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Nexus One Repair Experiences

Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone

HTC seems to be honoring the warranty if it's a hardware problem, even if you've unlocked your bootloader. I haven't had problems with it, but from what I've read that power button tends to go bad. If mine does, I'll call HTC (and not mention the unlocked bootloader), then when I get the phone back I'll do the root-without-unlocking method.
But yeah, HTC seems to have pretty stellar support for their hardware. Can't complain about that.

My similar experience here, but scroll up for a bad experience with a service center outside the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7076177#post7076177

They sure have very good customer service in the US...but for the repair center, well I can only say they are horrible!
My experience with them here

same problem as me. Got mine back today, and rooted it again. I didn't feel like cutting the sim card slot up and stuff.

They told me that I should ship mine back to HTC because (since frf50) it's been freezing and I need to pull the battery to restart. I don't want to though.

suicide_trend said:
Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
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root and warranty in the EU/UK

Hi,
I am sorry if this common knowledge around here, but it took me a while to find so I thought it might be worth posting this info here.
I am considering rooting just so that I can save large files from games to my sd card, I was worried about this knox thing (never had a Samsung before) and voiding my warranty just so I can do this.
I have found the following post that seems to confirm that rooting alone DOES NOT void your warranty if you are in the UK, regardless of what happens to Knox...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
This forum is obviously international and this just applies to the EU, but I thought it worth posting if it helps others like it helped me.

WARNING!!!
Before you unknowingly get people into bad situation you might want to consider this post as-well. Your link is very old and has been refused on several instances. Basically has not created any useful precedence to my knowledge.
Also KNOX put a whole new spin on the issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45570695&postcount=4

I posted it before in one of the topic, but Im gonna repost again.
Regarding this topic discussed and this EU directive, I contacted both, Samsung Latvia, aswell as Consumer Rights Protection Centre.
In short - Samsung still stands on its warranty card, saying that rooting will void the warranty.
CRPC States, that they take sides with Samsung. Because they have such point in warranty, they cannot "protect me".
So only way something would change in Latvia (its in EU) is, if I would take Samsung to court telling that, the "rooting voids warranty" point in their warranty card is against EU rules (or w/e rules) and court would agree on me. No way Im doing that
Whats unofficial way of dealing against KNOX 0x1 when you take your phone to warranty service center is different story. Sometimes they might just fix your phone under warranty and reset the fuse (Like it was sayd in different post). Just dont count on that.

Hmmm, thanks,
This looks to be a very complex area, I was not meaning to mislead and I apologise if that's what has happened.
There looks to be a lot of concussion over who the warranty is actually with, either EE (in my case) or Samsung. I have to admit I don't understand the difference, if there is some law that states that the phone should be covered by the warranty, then what does it matter who it is with?
Has there been no precedent of someone having their phone rooted and still having it covered under warranty?
i also don't understand why Knox changed things? My understanding from reading some Samsung press is that Knox is designed for business platforms where the 'one device for work and home' idea can be supported by corporations it departments to make sure the devices are safe. It's disappointing that this same technology prevents personal users from doing what we want with our phones.
i appreciate that all I am trying to do is save large files (in this case for games) is a google policy change, not Samsung, but if rooting is the only way that I can utilise the expansion that the SD offers then it's also disappointing that this would void my warranty?!
I understand the 'root voids warranty' that is plastered all over can, but am just asking...

btw
I do not understand why even the warranty is lost just because I got root??? whether it is this or that Samsung or HTC or some other mobile.
I find it this is an old primitive law.
For me it means: root = admin
Fo example: I'm admin on my PC with Win7 and I still do have warranty for all my coponents or?
Just try to imagine you loose warranty for your motherboard or graphik card cos you have admin rights. lol
A S5 is for me like an PC that I can use how I want it to.

In Sweden we have a nice law for the consumer.
Warranty is totally optional. Samsung voids the warranty when rooting but we have something called "reklamationsrätt".
This forces the seller (not Samsung) to fix the phone (factory faults) within 3 years from purchase. The store has to solve the problem with Samsung (not our problem).
http://www.hallakonsument.se/other-languages/other-languages/english-engelska1/consumer-sales-act/
"During the first six months after the purchase, it is up to the seller to prove that the fault did not exist when the good was first purchased. When more than six months have passed after the purchase, the onus is upon you as the purchaser, to prove that the fault existed from the very beginning.
According to the Consumer Sales Act, your right to complain expires three years after you received the good. This applies to goods and services you purchased on that day or later. The product may have a guarantee period shorter than three years, but this does not shorten the complaint period according to the act."
Burden of proof is much higher for businesses compared to the consumer.
We really don't need the warranty here.
It is always optional for the seller to provide guarantees. They can't negotiate their way around "reklamationsrätten" regulated in the consumer purchases act. IT'S THE LAW!
Read about warranty here:
http://www.hallakonsument.se/other-languages/other-languages/english-engelska1/warranties/
So, if they can't prove that the fault is caused by root, they can't deny us to get it fixes. After the six months they will still fix obvious errors that can not be explained by root or bad use. As I said, the burden of proof is much lower for the consumer.
Other countries could have laws like this? At least within EU?
Edit:
I understand why Samsung voids the warranty. Samsung can't be held responsible for problems with the software on the phone if you have modified it. Then it is not something that Samsung want's to waste money on to fix. It's your problem.

Orka82 said:
In Sweden we have a nice law for the consumer.
Warranty is totally optional. Samsung voids the warranty when rooting but we have something called "reklamationsrätt".
This forces the seller (not Samsung) to fix the phone (factory faults) within 3 years from purchase. The store has to solve the problem with Samsung (not our problem).
http://www.konsumentverket.se/otherlanguages/English/Consumer-rights/Defective-goodsComplaint-/
"During the first six months after the purchase, it is up to the seller to prove that the fault did not exist when the good was first purchased. When more than six months have passed after the purchase, the onus is upon you as the purchaser, to prove that the fault existed from the very beginning.
According to the Consumer Purchases Act, your right to complain expires three years after you received the good. This applies to goods and services you purchased on that day or later. The product may have a guarantee period shorter than three years, but this does not shorten the complaint period according to the act."
Burden of proof is much higher for businesses compared to the consumer.
We really don't need the warranty here.
It is always optional for the seller to provide guarantees. They can't negotiate their way around "reklamationsrätten" regulated in the consumer purchases act. IT'S THE LAW!
Read about warranty here:
http://www.konsumentverket.se/otherlanguages/English/Consumer-rights/Guarantee/
So, if they can't prove that the fault is caused by root, they can't deny us to get it fixes. After the six months they will still fix obvious errors that can not be explained by root or bad use. As I said, the burden of proof is much lower for the consumer.
Other countries could have laws like this? At least within EU?
Edit:
I understand why Samsung voids the warranty. Samsung can't be held responsible for problems with the software on the phone if you have modified it. Then it is not something that Samsung want's to waste money on to fix. It's your problem.
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Nice post. I can't understand why they can't just void the software side of warranty...

craigcrawford1988 said:
Nice post. I can't understand why they can't just void the software side of warranty...
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I rooted my Galaxy S 5 the second day I got it but that was my choice and whenever you root your device you must realise the minute something goes wrong it is your own responsibility to fix it. The software in an android phone is responsible for a lot of aspects considering hardware like managing how hot and fast the cpu is, how your light works, your file system etc. The hardware is designed in a very specific manner and is set to run in a specific manner, when you root your phone you can change all that. You can force the hardware to run in "untested" ways so Samsung and other mobile manufacturers will not support when things go wrong because you use the phone in the way it wasn't designed to do.
I wouldn't go jumping on the rooting bandwagon if you're unsure about anything. I'd say do your research first and ask yourself why you want to root and also ask yourself are you going to be able to afford to fix it when things go wrong? I rooted my phone to change how my phone looks and get rid of things I don't need. Just remember when you root you cannot expect to receive help from the manufacturer when it goes wrong.

gareth261987 said:
I rooted my Galaxy S 5 the second day I got it but that was my choice and whenever you root your device you must realise the minute something goes wrong it is your own responsibility to fix it. The software in an android phone is responsible for a lot of aspects considering hardware like managing how hot and fast the cpu is, how your light works, your file system etc. The hardware is designed in a very specific manner and is set to run in a specific manner, when you root your phone you can change all that. You can force the hardware to run in "untested" ways so Samsung and other mobile manufacturers will not support when things go wrong because you use the phone in the way it wasn't designed to do.
I wouldn't go jumping on the rooting bandwagon if you're unsure about anything. I'd say do your research first and ask yourself why you want to root and also ask yourself are you going to be able to afford to fix it when things go wrong? I rooted my phone to change how my phone looks and get rid of things I don't need. Just remember when you root you cannot expect to receive help from the manufacturer when it goes wrong.
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Im thinking about PC and Windows. Its responsible for the same stuff. If you want, you can cook your PC in breakfeast... But still - I have full access on my computer, I want same things on my phone. And it shouldnt void the warranty...

Stiflerlv said:
Im thinking about PC and Windows. Its responsible for the same stuff. If you want, you can cook your PC in breakfeast... But still - I have full access on my computer, I want same things on my phone. And it shouldnt void the warranty...
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the computer is still more robust in that sense, also if you deleted files from windows which you shouldn't delete then the manufacturer would not fix it for free. If you fried the motherboard due to over clocking your computer that too wouldn't be covered by warranty. Now am not defending the manufacturers but with the amount of people that brick phones or root without knowing what they're doing would cost a lot of money to rectify.

Stiflerlv said:
Im thinking about PC and Windows. Its responsible for the same stuff. If you want, you can cook your PC in breakfeast... But still - I have full access on my computer, I want same things on my phone. And it shouldnt void the warranty...
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gareth261987 said:
the computer is still more robust in that sense, also if you deleted files from windows which you shouldn't delete then the manufacturer would not fix it for free. If you fried the motherboard due to over clocking your computer that too wouldn't be covered by warranty. Now am not defending the manufacturers but with the amount of people that brick phones or root without knowing what they're doing would cost a lot of money to rectify.
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and I would never go for service center just because of software glitch... Reinstall and move on. Same goes for Phones. Its normal if they wouldnt cover software problems with rooted phones, and approch same way you can apporch computers - reinstall -> test -> give back.

BIG WARNING before you buy an Asus android devices

Long story short:
If you UNLOCK BOOTLOADER of your device, you FULLY VOID the WARRANTY of the device.
Yes, defective screens, batteries....your warranty is not covering anything once you unlock your device using Asus's official unlock app.
You may wonder why Asus designed an app to unlock the bootloader of your device? Because when you unlock it, the app connects to Asus's server on internet, submit your device's serial number, and Asus knows that a device with such serial number is not under warranty anymore.
End of story. I learned it the hard way.
Want a good rooted device?
Go Samsung, Google Nexus, HTC
Google and HTC have clearly stated that unless the damage on the android device is caused by unlocking the bootloader, the device will be under warranty.
From my searches online you can re-lock your Samsung devices and you get your warranty.
My new Oneplus One phone even offers 1 time first year accidental screen replacement just like htc m8 in the US.
As of tablets, the Nexus series are always the best choices.
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Now, if you live in a region where there're laws enforcing hardware warranty of bootloader unlocked devices, you might have a chance to fight it back, but consider what you might need to go through I'd ask why not buy a better device with better warranty?

Why did that come as a surprise????
It's stated clearly when you run the unlock tool and BEFORE you hit "I agree".....

It seems like every ROM and kernel thread for Asus tablets on XDA warns you about this, so I don't know how you missed it.
The latest Samsung tablets like the Galaxy Tab S will also present a warranty problem, because depending upon which model you get there currently may be no way to root them or flash a new ROM without tripping Samsung's annoying Knox counter, which will void your warranty.
I know because I recently had problems booting my TF701T -- out of warranty because I had unlocked it -- and researched the other 10 inch tablets out there. Nexus tablets don't have SD card slots, which is a deal-breaker for me. HTC doesn't make its own brand tablets anymore, so I don't know why you mentioned them -- the only tablet they make right now is the Nexus 9.
I wasn't impressed with the offerings from Lenovo and Sony either, not after using a high DPI device like the TF701T. So I was pretty relieved when I got my Asus tablet working again and didn't have to buy another one.
You don't mention why you needed warranty service, or why you unlocked your bootloader.

berndblb said:
Why did that come as a surprise????
It's stated clearly when you run the unlock tool and BEFORE you hit "I agree".....
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Not before I purchaseed the product.....

Danforth said:
It seems like every ROM and kernel thread for Asus tablets on XDA warns you about this, so I don't know how you missed it.
The latest Samsung tablets like the Galaxy Tab S will also present a warranty problem, because depending upon which model you get there currently may be no way to root them or flash a new ROM without tripping Samsung's annoying Knox counter, which will void your warranty.
I know because I recently had problems booting my TF701T -- out of warranty because I had unlocked it -- and researched the other 10 inch tablets out there. Nexus tablets don't have SD card slots, which is a deal-breaker for me. HTC doesn't make its own brand tablets anymore, so I don't know why you mentioned them -- the only tablet they make right now is the Nexus 9.
I wasn't impressed with the offerings from Lenovo and Sony either, not after using a high DPI device like the TF701T. So I was pretty relieved when I got my Asus tablet working again and didn't have to buy another one.
You don't mention why you needed warranty service, or why you unlocked your bootloader.
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Got a defective screen......but then I used HTC, nexus, and apple devices before, and none voids your hardware warranty for unlock bootloader/jailbreaking....... and you don't ask why ppl unlock bootloader on xda?

alvinma said:
Got a defective screen......but then I used HTC, nexus, and apple devices before, and none voids your hardware warranty for unlock bootloader/jailbreaking....... and you don't ask why ppl unlock bootloader on xda?
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I asked why because I am wondering how you avoided reading any of the warnings in all of the Asus ROM and kernel threads. Pretty much all the instruction posts include the warning. I thought perhaps you had decided to unlock without first deciding on a particular ROM. But then, as berndblb mentioned above, there's that final warning when you run the unlock tool...
Given all the complaints about defective docks, I made sure to use my TF701T for more than a month before unlocking, to give time for any hardware flaws to show up. I also always read up about what is involved in rooting/replacing the ROM for any device BEFORE I even buy it, which is why I ruled out getting a new Samsung Galaxy Tab S.
Sorry to sound so unsympathetic -- it does suck that your display crapped out AFTER you unlocked it -- but I guess you'll just have to consider this a lesson hard-learned.
EDIT: I wanted to add that, not only does Samsung have Knox -- meaning you can potentially void your warranty just by rooting it -- Apple also reserves the right to refuse warranty repairs if your device is jailbroken. That means that you can get screwed if your device ends up in a state where you can't remove the jailbreak, even if the jailbreak had nothing to do with the problem.

To be honest I agree with OP. I have had so many devices through the years, HTC, Sony, Motorola, Samsung, Apple... I have always been into unlocking and rooting.
In EVERY rom thread for EVERY device you can read that you will loose warranty etc if you flash! So there is no difference here at the Asus forums of course.
The difference is that no other manufacturer that I know really use the serial number this way and deny you the hardware warranty after unlocking bootloader!
Software warranty would be understandable since you modify the software.
I have sent so many different devices for repairs, everyone unlocked and/or rooted and I have never had a problem. Sony, Samsung, HTC, Motorola... No problem at all.
I thought this would be the case with Asus too, but when I have been in contact with their technical support they clearly states that after unlocking the bootloader you will loose the complete original warranty, inclunding for hardware faults.

Its a good product. A good buy once safely rooted.
However I agree if you don't really find out without researching.
It shouldn't be difficult for Asus to stand behind the product with good service at least of all things.
Maybe it sounds crazy, but they should say "You root you void your warranty, but we fix it anyway?!"
"What on earth have you got to be kidding. We dont pull those stunts."
And maybe some places do fix it anyway. But as a result these things dont sell.

I'll throw in my 2 cents also.
Most of the other manufactures also state that if you unlock/root your warranty is void. The difference is, most of them do not provide a way for you to do it.
For most of the others the only way to root was with an exploit and then you could either unroot for warranty or mess it up so bad that they couldn't tell that it had been rooted.
I agree with the Asus policy, you mess around with it anyway then it's your problem.
It is clearly stated on their website that it voids warranty, if your complaint is that you didn't know before you bought it then that is your fault. Did you do any research on their website before you bought it, did you look at any threads here on xda? If you bought it so that you could root it you should have know, if you bought it because you liked it and then you read all the warnings and rooted it because you could after, then it's your own fault. Sorry
I could make analogies to other things about how it is similar but the bottom line is their warranty specifically says that if you rooted it your warranty is gone. It is clearly stated and you ignored it.

STILL, there is a big difference between Asus and other manufacturers!
Sony also provides unlocking tool, says unlocking MAY void warranty, but issues such as known hardware problems is still covered.
HTC also provides unlocking tool, says unlocking MAY void warranty and hardware problems non-related to unlocking seems to still be covered.
Samsung uses it's KNOX system which does not register the serial number when unlocking but make a flag in the phones bootloader. Samsung handles this different in different countries but generally it seems to be no problem to still get the phone repaired under warranty.
So when Asus register your serial number when you unlock the bootloader and then denies ALL warranty claims is not "something every manufacturer does".
And with the TF701 which has some big quality issues, like keyboard dock, loose glass, why would these not be covered by warranty just because the software is modified? It does not make sense.

I bought an unlocked TF701T on ebay. It was unusable with lots of phantom touches. I chatted with Asus service and explicitly stated that the device was rooted and unlocked. They said it was under warranty and gave me an RMA number. A week after I shipped it the tablet came back repaired. I was quite pleased with their service.
Sorry, I know that's like gasoline on the fire if someone had a bad experience. But they did well and I have to give them credit.

That's good to hear! In which country do you live?

Do NOT buy ASUS ever !!! this tablet is piece of s***.... sorry but it is the truth
hi guys,
I can only confirm what other users have stated about bad experience with asus tf701t , on paper it looks very nice, but the reality is very different ! do not waste your money on a company that is looking for one shot users.
I bought mine from amazon, and from the very beginning i had problem with screen sensitivity, sometimes there are phantom zones, means when i touch the screen nothing happens, like at the top when trying to roll out the android menu. (middle top part of the screen)
So since i am a very loyal asus customer, (laptop ROG, motherboards, asus infinity 700,) i was used to 'ok' quality, so i was not suspecting hardware. I thought my issue was software related. So i flashed and updated my rom.
Unfortunately it DID NOT resolve my problem, so that proved me that the problem is hardware related. So i write ASUS customer support, and they refused to repair their piece of crap they sold me. Hidding behind the warranty policy...very lame !
They refused to face the facts. I wrote a second time kindly to ask them to reconsider, since i am a good customer and i am asking for the first time the support that i deserved, since my tablet is just 6months old, and problems started from day 1 !!
ASUS told me i could send the tablet and so a check to see what needs to be replaced for EUR 75 , and only then a quote could be made about how much more I would need to pay for the repair... GIVE ME A BREAK !
First they sell me untested hardware...because if it would have been gone through proper quality test it would have ended in the garbage can and not on shelves.
The quality and success through time of a company comes not only from what you build but the support you give to your customers, and also know to admit when you build and publish crap on the market !
Sorry to be so hard, but honestly between the way i have been treated and the way I describe it to you, i am polite.
I will NEVER ever in this life BUY Asus again. Farewell to asus and burn in hell...
So think twice give before you buy asus. I hope this review will give you also a preview of what this Asus tablet is.

alvinma said:
Long story short:
If you UNLOCK BOOTLOADER of your device, you FULLY VOID the WARRANTY of the device.
Yes, defective screens, batteries....your warranty is not covering anything once you unlock your device using Asus's official unlock app.
You may wonder why Asus designed an app to unlock the bootloader of your device? Because when you unlock it, the app connects to Asus's server on internet, submit your device's serial number, and Asus knows that a device with such serial number is not under warranty anymore.
End of story. I learned it the hard way.
Want a good rooted device?
Go Samsung, Google Nexus, HTC
Google and HTC have clearly stated that unless the damage on the android device is caused by unlocking the bootloader, the device will be under warranty.
From my searches online you can re-lock your Samsung devices and you get your warranty.
My new Oneplus One phone even offers 1 time first year accidental screen replacement just like htc m8 in the US.
As of tablets, the Nexus series are always the best choices.
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Now, if you live in a region where there're laws enforcing hardware warranty of bootloader unlocked devices, you might have a chance to fight it back, but consider what you might need to go through I'd ask why not buy a better device with better warranty?
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With Unlock can't Asus refuse warranty in EU and CH generelly. A short letter from my adovator and Asus repair under warrenty my laudspeaker. Only defects with connection with Unlock can refuse from Asus, but ASUS must prove relation.
ASUS AGB are not allowed in EU or CH and violate law. Paper are patience and not all was wrote is true

It probably depends on certain issues and the extend of damage like if you dropped it or something. Edit: If ASUS DOESNT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT. Unless they change their tune I wont buy another Asus thing.

Asus warranty
Your Asus warranty is of no use anyway. Here's my experience:
I bought the tf701 when it came out. I read a lot of reviews, watched Youtube reviews and so on.
When I received it I noticed that the tablet did not sit firmly in the keyboard dock. However there were no other problems so I did not care. After a few weeks I noticed connectivity problems between the dock and the tablet. I found out that many people had that problem and that all docks are affected from the first and second batch (not a single word about that in any reviews I watched previously). I wrote Asus and they told me to talk to the vendor where I bought it. this vendor (eGlobal) asked me to send my tablet and dock to them on my own costs, what I did. after 8 weeks or so I got it back in a worse shape than before. Not only the problem has not been fixed, one of the rubber feet was missing and the tablet had some scratches on the back side. eGlobal told me that it was Asus' fault, so I contacted Asus again. They were replying with the same message (copy&pasted), no matter what I wrote them, that I have to contact my vendor. eGlobal was likewise uncooperative blaming Asus instead. The tablet was still under warranty but all I got from it were some scratches and a missing rubber foot.
I got Asus mainboard, display and other hardware but this was definitely the last time that I bought an Asus product.

You should direct your frustration against the people that deserve it - your vendor (eGlobal) as it is they that have the support. The manufacturer is not involved (at least if you are located in Europe - aren't quite sure how the laws are in other parts of the world). If you have received your goods back from repair in damaged condition, you should take it up with the vendor...

I am located in Europe. My experience with ASUS support is that they are quick to reply and I have never had a problem with getting a warranty service approved (yet). I have sent in two computers (one computer two times and the other four times) and my TF701 two times. The irritating thing is that they give you a date (but no time) when the transport company will come and pick it up which means I have to take a day off work just sitting at home waiting for the transport company. When they want to deliver it to me it's the same thing, they give you a date and you are supposed to wait at home whole day.
The most irritating thing about this is that the transport company (in my case DHL) has a service point just around the corner from my house but they will not accept that I leave the box there, they HAVE to collect it at my home. Every other company I have sent products for warranty service to have given me the option to leave it at a service point and then collect it there.
ASUS service work shop in Czech Republic where all my services have been sent seems to have problems with understanding English since they often just fix some of the problems I have had, not all of them.

HeartWare42 said:
You should direct your frustration against the people that deserve it - your vendor (eGlobal) as it is they that have the support. The manufacturer is not involved (at least if you are located in Europe - aren't quite sure how the laws are in other parts of the world). If you have received your goods back from repair in damaged condition, you should take it up with the vendor...
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The faulty product comes from Asus. The repair that achieved absolute nothing was done by Asus and overall support from Asus isnt that great. Sure, I will not buy from that vendor again because their support lacks as well. Bottomline is that your warranty is worth nothing at all.

does op not realize that both iterations of nexus 7 tablets are made my asus? so recommending against asus, but recommending a nexus tablet is... well... dumb... Asus makes amazing products. just do a bit of research before purchasing, and especially before rooting and you will be fine. I own both a nexus 7 gen 2 and a transformer tf701 both unlocked and rooted. never had a single issue with either, and if it werent for rooting and the custom rom community my transformer would still be stuck on KK rather than able to run both LP and linux simultaniously... again, asus makes great products. I'd go asus over samsung any day... KNOX is a *****..

Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G Cloudy / Distorted/ Pixelated Display when black

Hi there,
I've recently bought the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G ( SM-G781B) and I've noticed part of the display is cloudy/distorted when black.
It's most noticeable on the lock screen, or whenever the background is black.
It looks like some sort of defect. Does anyone have any ideas?
I noticed some cloudiness (to a lesser degree) on my Samsung Galaxy S8.
I bought the S20 FE brand new from Samsung.
I've attached some images for reference.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

If you just bought it, what's the point of making a thread? Just bring it back to the shop and show defect.

bladez said:
If you just bought it, what's the point of making a thread? Just bring it back to the shop and show defect.
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Because a similar effect happened on the S8 so not sure if it's just Samsung displays or something else. Mostly visible when the room is dark so it's hard to show when the room is lit.

This is the lottery of OLED screens. Some are perfect and some are (defective) like this.

Mine has a uniformity issue, too. It's only visible in low brightness dark gray when in a dark room, so I decided to keep mine. I've seen similar issues in other oled panels of Galaxy and Pixel phones as well before. There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad, I would just return it and get another one because I heard Samsung is tough on exchange or repair for this kind of display issue.

tkshk said:
There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad, I would just return it and get another one because I heard Samsung is tough on exchange or repair for this kind of display issue.
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Is it possible to get a replacement (UK) if the phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked?
My fear is that if I don't get it repaired/replaced, it may get worse over time, and then I'm stuck with it.

Not sure about the exchange policy in the UK. The display uniformity didn't get worse over time in my old phones.

Only problem is the Samsung stores are closed in the UK at the moment.

user128494 said:
Is it possible to get a replacement (UK) if the phone is rooted and the bootloader is unlocked?
My fear is that if I don't get it repaired/replaced, it may get worse over time, and then I'm stuck with it.
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EU law set a president years ago that even if the phone is rooted Samsung have to honor the hardware warranty. But if your that worried back up your data and flash the stock rom back to the phone via ODIN before you send it off to Samsung. Clearly there is something wring with the display on your unit.

tkshk said:
There is no guarantee you get a better panel for a replacement as mentioned in the comment above. If the un-uniformity is too bad
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The issue is the S20FE has an AMOLED screen so there is NO backlight, you should not being seeing any kind of 'glow' on put black backgrounds. Also my S20FE 5G shows no such defect.

b1k3rdude said:
EU law set a president years ago that even if the phone is rooted Samsung have to honor the hardware warranty. But if your that worried back up your data and flash the stock rom back to the phone via ODIN before you send it off to Samsung. Clearly there is something wring with the display on your unit.
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The problem is, if I do send it off, they may just reject replacement of the item, as in download mode it says Warranty Void: 0x01
On the Samsung Forum a Samsung Mod talks about the warranty being voided in a similar thing:
Re: S10e flashing and warranty question.
So you're saying that by using Samsung's official firmware and tool I voided my warranty? Even tho I never rooted my phone or modified it in any way. I've mot installed any custom roms or anything? Just official stuff. And my warranty void counter on the phone remains at 0. Even tho this still...
eu.community.samsung.com

Thats the KNOX warranty only! Not the hardware warranty, don't let Samsung bully you into believing otherwise.
Of course the mods/admins on a manufacturers forum are going to tow the company line, but its just a community forum. Actual law is what you should pay head to, in this case EU law -
-https://www.piana.eu/root/ - see below
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" Does rooting your device (e.g. an Android phone) and replacing its operating system with something else void your statutory warranty, if you are a consumer?
In short: No. Just the fact that you modified or changed the software of your device, is not a sufficient reason to void your statutory warranty. As long as you have bought the device as a consumer in the European Union.
A bit longer: Directive 1999/44/CE dictates¹ that any object meeting certain criteria (including telephones, computers, routers etc.) being sold to a consumer² inside the European Union, has to carry a warranty from the seller that the device will meet the quality that you would expect for such a device for a period of 2 years. A telephone is an example of such a device and is an object that comprises many parts, from the case to the screen to the radio, to a mini-computer, to the battery, to the software that runs it. If any of these parts³ stop working in those 2 years, the seller has to fix or replace them. What is more these repairs should not cost the consumer a single cent — the seller has to cover the expenses (Directive 1999/44/CE, §3). If the seller has any expenses for returning it to the manufacturer, this is not your problem as a consumer.
If your device becomes defective in the first 6 months, it is presumed that the defect was there all along, so you should not need to prove anything. If your device becomes defective after the first 6 months, but before 2 years run out, you are still covered. The difference is only that if the defect arises now, the seller can claim that the defect was caused by some action that was triggered by non-normal use of the device.
But in order to avoid needing to repair or replace your device, the seller has to prove that your action caused⁵ the defect. It is generally recognised by courts that unless there is a sign of abuse of the device, the defect is there because the device was faulty from the beginning. That is just common sense, after all.
So, we finally come to the question of rooting, flashing and changing the software. Unless the seller can prove that modifying the software, rooting your device or flashing it with some other OS or firmware was the cause for the defect, you are still covered for defects during those 2 years. A good test to see if it is the software’s fault is to flash it back with stock firmware/OS and see if the problem persists. If it does, it is not a software- caused problem. If it is not possible to revert it stock software any more, it is also not a software-caused defect (unless you have “bricked” the phone while flashing it, un-bricking is not covered by any statutory warranty). There are very few hardware defects that are caused by software — e.g. overriding the speaker volume above the safe level could blow the speaker. Many manufacturers of consumer devices write into their warranties a paragraph that by changing the software or “rooting” your device, you void the warranty.
You have to understand that in EU we have a “statutory warranty”, which is compulsory that the seller must offer by law (Directive 1999/44/CE, §7.1) and a “voluntary warranty” which the seller or manufacturer can, but does not need to, offer as an additional service to the consumer. Usually the “voluntary warranty” covers a longer period of time or additional accidents not covered by law.⁶ If though the seller, the manufacturer or anyone else offers a “voluntary warranty”, he is bound to it as well! So, even if, by any chance your “voluntary warranty” got voided, by European law, you should still have the 2 year “compulsory warranty” as it is described in the Directive and which is the topic of this article. In case the seller refuses your right to repair or replace the device, you can sue him in a civil litigation and can report the incident to the national authority. In many European countries such action does not even require hiring a lawyer and is most of the time ensured by consumers associations.
The warranty under this Directive¹ is only applicable inside the European Union and only if you bought the device as a consumer.² "

General UK network provider refusing paid repair

Extremely irritated. I have my UK network provider refusing to perform a paid screen replacement due to Knox being tripped after my 8 year old son dropped and cracked it. This makes no sense to me. If it was a hardware fault that had started for no reason and required a free repair under warranty, I could understand. I've unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, I did this on the understanding that Samsung or my provider might refuse to fix the phone under such circumstances. But a paid repair? WTF? I'm paying you to do it, what does it matter if the Knox flag is tripped. Fortunately, a friend used to work for Samsung as an engineer so I've sourced a touch screen assembly for £260 which is only £30 more than the provider was going to charge and he's going to perform the swap free of charge.
Suffice to say I won't be purchasing a Samsung handset ever again (or any other device by them) and as soon as my contract is up I'm moving to another provider. Obviously, neither will care one iota that they're losing me as a customer, but the idea that I can't root a device I purchased without a permanent hardware flag being present is abhorrent. No issue with Samsung Pay etc not working when rooted, but allow the user to put the device back to full factory stock FFS. No other manufacturer does what Samsung does.

Beefheart said:
Extremely irritated. I have my UK network provider refusing to perform a paid screen replacement due to Knox being tripped after my 8 year old son dropped and cracked it. This makes no sense to me. If it was a hardware fault that had started for no reason and required a free repair under warranty, I could understand. I've unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, I did this on the understanding that Samsung or my provider might refuse to fix the phone under such circumstances. But a paid repair? WTF? I'm paying you to do it, what does it matter if the Knox flag is tripped. Fortunately, a friend used to work for Samsung as an engineer so I've sourced a touch screen assembly for £260 which is only £30 more than the provider were going to charge and he's going to perform the swap free of charge.
Suffice to say I won't be purchasing a Samsung handset ever again (or any other device by them) and as soon as my contract is up I'm moving to another provider. Obviously, neither will care one iota that they're losing me as a customer, but the idea that I can't root a device I purchased without a permanent hardware flag being present is abhorrent. No issue with Samsung Pay etc not working when rooted, but allow the user to put the device back to full stock FFS. No other manufacturer does what Samsung does. I'm going back to Oneplus next year.
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Agree. That e-fuse thing is a really nasty trick by Samsung.
Unfortunately the majority of Samsung's customers dont even know or care what rooting is, let alone delve into Knox and e-fuses etc. I'm sure they're aware of it. But our outcries don't cost them money and they will conveniently ignore us unless there's a big enough number of perople who care about this stuff and make a representation at some legal forum.
End of the day, the sad fact is that as long as their sales don't suffer, or they aren't slapped with massive fines, they have no reason to change any of their policies.

enigmaamit said:
Agree. That e-fuse thing is a really nasty trick by Samsung.
Unfortunately the majority of Samsung's customers dont even know or care what rooting is, let alone delve into Knox and e-fuses etc. I'm sure they're aware of it. But our outcries don't cost them money and they will conveniently ignore us unless there's a big enough number of perople who care about this stuff and make a representation at some legal forum.
End of the day, the sad fact is that as long as their sales don't suffer, or they aren't slapped with massive fines, they have no reason to change any of their policies.
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It's been in place for years now, but this is the first time I've fallen foul of it. After 6 months back in 2016 my S7 Edge developed the dreaded green line down the display screen fault that was common with the early generations of curved Samsung displays and I sent it back for repair despite my Knox flag being tripped. They replaced it with a brand new phone free of charge. I can only presume they're now being a log more vigilent.
The upshot is that, in the UK (not sure where other countries stand with this), if you root any Samsung handset, don't expect a repair to be performed by any approved Samsung repair center. And that includes paid repairs. You need to source the part and do it yourself. This isn't too bad for the more modular parts like screens. But I'm not even sure some of the other parts are even available to buy if your S21 Ultra develops a more serious fault. It looks like someone could easily end up with a brick they can't repair or even pay to be repaired.
So nice one Samsung, you're no better than Apple these day.

Beefheart said:
Extremely irritated. I have my UK network provider refusing to perform a paid screen replacement due to Knox being tripped after my 8 year old son dropped and cracked it. This makes no sense to me. If it was a hardware fault that had started for no reason and required a free repair under warranty, I could understand. I've unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, I did this on the understanding that Samsung or my provider might refuse to fix the phone under such circumstances. But a paid repair? WTF? I'm paying you to do it, what does it matter if the Knox flag is tripped. Fortunately, a friend used to work for Samsung as an engineer so I've sourced a touch screen assembly for £260 which is only £30 more than the provider was going to charge and he's going to perform the swap free of charge.
Suffice to say I won't be purchasing a Samsung handset ever again (or any other device by them) and as soon as my contract is up I'm moving to another provider. Obviously, neither will care one iota that they're losing me as a customer, but the idea that I can't root a device I purchased without a permanent hardware flag being present is abhorrent. No issue with Samsung Pay etc not working when rooted, but allow the user to put the device back to full factory stock FFS. No other manufacturer does what Samsung does.
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Presumably you rooted and flashed a custom ROM, which tripped knox?
Hopefully the 1st post for whichever ROM you flashed contained a BIG BANNER telling you 'warranty void' and "dont blame me if you brick your phone?" in the process.
Avtually.. plenty of vendors invalidate the handset warranty if you unlock bootloader and flash custom ROMs. (HTC always did this - god reset their soul). Its is not "ethical" or "fair" perhaps but it is common industry parctice and is definitely not illegal.
Always be fully aware and accept that warranty status is most likely voided if YOU CHOOSE to unlock bootloader/root/flash custom ROM
Zero point in posting an angry thread on internet Forums for something you chose to do knowning the potential impact to warranty,

dezborders said:
Presumably you rooted and flashed a custom ROM, which tripped knox?
Hopefully the 1st post for whichever ROM you flashed contained a BIG BANNER telling you 'warranty void' and "dont blame me if you brick your phone?" in the process.
Avtually.. plenty of vendors invalidate the handset warranty if you unlock bootloader and flash custom ROMs. (HTC always did this - god reset their soul). Its is not "ethical" or "fair" perhaps but it is common industry parctice and is definitely not illegal.
Always be fully aware and accept that warranty status is most likely voided if YOU CHOOSE to unlock bootloader/root/flash custom ROM
Zero point in posting an angry thread on internet Forums for something you chose to do knowning the potential impact to warranty,
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My dear, the man says that he knows that his phone is OUT OF GARANTY and want to pay for the repair ,but samsung refuses...

dezborders said:
Presumably you rooted and flashed a custom ROM, which tripped knox?
Hopefully the 1st post for whichever ROM you flashed contained a BIG BANNER telling you 'warranty void' and "dont blame me if you brick your phone?" in the process.
Avtually.. plenty of vendors invalidate the handset warranty if you unlock bootloader and flash custom ROMs. (HTC always did this - god reset their soul). Its is not "ethical" or "fair" perhaps but it is common industry parctice and is definitely not illegal.
Always be fully aware and accept that warranty status is most likely voided if YOU CHOOSE to unlock bootloader/root/flash custom ROM
Zero point in posting an angry thread on internet Forums for something you chose to do knowning the potential impact to warranty,
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Presumably YOU read my opening post before quoting and responding to it. But IT appears not.
Let me help you out. There is a substantial difference between refusing warranty repair if the handset goes back with the bootloader unlocked and/or the phone rooted, and permanently flagging a device as having been unlocked and rooted at some point so as to refuse repair even if it's returned with the bootloader re-locked and a stock rom flashed. HTC devices (and all other manufacturers to my knowledge) could always be put back into a complete factory state, providing the fault with the device wasn't such that prevented it being done, and the warranty was then honoured. With Samsung Knox, tripping is permanent.
And READ please before responding to someone. I never said I expected a warranty repair, I've owned enough Samsung devices to know tripping Knox can well result in a refusal if a handset develops a fault and I rooted my S21 Ultra knowing this. But I DO expect to be able to pay for a screen replacement if it ends up being damaged in an accident, Knox flag or not. Hence my annoyance.

Beefheart said:
Presumably YOU read my opening post before quoting and responding to it. But IT appears not.
Let me help you out. There is a substantial difference between refusing warranty repair if the handset goes back with the bootloader unlocked and/or the phone rooted, and permanently flagging a device as having been unlocked and rooted at some point so as to refuse repair even if it's returned with the bootloader re-locked and a stock rom flashed.
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Try and see it from the manufacturers' point of view... they have no idea what software you have run and what root level functions you have used . .e.g. CPU overclocking, and other out of spec HW settings - things that could protentially damage the hardware.
Once you - the customer - choose to unlock bnootloader and / or root a device you give up your right to manufacturers warranty.
Don't pretend you did not know this before you did it. This was your decision so be a man and accept the consequences.
Big boys don't cry.... well maybe the Snowflakes do... ?
P.S.
Standard warning text on almost every root or ROM thread:
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or your getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.

bromonano said:
My dear, the man says that he knows that his phone is OUT OF GARANTY and want to pay for the repair ,but samsung refuses...
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Why should manufacturer be forced to repair a warranty voided device?
The OP made a consious decision to root and give up his rights to manufacturer support.
See my previous reply to OP expaining WHY manufacturers should not be expected to repair rooted devices.

dezborders said:
Try and see it from the manufacturers' point of view... they have no idea what software you have run and what root level functions you have used . .e.g. CPU overclocking, and other out of spec HW settings - things that could protentially damage the hardware.
Once you - the customer - choose to unlock bnootloader and / or root a device you give up your right to manufacturers warranty.
Don't pretend you did not know this before you did it. This was your decision so be a man and accept the consequences.
Big boys don't cry.... well maybe the Snowflakes do... ?
P.S.
Standard warning text on almost every root or ROM thread:
* Your warranty is now void.
* I am not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or your getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at me for messing up your device, I will laugh at you.
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Right, so it's more a comprehension issue you have, rather than an outright inability or refusal to read? Or perhaps you not quoting the final paragraph in my last post was deliberate so you could continue with your strawman?
I'll make this simple. I'll even use bullets to make things easier.
I'm NOT expecting a warranty repair, I'm fully aware my phone warranty was voided when I tripped Knox. And furthermore, it's not a warranty repair anyway given that the screen was damaged.
I AM expecting to be able to pay for a repair, with any costs Samsung or my provider incur to be passed onto myself, EVEN IF THE WARRANTY HAS BEEN VOIDED OR HAS EXPIRED.
There we go, nice and simple. In short, you seem to be confused between a device being repaired under warranty, and a device being repaired with the cost being passed onto the user. If it was a warranty repair being refused, this thread wouldn't exist.
I hope this helps, I really can't make it any easier to understand.

Anyway, onto better news, the new screen assembly arrived today, and I have a genuine S21 Ultra gasket arriving tomorrow which means full IP68 should be maintained once the rear panel is put back on.
Should have it up and running by close of play by Thursday and it can't come a minute too soon. I've been on my work iPhone Xs dual simmed with an eSim for the last 10 days. Horrible phones, really makes you appreciate Android and the freedom it comes with.

Beefheart said:
Anyway, onto better news, the new screen assembly arrived today, and I have a genuine S21 Ultra gasket arriving tomorrow which means full IP68 should be maintained once the rear panel is put back on.
Should have it up and running by close of play by Thursday and it can't come a minute too soon. I've been on my work iPhone Xs dual simmed with an eSim for the last 10 days. Horrible phones, really makes you appreciate Android and the freedom it comes with.
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Bad adventure indeed.
I think someone at Samsung decided that warranty void IS warranty void, no exception at all. And you got caught in this bad situation...
Maybe because of covid times, they need to be so much stricter to save manual labour time ?
I agree with you that a software non issue should not impact a hardware issue, but since when "should not" have done anything about all that ?

dezborders said:
Why should manufacturer be forced to repair a warranty voided device?
The OP made a consious decision to root and give up his rights to manufacturer support.
See my previous reply to OP expaining WHY manufacturers should not be expected to repair rooted devices.
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Man... you really need to learn to read before you post. The OP is not requesting a warranty repair. Instead he's offering to pay for their service.

Beefheart said:
I'm NOT expecting a warranty repair, I'm fully aware my phone warranty was voided when I tripped Knox. And furthermore, it's not a warranty repair anyway given that the screen was damaged.
I AM expecting to be able to pay for a repair, with any costs Samsung or my provider incur to be passed onto myself, EVEN IF THE WARRANTY HAS BEEN VOIDED OR HAS EXPIRED.
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Nope I totally understood the OP.
- I know you accept you voided your warranty and I know you expect/want to pay Samsung to repair your phone.
However lets take the analogy a bit further. Lets say Samsung repairs your phone and charges you £200 for the work.
1 week after you get your phone back, a new fault appears.... lets say a CPU fault.
- did Saumsung engineer cause the new fault
- did a rooted ROM overclock CPU or disable thermal CPU throttling protection cause heat damage to the CPU
- "my 8 year old son dropped and cracked it" ... perhaps impact with the floor also cracked the motherboard
- is this a random manufacturing fault (but your warranty is already void so do you expect Samsung to replace the motherboard)?
Whichever of the above is the casue of the new fault.... do you expect Samsung to repair the new fault?
...And will you pay again for 2nd repair or post a complaint on XDA Forums that Samsung broke your phone during 1st repair?
The reason Samsung and other manufactureres void the warrranty after bootloader is unlocked or custom SW is flashed, is quite simple. They dont EVER want to touch your device again as they cannot be 100% certain what - if any - damage may have been inflicted on the hadware by running unofficial firmware.
Why dont you just take your phone to an independent phone shop and pay them to repair the damage?
Your warranty is voided anyway so why Pay Samsung a (probably) higher repair cost than offered by 3rd party phone shop?
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haobiao009 said:
Man... you really need to learn to read before you post. The OP is not requesting a warranty repair. Instead he's offering to pay for their service.
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I read and understood the OP.... But Samsung does not want his money. They do not want anything to do with his Knox tripped phone.

If you unlock the phone the warranty is void, we all understand that bit. They will not repair under warranty because UK law would require them to respect the warranty by repairing it.
This would apply to a paid repair as well, a paid repair would come with some warranty for the repair forcing them to provide a warranty of a device that they cannot support because you chose to unlock. This creates a legal grey area for you and Samsung so their best option is to not repair it.
If you read the full T&Cs it will state that once unlocked the warranty void and no warranty can be applied to the device. Not even by a paid repair.
I stopped rooting my phones years ago because of this legal issue. Plus the constant maintenance of root is just too time-consuming.

dezborders said:
Nope I totally understood the OP.
- I know you accept you voided your warranty and I know you expect/want to pay Samsung to repair your phone.
However lets take the analogy a bit further. Lets say Samsung repairs your phone and charges you £200 for the work.
1 week after you get your phone back, a new fault appears.... lets say a CPU fault.
- did Saumsung engineer cause the new fault
- did a rooted ROM overclock CPU or disable thermal CPU throttling protection cause heat damage to the CPU
- "my 8 year old son dropped and cracked it" ... perhaps impact with the floor also cracked the motherboard
- is this a random manufacturing fault (but your warranty is already void so do you expect Samsung to replace the motherboard)?
Whichever of the above is the casue of the new fault.... do you expect Samsung to repair the new fault?
...And will you pay again for 2nd repair or post a complaint on XDA Forums that Samsung broke your phone during 1st repair?
The reason Samsung and other manufactureres void the warrranty after bootloader is unlocked or custom SW is flashed, is quite simple. They dont EVER want to touch your device again as they cannot be 100% certain what - if any - damage may have been inflicted on the hadware by running unofficial firmware.
Why dont you just take your phone to an independent phone shop and pay them to repair the damage?
Your warranty is voided anyway so why Pay Samsung a (probably) higher repair cost than offered by 3rd party phone shop?
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You are absolutely correct. People are bashing you because you did come across a bit arrogant, but your reasoning is spot on.
I understand the OP frustration, however, if you look at it from the manufacturer's point of view, you will understand why they don't do it. They don't want to be liable for any other damage that may have been caused by improper use of su access., such as (and especially as) CPU/ GPU overclocking.
The first thought that comes to mind as a customer is: "But I'm paying for it, don't they want my money???" The simple answer is: NO! They DO NOT want your money, it is not worth the trouble of after services support and possible suing in case what I mentioned above happens.
I sympathise with your situation, but Samsung is not wrong here. As dezborders mentioned, look for a third party repairer as they will most likely not care about this, it will cost you less and if you go to a reputable shop, it will be the same level of service as Samsung would deliver.

haobiao009 said:
Man... you really need to learn to read before you post. The OP is not requesting a warranty repair. Instead he's offering to pay for their service.
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Hi all,
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My alarm continues going off at the equal time despite the fact that i've grew to become it off. I'm the clock settings all alarms are off. I suppose an antique alarm could hav been restored drum backup from my Samsung account after I first were given the smartphone. Is there a way to disable the rogue alarm. Please assist as I absolutely do not want to manufacturing facility reset the telephone.
Thanks!!

Beefheart said:
It's been in place for years now, but this is the first time I've fallen foul of it. After 6 months back in 2016 my S7 Edge developed the dreaded green line down the display screen fault that was common with the early generations of curved Samsung displays and I sent it back for repair despite my Knox flag being tripped. They replaced it with a brand new phone free of charge. I can only presume they're now being a log more vigilent.
The upshot is that, in the UK (not sure where other countries stand with this), if you root any Samsung handset, don't expect a repair to be performed by any approved Samsung repair center. And that includes paid repairs. You need to source the part and do it yourself. This isn't too bad for the more modular parts like screens. But I'm not even sure some of the other parts are even available to buy if your S21 Ultra develops a more serious fault. It looks like someone could easily end up with a brick they can't repair or even pay to be repaired.
So nice one Samsung, you're no better than Apple these day.
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Doubt it. Having a broken screen replaced under UK consumer laws cannot be denied because Knox is tripped. You got shafted by the rep talking tripe.

Limeybastard said:
Doubt it. Having a broken screen replaced under UK consumer laws cannot be denied because Knox is tripped. You got shafted by the rep talking tripe.
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Think there was more to it than that. I got the phone back and it was clear when I removed the back to replace the assembly myself, it had already been opened as the gasket had been removed. I suspect they removed the back and were about to perform the repair but then saw the warranty void flag and simply decided they'd rather not bother fixing it even for a cost, the Knox flag was just a convenient excuse.

dezborders said:
Nope I totally understood the OP.
- I know you accept you voided your warranty and I know you expect/want to pay Samsung to repair your phone.
However lets take the analogy a bit further. Lets say Samsung repairs your phone and charges you £200 for the work.
1 week after you get your phone back, a new fault appears.... lets say a CPU fault.
- did Saumsung engineer cause the new fault
- did a rooted ROM overclock CPU or disable thermal CPU throttling protection cause heat damage to the CPU
- "my 8 year old son dropped and cracked it" ... perhaps impact with the floor also cracked the motherboard
- is this a random manufacturing fault (but your warranty is already void so do you expect Samsung to replace the motherboard)?
Whichever of the above is the casue of the new fault.... do you expect Samsung to repair the new fault?
...And will you pay again for 2nd repair or post a complaint on XDA Forums that Samsung broke your phone during 1st repair?
The reason Samsung and other manufactureres void the warrranty after bootloader is unlocked or custom SW is flashed, is quite simple. They dont EVER want to touch your device again as they cannot be 100% certain what - if any - damage may have been inflicted on the hadware by running unofficial firmware.
Why dont you just take your phone to an independent phone shop and pay them to repair the damage?
Your warranty is voided anyway so why Pay Samsung a (probably) higher repair cost than offered by 3rd party phone shop?
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Here's an easier scenario:
He opens it and makes a mistake and now has to replace the motherboard because it was his fault.
No more tripped knox
Half the time they dont even repair the phone right away and just send you a different repaired one and he wouldnt be able to do it in this situation.