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I'm getting excited about the Samsung Gear S Smartwatch that was announced (due in Oct internationally). However, the Tizen OS concerns me a bit because I don't know much about it. What I'd like to do is replacement my smart phone entirely with it, but be able to tether my Wifi Android Table to it when I need the use of a larger form factor. I had a few questions I'm not sure if people already know, or will have to wait until the phone is fully out.
- Can the watch provide internet (via wifi tether) to a Wifi-only android tablet? I'm not sure if Tizen has to be rooted (or some such) to enable the capability.
- Will it be able to connect directly to a bluetooth headset without a smart phone?
- I use the low-cost carrier called PagePlus (operates using Verizon wireless towers). Will I be able to easily get it working on PagePlus as long as they offer one w/ CDMA or LTE?
Today's presentation said it needs to be connected to an approved Samsung phone for setup and to install apps. It will require its own phone plan, and it only does 3G, so even if you could tether it (which I doubt) IMO it would be very slow and kill the battery very fast.
Their current Tizen watches support a bluetooth headset, so this one will probably be able to as well.
Nothing was said about carriers, but I don't know how the required SIM card would work with a CDMA carrier anyway.
Tizen software may be a deal killer. I don't think many developers want to spend time on such minuscule market hardware from Samsung only.
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It looks nice but Tizen? Even Sony is going with Android Wear.
For me a watch can never replace a cell phone.
All the reviews I've read of the new LG Watch Sport say Android Pay works on it, thanks to the giant NFC chip on the bottom. And, formerly smartphone-only functions like "OK Google" and Google Maps are now supposed to work on this watch, even when the linked phone isn't present.
Not true.
I bought the watch on the first day, Feb. 10th, and set it up. Since then it's been on my wrist but it hasn't been away from the Android smartphone it's linked to. But today I needed a new health card for my work and some groceries. So, as I'm new in town, I found a "Doc-In-A-Box" on Google that's nearby and that advertises that they do the government-form DOT physical that my job requires.
I put the doc's office address into "Maps" on my new watch and I told it to navigate there. Leaving the subdivision, though, I noticed the watch was searching for my location. even though it had been fine in the house before I left.
As the weather's nice, I held my hand out the car window, south side to face the satellites, and I drove in the direction I was pretty sure the business was. At each stop light on the way, I checked the watch, wondering why I hadn't heard it yelling directions. At every stop the watch still showed the neighborhood where I'd started, still searching for my exact location.
When I got to the "Doc-In-A-Box", it was still searching. Inside, waiting, the watch eventually gave up, saying "Smartphone required to complete action" or something like that.
As it turned out, the "Doc" was similarly useless, doesn't do DOT physicals. So I pushed the "OK Google" button on the watch to ask it for another place nearby. But "OK Google" wasn't OK at all. Instead of finding another doctor the watch said "Something went wrong. Can't reach Google at the moment". Plenty of bars of cellular and WiFi, too, but instead of "OK" I got "Oh NO".
At the grocery I was going to use the Android Pay I'd linked my bank account to over the previous weekend. As required, I'd even locked the watch screen, for extra security, in case my arm fell off a public place and I didn't notice. My bank must have been really pleased about me activating Android Pay--day after I did it they sent me a long email saying how great and secure Android Pay would be for us both. As I was checking out of the grocery store, since no one was waiting behind me, I unlocked the watch, selected Android Pay, and saw an image of my bank's debit card briefly. But as quickly as it appeared it went away and the system message: "No cards are linked to this account. You must link an account on your smartphone before you may use this app" appeared.
So "Google Maps" on your wrist? Forget it. At best, it's just a second screen. And "OK Google" doesn't work. And neither does Android Pay.
On the plus side? Battery life is good--still ALL DAY, like the LG Watch Urbane 2nd LTE was, even though LG lopped 20% off the size of it.
Edit: The smart watch was not tested with the AT&T SIM in came with but with an MVNO's and this largely or ENTIRELY explains the problems I had with the device. For some reason, it takes a few days for the watch to get reliable connections with the MVNO's SIM--had the same problem with the Urbane 2-LTE when I bought it, but I'd forgotten.
Without a doubt, the LG Watch Sport does everything the LG Watch Urbane 2nd Ed. LTE does and MORE.
Your sure your watch has an active cellular connection? It sounds as if your watch can't reach the internet.
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Cannot comment on Android Pay as I'm not using it, but Maps and Google Assistant works on AW 2.0 DP4 on Watch Urbane 2. So I expect it had some connectivity issues. As for the wifi, it will not connect to any network unless you connect with your phone to the same network first.
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Your sure your watch has an active cellular connection? It sounds as if your watch can't reach the internet.
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Could be. Made a test call Friday or Saturday on it, np. But this morning (Tuesday), no go..
"Settings" > "Connectivity" > "Cellular" > "SIM status" seemed good:
Network: H2O,
Signal strength: -107 dBm 3 asu
Network type: HSPA
Service State: In service
Roaming: Not roaming
Network state: Disconnected
Not sure what "Service state: In service" and Network state: Disconnected" mean, together, so I restarted phone and then could call, np.
Issues may be the MVNO I'm using (H2O Wireless) or AT&T (towers) or the hardware..
FWIW, I had problems for a couple of days with connectivity with my LG Urbane 2nd Ed LTE, too, I'm remembering. It worked itself out around day 4. Presumably this will too.
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Network: H2O,
Signal strength: -107 dBm 3 asu
Network type: HSPA
Service State: In service
Roaming: Not roaming
Network state: Disconnected
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Do the APN settings in the watch look correct for H2O? When I first got my Urbane 2nd Edition, I tried a couple of MVNO (H2O and Ting) but could not get both calls/texts and/or data working until I switched to Truphone. That was over a year ago so maybe it has been corrected.
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Do the APN settings in the watch look correct for H2O? When I first got my Urbane 2nd Edition, I tried a couple of MVNO (H2O and Ting) but could not get both calls/texts and/or data working until I switched to Truphone. That was over a year ago so maybe it has been corrected.
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After verifying that I could make calls this morning, I Iook a second trip into town with the watch, without it's partnered smartphone, GPS on & navigation on. Again it failed to get a location while the car was moving so no Navigation. But today, when I stopped, it figured out where I was. Could be that asking the tiny antenna in the watch to track the tiny signals from a couple of tiny GPS satellites 22,000 miles away, from inside a rolling steel can (hardtop car) could be asking a little much.
I placed a phone call driving down the road & it worked very well.
Running the GPS for two hours plus driving around & making a phone call and opening a couple of web pages on "Web Browser for Android Wear", I'd expect the battery to be tested. Watch has been on my wrist for 10 1/2 hours and I've still got 25% charge remaining. Nice!
This isn't the first "bleeding edge" tech I've bought, or the 2nd or third or... Maybe it's the 20th, dunno. But the two LG watches I've had--the Urbane 2nd Ed. LTE and this Sport--are the most finished, ready-for-prime-time high tech I can recall. Especially the gorgeous Urbane 2 LTE. Works pretty flawlessly & fit and finish are magnificent. I regret posting this because I didn't try the watch thoroughly with the AT&T SIM card it came with. Not fair to LG or AT&T.
I'll check H2O for the tweaked APNs. Knowing LG, I'll bet the few small issues remaining aren't the hardware's fault.
Just wanted to toss in my 2 cents as far as connection issues go. With a T-Mobile Wearable plan, it's working great. Worked on a data line too, except for calls, which are disabled on data lines (despite what the CSRs in India say).
OP, it seems that you have or had both Watch Urbane 2nd Edition LTE and Watch Sport. What is your opinion comparing the Watch Urbante 2nd Edition LTE and LG Watch Sport ? I am especially interested in battery life differences.
Thanks !
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OP, it seems that you have or had both Watch Urbane 2nd Edition LTE and Watch Sport. What is your opinion comparing the Watch Urbante 2nd Edition LTE and LG Watch Sport ? I am especially interested in battery life differences.
Thanks !
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Battery life's the same. Even though the Watch Sport's battery is smaller, I get all-day use out of it in normal use.
For developers, ADB debugging over wifi, the only kind supported by the new Watch Sport, drains the battery quickly if you don't have it on the charger.
Fortunately, the new watch's wireless charging is awesome. With the included wireless stand there're no problematic, sweat-sensitive physical contacts like on the Watch Urbane 2. And,amazing to me, wireless charging's fast--60 or 70% in just 30 minutes or so.
Both watches have worked flawlessly, I noted no difference in the screens, bezel or bands except for color.
Wireless charging is the new Watch Smart's big selling point to me. It also has NFC for Android Pay and a hardware change to the winder that senses spinning. That's utilized in the OS for scrolling screens vertically but developers can trap it and use it for anything. The downside of the newer watch is that it's much thicker and the back is plastic.
The Watch Urbane 2's back is stainless steel, very finely made, engraved with the watch's serial number. And it's thinner--svelte, by comparison.
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Battery life's the same. Even though the Watch Sport's battery is smaller, I get all-day use out of it in normal use.
For developers, ADB debugging over wifi, the only kind supported by the new Watch Sport, drains the battery quickly if you don't have it on the charger.
Fortunately, the new watch's wireless charging is awesome. With the included wireless stand there're no problematic, sweat-sensitive physical contacts like on the Watch Urbane 2. And,amazing to me, wireless charging's fast--60 or 70% in just 30 minutes or so.
Both watches have worked flawlessly, I noted no difference in the screens, bezel or bands except for color.
Wireless charging is the new Watch Smart's big selling point to me. It also has NFC for Android Pay and a hardware change to the winder that senses spinning. That's utilized in the OS for scrolling screens vertically but developers can trap it and use it for anything. The downside of the newer watch is that it's much thicker and the back is plastic.
The Watch Urbane 2's back is stainless steel, very finely made, engraved with the watch's serial number. And it's thinner--svelte, by comparison.
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Thanks for the comparison. I do own a Watch Urbane 2nd Edition LTE, and the wrist band cracked once and needed replacement (under warranty). I now try to wear it more loose on the wrist so as to avoit it happening again.
I was thinking of an "upgrade", but I can't upgrade to a thicker watch with smaller battery. The "new" Snapdragon 2100 wearable processor is built on the same battery-consuming 28nm process as the Snapdragon 400 from the Watch Urbane 2nd Edition LTE, which is a really stupid move from Qualcomm (should have been built on 14nm given the small watch batteries). Also, I already have an issue with the center button which kind of sticks out, at the gym the workout gloves and wrist supports push the button sometimes, on the Watch Sport this could be an even bigger issue (Motorola moved their center button off-center for that reason, I believe).
My battery lasts at least 3 days (72 hours) with screen off (with only notifications and touch waking up the screen) and 3G on but no credit on the prepaid watch SIM (so it can only receive calls forwarded from my phone, it doesn't have Internet access or ability to make calls).
I actually like the wired charging: I had a Motorola Moto 360 first gen (still have it...bricked), which had wireless charging, and suddenly the watch was bricked by Motorola with an update. Since no USB-to-watch adapter was provided in the box, I attempted making one (after removing some seals to reveal the debug pins) and, although it briefly worked, I managed to fry an USB port from my laptop before loading the firmware. Having an USB-to-watch connection brings me a lot of peace of mind
Tag discovery?
Has anyone tried the nfc tag discovery function? Can it read read tags for non-payment purposes? Would buy one if it does
Connectivity issue
I know this is an old thread but I arrived here twice trying to resolve my connectivity issues so others may as well.
My watch could call but seemed to have no Internet connectivity. I've had the watch for several months so I am not sure what caused this problem. I reset it several times and then noticed that I had access to Google Play--so, clearly, I had data - - but Google assistant did not work and I kept getting an error message about the account.
I went to an AT&T store after calling customer service, and they said I needed to warranty exchange the watch. The store personnel just looked at the watch and said they could not change the sim or do any diagnostic.
I called LG and started the warranty process.
Then I used an old email address to set it up, and it worked. So it was definitely a problem with my Google Apps domain and the device policy.
Ultimately, I deleted multiple instances of the watch in Google Apps Domain management - mobile devices and the next reset and setup succeeded.
Hoping that helps someone.
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Battery life's the same. Even though the Watch Sport's battery is smaller, I get all-day use out of it in normal use.
For developers, ADB debugging over wifi, the only kind supported by the new Watch Sport, drains the battery quickly if you don't have it on the charger.
Fortunately, the new watch's wireless charging is awesome. With the included wireless stand there're no problematic, sweat-sensitive physical contacts like on the Watch Urbane 2. And,amazing to me, wireless charging's fast--60 or 70% in just 30 minutes or so.
Both watches have worked flawlessly, I noted no difference in the screens, bezel or bands except for color.
Wireless charging is the new Watch Smart's big selling point to me. It also has NFC for Android Pay and a hardware change to the winder that senses spinning. That's utilized in the OS for scrolling screens vertically but developers can trap it and use it for anything. The downside of the newer watch is that it's much thicker and the back is plastic.
The Watch Urbane 2's back is stainless steel, very finely made, engraved with the watch's serial number. And it's thinner--svelte, by comparison.
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Hi friend, do you know if the bands of both watches are interchangeable?
I'm thinking in buy a new band for my watch sport but it's harder to find a new one than for a urbane 2nd edition.
jairbj said:
Hi friend, do you know if the bands of both watches are interchangeable?
I'm thinking in buy a new band for my watch sport but it's harder to find a new one than for a urbane 2nd edition.
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no they are different or at least one of them is, the sport has one long connector on each strap the Ur 2 has 2x connectors on one of the straps
Hi all,
I've had my LG Watch Sport since the beginning of the year and Android Pay worked fine in Android 7.x on this device. Since the update to Android 8 it is always disabled. I have manually re-enabled it and updated it which then it works for a short while, then it disables itself again.
I've used it fine and the bank I am with supports this, but it is starting to frustrate me that this function has now gone (well, not really, just have to re-enable the app every time I want to use it so not convenient) when I have gotten so used to it. I can use it on my phone fine.
The Android Wear version from the watch information is 2.7.0.1778645119 and there do not seem to be any other updates available at this time.
Someone on one of the Google threads has indicated that it is due to the region being locked on these devices - so if you are not in the US or UK, you cannot use Android Pay.
I am curious to know if you are experiencing this issue if you are located in the US or UK. There doesn't seem to be too much noise in the forums here about this, so I am guessing it is working fine for the US and UK folks where this is supported.
Also wondering if anyone knows how it determines its location - whether it is like the Microsoft Band 2 where you can set your phone up as US first, then change your time zone, etc to your location and keep using it, or if the new Android Wear and Android Pay do a GPS lookup on the watch before operating.
If this works fine for all our US and UK owners, maybe we can set the watch up thinking it is in a different location and see if it gets disabled? It would seem silly to have it disable once set up, as I would forsee travelling with this device and just being able to conveniently use this for both store cards and credit card without having to bring anything else.
I can not believe this, it do not want either.'
Any country that supports Android Pay the app should work
deswong said:
Hi all,
I've had my LG Watch Sport since the beginning of the year and Android Pay worked fine in Android 7.x on this device. Since the update to Android 8 it is always disabled. I have manually re-enabled it and updated it which then it works for a short while, then it disables itself again.
I've used it fine and the bank I am with supports this, but it is starting to frustrate me that this function has now gone (well, not really, just have to re-enable the app every time I want to use it so not convenient) when I have gotten so used to it. I can use it on my phone fine.
The Android Wear version from the watch information is 2.7.0.1778645119 and there do not seem to be any other updates available at this time.
Someone on one of the Google threads has indicated that it is due to the region being locked on these devices - so if you are not in the US or UK, you cannot use Android Pay.
I am curious to know if you are experiencing this issue if you are located in the US or UK. There doesn't seem to be too much noise in the forums here about this, so I am guessing it is working fine for the US and UK folks where this is supported.
Also wondering if anyone knows how it determines its location - whether it is like the Microsoft Band 2 where you can set your phone up as US first, then change your time zone, etc to your location and keep using it, or if the new Android Wear and Android Pay do a GPS lookup on the watch before operating.
If this works fine for all our US and UK owners, maybe we can set the watch up thinking it is in a different location and see if it gets disabled? It would seem silly to have it disable once set up, as I would forsee travelling with this device and just being able to conveniently use this for both store cards and credit card without having to bring anything else.
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I have the same issue. I have had LG Watch Urbane 2nd before and there had been Android Pay working well. Now I have to enable it after approx. 1 hour.
I've got the watch one week ago, there was Android 7.1.1. I had to join beta testing, then I got Oreo.
My country is suported by Oreo and also Android Pay is supported (Czech republic)
Has anybody an idea how to fix this? Very annoying.
Android Wear 2.7.0.178645119
Andtoid OS 8.0.0
Services 11.9.51
1st October 2017
Build OWR1.170919.023
I've got the watch one week ago, there was Android 7.1.1. I had to join beta testing, then I got Oreo.
Android Wear Beta did disable Android Pay.
This is why I refused to sign up for the beta program.
But I got final Oreo, not beta.
I live in Spain LG Watch Sport with Oreo, and I have the same issue[emoji852]️
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Seems like many people are seeing this, me I will refuse any update until I an sure Android Pay will work.
I purchased the watch because it has NFC and Android Pay support.
I live in Taiwan LG Watch Sport with Oreo, and I have the same issue️.
LG or Google should face & fix this problem.
It's a problem for all devices with Oreo, not only LG Watch Sport
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Do you mean all devices or only all wearables? Should I stop upgrading to Oreo on my phone?
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Do you mean all devices or only all wearables? Should I stop upgrading to Oreo on my phone?
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Lots of good info here.
Having read this and upgraded both my smartphone and my watch to Oreo 8, I tried Pay today. And it did work with both the LG watch sport and my Oneplus 5 (rooted). Suprisingly, the Pay on the smartphone now worked in a shop where I could not pay with smartphone/smartwatch before.
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Keep in mind only Non-Americans seem to have issues
How to make a downgrade - Android 7.1.1 Nougat, I really need Android Pay. Does anyone have a factory image?
AstroDigital said:
I can not believe this, it do not want either.'
Any country that supports Android Pay the app should work
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Android Pay on Android Wear supported only in US and UK
I'm Huawei Watch 2 user also probably soon affected by this. To work around this, I prepared a proxy app that takes only two more taps to enable and launch Android Pay. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-pay-enabler-android-pay-oreo-t3750815 Any thoughts/feedback?
Thank you. I appreciate it but we should pust to Google to enable it.
I tried the application and I like it.
One suggestion: is possible to check if Android Pay is enabled and if not, display the page for enabling, if yes, start AP? Then I could set hardware button to your application and it would start what is necessary.
EDIT: I checked source code and you alreadyd did it! Thanks, it works well!
moneytoo said:
I'm Huawei Watch 2 user also probably soon affected by this. To work around this, I prepared a proxy app that takes only two more taps to enable and launch Android Pay. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-pay-enabler-android-pay-oreo-t3750815 Any thoughts/feedback?
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Thank you~
Your app helps us a lot~ :good:
Even the Android Auto for phone screens was retired for Android 12, you can still use it on old Androids 11, 10. A month ago a message appear "Android Auto for phone screens will stop working soon", but still can use it.
Today I tried to start the app and instead appear the Android Auto settings page and no more Android Auto for phone screens. I have Miui 12.5.7 with Android 11 and Android Auto 7.6.621734-release.
Its only me or they kill out AAFPS for good?
For me the same...
Android Auto is now on the scrap heap; in short it will no longer work as a stand-alone.
Google have thrown a kill-switch (2 days ago now) for discrete mode so that now, it can only work in screen-mirroring mode which necessitates a compatible infotainment system/head unit (check the message it opens with).
The official alternative on offer is Driving Mode in the Google Assistant. It's of dubious quality, especially for devices older than Android 10, where it really is just a shortcut to Google Maps.
Alternative apps/launchers are available but they are either expensive or just plain rubbish (and often both).
I'm sorry to hear this is confirmed. So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit.
Driving Mode in the Google Assistant is a just simple no-go. Here in Romania we use a lot Waze for police report, traffic jams and bad roads. Also since romanian language is not supported , you can spell some small commands in english, but to convince it to drive you at address or even to call your mom is very difficult.
So now I'm without alternative .
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...So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit...
...So now I'm without alternative .
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Indeed - and you are not alone as many reviews on Google Play confirm.
One other option is to roll-back to an older version. If you don't have a backup then APKMirror might be for you:-
Android Auto on APKMirror
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
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I'll give it a try: my Renault Megane is half destroyed and now I have to use (for long time) a Seat Leon without AA enabled!
I've started AA on my old (but still running fine) Motorola Moto G5 and is not working anymore... Problem is that the phone is running Android 8.1 so Drive Assistant is not available (it needs at least Android 9!)
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FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
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I'll give it a try
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on my pc I had a few backups, I have removed the current build and installed Android Auto_7.2.620123-release and it worked flawlessly!
I'll look for a more recent build on APKmirror!
Addendum: tried with v7.6 but got the advice. For my Android v8.1 the last working is v7.2!
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
Google are literally murderers , besides all the people they have stranded or driven of the road or over ravines with their crappy maps app
they have probably killed thousands in traffic accidents with their garbage software
,this new "driving mode" is no exception , I mean AA was an absolute out of control garbage fire just like GA is but this "driving mode" is over the top
even for the complete morons over at Google.
I can not tell you how many accidents I have almost got into since they removed trusted voice unlock and now that this POS driving mode has replaced AA it has gotten MUCH worse, they should be sued for this dangerous crap they have forced on us, I will NOT be buying another pixel EVER.
fist of all this POS continually turns the screen off and locks the device forcing me to unlock the phone continuously while driving,
they are so S all stupid they didn't even bother to make it rotate to landscape mode and my car mount is for landscape only. (only people who hold their guns sideways would want to use their phones in portrait mode as they always seem to do when taking word star videos)
the "driving mode" is pure trash ,there are no audio controls, you can't use it if you just want to listen to music and for phone calls because it's tied to maps and you have be using navigation to use it.
there is NOTHING here of any value I mean who TF wants to read the New York Slimes, ever and especially WHILE DRIVING, yeah great replacement to music apps and music controls.
There is no way in hell I would ever give these evil bastards my biometric data so here I am trying to unlock my phone with a pattern every 30 seconds while it is mounted landscape and the unlock pattern is in portrait mode, I have to tilt my head or try and figure out my lock pattern adjusted for it being tilted 90 degree off while I'm driving every 30 seconds because the screen keeps turning off and locking the device even though I have "smartlock" (DUMBlock) enabled and my cars bluetooth added as a "trusted device" as well as a smart band, but it just seems to ignore the fact both are connected.
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs, every single last one of them should have been kicked the F out on their arses a long time ago. , maybe we need to get Elon over there.
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I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
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please don't give up and keep trying other wise I am switching back to IOS, I just can't deal with this S
maybe I can throw away my pixel 3a XL and just go back to my old 6p on Nougat
this is not acceptable, what other options are there, I have an echo auto I never set up maybe that will be better.
peetig said:
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
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F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
My idea is to install an alternative launcher as soon as you are connected to your car's Bluetooth system. I mean a launcher made for driving with big icons and so on.
With tasker you could additionally make a task to increase the display timeout to infinite when connected to your car's Bluetooth system.
gdroid666 said:
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
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Goodbye.
gdroid666 said:
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs,
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Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
gdroid666 said:
maybe we need to get Elon over there.
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Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
xanda-escuyer said:
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
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Thing is most cars don't have it still
the stand alone android units just suck because they don't have any connection method unless they use your phone as a hotspot , unless they have some with sim cards, but now sim cards are being phased out too, and I would not spend more money a month just to keep my head unit connected to GSM
I would buy a head unit if they made one that had wireless android auto baked in but there are none, at least not what I want, I want one for my BMW E46 that looks pretty close to stock, Android head units like that are a dime a dozen for this thing but none of them have AA or wireless AA
,what they should really make is a tablet that has wireless AA built in
or a fire tablet that acts as an echo show auto but with a screen
that you can mount to your dash ,sucks that all the hardware has been there to this for like a decade but because of theese big cancer monopolies we can't use the hardware to its full potential
I have yet to try reloaded yet but I have feeling it will not be good
but here is no reason this can't run on low end tablet like a fire tablet
maybe I will finally get around to trying out my echo auto that I picked up for $20 that has been sitting here not even unboxed for over a year now
thing is that my grom unit is a PITA to pair to my phone , you need to pull 3 different fuses to erase it and repair a new device and then once you do the feature that send the ID4 tags to the display on the radio might not work then you have to pair it all over agian , I am wondering if echo auto will send the track data to the grom and if it will display on the stock radio display like it does with the phone , then maybe I will just ditch GA altogether
its a horrible trash fire anyways , if Amazon made a fire phone again with hands free Alexa baked in I would buy it in hearbeat, anything to get rid of GA
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Goodbye.
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Yeah ok ,see ya, I was thinking about buying a 7 pro but not now
F Google , I will NEVER buy another phone from them until they bring back trusted voice unlock and make their phones useable while driving
android is a nothing but a trash fire now, mainly because GA just sucks now
doesn't work while driving , doesn't work with hands free at all not even while using buds, unacceptable trash OS and very dangerous to use while driving people will die in accidents because of Googles moronic decisions and negligence, again F Google I'm out.
gdroid666 said:
Yeah ok ,see ya,..
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Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
xanda-escuyer said:
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
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Yes everything Google does frustrates me, these people are absolutely obtuse
ok so do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
maybe there is a 3rd party app?
I have a Grom bluetooth unit and they have an app called dashlinq but I have not tried it yet
not sure how it will work with Google assistant
so are there any other 3rd party apps that do essentially the same thing as AA?
not sure if this dashlinq app uses GA or not or if it has it's own voice recognition.
I am surprised that there is not a way to keep using AA though as there is with Google play music ,which you can stil use if you have the right legacy version installed despite its replacement with YT music.
I am still confident there is a way, and also a bit confused
on weather it is going to work on my phone still since I have not updated past Android 11 , guess I will try installing some older .apk's and see if it is only not working anymore on Android 12.
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I'm out.
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You keep saying that.
Can Wear OS run on the X Fold?
I have TAG connected watch and I read that it does not work with Chinese ROM
I have the TicWatch 3 PRO Ultra and although it was a pain in the ... to make it work, Managed it with both the Chinese and Play versions of the Wear OS app installed together. it is fiddly but eventually, it works. Also, I get all the notifications on the watch (even the ones that will not show up on the phone...
dee163 said:
Thanks for the feedback
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Can you direct me a tutorial for this ?
dee163 said:
Can you direct me a tutorial for this ?
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Tutorial unfortunately no as I did not follow any... First tried installing Wear OS from the Play store but it was not finishing the setup. Then I downloaded Wear OS from the Vivo store (the so-called Chinese version. This one does not have any Google Account integration) I gave all possible permissions to both of them (yes, they can be installed at the same time.) Then somehow the Play Store version worked and connected to the watch. I installed also the TicWatch App that is needed (in my case. Guess TAG has one too) and after some more fiddling with notification permissions, it just worked. I get all my notifications and everything seems to sync properly.
I hope that they will really release the phone in India next month, as usually, the Indian releases are Global ROMs with more compatibility with everything. Then we should be able to flash it on our devices...
I have my Galaxy Watch connected.
First loaded the Chinese Wear app, then the Galaxy Wear app.
BUT it won't stay connected. It's OK while the phone is open, but as soon as the phone logs off the Bluetooth disconnects.
I've given the Wear apps every possible permission and power settings but it just won't stay connected.
Just to update from my last post, I've decided to trade in my Galaxy Watch 3 for the new Watch 5. Will be interested to see if that makes any difference. Probably not
I have the same issue - cannot keep my galaxy watch connected (it's the 1st gen)
All is fine and after a while it just disconnects.
The galaxy Buds Live are fine and keep connected.
I'm using the Galaxy wearable app. (as these devices are not Wear OS i think)
Morb81 said:
I have the same issue - cannot keep my galaxy watch connected (it's the 1st gen)
All is fine and after a while it just disconnects.
The galaxy Buds Live are fine and keep connected.
I'm using the Galaxy wearable app. (as these devices are not Wear OS i think)
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My Watch 5 is due later today. I'll be interested to see if that stays connected.
RR-99 said:
My Watch 5 is due later today. I'll be interested to see if that stays connected.
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No success with the Watch 5, as I reported in a separate thread. I'll wait for the Pixel Watch.
Got my Galaxy watch (1st gen i guess) successfully paired and it keeps connected. As long as the 2 devices are bound. (once disconnected i have to reconnect via the wear app - no big deal)
Thing is though - battery usage of the watch is through the roof. I hardly get a full day out of it.
Anyone know what might be causing this?
Morb81 said:
Got my Galaxy watch (1st gen i guess) successfully paired and it keeps connected. As long as the 2 devices are bound. (once disconnected i have to reconnect via the wear app - no big deal)
Thing is though - battery usage of the watch is through the roof. I hardly get a full day out of it.
Anyone know what might be causing this?
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First gen Galaxy Watches did not have a very good battery life to begin with... 1.5 to 2 days at most with good use. Another thing is that the connection between the watch and the phone is not stable for some reason (probably due to the stupid Vivo battery optimizations or some Bluetooth issue)... For instance, my Ticwatch Pro 3 Ultra GPS (names those things) lasted about 3 days with my old Galaxy S21 Ultra but now I struggle to get 2 with the Vivo X Fold...
Which Watch work with X Fold ? It seems no one actually. i have 2/3 Xiaomi, nothing work and it's not Band !!
Samsung Watch 3 works. Samsung Watch 5 does not work.
I now have Huawei GT3 pro and it works perfectly. Does not use Wear. Great battery life, eight days so far !
I agree nt so bad... nothing better than others... But qualitative.
Everything work ?
lesscro said:
Which Watch work with X Fold ? It seems no one actually. i have 2/3 Xiaomi, nothing work and it's not Band !!
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Huawei models works without problems
maxant69 said:
Huawei models works without problems
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Good to know !
OrionBG said:
Tutorial unfortunately no as I did not follow any... First tried installing Wear OS from the Play store but it was not finishing the setup. Then I downloaded Wear OS from the Vivo store (the so-called Chinese version. This one does not have any Google Account integration) I gave all possible permissions to both of them (yes, they can be installed at the same time.) Then somehow the Play Store version worked and connected to the watch. I installed also the TicWatch App that is needed (in my case. Guess TAG has one too) and after some more fiddling with notification permissions, it just worked. I get all my notifications and everything seems to sync properly.
I hope that they will really release the phone in India next month, as usually, the Indian releases are Global ROMs with more compatibility with everything. Then we should be able to flash it on our devices...
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I have a Vivo X Note and also a TicWatch Pro 3 Ultra. Wear OS works well together with the Chinese version. The only and for me the biggest problem is that I cannot pay with a card via Google wallet from watch. When I open the apk and want to add a payment card, it says a connection error with my mobile phone, and on my X Note Wallet does not open through google play services, and I cannot add the card to the watch. I have no problem with paying on my mobile, Wallet works ok there. If I connect the watch to the Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, Wear OS from the Google Play Store works there without any problems, and I also add all the cards to the Wallet in the watch. I read on the forums that the problem is with the new versions of the Google Play services and that it will help to downgrade the older version lower than 21.26.58. The problem is that when installing, the system gives an error and cannot be installed... So at the moment I have a working watch, but no payment, which is frustrating. Have you tried paying with your watch?
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I have a Vivo X Note and also a TicWatch Pro 3 Ultra. Wear OS works well together with the Chinese version. The only and for me the biggest problem is that I cannot pay with a card via Google wallet from watch. When I open the apk and want to add a payment card, it says a connection error with my mobile phone, and on my X Note Wallet does not open through google play services, and I cannot add the card to the watch. I have no problem with paying on my mobile, Wallet works ok there. If I connect the watch to the Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, Wear OS from the Google Play Store works there without any problems, and I also add all the cards to the Wallet in the watch. I read on the forums that the problem is with the new versions of the Google Play services and that it will help to downgrade the older version lower than 21.26.58. The problem is that when installing, the system gives an error and cannot be installed... So at the moment I have a working watch, but no payment, which is frustrating. Have you tried paying with your watch?
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I never got google wallet to work on mine too…
Kucko34 said:
I have a Vivo X Note and also a TicWatch Pro 3 Ultra. Wear OS works well together with the Chinese version. The only and for me the biggest problem is that I cannot pay with a card via Google wallet from watch. When I open the apk and want to add a payment card, it says a connection error with my mobile phone, and on my X Note Wallet does not open through google play services, and I cannot add the card to the watch. I have no problem with paying on my mobile, Wallet works ok there. If I connect the watch to the Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, Wear OS from the Google Play Store works there without any problems, and I also add all the cards to the Wallet in the watch. I read on the forums that the problem is with the new versions of the Google Play services and that it will help to downgrade the older version lower than 21.26.58. The problem is that when installing, the system gives an error and cannot be installed... So at the moment I have a working watch, but no payment, which is frustrating. Have you tried paying with your watch?
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I will never work, as Android Auto, Google backup, Google Timeline and Ok Google activation.
Vivo doesn't use a full Google Play Service framework as they have Jovi application instead of Google one.
Hello
Does anyone manage to make the Remote Connection work? It's missing in the Galaxy Wear settings.
I'm guessing it's related to the Wear OS China version app.