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Hello all,
I am about to take the plug in the Moto X world and have a couple questions. I live in the Great White North (i.e. Canada) so the only available version I can easily get my hands on is the Rogers version. My question is will I be able to use it on Rogers if I flash the Developer edition ROM. Will the developer edition ROM even work on a Rogers Moto X?
Thanks and much appreciated!
Yes, it will work fine as long as you have unlocked the bootloader. You will lose band 7 LTE (2600 Mhz) if you use the full developer edition firmware however you can flash the developer edition firmware and then flash just the modem from the Brazil 4.4 release and it will be restored. This is what I have been running for a while now on two Rogers XT1058s and it is working extremely well. Mine are sim unlocked and running on Koodo.
Thanks for the info! Sorry to ask such a noob question but where can I download the Dev edition firmware? I can't seem to find it. Also can you let me know where I can get the Brazil modem?
Much appreciated!!
Steve-x said:
Yes, it will work fine as long as you have unlocked the bootloader. You will lose band 7 LTE (2600 Mhz) if you use the full developer edition firmware however you can flash the developer edition firmware and then flash just the modem from the Brazil 4.4 release and it will be restored. This is what I have been running for a while now on two Rogers XT1058s and it is working extremely well. Mine are sim unlocked and running on Koodo.
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Just curious, why would you need the dev edition ROM on the Rogers X? It has an unlockable bootloader, is extremely easy to root, and you can remove any extra apps Rogers puts on it? What's the advantage to using the dev edition ROM?
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g8who said:
Thanks for the info! Sorry to ask such a noob question but where can I download the Dev edition firmware? I can't seem to find it. Also can you let me know where I can get the Brazil modem?
Much appreciated!!
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Here's the Dev edition firmware i.e. T-Mobile (Developer Edition GSM) - XT1053:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538394
Brazil modem can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2630107
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
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I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
johnny grep said:
Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
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Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
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I have a brazilian version, also model XT1097 from carrier Vivo and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root it normally. Would like to know the difference between the XT1095 and XT1097 though.
Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
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I have XT1093 (US Cellular). The Pure Edition root method works for all variants with unlockable bootloaders. The key is to follow the directions completely. As it only BOOTS the system image rather than INSTALLS the image, it works fine. Boots the image once, installs SU to your system, then reboots to your system.
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
oxxshadow said:
hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
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Only the 16GB
I thought I was getting a Pure Edition when I bought the unlocked version from Motorola's mexican website, but I got the xt1097... if this is possible that would be great as I believe the pure edition will get updates faster
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
plasticdarlow said:
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
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I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Methodikull said:
I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
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Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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Methodikull said:
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
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not exactly sure how
---------- Post added at 05:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 PM ----------
UPDATE:
I flashed the modem from the multitool and I have Data again.
338lm said:
Official factory image is now available from Motorola! https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Give it a try now!
It was asking you for unlocking cuz Att modem is sim locked.
So did you manage to successfully convert to 1095? I'd like to try, but I'm a bit worried about the modem issues, I'd need a sim unlocked modem i can use with Brazilian operators.
I'm a noob in moto x developing, so I'm already reading what multitool is and how-to's.
Moto X (2nd Gen) XT-1097
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) N-8000
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plasticdarlow said:
Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
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Any luck getting your phone working? You have an XT1097 right?
Hey guys,
Telus XT1097 user here.
Trying to flash back to stock so I can get some lollipop action.
Which factory image should I be installing here ? I don't think our phones are dev editions / pure editions...
Thanks !
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
I have a 1097, but i haven't done anything yet, i don't wanna mess up my brand new phone LOL
i'm reading about the changes to 1095 and mostly the modem issue.
floepie said:
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
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I wonder if that only works on some XT1097 phones, I got a "Permission Denied" error when I tried it on mine.
So I've had the moto G (2014) for a month now and for some reason I can't detect the latest build version or the lollipop update. My sister has a slightly newer build but she didn't get lollipop either.
Thanks in advance peeps!
darthlawl said:
So I've had the moto G (2014) for a month now and for some reason I can't detect the latest build version or the lollipop update. My sister has a slightly newer build but she didn't get lollipop either.
Thanks in advance peeps!
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Which model do you have? I don't think XT1068 has gotten the Lollipop OTA yet. If you're on XT1064, you can side-load the OTA via ADB.
surenzxx said:
Which model do you have? I don't think XT1068 has gotten the Lollipop OTA yet. If you're on XT1064, you can side-load the OTA via ADB.
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I have the XT1063 actually, did it get it yet?
darthlawl said:
I have the XT1063 actually, did it get it yet?
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I just snooped the forums for a quick bit. Sadly Lollipop has not come to the XT1063 yet.
Just in case; I don't recommend you sideload the XT1064 OTA. There have been people complaining in the XT1064 OTA post that functionality was lost since they have a different model.
However, according to this post; Lollipop works. If you decide to use this method, be aware you are flashing a XT1064 OTA on a XT1063 phone. "I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO FLASH STOCK LOLLIPOP ROM OF DIFFERENT MOTO G VARIANT. " -AD9295
I suggest you just wait it out; as painful as it may be.
surenzxx said:
I just snooped the forums for a quick bit. Sadly Lollipop has not come to the XT1063 yet.
Just in case; I don't recommend you sideload the XT1064 OTA. There have been people complaining in the XT1064 OTA post that functionality was lost since they have a different model.
However, according to this post; Lollipop works. If you decide to use this method, be aware you are flashing a XT1064 OTA on a XT1063 phone. "I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT TO FLASH STOCK LOLLIPOP ROM OF DIFFERENT MOTO G VARIANT. " -AD9295
I suggest you just wait it out; as painful as it may be.
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Oh i wasnt planning to flash it anyway, I am too much of a phone noob that i fear i might brick the phone, I was just worried that it might be my device's fault.
I can't get mine to find the update either. XT1064, locked bootloader, completely stock on 21.11.17 in the U.S. Phone just says software is up to date.
OneFore9 said:
I can't get mine to find the update either. XT1064, locked bootloader, completely stock on 21.11.17 in the U.S. Phone just says software is up to date.
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Is it a retail, simlock free, device? Or did you buy it with a provider contract? In the last case you'll have to wait for your provider...
smitharro said:
Is it a retail, simlock free, device? Or did you buy it with a provider contract? In the last case you'll have to wait for your provider...
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Completely unlocked and bought off of Amazon, I'm actually using it outside of the US at the moment.
OneFore9 said:
I can't get mine to find the update either. XT1064, locked bootloader, completely stock on 21.11.17 in the U.S. Phone just says software is up to date.
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Same here man.
smitharro said:
Is it a retail, simlock free, device? Or did you buy it with a provider contract? In the last case you'll have to wait for your provider...
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Purchased unlocked directly from Motorola. Using it on an AT&T MVNO.
darthlawl said:
Completely unlocked and bought off of Amazon, I'm actually using it outside of the US at the moment.
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Looked it up in the Amazon store: they're selling 2 variants: the US version and the international version. The US version should have the update by now. The International version has to wait.
What version do you have?
XT1063 Global GSM Single SIM
XT1064 US/Canada GSM Single SIM
XT1068 Global GSM Dual-SIM
XT1069 GSM+GSM+DTV Dual-SIM, Brazil model supporting DTV
As far as I know only the XT1064 has the official Lollipop update by now!
If you bought the "global" version, you probably have the XT1063...
Mine (I'm from Europe) is the XT1068. So i'll have to wait too...
i found a moto X developer and will this work on the att network and i hope someone can help me out?
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) UMTS 850/900/1900/2100
According to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X#Variants
The Moto X model XT-1053 is the unlocked Developer Edition phone and does work on AT&T. The bands area also listed there.
thank for the help.
So i have to download the moto X developer image for att right?
perlsyntax said:
thank for the help.
So i have to download the moto X developer image for att right?
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Yes that appears to be correct. I do not have a Developer Edition, but there is only one set of images for Verizon, which does have a DE device available. The firmware is the same, to my understanding, but the bootloader is able to be unlocked officially via the Motorola website.
Here are the firmwares you'll want. Ensure that if you pick one, you can only go UP in version, not down. So verify which version is on the phone first. You can only flash that version or a higher version (upgrading) but cannot downgrade to an older version. That will cause problems.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Nemosfate said:
You want one of these UNLESS you're on 4.4.4 then you'll have to get it from Motorola.
I have the xt1053 developers edition and it works just fine on at&t , that's what I'm using
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
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What about the XT1060DEV is this the Verzion phone or the gsm one?
perlsyntax said:
What about the XT1060DEV is this the Verzion phone or the gsm one?
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XT1060 is the model for Verizon.
Google what bands it uses. Then compare to what at&t uses. I've seen in here people using it on tmo Idk about at&t. As far as which version to mix with your phone I'll bow out to someone with more experience with that
Edit: and next time you post make sure you put what MODEL phone you have and the software version. Would've saved some time possibly.
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
Nemosfate said:
Google what bands it uses. Then compare to what at&t uses. I've seen in here people using it on tmo Idk about at&t. As far as which version to mix with your phone I'll bow out to someone with more experience with that
Edit: and next time you post make sure you put what MODEL phone you have and the software version. Would've saved some time possibly.
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
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Sorry about that.I hear the samething it work with t-mobile.
No problem.. And I know there's a thread somewhere with this info in it.. So a search and see if you can find it.. Good luck
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!
Motorola X4 Models :
-XT1900-01 USA Carrier Friendly / Project Fi Model
-XT1900-07 Amazon Alexa Model
I spoke to Motorola to find out model numbers and if the 01 Model is Bootloader Unlockable, and unfortunately it is not.
what? then how come is root only tested and working allegedly on xt1900-1? I'm getting so confused haha. I only know mine is xt1900-6.
The bootloader is unlockable on the XT1900-01
I want to get this phone, but I'm afraid of getting the wrong phone for Verizon and getting stuck with a locked bootloader phone.
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Is there unlocking issue with regular version too ???
Amanpreetsingh said:
Is there unlocking issue with regular version too ???
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no. that's motorola usual unlocking process, completely safe unless YOU do something wrong, of course.
blowingoff said:
no. that's motorola usual unlocking process, completely safe unless YOU do something wrong, of course.
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Do you think this device get good development as off now no twrp and unlocking bootloader is of no use.
Amanpreetsingh said:
Do you think this device get good development as off now no twrp and unlocking bootloader is of no use.
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twrp will be ready soon, then the fun will start
bombaglad said:
twrp will be ready soon, then the fun will start
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Yes hope for the best.
From what we've been able to discern from testing is just the opposite of what the CS agent told you. The Amazon version is the one you can't unlock the bootloader (probably because they are afraid you can disable the lock screen ads that way). Nobody's paid Amazon yet to remove them (apparently you can pay the difference between the "with ads" version and the regular retail price if you want Amazon to remove them), so we don't know if that enables bootloader unlock or not.
bamaredwingsfan said:
I want to get this phone, but I'm afraid of getting the wrong phone for Verizon and getting stuck with a locked bootloader phone.
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I'm pretty certain there is no Verizon version of the X4.
AFAIK, in the US there are three versions:
Amazon Prime Ads
Android One
Unlocked for all major carriers
pizza_pablo said:
I'm pretty certain there is no Verizon version of the X4.
AFAIK, in the US there are three versions:
Amazon Prime Ads
Android One
Unlocked for all major carriers
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I thought the Google project fi would work on Verizon's network
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I thought the Google project fi would work on Verizon's network
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I didn't mean to imply that any version of the X4 would not work on Verizon. My wife has the US Unlocked X4 and we use Verizon.
I mean to say that Verizon does not sell the X4. There is no Verizon branded X4, that I know of.
I have the Amazon version with ads and Alexa but my model# is :XT1900-1
Will I be able to unlock the bootloader?
gatomdl said:
I have the Amazon version with ads and Alexa but my model# is :XT1900-1
Will I be able to unlock the bootloader?
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Follow the instructions on this website (to see if it can be unlocked) - You don't have to actually unlock the device.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Report back here and let us know. I have the XT1900-1 and I unlocked the bootloader.
michael28056 said:
Follow the instructions on this website (to see if it can be unlocked) - You don't have to actually unlock the device.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
Report back here and let us know. I have the XT1900-1 and I unlocked the bootloader.
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I did what you said and sadly it said it is UNLOCKABLE.
gatomdl said:
I did what you said and sadly it said it is UNLOCKABLE.
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Why is that news saddening?
gatomdl said:
I did what you said and sadly it said it is UNLOCKABLE.
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You didn't have to be sad bcoz of that. Will be sad if it's not unlockable. So it's ok with your.
Lol sorry guys I meant to say it is NOT unlockable
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I didn't mean to imply that any version of the X4 would not work on Verizon. My wife has the US Unlocked X4 and we use Verizon.
I mean to say that Verizon does not sell the X4. There is no Verizon branded X4, that I know of.
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So let me get this straight, I could buy the Google Fi version and pop my Moto x pure Sim card in and activate the phone on Verizon's network correct?
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