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[Q] Is it an Upgrade?

Hello,
Right now I have Galaxy Note N700, the original Note, and I am considering buying the new Moto G.
Do you consider this as an upgrade over my 3 year old phone specs wise?
When I compare it in GSM Arena, they are almost identical except for the processor which is Exynos 4210 for my old Note and Snapdragon 400 for the Moto G. When I google their differences, it seems that the Exynos chip is still more powerful than the Snapdragon 400 but the former is Dual Core 1.4 GHz Cortex A9 while the latter is Quad Core 1.2 GHz Cortex A7.
So is this a worthy upgrade? Because I do not wana buy expensive phones anymore, I will be needing it for call and texts, FB, browsing and some light gaming only.
Thank you!

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The Moto G is worth every dollar. Is go for it. It runs smooth, has a nice size and great build overall.
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The Asus ZenFone 5 has piqued my interest. More RAM, faster processor, same display, same with MicroSD slot.
Asus Zenfone 5 may not get the Android L update.
What to buy...

I have a get a "cheap phone" and a "expensive Tablet" attitude.

allansy said:
The Asus ZenFone 5 has piqued my interest. More RAM, faster processor, same display, same with MicroSD slot.
Asus Zenfone 5 may not get the Android L update.
What to buy...
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allansy said:
Hello,
Right now I have Galaxy Note N700, the original Note, and I am considering buying the new Moto G.
Do you consider this as an upgrade over my 3 year old phone specs wise?
When I compare it in GSM Arena, they are almost identical except for the processor which is Exynos 4210 for my old Note and Snapdragon 400 for the Moto G. When I google their differences, it seems that the Exynos chip is still more powerful than the Snapdragon 400 but the former is Dual Core 1.4 GHz Cortex A9 while the latter is Quad Core 1.2 GHz Cortex A7.
So is this a worthy upgrade? Because I do not wana buy expensive phones anymore, I will be needing it for call and texts, FB, browsing and some light gaming only.
Thank you!
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If you are happy with your Note, software is ok and everything els is fine, I would stay on Note

It will probably be an experience upgrade, because the Moto software is very light. I have touchwiz on a Note 10.1 (2014) and the Samsung bloat sucks. That said, my advice is get a first-gen G 16GB model while they are still available cheap. My impression is aside from not having expandable storage, it is a better phone (all same specifications except screen size, but the resolution did not improve). If you are willing to hold-off a bit and wait for a new mid-price phone option, the new Nexus should be out within a month or 2.

It is a worthy upgrade from the original G and the old Note. You will get Android L with this device as well. Read my review here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55536919
Just remember this is a budget phone at $180, when the Note came out it was $800. In any case it's still a better phone because of stock Android and useful Motorola additions. The new Nexus will probably be $400. (I don't think it will be $349 this time).
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I have moved from the N7000 to a G and it's great, initially I wanted the bigger screen, but the whole package on the G is faster smoother and generally easier to use, not so much stuff you won't ever use! It also fits in your pocket easily.
At the prices of the G at the moment try it, you will be surprised

I will skip on the original G since I really need the SD Card slot. That is why I am considering Moto G 2014.
I am using SlimKat now on my Note I. It lags but it is acceptable compare to when I flashed a JellyBean stock rom.
What is limiting for me with the G 2014 is the 1GB ram, because right now with my Note, it cannot handle a lot of apps. It will always open a new app and not from where I left it.
e.g.
The Chrome browser is really slow on my Note, not slow because of internet connection but slow because it just lags a lot.
Plays Youtube with stutters.
Facebook after clicking on an external link and returning to FB will start from the top.
I am also looking at Asus Zenfone 5, another value for money device.
I like the specs but there is no dedicated XDA thread for this device. It means no development.
The reason I am still holding on to my GNote and still acceptable for daily use is because there is still few developments happening, I still got Kitkat.

In that case, I would recommend a bigger jump and get a mobile phone with 2GB of ram

At Moto G's price point, do you recommend any other than Asus Zenfone 5?

Exynos or Snapdragon? My thoughts..

I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?

You would actually get better Battery Life with the Exynos variant of the Note 9 than the SnapDragon variant. As Samsung's Exynos SOC is far more energy efficient than Qualcomm's SnapDragon SOC. I can confirm that the SnapDragon SOC runs far hotter than the Exynos too. and that is before the infamous SnapDragon 810 fiasco. The Adreno GPU used in the Snapdragon is slightly better than the Mali GPU used in the Exynos. But in terms of gaming both of them are excellent.

Where's your evidence for that? Many users have been complaining about Exynos battery life and that the Snapdragon is way better. The Exynos S9 wasn't as efficient as Snapdragon due to some hotplugging issue and there's no evidence this was fixed in Note 9. The Exynos Note 9 performs better than S9+ probably due to better thermals and less throttling.

I have an Exynos. It's always cool. It has amazing battery life (1d(6.5-8hSOT)). It h
I have an Exynos.
It's always cool even when charging. It has amazing battery life. (1d 6.5-8hSOT)
And I also think that Exynos has better camera processing. That was a case on Note 8 at least.

dinohodzic7 said:
I have an Exynos.
It's always cool even when charging. It has amazing battery life. (1d 6.5-8hSOT)
And I also think that Exynos has better camera processing. That was a case on Note 8 at least.
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I agree with the camera comment.
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tsoureki said:
I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?
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get the snapdragon variant
for the last two generations the snapdragon variant is better and more advanced
835 and 845 are better than the Exynos counterparts
also there is a huge GPU difference Adreno wipes the floor with mali look at pubg fps with settings for example

FYL21 said:
Where's your evidence for that? Many users have been complaining about Exynos battery life and that the Snapdragon is way better. The Exynos S9 wasn't as efficient as Snapdragon due to some hotplugging issue and there's no evidence this was fixed in Note 9. The Exynos Note 9 performs better than S9+ probably due to better thermals and less throttling.
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I am currently using the Exynos variant of the Note 8 and I can say with 100% certainty that it is much more energy efficient than the Snapdragon variant. I also have friends who have both the Exynos and Snapdragon variants of the Note 9. They confirm with me that the Snapdragon variant is more power hungry than the Exynos variant.

Exynos also gives you better sound quality in headphones if you care for that. Exynos has Cirrus Logic DAC and the Snapdragon version has Qualcomms built in DAC. I sold my LG G7 as I think the Samsung sounds better.

tsoureki said:
I am in Europe and I am ready to buy the phone. My dilemma is between the two variants. I read all threads in forum and i believe that probably i am going with Snapdragon because:
1) better battery life
2) better gpu performance
3) better data speeds
4) phone runs cooler than Exynos
5) kcal color control support
6) fm radio
7) slightly cheaper
My only concern is the lack of roms, kernels vs Exynos vesrion.
Your thoughts?
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The sd845 version - it got better battery life, faster real world CPU performance(the exynos frequency scaling/hotpluging/control is handicapping it hard. Samsung have a good big core and poor knowledge how to use it + it's power hungry), less frame drops in the UI, 25-35% (depending on the workload) faster GPU. The exynos got better DAC and... that's all, it's just bad this year.
Not like the phone is bad, I have exynos note 9, got it on good price via carrier and no SD variant. Still, that doesn't mean that the sd845 variant is not vastly superior as it is. Search the xda forums as it was discussed here and few people got both variants - all of them kept the sd845 and returned the exynos stating they didn't expect the difference to be that big even if they come in it prepared there will be some.
As for the ROMs - superior hardware is always better than "hacking" for better performance. You have "samsung good lock" if you wan't to modify the interface and the functions of the phone. Also look at the dev subforums, not like it's filled up with a lot of ROMs/kernels and most likely never will. For sure it's not worth it to get the inferior variant just to have access to few ROMs/kernels that will never match the raw speed of the sd845 variant.

Isn't it really more about LTE bands? I'd think in Europe, the Exynos would be the obvious choice.

This might offer some insight in battery life (S9+ but almost the same thing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgz0YIEKFTc
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Worth noting that they didn't test CPU/GPU intensive apps apart from the camera.
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There is a good chance that I'll be grabbing a SD Note 9 to run alongside my Exynos S9+. If I do, I'll do a ton of testing.
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Last post, I promise. In my experience, I have a slight preference for Exynos due to root availability. Having said that; I've found that Exynos pumps out better CPU's and Snapdragon has better GPU's. Antutu, 3dMark, and Geekbench usually back this up. Not to mention the fact that My SD Note 3 would run emulators smoother than my EX Note 4.

robroy90 said:
Isn't it really more about LTE bands? I'd think in Europe, the Exynos would be the obvious choice.
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I just found out that both the N960F/FD and N9600 are GSM devices and are compatible with all European Cell Providers.

Current state of Exnyos Vs snapdragon

I think most will have seen the early benchmarks showing the Snapdragon considerably outperforms the Exnyos version of the device in terms of speed and battery life.
My question is, is this still the case? Or have they managed to close the gap between them?
I don't really game very much so my main concerns to be honest are battery life, scrolling smoothness, overall performance more than high FPS in games.
many thanks ?

I think they will not differ much in normal usage and the exynos s10 is still very smooth with me till today specially while using FHD resolution
I also don't game at all frankly.

Mohamad Gahed said:
I think they will not differ much in normal usage and the exynos s10 is still very smooth with me till today specially while using FHD resolution
I also don't game at all frankly.
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That's good to hear. I don't want to upset anyone with the Exnyos variant, it's just frustrating that for basically the same price the USA gets the snap dragon and the rest of us get a solution which seems to be a little worse in every way. I wouldn't mind so much if it had better battery life or better performance in some other area.
Maybe I should stop thinking that way and just remember that it's still a strong performer.

retro83 said:
That's good to hear. I don't want to upset anyone with the Exnyos variant, it's just frustrating that for basically the same price the USA gets the snap dragon and the rest of us get a solution which seems to be a little worse in every way. I wouldn't mind so much if it had better battery life or better performance in some other area.
Maybe I should stop thinking that way and just remember that it's still a strong performer.
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back in the note 4 days, the exnyos version was better in terms of battery life and cpu performance, but was worse in gpu.

No one is locked in to a certain device. You have the option to purchase the Snapdragon Hong Kong variant on Ebay which has a number of advantages over the US Snapdragon. The bootloader can be unlocked, dual SIM's, less bloatware and more telco frequency options. You lose the warranty, which I've never needed, since Samsung's quality issues are almost non existent. The Exynos variants may seem to have similar performance but it doesn't stack up to the Snapdragon SoC.

In my opinion I wouldn't worry too much. I came from a snapdragon 845 S9+ to an Exynos S10. With S9+ I could run every app and game fluently. No lag at all in android "Samsung experience". I ran Antutu benchmark on both phones and Exynos S10 have higher points than S9+ (CPU and GPU)
So, does it really matters that S855 is better than new Exynos when S845 could do anything and new Exynos is better than that?
We are at a point where numbers are getting higher but it really doesn't matter in real life. And Exynos have something that snapdragon doesn't and it is better developer's support (ROMS, mods, root, custom recovery, etc). So, Exynos is a win for me.
PD: S9+ is an excellent phone. I switched to S10 because my father wanted the S9+. Then I got S10 in a good sale wich is an excellent phone too: more ram, 64 vs 128 gb storage, little better CPU/GPU, little better more tunned camera, extra wide camera, more screen body relation, almost the same battery in a smaller phone, single SIM vs double SIM card (depends on your version) and it was cheaper for me because I got it in a good deal.
Enjoy you Exynos S10 and don't worry about the snapdragon version. It is an superb phone.

Exynos FTW!!

exynos speed takes a beating
I know I had the exynos s10+ sold it for the TGY version
tmobile speed has been steller
I missed the exynos roms and support but SD model is getting there too
plus we haave a fully working Gcam bam lol

Question Worth getting the Hong Kong variant?

I've been looking into getting the s21 from HK since it has Snapdragon which from what I've seen in most YouTube videos CPU is pretty much the "same" and gpu is way better on SD than exynos, I don't game a lot but I would just prefer the better version for longevity, which the exynos doesn't seem like (worse gpu than on s865) does the HK version usually get any development? (Root, ROMs)?

The gap is much smaller this year, from what I've seen some of the discrepancies in YouTube tests are more around optimisation (although the Adreno is better than the Mali).
Traditionally I understand it's very difficult, if not impossible to root SDs?
Battery life seems to be very close, Snapdragon 888 vs Exynos 2100: S21 sustained performance and battery life - YouTube has the exynos winning in endurance, but obviously this is under heavy load and the exynos seems to glitch at one point.
I would stick to the local version if you want warranty and support, but it's personal preference!

xAD3r1ty said:
I've been looking into getting the s21 from HK since it has Snapdragon which from what I've seen in most YouTube videos CPU is pretty much the "same" and gpu is way better on SD than exynos, I don't game a lot but I would just prefer the better version for longevity, which the exynos doesn't seem like (worse gpu than on s865) does the HK version usually get any development? (Root, ROMs)?
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I have HK Snapdragon 865 in my Galaxy S20 Ultra, that was one of the best decisions I took last year because the same phone with Exynos 990 was a disaster!
This time there is no better phone than others between Exynos 2100 and Snapdragon 888, it's minimal, so the benefit you may get from HK Snapdragon 888 model will not be that much, especially you've mentioned that you don't play games so why you want to buy HK model?
I may buy S21 Ultra with Exynos2100 this year if my S20 Ultra get broken or bad, here in Sweden, I get 2 years of warranty and the phone supports all 3G/4G/5G bands and net aggregation which gives me more solid performance including eSIM ability, etc..
Also I believe Exynos 2100 gives you slightly better battery life than the Snapdragon 888 as I have seen in many tests in YouTube and reviews.

SamsungA71 8Gb vs 6Gb ram models

Hi, apart from the 2 extra Gb are there any other notable differences between the two models?
The 8Gb models seem to be cheaper here in Australia on eBay, Kogan etc.

I believe the 8GB model is the one sporting Snapdragon 730G SOC, as in Snapdragon 730 'Gaming' , which is a variant of the 730 SOC with a small overclock on the GPU side and it's supposed to be tweaked for more sustained performance (before power throttling).
Don't expect real life noticeable differences. Overall the Snapdragon 700 platform is a mediocre/mid-range one and thus very intensive CPU and/or 3D graphics tasks won't run 100% smooth on neither 730 or 730G.

ban.codrut said:
I believe the 8GB model is the one sporting Snapdragon 730G SOC, as in Snapdragon 730 'Gaming' , which is a variant of the 730 SOC with a small overclock on the GPU side and it's supposed to be tweaked for more sustained performance (before power throttling).
Don't expect real life noticeable differences. Overall the Snapdragon 700 platform is a mediocre/mid-range one and thus very intensive CPU and/or 3D graphics tasks won't run 100% smooth on neither 730 or 730G.
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Thanks for your detailed reply.
So I've been reading that Samsung pay won't work with this phone but will I be able to use Android Pay instead?

Can anyone here help please. I have this model and it has the Turkey firmware. I have downloaded Android 11 UK witch I want to use.. If I install it does it do any with the IMEI cause if it changes I will have to pay import tax as they will think I got it from the UK

Essex_Hal said:
Can anyone here help please. I have this model and it has the Turkey firmware. I have downloaded Android 11 UK witch I want to use.. If I install it does it do any with the IMEI cause if it changes I will have to pay import tax as they will think I got it from the UK
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The firmware cant change the phone's imei number.