1 said:
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
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Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
Gerriitw said:
Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
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Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
dub_1 said:
Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
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What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
doctor_droid said:
What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
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well guess im gonna try - but no need to do, as makes no difference except to downgrading.... So best off unlocked
simply use the 4.4.4 link in my signature and pick firmware 2 or B called DSDSALL to go back to 4.4.4 .23 ret(xx)
So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK.
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded.
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK. FALSE
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded. FALSE
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
reefuge said:
YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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no absolutely not....... boot logo warning still comes up ...warranty still void and strangely if been to 5.0.2 and back to 4.4.4 it wont relock
but you can relock if on 5.0.2
Successful downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Dear All,
Pls help me in downgrading from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 on my XT1068 Dual Sim Indian Version.
I need to know whether we can return to 4.4.4 without unlocking bootloader and is rooting needed.
Pls let me know your experience in a noob friendly way.
TIA... :angel:
dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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What exactly did you do? His signature is gone...
Hi,
This is a very basic question, but I haven't been able to find the answer in one place.
I have a new Galaxy S6 Edge G925A on AT&T, baseband version G925AUCU1AOE2. I don't want to take the OTA update because apparently then the bootloader will be locked and can't be rolled back. I'd like to root the phone and not lose any features but I'd also like to be able to flash a ROM based on the most current version of Android available (and continue to upgrade in the future). Right now I only know enough about rooting, bootloader, baseband, kernels, custom recovery, ROMs, Android, KNOX, radios, modems, fingerprint scanners, Samsung Pay . . . to be dangerous. Every search I've done over the past couple days seems to teach me something while also confusing me a little bit more.
What I'm wondering is - if I root my AOE2, am I then able to flash a custom ROM based on 5.1.1 (or later) versions of Android without losing any other features (Samsung Pay, fingerprint scanner, etc.) and without locking myself to a certain version of Android? If so, what steps would I have to take (e.g., 1) root, 2) install a custom recovery, 3) flash a later kernel, 4) flash ROM, etc.)? Thanks in advance, and sorry if this question is answered elsewhere already!
monkton said:
Hi,
This is a very basic question, but I haven't been able to find the answer in one place.
I have a new Galaxy S6 Edge G925A on AT&T, baseband version G925AUCU1AOE2. I don't want to take the OTA update because apparently then the bootloader will be locked and can't be rolled back. I'd like to root the phone and not lose any features but I'd also like to be able to flash a ROM based on the most current version of Android available (and continue to upgrade in the future). Right now I only know enough about rooting, bootloader, baseband, kernels, custom recovery, ROMs, Android, KNOX, radios, modems, fingerprint scanners, Samsung Pay . . . to be dangerous. Every search I've done over the past couple days seems to teach me something while also confusing me a little bit more.
What I'm wondering is - if I root my AOE2, am I then able to flash a custom ROM based on 5.1.1 (or later) versions of Android without losing any other features (Samsung Pay, fingerprint scanner, etc.) and without locking myself to a certain version of Android? If so, what steps would I have to take (e.g., 1) root, 2) install a custom recovery, 3) flash a later kernel, 4) flash ROM, etc.)? Thanks in advance, and sorry if this question is answered elsewhere already!
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Simple answer is no.
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So - if I want to have the latest version of Android possible on this phone does that mean I can't also be rooted (or be using a custom ROM)?
dandrumheller said:
Simple answer is no.
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monkton said:
So - if I want to have the latest version of Android possible on this phone does that mean I can't also be rooted (or be using a custom ROM)?
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Correct. Since you are still on OE2, your choices are as follows:
1) root with ping pong and go to
A) custom 5.0.2 ROM, keeping root
B) stock OF3, keeping oe2 bootloader and recovery via odin/flashfire, keeping root
C) stock OF4, keeping oe2 bootloader and recovery via odin/flashfire, keeping root
2) don't root, update to full stock OF3/OF4/5.1.1 (I forget the build number), lose the ability to root, lose the ability to roll back. Possible that this will never be rooted.
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Dang. Thanks for confirming. They're sons of *****es. Why do they need both an early contract termination fee AND to lock down the phones so you can't get full enjoyment out of the hardware you're committing to a 2-year contract to get?
My phone is reporting the following
Android Version = 5.1.1
Baseband version = G920AUCU1AOE2
Though my phone has the 5.1.1 update but my baseband didn't get updated does still mean I'm SOL for a future root?
I am fairly new to using the Galaxy Note 3, but an experienced user and firm believer in flashing roms and gaining root access to our Android devices. I have tried multiple roms on my device, and with every single rom they fail to install. I get an error that says "E: Error executing updater binary in zip" I have tried reinstallimg, wiping the device, even formatting the system with no luck. Any answers are very much appreciated.
Btw, I know my bootloader is locked with the AT&T variant and am using the Safe Strap version 3.75 specifically for my model N900a on kitkat firmware NC2 if this helps any!
With a locked bootloader, only custom ROMs based off a stock Samsung rom can be flashed to the n900a.
I'm new, and not sure if this is the right place to comment haha
audit13 said:
With a locked bootloader, only custom ROMs based off a stock Samsung rom can be flashed to the n900a.
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The rom I was trying to flash was supposed to be based off of Samsung's touchwiz, a full port from the g9200. I'm a little confused here, on the download page here in XDA forums, the instructions and download page said it was specifically for my model and that it would work. The rom's name is Aurora Note 3 Full G9200 Port v3
Often, an updater script error during the flash process indicates that the phone's minimum requirements are not met for the ROM to install.
Is this the ROM: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/10-11-15-t3223180 ?
This appears to be a Lollipop ROM as indicated in the first post which means the phone probably needs to be running a Lollipop bootloader and modem.
audit13 said:
Often, an updater script error during the flash process indicates that the phone's minimum requirements are not met for the ROM to install.
Is this the ROM: https://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/10-11-15-t3223180 ?
This appears to be a Lollipop ROM as indicated in the first post which means the phone probably needs to be running a Lollipop bootloader and modem.
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This is a screen shot of the directions I was following in order to be able to update to the rooted lollipop ROM.
Thread closed, you must use instructions (posted here on forums) to update to rooted lollipop for you to be able to flash custom roms for your N900a device. You must root lollipop, with root access you flash NC2 flasher apk to flash the kernel needed to use safestrap after that boot into safestrap and then flash the rom of your choice and flash the OC1 kernel so your device will boot back on. And there you have it!
I done it before on s9+ but i have read on some sites, that bootloader must be the same, my bootloader has the '7' bootloader but want to run a Oreo rom (exykings oreo light rom) can i just flash after clean flash, or is it not possible?
Thank you
biggary said:
I done it before on s9+ but i have read on some sites, that bootloader must be the same, my bootloader has the '7' bootloader but want to run a Oreo rom (exykings oreo light rom) can i just flash after clean flash, or is it not possible?
Thank you
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Not possible, you already answered yourself because you know you can't downgrade the bootloader and you can't run Oreo using the Pie bootloader.. If you're on an F version of the phone then you should be able to flash twrp and then flash whatever you want I'm assuming.
MrMike2182 said:
Not possible, you already answered yourself because you know you can't downgrade the bootloader and you can't run Oreo using the Pie bootloader.. If you're on an F version of the phone then you should be able to flash twrp and then flash whatever you want I'm assuming.
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im on the F version
but didnt understand your post.... i can flash whatever i want????
biggary said:
im on the F version
but didnt understand your post.... i can flash whatever i want????
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If you want to downgrade from Pie - N950FXXS"7"DSG1 to Oreo - N950FXXS"6"DRE2 you CANNOT do it because the bootloader ver "7" won't allow itself to be downgraded to lower versions "6",5,4,3,2, and 1! You're stuck on PIE!
(The Number in Quotes is the bootloader version. )
If you root your phone you can try to see if the custom oreo rom will boot with bootloader version "7" by asking and searching in the custom rom (that you choose to run) thread.
Root does come with a few cons like permanently tripped knox, No Samsung pay, and no knox related apps so read up on it.
(You will lose secure folder and Samsung health if you go back to stock firmware! But if you stay rooted and on a custom rom then you'll have access to Samsung health and secure folder (Devs found a way to get secure folder working! Check the note 8 roms forums for info on it.)
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biggary said:
im on the F version
but didnt understand your post.... i can flash whatever i want????
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Read @BluePhnx post.. I already told you that you can't downgrade but you can root and flash twrp and then flash whatever roms that the devs have made for bootloader version 7! There's really no going back!