Recently, we noticed lots of OP3/3T users asking questions related to future software support for their devices. To better keep everyone in the loop, we invited @oliver Z. , our Head of Product to answer some of the most commonly asked questions from the community.
David: Hi Oliver. First, could you please explain why many more updates were released for the OP5 than the OP3/3T in recent times?
Oliver: Sure, we have been gathering plenty of user feedback on the OP5 following the launch in mid-June. We dedicated our efforts in the first 1-2 months after release to better satisfy users’ needs and boost our latest product’s capabilities.
Normally, we release a new Official Release (OTA) update every 1-2 months. If you’d like to taste some of the latest OxygenOS features earlier, and receive updates more frequently, you’re more than welcome to join our Open Beta Program. Currently, we release Open Beta updates for the OP3/3T approximately once every month.
David: Some users asked why some new features, which are available through the Open Beta Program, are not implemented in the stable build releases on the OP3/3T?
Oliver: We’ve always positioned the Beta Program as a public laboratory for new features, feedback, and bug testing. This helps us improve the code of all of our MP builds. We unfortunately, cannot guarantee every feature present in the Open Betas will transition to the Official releases. Often times, even though the feature seems stable enough in the Beta builds, they are not ready or do not meet our quality standards for public release. (And yes, sometimes we test the value of upcoming features through the Open Beta Program for release in new or upcoming devices or later software updates.) In some situations, our limited development and QT resources force us to bring these features to one device first. These features are then introduced on other older devices further down the road. We love how the program has grown, but we do have to admit that we still have room to improve and better optimize the Open Beta Program.
Also, I’d like to take this opportunity to thank our users who have joined either our Closed Beta Program or our Open Beta Program. You have all helped us shape the functionalities and quality of OxygenOS.
David: What are you planning with regards to security updates for the OP3/3T?
Oliver: In keeping with the original schedule, we planned to update OxygenOS on the OP3/3T to version 4.5, with the latest security patch level update, in the next 1-2 months. However, some feedback from the community caught our attention and we decided to tweak it a little bit. We’ll split the update into two parts. First, we’ll update the security patch level to August, which will be released soon. The OxygenOS 4.5 update will be released at the scheduled time.
David: So the OP3/3T will soon catch up with the current version on the OP5, but some features on the OP5 will not be available on the OP3/3T, right?
Oliver: Yes, those missing features are mainly a result of hardware differences, such as the availability of Reading Mode on the OP5, which depends on the RGB sensor. The OP3/3T don’t have that hardware interface, so we are unable to release this feature on these two devices. The same reason applies to the new off-screen gestures and DCI-P3 screen calibration.
David: My last question is very important to OP3/3T users. How long will the OP3/3T continue to receive software support?
Oliver: Android O is going to be the last Android version update we’ll release for OP3/3T. We’ll continue to release security patch updates for the foreseeable future, and offer support for individual application updates. After the OP3/3T have been updated to Android O, we’ll start moving the Open Beta Program from OP3/3T to OP5.
Alright that's all I wanted to ask. Did you find answers to all of your questions? If not, leave your questions in the comments below and we’ll get back to you soon. Thank you all and enjoy the upcoming weekend!
Yours,
David
Friends I am sharing this just FYI that OP3/3T support is going to receive O and few updates after that and then the open beta program will move to OP5 and slowly the support for OP3/3T will end as usual with older models.
With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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android.reddy143 said:
With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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Not sure what you really expected. This has been the companies MO since day one. If you thought it would be different then no one is at fault other then you. Do the needed research and you will be fine. Also just a news flash but the every device is old by the time you get it. Heck unless you compile the OS your selfe then your software is outdated as well.
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Not sure what you really expected. This has been the companies MO since day one. If you thought it would be different then no one is at fault other then you. Do the needed research and you will be fine. Also just a news flash but the every device is old by the time you get it. Heck unless you compile the OS your selfe then your software is outdated as well.
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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When O comes out the device will be about 18 months old. The same cut off point that other flagships offer. Some flagships never even see an update.
What I mean to convey is simple. If you are worried about updates then the only way to be sure is to get a device that you can build the OS for yourself. Most devices (even Flagships) come with outdated kernels and to be up to date you would have to flash every single day and sometimes a few times a day.
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I did not understand what exactly you would like to convey.
You mean that , OP no exception , compare to any other organization? If you agree that ..all other companies respect thire flagship devices at most recent, even though they release different flagships in a year.
And other vendors are not able to provide software update very frequently due to various reasons ex. Hadware compatibility, upcoming model in the same price...etc. Here they did not annouce anything from company for flagships.
OP had releases flagship devices and no support get from company? Strange...[emoji15][emoji24]
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Actually you get a damm lot support. Look how many updates there have been. Samsung still runs 7.0 if you have a Huawei you get 6 updates spreaded around 2 years, those updates contain minor bug fixes nothing special at all. And so on. You paid €400 for a phone and expect everything!
People complain at anything, Every device is supported for 24 months or less.. in most cases 18 or less Be glad it's getting O and not the sh!t show OP2 was.. But I give credit where it's due to OP my OP3 has had way more updates and fixes than my S7 Edge and that costs twice the price.. and still running outdated sh!tty 7.0.. So all isn't bad as long as OP keeps their devices up to date and fast with source code I can see them being the device to go to for Modding as such
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With in a year the OP3 has turned as old device ..?[emoji22] ..opting OP3 is very bad experience.
Stop selling the product in Amazon India..
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We got or will get 3 major android versions on op3, thats actually pretty good for a manufacturer. What did you expect?
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We got or will get 3 major android versions on op3, thats actually pretty good for a manufacturer. What did you expect?
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The device did not get 3 major android versions as that would mean it came out with 5.0 but it came out with 6.0 even though 7.1 had been out when it was released.
Either way. The device should be ok for unofficial updates for atleast another year or 2 before the lack of updated kernel source will make the updates less.
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The device did not get 3 major android versions as that would mean it came out with 5.0 but it came out with 6.0 even though 7.1 had been out when it was released.
Either way. The device should be ok for unofficial updates for atleast another year or 2 before the lack of updated kernel source will make the updates less.
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Read my post. I said we got or will get 3 versions.
Marshmallow, nougat und the new O. So 3 versions. And thats pretty decent.
Besides that its an ex flagship, so we will enjoy good custom rom support.
Even my old Htc One S (jellybean latest official update) recently got nougat ressurrection remix which is working flawlessly.
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Read my post. I said we got or will get 3 versions.
Marshmallow, nougat und the new O. So 3 versions. And thats pretty decent.
Besides that its an ex flagship, so we will enjoy good custom rom support.
Even my old Htc One S (jellybean latest official update) recently got nougat ressurrection remix which is working flawlessly.
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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OP3 Shipped in June 2016, 7.0 didn't release till August 2016..
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I wouldn't call it a flagship but close enough.
It shipped with 6.0 when it should have shipped with 7.0 at least. So I don't count that at all.
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What else to call it? It directly competed with other flagships.
And it coulndt be shipped with 7, when 7 wasnt even available to that point, lol. So you can count 6.
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What else to call it? It directly competed with other flagships.
And it coulndt be shipped with 7, when 7 wasnt even available to that point, lol. So you can count 6.
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I call it a high midrange.
No I never count the OS it comes with.
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I call it a high midrange.
No I never count the OS it comes with.
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Totally agree. The OS the phone comes with out of the box is never counted as an update. :highfive:
If we get Android O, that will be our 2nd major OS update.
I agree with others that we've definitely had better support than Samsung Flagships in the past year.
Support has been great. Look how much updates we got, next to that how many of them where useful? Alot! We got alot better support then Samsung and Huawei at least. If they bring us a proper and stable Android 8.0 I am completely fine with it! Keep in mind this only is a €399/429 phone .
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Just going to leave this here.
http://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-3-officially-discontinued-us-europe-729580/
If this is indeed true how long will OnePlus continue to support and develop for a device they no longer sell?
And I really hope this is not true.
They already confirmed that both phones will be on the same schedule regarding updates.
Yup, here's the article:
http://www.xda-developers.com/exclu...at-it-means-for-the-future-of-your-oneplus-3/
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They already confirmed that both phones will be on the same schedule regarding updates.
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Time will tell on this one.
It will be very interesting to see what path OP take now, they are sending out very mixed messages about the OP3 and this is not good at all.
I don't care if I cannot buy the phone anymore as long as they support it and develop for it as if it's STILL their flagship phone.
It's OnePlus don't expect any miracles, I love the device but so many draw backs within the company, software etc... makes me look past the pricing and should just stay with Pixel no compromises, OTA + Source on time no bs, My first and last OP device
Well considering the two devices are really similar and i don't think the development on s820/s821 is that different, the support will not die. OP knows OP3 is a successful phone and abandoning it within few months will mean they have lost valuable customers. OP 3T is a ****ty move from them, no doubt, and they have lost me as a customer for sure.
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Time will tell on this one.
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Coming from a developer (you make the no-root CM version, right?) does that mean you don't think community development will continue as is has before?
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Coming from a developer (you make the no-root CM version, right?) does that mean you don't think community development will continue as is has before?
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It will continue but it still needs OP to release the source code in a timely fashion, to update the blobs for the hardware to better support the camera, graphics, cpu and my concerns are despite what they say support will dry up it's just a matter of when.
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Well considering the two devices are really similar and i don't think the development on s820/s821 is that different, the support will not die. OP knows OP3 is a successful phone and abandoning it within few months will mean they have lost valuable customers. OP 3T is a ****ty move from them, no doubt, and they have lost me as a customer for sure.
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They are different enough to annoy some very well known dev's such as flar2 who develops elementalx and boeffla who develops kernels also for cm13/14/oos.
If the dev's say they will no longer purchase a oneplus then that's 2 or 3 or even more who will leave for pixel or other devices.
It's the first time for me, a manufacturer is reasoning an upgrade with high demand and getting parts faster to produce more devices... Especially as they were saying that the display was the troublemaker... Not the SoC, not the battery and not the front camera...
Dont think so, the oneplus 3 gets Support the whole Street.
Question is only what the Developers will do, will they leave for the op3t or will they stay. Think they could stay and Release there Kernels for the op3t also. Should be not so much difference or?
Can we cry right now?
Ye only if you don't have op3 yet
Devs here are to good to cry man
i dont see any point to cry. the support of every device ends somewhen, this isnt anything new right?
and as its said that updates for OP3 come along with updates for OP3T, the release of the OP3T basically changed nothing.
you can also say "RIP Phone X" as soon as its released because you know "Phone X 2" will come soon or later and the company will focus more on that new one.
so sorry but the title of this thread "[RIP] OnePlus 3" is nothing more than panicmongering without any base.
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i dont see any point to cry. the support of every device ends somewhen, this isnt anything new right?
and as its said that updates for OP3 come along with updates for OP3T, the release of the OP3T basically changed nothing.
you can also say "RIP Phone X" as soon as its released because you know "Phone X 2" will come soon or later and the company will focus more on that new one.
so sorry but the title of this thread "[RIP] OnePlus 3" is nothing more than panicmongering without any base.
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Not when the device is replaced after 4 months... Plus they haven't been sticking to their software update timeline still waiting for last months Stable OTA (I guess working on official N) and mostly source code is delayed already which is angering devs that want to work on this device meaning even more delays now they working on the 3T. Really ****ty move by 1+..
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Not when the device is replaced after 4 months... Plus they haven't been sticking to their software update timeline still waiting for last months Stable OTA (I guess working on official N) and mostly source code is delayed already which is angering devs that want to work on this device meaning even more delays now they working on the 3T. Really ****ty move by 1+..
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If it's so than i never buying op phone ever again
I can't believe the butthurt going on.
I've had android phones for long enough now, including a few Chinese ones too. Buying any phone other than a Nexus/Pixel is a gamble when it comes to updates.
Buy a phone for how it is NOW, as it is now the OP3 works great. It's getting android N too. If they ended it with just android N I'm classing it as a win! Anything after that is a bonus.
And I can't wait for all the crying when they release the OP4 and people are saying "My OP3T is obsolete after only 5 months" and "Am I getting a refund I've been robbed because you released a new phone without telling me".
I've owned phones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola, Huawei, ZTE and more than I can remember.
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They are different enough to annoy some very well known dev's such as flar2 who develops elementalx and boeffla who develops kernels also for cm13/14/oos.
If the dev's say they will no longer purchase a oneplus then that's 2 or 3 or even more who will leave for pixel or other devices.
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Boeffla has already confirmed he is not buying 3T. No idea about flar2. I personally wanted to wait for a nexus but the Pixel prices just ruined my dream of owning a Nexus phone, lol.
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Boeffla has already confirmed he is not buying 3T. No idea about flar2. I personally wanted to wait for a nexus but the Pixel prices just ruined my dream of owning a Nexus phone, lol.
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I was hoping they would do a scheme like apple early upgrade where you pay for it over 11 months then get a new phone on the 12th but hey no dice, shame really as I would never part with that much money for a phone if I had to buy it out right.
According to David Y on OnePlus Official forums:
First, my answer to the question on the thread title:
Yes. OnePlus 3/3T will get Android O. OOS team are working on it, even new community app (not public yet) just finished the compatibility work for Android O last week.
Here are some update I'd like to share with you guys:
Currently the OOS team are focusing on the OBT program and Android O for OP3/3T, also stable updates for OP5. Next stable update for OP3/3T was planned, will be a minor update updated Android security patch level to August.
I will keep you all in the loop once I got some latest updates.
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https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/will-op3-and-3t-get-android-o.498382/page-8#post-16580894
Ask op2 owners about promises like this. Will see.
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Ask op2 owners about promises like this. Will see.
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Well, unlike the OP2, the OnePlus 3 was much more successful, and had no hardware issues. Plus, due to the similarities in hardware (and consequently software) between the OnePlus 3 and the 3T, they can essentially provide support for 2 devices at the cost and effort of one. If they, for instance, decide to go back on their promise for some reason, they would be offending the owners of 2 devices at the same time. As explained earlier, there would be no logical reason in updating just the 3T and not the 3. Now the only way forward for OnePlus would be to deliver on the standard 18 month support promise. It WOULD however, be a miracle if OnePlus goes one step further and give us the P update too, whenever it comes out. Unlikely, but a man can dream...
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Ask op2 owners about promises like this. Will see.
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the 1st time was a promise , this time is an official timeline, he stated what the development team is working on already , not what they intend to...so,
i get it was bad not to provide the OP2 with the N update, but the circumstances for the 3/T is different.
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Well, unlike the OP2, the OnePlus 3 was much more successful, and had no hardware issues. Plus, due to the similarities in hardware (and consequently software) between the OnePlus 3 and the 3T, they can essentially provide support for 2 devices at the cost and effort of one. If they, for instance, decide to go back on their promise for some reason, they would be offending the owners of 2 devices at the same time. As explained earlier, there would be no logical reason in updating just the 3T and not the 3. Now the only way forward for OnePlus would be to deliver on the standard 18 month support promise. It WOULD however, be a miracle if OnePlus goes one step further and give us the P update too, whenever it comes out. Unlikely, but a man can dream...
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Totally agree drakonizer. :highfive:
Lets hope Android O isn't a mess, (like Lollipop was,) and that the final OS update for our devices is stable with good battery life. For the next year after it can be left untouched with just the security patch updated.
I also don't expect OP to update us to Android P.
If they do a blog like this I would love this! I do rather have Oneplus being honest to us with what they are planning and working on!
It's not like they having so many devices to update, so i don't see any problem they support 3/T further, to P maybe? why jack up the ram to 6 Gb and says it's for "future proofing" if the software alone isn't supported for long. this device is more than capable handling O and so on
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/android-p-is-coming-to-the-oneplus-3-and-3t.879545/
Its official. Android P is coming to Oneplus 3/3T
My god !
Please keep all news/discussion related to OxygenOS 6.0 in this thread only. Any new thread opened regarding ETA/etc will be closed.
Well congo to all Oneplus 3 and 3T users...U all will get Android P update ...Oneplus is saying that They will skip the android 8.1.0 .But will try to Enhance the user Experience.
Awesome news, but I'll keep my doubts unless they actually push it in the betas.
I had been waiting for 8.1 from ages now, and there's no timeline for P, maybe it'll lauch by the end of the year, maybe the end of next year?
The Android P update will be available on the OnePlus 6, OnePlus 5/T and OnePlus 3/3T, in this order.
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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
abhibnl said:
Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...
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Well i am sure they are more serious about their promises and update schedule now but it still didn't make sense that they had all the time to optimize and release 8.1 for OP5/5T but when it came to OP3/3T they want to utilize resources on P instead. Sounds like we will be stuck on 8.0 for atleast next 5-6 months as they have made it clear they won't release any 8.1 for OP3/3T.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.
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Pardon me i just wonder, are you aware that you are in this place?
There are plently of it..
And if you are the person who looking for stock, is it strange that you are lurking in here?
Pardon me agan, my mind just blown reading your post...
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Some of us like the stability and some other factors in OOS and won't switch to custom OS (no matter how much they claim to be bug-free or stable experience but there is always something broken), unless OOS is declared EOL by OnePlus.
I am mostly lurking here for custom kernels as the custom kernels offered here are much more battery friendly and smoother compared to stock one WITHOUT breaking any functionality.
That's the kind of place XDA is, no matter how small custom Android mod/solution you are looking for your device, you will always find something relevant to your taste and usability.
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Well, i prefer getting 9 and not 8.1 over getting 8.1 and not 9.
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Same here! It's exciting but i am just concerned about the wait and possible timeline before that happens. P isn't even released yet, and once it's released the OP3/3T is the last device to receive it from OnePlus. So i am assuming we might not see a P update for 5-6 months. So, i was wondering if they could have worked on 8.1 for 3/3T when they were working with the code for 5/5T.
But at least now we all know we will eventually receive P and we are not abandoned. Kudos to OnePlus to support OP3 with 3 major Android version updated 6>7>8>9.
this is how all manufacturers must support the development of phones
Hope they'll include Treble support as well
All credit to One Plus if they deliver.
A friend of mine bought a Samsung S7 Edge at the same time I bought my OP3. He was smiling initially due to the better screen and camera etc. As time has past, he's only just got Oreo and is suffering from slowing down and awful battery life. My OP3 feels as fast as on day 1 and has only slight battery degradation.
With every day, my smile gets wider. :victory:
This is exactly what I want from a phone when I buy one, long term OS support. Well done Oneplus, my next phone will be also Oneplus.
This is exactly why I made the OP6 purchase. OnePlus has been very good to it's fan base. I know they fell short on a few promises prior to the OP3 however they are most certainly making up for it. I purchased my OP6 in good faith because my OP3 had ***55 UPDATES*** (including betas) and now Android P is coming. I know my 4 year old isn't going to care about the update and isn't going to like daddy taking her phone, wiping it and playing on it for a few days.... But I seriously cannot wait for the OP6 to get Android P and I'm going to be just as excited when it drops for the OP3.
I'm not bragging that I have a OP6, I just want to share my excitement with everyone about Android P on the OP3. I know not everyone has the luxury of buying a new device and I'm happy for everyone who gets to share the Android P experience. I have had a ton of different devices in the past, most with little to no updates including Samsung (no crapple). Hopefully OnePlus will force other manufacturers to follow suit so even those who aren't fans of OnePlus devices can get a better update experience.
I dont know whats wrong with oneplus with the monthly updates and security patches, but that was the most importat thing that i wanted on my new phone and i switched from samsung note 9. Generally im happy with the performance but without the updates i noticed that the battery life and a little lag comes after a while.
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Their is no monthly updates only Bi-Monthly (2 Months) but they're lacking a bit..
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I dont know whats wrong with oneplus with the monthly updates and security patches, but that was the most importat thing that i wanted on my new phone and i switched from samsung note 9. Generally im happy with the performance but without the updates i noticed that the battery life and a little lag comes after a while.
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Beta gets them monthly... Dunno what you're talking about but they're one of the few that provides monthly security updates.
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Beta gets them monthly... Dunno what you're talking about but they're one of the few that provides monthly security updates.
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On the 6t im still on the January security patch.
1+ suckered you and me into purchasing this phone..
Its a good phone let down by software implementations for worldwide audfences not just India!
Hardware wise the only issues are the camera software(The grainy blurry images when zoomed in are unfortunate)
Why no true AOD.
1+ fanboys feel free to take a step back, digest, then provide a non fanboy response........
touche at the ready.........
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On the 6t im still on the January security patch.
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Not sure why
Because your on the beta... Obviously...
They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
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Because your on the beta... Obviously...
They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
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Nope im in the latest stable OS. https://www.oneplus.com/de/support/softwareupgrade/details?code=9 this one
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Because your on the beta... Obviously...
They have the option with the beta but the beta can introduce bugs down the road.
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And like I initially said, if you read, on beta...
I'm not entirely sure why people are bent out of shape over not getting monthly updates. I guess I'm missing something. For me the updates come when they come, and in the meantime I just use the device and never think about what security patch it's on.
But that's me.
Its says open beta 7 on your first screen ! (Please give a cookie to this guy)
Latest stable(9.0.12) is on janury security patch, stop drug man you are already on the latest beta, that's why you have more telemetry, more battery drain, less stability but you are on latest security patch... (omegalul)
PS : Stop to play with your phone If you do not know what you're doing with.
Omagad, poor xda...
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Its says open beta 7 on your first screen ! (Please give a cookie to this guy)
Latest stable(9.0.12) is on janury security patch, stop drug man you are already on the latest beta, that's why you have more telemetry, more battery drain, less stability but you are on latest security patch... (omegalul)
PS : Stop to play with your phone If you do not know what you're doing with.
Omagad, poor xda...
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Well original poster never said he was on stable. So that's why I said, if you want latest and are concerned, beta gives it. If you don't want to do that, stop complaining Imo. OnePlus still does better than majority of companies
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Well original poster never said he was on stable. So that's why I said, if you want latest and are concerned, beta gives it. If you don't want to do that, stop complaining Imo. OnePlus still does better than majority of companies
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Im talking about you (and your screenshot when you say not sure why) and not the original poster.
Beta gives it definitly with more telemetry, more battery drain and less stability, it's paradoxal for a homogeneous ROMs focused on security.
Actually, I bought all the smartphones of the brand and Oneplus are funny about the speed of deployment of security patches.
Essential, Nokia and Google are 15x faster to deploy an update on their terminals, it's not just a fanboy response, we're in the factual there.
So yes clearly Oneplus is at the top of the table and I never say otherwise however it is just correct for the deployment of updates, i'm sorry for Oneplus but how many smartphones to manage ?
Essential, Nokia and Google are more responsive, end of the story.
Did everyone forget that the entire staff took a few weeks off for religious holiday. The pipeline of updates doesn't just start dripping out the other end instantly.
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Im talking about you (and your screenshot when you say not sure why) and not the original poster.
Beta gives it definitly with more telemetry, more battery drain and less stability, it's paradoxal for a homogeneous ROMs focused on security.
Actually, I bought all the smartphones of the brand and Oneplus are funny about the speed of deployment of security patches.
Essential, Nokia and Google are 15x faster to deploy an update on their terminals, it's not just a fanboy response, we're in the factual there.
So yes clearly Oneplus is at the top of the table and I never say otherwise however it is just correct for the deployment of updates, i'm sorry for Oneplus but how many smartphones to manage ?
Essential, Nokia and Google are more responsive, end of the story.
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Never noticed any difference in stability or anything going stable to beta. Maybe you do, but I do not and have only had better results running beta VS stable. I have no extra telemetry VS stable so cut the crap with That please and thank it.
OnePlus providing updates for a lot longer these days than even Google is supplying for there phones. OnePlus 3,still getting pie and its 3 years old coming up. That's far longer than Google gives updates. Essential has one phone to take care so come on,don't go there,that's not fair to compare to, unless you know of more than one phone that essential builds that no one else seems to have purchased.... Google to OnePlus is similar in asking of devices to support especially considering size of Google as a whole.
I think it's very easy to criticize OnePlus when they're supporting MULTIPLE devices as much as they are. Look at companies like Samsung, LG, Google, Motorola, and others. Their update cycles are slower, less frequent, and don't last as long in the long-term. Yes, OnePlus has always been known as an enthusiast brand and was for us who like to tinker with their phones. But they're a company who need to make a profit, and they've really had to restructure as they grow to keep up with demand. They also release phones every 6 months, and I'm sure they've had to spend enormous resources to design the 7, while still supporting devices like the 3. No company is perfect, but they're far superior, in my eyes, at maintaining devices that can compete with other manufacturers, while also having to follow guidelines of other companies like T-Mobile and Google who require them to follow their rules in order to stay in business. As someone who works in Telecom, I see more issues from other companies than OnePlus. While it's important to voice our concerns on forums and towards the company, I think they deserve some credit for not venturing too far from their roots, despite their evolution as a company.
I agree that no company is perfect. But, monthly updates, at least for security patches are very important nowadays, especially since the exploits that are patched on the security fixes become known and thus leave people vulnerable.
For those complaining, you guys DO realize that we're on the better side of things when it comes to updates, right... ? Lmao
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The really sad part is if OnePlus did give monthly updates (or any manufacturer), these same people would be complaining that there are no new features, or nothing was updated just the security. Me, me, me, give, give, give, want, want, want. There was a time when XDA was fun, you learned things and there was always new development and it has changed over the years for various reasons. I have backed off because of all the *****ing and complaining. It's just a phone guys, nothing else, it's a hobby for me and nothing else. Can we stop with all the complaining?
I read through this thread and nearly couldnt help but laugh, People complaining because OP doesnt give them a snappy security patch, which is all in crazy anyhow.. I mean.. you act like some hacker is going to hack into your device and take your stuff within the next 5 mins or so...... I used to be a ONEPLUS hater, Then After LG and Company screwed me over, then my Carrier started selling the OP, I decided why not, lets give
it a try, and I must say I been very satisfied with it so far, everyone complaining, I wonder what you did on your old devices that didnt get patches but maybe a few times a year..
I dont get it. I personally think OP has gone above and beyond what nearly any other OEM would do. and your still not happy....... I hear more complaints about the OP then I do any other OEM,
and OP gives you a hell of alot more then any other OEM would do. you get a Flagship device for half of the price any other OEM flagship device would cost, and you still complain, not to mention you complain because
hardware isnt 100% perfect, The reason they can give you the device for half the cost of all other OEM flagship devices, because they learned to retard on some things, If you want a perfect 100% everything, and all hardware top shape, then get another device with all that and pay $1,200.00 + for it...........
Sorry just adding my 2 cents..........
This is the main reason I kinda stopped using XDA too.... Half the time it feels like Romper Room in here.
Hello,
I am surprised we still don't have such topic to discuss.
PS. I use OnePlus 7T Pro (EU) and my fw is 10.0.9 with security patch from 1st of may. Since it's almost end of July i find it quite disappointing. I've always thought OP was one of the quickest fw update provider.
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Hello,
I am surprised we still don't have such topic to discuss.
PS. I use OnePlus 7T Pro (EU) and my fw is 10.0.9 with security patch from 1st of may. Since it's almost end of July i find it quite disappointing. I've always thought OP was one of the quickest fw update provider.
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Im also surprised that updating is slow on this phone... This is my first oneplus (7t pro mclaren) and overall its a very nice phone.
But the fast updating and new Features thing is something i cant see...
Goku1992 said:
Im also surprised that updating is slow on this phone... This is my first oneplus (7t pro mclaren) and overall its a very nice phone.
But the fast updating and new Features thing is something i cant see...
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My thoughts exactly!
Update to the OxygenOS beta 6....security patch is 1st July....
speedyjay said:
Update to the OxygenOS beta 6....security patch is 1st July....
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Yes i know, but it's still beta - not stable release.
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Yes i know, but it's still beta - not stable release.
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So wait until it's stable. Simple as that.
rafikowy said:
So wait until it's stable. Simple as that.
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I have no choice, but I didn't ask for advice.
Open Beta is meant for specific type of users and it's a topic for totally different discussion.
Decision to provide only beta firmware with up-to-date security patches and skip stable releases is plainly ridiculous. Basically, If you want latest security patch you gotta settle with probably semi-buggy firmware. Well done OP.
It is my third mobile phone from OnePlus and yes the phones before got fast updates every time. Since my 7T Pro McLaren there are very rare updates and the software have some bugs. I think OnePlus is bigger now and they are think now we are famous we have enough buyer.. i don't know... price for my 3T was 479 Euro and now for the 7T Pro over 800 Euro...
Huawei are went the same way... to the begin the phones was cheap..after a few years the phones was very expensive... And quality is not the best from OnePlus now.. my other OnePlus are very stable.. i have case on every phone. on my new OnePlus I have the case from McLaren and i looked after a time behind the phone and it is broken... WITH the case... sorry, but i Think that is not good.
I consider the "beta" releases as stable as I've yet to encounter any bugs introduced by them and the "beta" label is more of a warranty for the manufacturer if things don't work as expected. Also the schedule for the "beta" releases is now monthly. The more devices they have to develop for the worse it will be for releases of any kind.
But we havent Android 11 beta till noe... Few other brands have Android 11 beta for a few phones of their lineup. The only mclaren phone with 11 beta is the newest...
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Oppo, vivo, xiaomi have a few phones with Android 11 beta...
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I consider the "beta" releases as stable as I've yet to encounter any bugs introduced by them and the "beta" label is more of a warranty for the manufacturer if things don't work as expected.
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I don't think so. It's not like stable OTAs are always bugsfree. Bugs happen. Manufacturers don't need such "warranty".
What message would OP send? "Hej, We do not provide regular software updates. However If you want to get your security patch updated you may flash our test fw, but please bear in mind you do it at your own risk".
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But we havent Android 11 beta till noe... Few other brands have Android 11 beta for a few phones of their lineup. The only mclaren phone with 11 beta is the newest...
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I think beta A11 on op 7t pro will follow soon. It's IMHO nothing to worry about
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I think beta A11 on op 7t pro will follow soon. It's IMHO nothing to worry about
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Nothing to worry yes... But why are other brands with much more phones faster? Cant understand this
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I don't think so. It's not like stable OTAs are always bugsfree. Bugs happen. Manufacturers don't need such "warranty".
What message would OP send? "Hej, We do not provide regular software updates. However If you want to get your security patch updated you may flash our test fw, but please bear in mind you do it at your own risk".
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Yes, there are no bug free software, yet, if the betas were labeled "stable" we probably would not be having this conversation.
The "waranty" actually exists as if you install software on a production environment and it leads to catastrophic failure or other major losses the manufacturer may be held liable for any damages, stamping a "beta" label releases them from such responsibilities as its not complete software and the client was aware of it upon installation.
The "stable" build is one month older than the "beta 6" and before even the betas were being released with outdated security patches.
Alpha build: incomplete feature set and buggy
Beta build: complete feature set but may have bugs
Gold/stable build: complete feature set and no bugs (they think).
I've seen many software going from beta to stable without changes because no bugs were found.
I think the problem here is "peace of mind".
That's true, but still betas cannot be considered as replacement for stable builds. Open beta program is obviously good option to have but since it's a warranty for oems it's more or less lottery for an user as well.
As I said before not every user is willing/should be forced to go Beta but every user has right to monthly security updates.
OP was supposed to be one of the best on that matter, sadly it's not. They are in fact not better than huawei - that is known for being very bad at it.*
*Huawei has just released july patch for p30.
Wow im on may 2020?
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That's true, but still betas cannot be considered as replacement for stable builds. Open beta program is obviously good option to have but since it's a warranty for oems it's more or less lottery for an user as well.
As I said before not every user is willing/should be forced to go Beta but every user has right to monthly security updates.
OP was supposed to be one of the best on that matter, sadly it's not. They are in fact not better than huawei - that is known for being very bad at it.*
*Huawei has just released july patch for p30.
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Beta software is not being considered a replacement for stable and are not a lottery, beta builds are tested before delivery but the level and duration of the tests is not the same. Code that is compiled and delivered without testing are nightlies and that is the dangerous software. I opt in for beta builds in all possible apps on the playstore without issues.
I also went for OP because of the updates and for me they deliver but that's just me.
OP8 was delivered to market with some issues although they probably thought it was stable and was released as stable. I only take caution with alpha or lower labels.
What you want is more like Microsoft's "Patch Tuesday" but stable software requires extensive validadion and hardware specific software takes even more time unfortunately.
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Beta software is not being considered a replacement for stable and are not a lottery, beta builds are tested before delivery but the level and duration of the tests is not the same. Code that is compiled and delivered without testing are nightlies and that is the dangerous software. I opt in for beta builds in all possible apps on the playstore without issues.
I also went for OP because of the updates and for me they deliver but that's just me.
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Well, you're not an ordinary user You're the one who obviously like to fiddle with your phone and take some minor risks. That's fine, I like to flash my phone too (more often than I actually need)
Beta is not being considered a replacement, but that's exactly what we have now. Look, I am not denying beta builds are in 90% instances stable enough to be considered daily drivers for majority of users, but there's always tiny risk sth doesn't work as it should. That's not really ok. People shouldn't be expected to try beta everytime they want to get up to date security patch (or one month older).
I think we've gone slightly offtop though
OxygenOS 10.0.10 OTA is available to download
System
• Newly adapted OnePlus Buds, easier to take advantage of wireless connection
• Provided a variety of clock styles for you. You can customize on your own. (Go to Settings>Customization>Clock style)
• Fixed the issue that double tap could not wake up the screen in some settings
• Updated Android security patch to 2020.07
Bluetooth
• It has adapted to Bluetooth hearing aid app connection under the Android 10 Audio Streaming for Hearing Aid (ASHA) Agreement
Network
• Fixed the wrong display of names of inserted SIM cards from different carriers
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