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updating from tizen to u.s. version of tizen

I am currently running the British version of tizen but would like to try the u.s. version just to see if there are different apps. Tried to use Kies but it didn't work. Any ideas?
Thanks

rachaelslp said:
I am currently running the British version of tizen but would like to try the u.s. version just to see if there are different apps. Tried to use Kies but it didn't work. Any ideas?
Thanks
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Yes, I saw the announcement today that Tizen was finally available in the USA. I live in the USA and have been running the UK version of Tizen for a while, but I thought let me see if the USA version might be an upgrade. I never have luck with Kies so I was going to use Odin which always works well. I went to Sammobile to download the new firmware and decided to wait after I looked at the version number of the USA (Cellular South). It is 2.2.0 vs the 2.2.1.1 version which every other country has including my current UK version. Is this an earlier version of Tizen without the enhancements that come with most of the other Nations firmware? I am holding off on flashing the USA version and sticking with my UK version.

From what Samsung said on the website, we would have 140 apps or so. Since I didn't have that many on my version of tizen, I thought I would check out the other one ?

rachaelslp said:
From what Samsung said on the website, we would have 140 apps or so. Since I didn't have that many on my version of tizen, I thought I would check out the other one ��
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That have nothing to do with the firmware or tizen version.
It is a thing about the combination of samsung smartphone modell and the gear.
My combination is a s4 gt-i9505+gear 1 running tizen and i see only 49 or 50 total apps in the gear manager app store.
When your phone have root, you can make some changes in the build.prop file to deceive the samsungs gear manager store, as example, a galaxy s5.
Then you have a lot more apps which you can download and install.
Here you can read more details.

psycho-sonic said:
That have nothing to do with the firmware or tizen version.
It is a thing about the combination of samsung smartphone modell and the gear.
My combination is a s4 gt-i9505+gear 1 running tizen and i see only 49 or 50 total apps in the gear manager app store.
When your phone have root, you can make some changes in the build.prop file to deceive the samsungs gear manager store, as example, a galaxy s5.
Then you have a lot more apps which you can download and install.
Here you can read more details.
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Pls can u help me? I need watchstyler apk for gear 1 with tizen... Are u so gentle to download it and post here? Tnx anyway
I would like to try but i dont have a sammy device...

Skin1980 said:
Pls can u help me? I need watchstyler apk for gear 1 with tizen... Are u so gentle to download it and post here? Tnx anyway
I would like to try but i dont have a sammy device...
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You can download it self on http://gearfaces.com.
On the left side you'll see a blue box, klick on it the apk download starts.

rachaelslp said:
I am currently running the British version of tizen but would like to try the u.s. version just to see if there are different apps. Tried to use Kies but it didn't work. Any ideas?
Thanks
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I upgraded my GG from Android to Tizen using the method on the forums here. When I tried to do it via the "official" Samsung instructions Kies told me it wasn't upgradable. I downgraded my GG to Android (again using the fantastic thread on the forums here) and then did the Kies upgrade. Worked without a hitch. Oh and there are more apps in the store after you get to the official version. And the official version of Tizen for the US is NF1. I can't tell any difference between the Odin flashed version and the official US version except I can "see" more apps in the store. Battery is still great. Speed is the same.

psycho-sonic said:
You can download it self on http://gearfaces.com.
On the left side you'll see a blue box, klick on it the apk download starts.
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I know but that version doesn't work for me.

Update N950F to N950U (US version)

Hi All, I have a Note 8 model N950F. Turns out that i cannot earn rewards because of the model version. I won this phone through a raffle and requested an unlocked version. Unfortunately it turned out to be a UAE model. Is there any way that i can get rewards to work? I tried an older version of SPay and it worked for a while until i couldnt use it without going through the update, which removed the rewards again.
If i can get to rewards to work without a reflash that would be great? Else can some one help me with reflash to US version unlocked?

Did Samsung pay works fine on note 8 international version before the update? Because I am about to buy Korean version but I am afraid SP won't work. BUT if it will work if I flash USA SP that's fine with me and everytime will ask me to update then I will flash the latest APK SP to avoid the wrong update. So confirm that to me please!

Welo18 said:
Did Samsung pay works fine on note 8 international version before the update? Because I am about to buy Korean version but I am afraid SP won't work. BUT if it will work if I flash USA SP that's fine with me and everytime will ask me to update then I will flash the latest APK SP to avoid the wrong update. So confirm that to me please!
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Im not sure about the Korean version, but SPay was working for me just that I cant accumulate rewards. I think that is US device thing. SPay app is not setup by location, the device is. South Korea model will support SPay but without rewards again. How to make rewards work, on an international device, for US transactions is my question here.

klev2687 said:
Im not sure about the Korean version, but SPay was working for me just that I cant accumulate rewards. I think that is US device thing. SPay app is not setup by location, the device is. South Korea model will support SPay but without rewards again. How to make rewards work, on an international device, for US transactions is my question here.
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Does Samsung pay and rewards works with older version of SP? Or just Samsung pay is only work?

Welo18 said:
Does Samsung pay and rewards works with older version of SP? Or just Samsung pay is only work?
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SPay works, and rewards was working with an older app, thats how i was using it. but today there was an update that didnt allow me to use SPay till i updated it and i lost rewards feature.
I dont mean to be rude, but the thread is going off topic, please create a new one for your issue

That's good so you can download the latest APK update and it will work

Welo18 said:
That's good so you can download the latest APK update and it will work
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only SPay will work, you wont collect rewards

klev2687 said:
Hi All, I have a Note 8 model N950F. Turns out that i cannot earn rewards because of the model version. I won this phone through a raffle and requested an unlocked version. Unfortunately it turned out to be a UAE model. Is there any way that i can get rewards to work? I tried an older version of SPay and it worked for a while until i couldnt use it without going through the update, which removed the rewards again.
If i can get to rewards to work without a reflash that would be great? Else can some one help me with reflash to US version unlocked?
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Your device, SM-N950F, CAN'T be flashed to a SM-N950U version (US)!
Different processors!

You again...lol. Thanks for the reply.
Anyway to make SPay rewards work?

If I am mistaken please correct me so I'm not spreading false info here, but as I understand there are 2 problems with this: problem 1 is that the Korean version of the app won't let you use non-Korean cards or carriers, and problem 2 is that if you get the USA version of the app installed either A) it still won't work because the device is still region-set to Korea, and/or B) if you rooted to be able to change the settings and Google Play Store etc to USA this trips Knox which I believe renders Samsung pay useless on the device forever.
The only other-region fix for Samsung pay I've seen mentioned is that supposedly if you have a 950F unrooted you can use Odin to flash official 950F Australian firmware, and that version will accept USA credit cards. I do not have an F variant though so I can't personally vouch for that workaround, and my N is very much knox tripped.

So SPay works on my phone. Mine is UAE. It's just that all my promotions are UAE based even though I'm using in US and I receive no reward points. Any fix for that?

klev2687 said:
So SPay works on my phone. Mine is UAE. It's just that all my promotions are UAE based even though I'm using in US and I receive no reward points. Any fix for that?
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Can someone answer this question, he just wants rewards working again, seems the thread is going off topic from the original question.
Sent from my SM-N950F using XDA-Developers Legacy app

I had the same issue and here's what I did
I had the same issue and complaint about the samsung pay.
I bought the dual sim variant N950F/DS(UAE firmware originally), and I knew the samsung pay won't be fully working in the US.
I tried a couple of things and finally working well even rewards.
1) Change firmware to AUS/UK. Otherwise, some debit/credit cards are not working.
The UAE firmware, for example, didn't work with AMEX, but Visa and Master were working.
2) Install Samsung pay and Samsung pay framework manually.
Download the latest APK and install it before executing/installing samsung pay.
Don't install it from the app market place(galaxy store or google play store).
Also, don't forget to turn the auto-update off from them.
3) If the Samsung pay updated, then install the latest version manually again.
I did this and rewards and deals are working well.
Only the 'Home' tab is not working.

Possible to change region on N950F for Samsung Pay?

Hello all,
I recently purchased an unlocked Note 8 (model number SM-N950F). One of the reasons I decided to make the jump for the Note 8 was for Samsung Pay, but as I'm currently discovering, my model is preventing me from being able to use the service. I'm in the US, but the phone was designed for South East European markets and therefore won't allow the Pay app to work in the US.
I read somewhere about a possibility of switching the firmware on the phone to get the service running (effectively switching the region by switching the country's firmware). I, unfortunately, was unable to find any concrete evidence that it would be possible or work in my case. I decided to turn to the powerful minds of XDA to figure this out.
What I'm looking at is possibly installing a different country's firmware (possible issue with the US variant having a Snapdragon processor as opposed to the Exynos processor that my variant has) or I thought maybe rooting the device and changing the model number in the device files to a US variant would work. Would either of these work?
Thanks for the help!

I read somewhere on here that you can Odin flash Australian 950F firmware and that will allow you to use American credit cards etc with Samsung Pay.
Can't vouch for it since i have a rooted 950N

Have the same problem. Using my S3 now for Pay. Would love to have this answered.

After some further research, just as I suspected, rooting the phone trips the Knox efuse, which will also prevent the Samsung Pay application from working, so the only viable option that I know of would be to flash (using odin not TWRP) another country's firmware.

You only need one friend whit us versions to send you the pay framework apk and pay US apk. Sebd me pm. I have US tmo version. My fruend have the same problem and I sent him the apkS and it worked

I just bought an unlocked Note 8 N950F that had the Singapore CSC and I also couldn't use Samsung Pay. I switched to the Australia XSA and Samsung Pay works perfectly in the US. The only thing is that it doesn't have Samsung Rewards since it's a US promotion. AMEX and Whitepages also work. I just went to Sammobile.com and downloaded the latest XSA firmware. Going from one stock ROM to another does not trigger Knox either. Hope that helps.

Samsung Pay Mexico
EddiePR said:
You only need one friend whit us versions to send you the pay framework apk and pay US apk. Sebd me pm. I have US tmo version. My fruend have the same problem and I sent him the apkS and it worked
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Does anyone have the framework apk and MX pay apk for mexico?
Please I flashed the Italian firmware to get oreo.

i flashed a UK Orea ROM, but it still shows UAE is the country. How do i change that part

EddiePR said:
You only need one friend whit us versions to send you the pay framework apk and pay US apk. Sebd me pm. I have US tmo version. My fruend have the same problem and I sent him the apkS and it worked
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How did you install those apks? I got PaymentFramework.apk (com.samsung.android.spayfw - Samsung Pay Framework) and SamsungPayStub.apk (com.samsung.android.spay - Samsung Pay) from another firmware but... "App not installed"

My issue is amex doesn't work on sampay UAE (other Banks do).
I started by flashing entire roms but eventually I have flashed just the csc of various roms from sammobile. Either Sam pay won't work after each flash or it still only works with the banks i could do on the UAE CSC it came with. So it doesn't change anything.

Did anyone find a way? I have the n950n Korean version and it says I need to insert a Korean SIM. I even tried with the original SIM to set it up and it won't authorize without a working SIM. I contacted Samsung UK and they said it wasn't possible. Not sure if they said that because it would be too in depth. Just seeing if there is a way to do all of this as I would love to have Samsung pay actually work!

You maybe able to use Samsung Pay on the N950F if the card, which you wish to register used with Samsung Pay is supported.

N9600 and Samsung pay

Hello guys,
I would like to know if the peurtorican or Brazilian rom have Samsung pay if I install them on 9600 model?

Any help would be appreciated.

Try a Google search lately?
It's awesome,should use it sometime.....
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-pay-launches-in-brazil
https://www.samsung.com/latin_en/news/local/samsung-pay-launches-in-puerto-rico/
https://news.samsung.com/br/samsung...io-exclusivo-para-usuarios-dos-cartoes-ticket
Not trying to sound like an ass (it comes naturally,LOL),but,you've provided few details to give a better answer.
Guessing you want to use it somehwhere other than where the phone was originally from.
Basically,seems you're SOL if you've bought a Note 9 intended for another region & wish to use it in the US.

dr.dido89 said:
Hello guys,
I would like to know if the peurtorican or Brazilian rom have Samsung pay if I install them on 9600 model?
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China fw has it, but breaks the radio.

Changing the CSC of SM-N9600 from Hong Kong to USA for Samsung Pay Usage

Hi all,
I bought my Galaxy Note 9 mainly for Samsung Pay and just realized that there is a regional lock for Samsung Pay. (I don't care about other things like VoLTE or Wifi Calling).
My Note 9 is SM-N9600 and the CSC is TGY (Hong Kong).
I wonder whether there are any ways to change the CSC from Hong Kong to USA so that I can use Samsung Pay in US?
I have read lots of posts in this forum, but got no luck. There are some related threads:
for S8/S8+: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/guide-changing-csc-s8-s8-root-t3799045
for N960FD: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-n960fd-dual-sim-csc-change-oxm-t3841000
same question but no answer: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/changing-csc-to-u1-usas-samsung-pay-t3801639
My understanding is that:
- To change the CSC (especially from SM-N9600 to SM-N960U), we must reflash the firmware.
- SM-N9600 does not have any firmware having USA CSCs.
- We can get the USA CSCs from N960U and put it into the firmware of N9600, and then flash it.
- However, the modified firmware will trigger Knox and hence make Samsung Pay unusable.
Are there any suggestions or tutorials on this?
For example, will applying the firmware of SM-N960U on SM-N9600 work?
Thanks!

denru01 said:
Hi all,
I bought my Galaxy Note 9 mainly for Samsung Pay and just realized that there is a regional lock for Samsung Pay. (I don't care about other things like VoLTE or Wifi Calling).
My Note 9 is SM-N9600 and the CSC is TGY (Hong Kong).
I wonder whether there are any ways to change the CSC from Hong Kong to USA so that I can use Samsung Pay in US?
I have read lots of posts in this forum, but got no luck. There are some related threads:
for S8/S8+: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/guide-changing-csc-s8-s8-root-t3799045
for N960FD: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/note-9-n960fd-dual-sim-csc-change-oxm-t3841000
same question but no answer: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/changing-csc-to-u1-usas-samsung-pay-t3801639
My understanding is that:
- To change the CSC (especially from SM-N9600 to SM-N960U), we must reflash the firmware.
- SM-N9600 does not have any firmware having USA CSCs.
- We can get the USA CSCs from N960U and put it into the firmware of N9600, and then flash it.
- However, the modified firmware will trigger Knox and hence make Samsung Pay unusable.
Are there any suggestions or tutorials on this?
For example, will applying the firmware of SM-N960U on SM-N9600 work?
Thanks!
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You cant cross flash firmware from different device versions...ie N9600 vs N960... not happening.
Those of use who have the exynos version can flash US CSC files via twrp. I would think the same would be possible for the N9600.
I search the note 9 forums for the exynos method and go from there even though im not sure if just changing csc will allow sammy pay to work

force70 said:
You cant cross flash firmware from different device versions...ie N9600 vs N960... not happening.
Those of use who have the exynos version can flash US CSC files via twrp. I would think the same would be possible for the N9600.
I search the note 9 forums for the exynos method and go from there even though im not sure if just changing csc will allow sammy pay to work
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Thanks for your reply. Actually, I don't think cross-flashing will work either.
My SM-N9600 uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon, not Exynos.
Another thought is that I checked the firmware for SM-N9600, and found there is a version for Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico is listed in the US's Samsung Pay Reward program.
I wonder whether I will be able to safely flash it, and use the Samsung Pay.

denru01 said:
Thanks for your reply. Actually, I don't think cross-flashing will work either.
My SM-N9600 uses Qualcomm's Snapdragon, not Exynos.
Another thought is that I checked the firmware for SM-N9600, and found there is a version for Puerto Rico and Puerto Rico is listed in the US's Samsung Pay Reward program.
I wonder whether I will be able to safely flash it, and use the Samsung Pay.
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If you have an N9600 then yes you can flash any N9600 firmware. Whether or not pay works I cant say sorry

Probably you can try flash HK firmware but with US CSC?
But not 100% sure...

Did you try add adding the card? You would miss out on Samsung Rewards but it should work, myself and some other I have read about just added the card to Samsung Pay and it did work, it does for me. I just can't use and claim the rewards points.

hinnn said:
Probably you can try flash HK firmware but with US CSC?
But not 100% sure...
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Do you know how to do that properly?

daLareid said:
Did you try add adding the card? You would miss out on Samsung Rewards but it should work, myself and some other I have read about just added the card to Samsung Pay and it did work, it does for me. I just can't use and claim the rewards points.
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Thanks! I think it may work.
However, what I want is the Samsung Rewards...

I heard a rumor that flashing the Mexico firmware and putting in a Mexican Sim card (off ebay) in before booting up would get Samsung Pay to work.
I want to test it, but I don't have a phone to test with

I have n9600 and have Samsung pay working is US. Just used appbackup and archived Samsung pay framework and Samsung pay from my TMo Note 8 and installed it on the Note9. Have TMo SIM and works fine. Now only if I can figure out a way to get wifi calling working.....

denru01 said:
Thanks! I think it may work.
However, what I want is the Samsung Rewards...
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Then my guess is you're out of luck unless you purchase a new US version phone or wherever you're from.
hechon said:
I have n9600 and have Samsung pay working is US. Just used appbackup and archived Samsung pay framework and Samsung pay from my TMo Note 8 and installed it on the Note9. Have TMo SIM and works fine. Now only if I can figure out a way to get wifi calling working.....
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I believe the only way to do so is rooting your phone and using the following guide:
http://tekhd.com/detonator/#tmodetonator

No rooting required.

hechon said:
No rooting required.
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No way to do it as of today without root unfortunately.

I'm sorry but I was saying I've done it, not that it should be possible. Not only with my note 9 (N9600) but with my previous Note 8 (N9500) as well. So your statement seems to be not really correct.
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No way to do it as of today without root unfortunately.
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hechon said:
I have n9600 and have Samsung pay working is US. Just used appbackup and archived Samsung pay framework and Samsung pay from my TMo Note 8 and installed it on the Note9. Have TMo SIM and works fine. Now only if I can figure out a way to get wifi calling working.....
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Hi hechon,
Thanks for sharing! Could you please provide more details?
- Can I use Samsung Rewards and get the promotions from USA?
- What is appbackup and how can I use it to archive and restore the backuped apps?
Thanks.

denru01 said:
Hi hechon,
Thanks for sharing! Could you please provide more details?
- Can I use Samsung Rewards and get the promotions from USA?
- What is appbackup and how can I use it to archive and restore the backuped apps?
Thanks.
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I was able to install the US Saumsung Pay and log in. However, the home tab says that "You're offline".
Let me explain what I did:
- I downloaded App Backup Lite on my previous US S8 and then backed up Samsung Framework and Samsung Pay.
- I reset my Note 9 without installing Samsung Pay.
- I installed the backup Samsung Framework and Samsung Pay.
- When I installed Samsung Framework, the system said that "I upgraded the installed Samsung Framework".
- When I installed Samsung Pay, the system said that "I installed it".
- I opened Samsung Pay and logged in. The home page shows "You're offline", but the other pages look ok.
- I went into the setting in Samsung Pay and reset the app. However, it did not fix the problem.

hechon said:
I'm sorry but I was saying I've done it, not that it should be possible. Not only with my note 9 (N9600) but with my previous Note 8 (N9500) as well. So your statement seems to be not really correct.
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You meant to say you got volte and wificalling without root on Note 9? how?

hechon said:
I have n9600 and have Samsung pay working is US. Just used appbackup and archived Samsung pay framework and Samsung pay from my TMo Note 8 and installed it on the Note9. Have TMo SIM and works fine. Now only if I can figure out a way to get wifi calling working.....
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Have you tried this?
tekhd detonator/#tmodetonator
I am in the exact same situation but I have to back up mine first

JoshUserName said:
Have you tried this?
tekhd detonator/#tmodetonator
I am in the exact same situation but I have to back up mine first
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I think this requires rooting the phone, which trips Knox and disables Samsung Pay.

I have heard about that you can use the SM-N9600 firmware but replace the CSC file from SM-N960U. Someone claims that he successfully did this on his note 7. However, I noticed that after S8, Samsung updates their bootloader and this way may brick the phone. Any idea?