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... and I just LOVE the Diamond. I always thought the Diamond's just a VGA version of the Touch with GPS built in, and hesitated for a while before I decided to go for the upgrade. Almost a month since the upgrade and I can't even imagine myself going back to the Touch.
I love the Diamond for ...
- beautiful VGA screen
- great form factor, fits perfectly in hand or pocket
- 3.5G is FAST ... especially considering I'm coming from a EDGE machine
- The 535MHz processor may be under-rated when running the bad ass TF3D2 interface, but its speed advantage shows in other apps say, like TomTom when alternative route calculation is required
That said, on the other hand ...
- battery life sucks. This is the first phone since ... man ... the Nokia 6190?! when I actually carry a spare battery with me. I setup the Diamond to check email once every 30 min, and keep it to EDGE for email, use 3.5G only with Opera, do very little web browsing, and my battery still can't make it through a 10 hrs day without giving me low battery warning before I get home.
- Compared to the Touch, which had Talk / End / Camera buttons on top of the D-pad, the Diamond loses yet another hard button in the camera button. I use AEB+ to get more functionality out of my hard buttons, but still I wish there's at least the camera button. OTOH, I don't know about others, but I almost NEVER use the back button. I thought it'd be somewhat useful if it gets you back to the last webpage when browsing the web ... but it doesn't. It gets you back to the last app. Worse, the Home and Back buttons cannot be remapped, or controlled by AEB+.
- The Diamond looks stunning with the piano black finish but the whole phone is a finger print magnet. I think I'm developing an anxiety disorder rubbing and cleaning my phone every chance I get these days.
- The phone heats up quite a bit after a number of resets, or after browsing the web for a while. It gets hot enough I wonder if I'd burn myself leaving it in the jeans pocket.
- The combination of heating up and poor battery life makes it a BAD navigator. If I use turn GPS on and leave the phone running TomTom with screen turned on all the times, the battery hits low battery level within an hour. However, if I plug the charger in, the battery overheats (40C or higher) within 30 min to a point either it stops charging, or resets itself.
All in all, I love my new phone! I think it's a great phone, and most of the shortcomings don't bug me much ... but it'd be great if the battery life and the last point about using it as GPS can get addressed.
Any suggestion?
little info, you can remap the back button with aeb+ the button is called "ok" in aeb+, if i remember correctly.
only the home button cannot be remaped..
Also update your Radio. My battery used to be exactly like how you mentioned until i updated it to the Radio v1.13.25.24 (Blackstone) found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470306
Make sure you read the instructions of updating the Radio VERY CAREFULLY or you'll brick it.
Since updating the Radio ive noticed a significant improvement not only in battery life but also other things like my phone connects to 3G faster and also my TomTom gets a fix within 10-20 seconds. (before it was more like sitting there for 1-2 minutes before getting a fix).
I also recently upgraded from my beloved S710 to this one since the S710's display broke after it fell out of my pocket.
Being used to the S710's great battery life, the TD was surely a bit disappointing. Apart from that, it really is a cool device.
Regarding TomTom take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-412321.html . It describes how to reenable the dim feature. Unfortunately, TomTom doesn't allow the background light to fully switch off but at least dimming it enhances battery life.
I tried one or two radios and made the best experiences with v1.00.25.05 using T-Mobile (Germany). Fast GPS fix and stable signal, good battery life, great voice quality.
To enhance battery life, I also disabled 3G and used all the other tweaks of Advanced Config Tool. Bluetooth seems to be a battery drainer, so I only use it for ActiveSync.
Having BT/WiFi deactivated, my battery lasts about 3-4 days with medium usage. When listening to music or navigating, much shorter.
Did you condition your battery by fully unloading and reloading it several times?
I have not yet updated my Captivate to 2.2. Reading posts in regard to the update I am very bothered by a common complaint that battery life has just died. My Captivate has excellent battery life using it fairly heavily over a 1 day period. I charge it every nite. Also, my GPS is workng fine in 2.1. So am considering not updating it due to the problems I am hearing about.
Anyone else have input on battery life after the update??
I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
Battery life did reduce on 2.2 but it is obvious in my point of view. But its not too bad either.
it's about the same, i upgraded to stock 2.2, feel no difference on the battery life. moderate usage last mine for about more than 24 hrs, u should update to froyo for you to experience it.
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I went from STOCK 2.1 to Cognition 4.1 (built on Froyo 2.2) and my battery life is about the same. My usage varies wildly from day to day, but as best as I can tell, overall battery consumption is about equal.
I wonder if the people complaining about battery life have set up their phone "post-update" with different apps or turned on "apps syncing background data"...
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I upgraded Stock 2.2 end of Feb and noticed a big drop in my battery life the first week. But just reading above, i did turn on "apps syncing background data" so i think that's my problem. Just turned that off so we shall see...
Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
My battery has been about the same since the 2.2 upgrade. At first it felt like my battery was draining quicker but I also noticed I was playing with more phone more. The screen is the biggest power drain on the phone so just playing with menus and looking at new settings can cause a small dent.
Give it a week or two after upgrading and you'll notice it'll be about the same. Unless of course you have more accounts or programs syncing data in the background.
Why upgrade to 2.2
Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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Thanks everyone for the input. The more I read and hear the more I am leaning toward not upgrading to 2.2. On different forums I am seeing and hearing problems with battery life and some saying about the same battery life. Also, seeing GPS not being fixed or going from working ok or good to not working so good. Right now my phone does everything I want, GPS works really good, email works fine, internet works fine, battery life is outstanding, mp3 works great, screens all are clean and to my liking, I have an easy work around for turning off 3G and one tap returning my volumes to normal after using a USSD code.
REally cannot see any advantage to upgrading and risking introducing a problem I don't need. The list of new features really does not thrill me.
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2.2 ROM is a big step forward, not backward, IMO. Sure it didn't solve GPS issue but it is not making it worse either. GPS issue is purely hardware issue. If you have a good one, it doesn't matter which stock firmware you use.
I just can't see any disadvantage for upgrading (other than slightly more difficult to root or unlock, but not impossible). Battery life thing is as I mentioned above. You will see all kinds of complaints (either dain too fast or too slow) after a new firmware comes out, any firmware. You don't know what you're missing until you upgraded.
I noticed a big improvement in battery life. Sometimes with light use it will last up to four days, whereas before with 2.1 it would putter out after maybe two days.
GPS isn't fixed, but drop one of many GPS fixes in and it will get somewhat normal performance.
Wifi sleep policy
You may also want to check the Wifi sleep policy after the upgrade to Froyo. In my case, the default was "Never sleep". Changing this to "When screen turns off" improves battery life on 2.2, as it does on 2.1.
Just my $.02 worth.
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Let your phone go through a week or so recharging cycle before judging its battery life after a ROM flashing. You just lost all your battery stats when flash a new ROM. Your phone/OS has no clue how your battery will operate until it has time to learn or you manually calibrate it.
For what it is worth, my battery life is about the same or slightly better than leaked 2.2 ROM as well as 2.1 ROM. No big changes.
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I'm on stock 2.2 since the day it came out. My battery life is actually trending worse day-by-day. I did a full battery clear/reset this weekend and after 4 days I'm finding battery life is not improving at all. The degradation from stock 2.1 is significantly noticeable to me.
For the first couple of days post-update it seemed actually to be better, but got worse and worse, to where I was lucky to find the phone working 12 hours after disconnecting from the charger @ 100% ... even if I hadn't -touched- the phone during the day. My applications loaded are virtually identical to before.
I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1? I know that Google Voice, etc, were doing background syncs in 2.1.
It can't be WiFi, as for the last 2-3 days I've kept WiFi turned off. However just for sanity I did adjust the sleep policy.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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I did have Background Data on, so I've just disabled it, but was this option not in 2.1?
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it is the same as in 2.1.
I'm wondering ... my battery woes seemed to start when I hooked up my Microcell. Could having a strong 3G signal so close to the phone actually be causing problems?
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That might be your problem. I don't know. I know 2.1 doesn't work very well with microcell either.
Yep. I'm pretty convinced it is the microcell now. Phone works great with it from a call/data/signal standpoint. However after unplugging my microcell last night, charging my phone to 100%, and then letting the phone discharge normally with no microcell ... I'm now 10 hours later and have an almost full battery.
Sad, because our reception here is so spotty that we lose calls and data regularly without the microcell. My wife says her phone charge has been pretty normal, so I'm getting ready to move the cell away from my desk and see if distance helps the story.
So, as far as this thread is concerned, my results for 2.2 and battery life are great ... better than with 2.1 ... just don't use it with a microcell.
Froyao 2.2 Battery Usage Dillema
I see no significant or excess battery drain while riding the KB1 over the JF6.
Just a thought for those experiencing excessive or significant battery drain. KB1 loads some new features and new additional bloatware that loads on boot and runs as a service, process and both.
If you're familiar with poking around your system settings and understand what doesn't need to always be running in the background, or what doesn't need to load on boot, you can simply kill the process and even alter the way a certain application handles on boot.
By killing many unneeded or unwanted processes at boot time, it will significantly save you hours upon hours of battery life in the longer scheme.
Another FYI, Lithium Ion batteries have memory. You need to train or retrain the batteries memory over time in order to sustain a longer life for it.
Tips:
Don't continually through the charger on your device after minimal drainage. Let the battery run down before fully recharging it again.
When flashing to another ROM wipe your battery stats.
When flashing any new code to your device - a few forced charge deaths to purge the battery and reset the memory again prior to recharging may be a good idea...
Hope this helps...
Peace-
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Ok guys\gals, I have a question that I haven’t seem to find. Right now I’m using CM7 stable on my Nook emmc drive and it works great (Special thanks to all Devs in the Android world that make all is possible). Me and the family are going on vacation at the end of next month and I’m little concerned about battery life on a 5 hour plane ride with my Nook. I know of the sleep bug that CM has and everyone has been working on it but right now I get about day use out of it with normal to heavy use. This is fine because I’m always somewhere I can plug into if the power starts to get low, but now have a little concern since won’t have power. I have successfully converted a few movies using Handbrake and would love to use my nook as entertainment\movies for me and the family while in the Air. So in my testing I haven’t been able to get through a few 2 hours or so movies without the power draining down fast.
Ok with all that being said, it’s my understanding is that the stock ROM with root (Nooter 3.0) works great with Video and has good battery life. Would it be idea for me to just restore to a stock rooted Rom, then create a CM7 SD-Card? The cm7 card would be for my use only till we great back from Seattle. Mainly I’m just trying to keep the kiddos happy since they have never been on a plane before LOL. They LOVE all what my little Nook can do and love watching movies on the bigger 7 in screen (Transformers is Awesome on the Nook by the way). Any suggestions would be great.
Thanks Guys\Gals…
Derek.
Yes, what you propose will work.
I actually have a dualboot on my NC with CM7 as a primary boot; and the stock (rooted) on the secondary partition. (you can follow the dualboot thread in the developer section).
However, while you are actually USING the NC, the battery life shouldn't be terribly different between CM7 and stock. The biggest difference in battery life is while in "suspend" mode, because CM7 doesn't go into as deep of a sleep mode as when in suspend while in stock; so if you are willing to actually power down the NC, rather than suspend, you shouldn't experience any additional power drain while on CM7.
If you still have significantly more power drain on CM7, it is probably because you are overclocking. I have found that shutting wifi off when not being used, being conservative in the screen brightness, and adjust the the processor tweak in the cyanogen settings to "conservative" will help with battery.
All of that being said, I hope to get an external USB battery the next time I need to fly ....
My Nook, running CM7 Stable with screen brightness at 100% and wifi off, uses about 18% of its battery life for every one hour of full-screen video that I watch (.avi files, Rockplayer, mostly). The times that I've flown with it (only once since installing CM7) I usually watch an hour or two of video with internal battery then plug in one of those Duracell rechargeable batteries that you use with a USB cable to power portable devices. Using the rechargeable with a Nook-specific cable (in case that helps) my battery drain per hour of video drops to 10%. On night flights both rates improve somewhat due to much lower brightness levels. Plus, if the Nook is plugged in but inactive (powered on or off) it'll ADD charge 5-10% per hour. One charged 750MAH battery (half the size of a deck of cards) and I'm good for at least 8 hours of heavy use (could go longer, that's the most I've needed).
As jasoraso mentioned, you're really not going to get much better life while using it, if you switch to Stock. Cm7's battery usage is only when usage is suspended as it can't go as deep into sleep as the stock os can.
So even if you move back to stock, you're not going to get better life while watching videos. Your best option would be as both posters before me mentioned, an external charger.
I thought I might begin a thread for those who have general battery tips, experience with addons, and any other key info that can help some others with battery woes.
I've not had any real problems with battery life from the start-- mine seems to be getting better and better. But some of the reports out there have people with substantial battery problems. Here's what I've done to this point in regards to the battery, and I hope others can chime in with other useful stuff:
1. updated to latest firmware from STOCK via OTA. This OTA marked a clear improvement.
2. rooted
3. xposed installed, with these modules: App Settings, BootManager, Greenify, Unbounce (i think this one's key), Wanam (make sure you disable secure storage or you'll have freezing issues)
4. Titanium Backup to remove some bloat, mostly T-Mobile apps.
5. Look through greenify, unbounce, and bootmanager and filter out stuff that seems unnecessary or hogging resources
6. ALWAYS Let the phone drain to ~20%, and then fully charge to 100% using the adaptive rapid charge (this takes about 1 hour for me). It's important especially when breaking in a new battery, to cycle it properly.
I've seen pretty tremendous battery life since doing these steps, and allowing the system to settle in for a couple days. I suspect it's going to keep improving as the battery ramps up from usage. I have plenty of stuff still running in the background (Facebook, Viber, location, bluetooth for my Gear 2, Sync, NFC) Pretty happy with the last 24 hours especially. My phone is sim-unlocked and running on AT&T- this may play a part in reception and better battery life, but it may be irrelevant.
What are others experiences/steps/frozen/greenified/unbounced/BootManager(ed) etc... let us know!
edit: the attached thumbnail showing screen life, is with the battery at 52% as well
Wow those are some good stats brother
I just drained the first charge to 0 and charged it back up. I'm more than satisfied with the battery on this device!
I spent hours messing with the phone as evident by my screen on time and it just keeps going.
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I just drained the first charge to 0 and charged it back up. I'm more than satisfied with the battery on this device!
I spent hours messing with the phone as evident by my screen on time and it just keeps going.
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Any tweaks to accomplish that?
The only thing I did was disable all T-Mobile branded apps with the exception of the Mobile Hotspot app. All other bloatware is untouched and still on the phone.
I haven't rooted yet and most of the time on that charge cycle was spent on WiFi. I was trying to learn the phone again, so I was absolutely using it a lot.
The screen on time blew my mind and is the best of any phone I've had to date. Especially when you consider that it was on the first full charge.
Hello All,
I have been noticing battery drainage issues on my Note 4, ever since I got the device. I have had it for a week (I got it on 10-28-14 right from T-Mobile but I didn't fully set it up until the 29th, and today's the 5th) and thought maybe after a few discharges and recharges, I would notice improvement. Coming from a Verizon LG G2, I have been used to starting my day at 8:00AM with 100% and coming home by 6:00PM with 30-40%, without having to employ any Battery Saving features or tricks. Obviously on days where I used my phone more, it will go under 20% and I would turn on battery saving mode, turn off any unnecessary wireless network signals, etc. I have been trying to keep patient because this phone is a spec powerhouse and I know theres just something running wrong in the background, but when I look at Battery usage, 9/10 times, Android system is using up ~40% of my battery, while screen is ~20%.
Has ANYONE had similar issues, or have any ideas on how to fix it?
Notes (no pun intended):
-I have the latest software update, the one that fixed battery life.
-I am running completely stock android, albeit with Nova launcher over touchwiz (all my apps downloaded from Play Store, no root)
- I do have "Ok, google" enabled and always listening
-I have turned off all animations in Developer Options (to counter some of that touchwiz lag)
-I use signals like bluetooth, nfc & gps RARELY, they are usually never on.
-Synch is usually on, because I want my notifications, but I have even turned this and Data off to try to save battery, but even on just Cellular or Wi-Fi, battery drains quick.
-Screen Brightness is on auto, but if I watch a youtube video, I usually turn it up to full.
-I haven't wanted to use power saving just because I shouldn't HAVE to in order to get through my day if I barely turn my phone on.
-Battery drain ranges from 5-15% per hour on mostly standby, the most screen on-time I have gotten thus far is under 2 hrs.
If you want amazing battery life (I'm talking truly 50% more), root your phone and flash FireKatv3 ROM. It's no joke. Dead serious. The battery life is insane, let alone a faster, smoother, lighter, cooler (temp.) phone...whatever you do, don't stay stock. It doesn't do the n4 any justice.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help.
I've attached a few Screenshots of how today went, barely any usage, yet I drained so much during standby.
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If you want amazing battery life (I'm talking truly 50% more), root your phone and flash FireKatv3 ROM. It's no joke. Dead serious. The battery life is insane, let alone a faster, smoother, lighter, cooler (temp.) phone...whatever you do, don't stay stock. It doesn't do the n4 any justice.
Let me know if you have any other questions. I'd be glad to help.
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Thanks, but for now i wanna keep my warranty and use the S-pen for at least a few months.