No more native fm radio in Xperia xz1 Compact.
"The Qualcomm 835 SoC Plattform is supporting FM Radio" Is a great news but the worst news is that there is no radio FM native app, only in streaming.
Sony should give it a chance to use FM radio.
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I tried installing another Xperia FM app, it refuses to install. Perhaps will be possible by modifying the app.
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Maybe Sony may add this on next updates.
hyklamin77 said:
I tried installing another Xperia FM app, it refuses to install. Perhaps will be possible by modifying the app.
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Has anyone tried other options (such as Spirit1 FM radio...yes I know it's not free) from the market?
Also adhere to this conclusion! I have ideas in FM radio to implant it into the system and leave the Radio.apk, but unfortunately first you need to Root to turn themselves to the system files. How will Root, will have to try to do it on my XZ1, I think XZ1 XZ1 Compact and do not differ in this respect. I apologize for the English language.
I have been a fan of Sony compacts since the Z1c. In all the years I've owned one I've never used the radio. Perhaps Sony have run the numbers on how much the app gets used?
Personally I wouldn't spend £500 on a device carrying one of the best soundcards on the market to listen to hissy, lossy fm noise.
Before the end of life for my XZ1c, UK fm analogue radio will be gone, is that a big enough hint for you?
Except when you're sitting at the Bahrain GP, and realise that you can't listen to the race commentary because this stupid phone doesn't do FM... [emoji53]
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Hi All,
I saw a post some time ago that seemed to indicate that hardware was actually in the TyTN II for the FM Radio and they were going to look into how to make this available.
Has there been an update I have missed? Is this possible?
Any pointers would be great, it's the one bit of functionality I wish they had included to make it the perfect device for me
Paul
I'd be very interested in this too ...
Here in the UK o2 are advertising the Tytn II rebadged to the o2 stellar with an FM radio so the hardware must be in there. i'd be very interested as well
Me aswell.
Would it be a case of running the FM app from the O2 phone, if anyone can send it I will try it
Paul
From Softpedia:
"The 3-megapixel camera is pretty impressive and its capture quality is better than in many other smartphones, which scores another advantage for O2's device. The phone brings entertainment through an MP3 player and FM radio, making it a handset capable of providing both fun and business solutions. Still, this is a new feature for the device, hopefully not another mistype from O2, as they have done a rather sloppy job with this announcement."
The link: http://news.softpedia.com/news/HTC-Kaiser-Coming-at-O2-as-Xda-Stellar-71434.shtml
So... what is the truth?!?!?
Sorry to point this out, but usually it is hardware!
and if you look at the ad from O2 it doesn't say "FM radio". it only says MP3 player and radio.
there are already radio streaming apps out there, like resco radio
I think it was msmobile blog making the error...
This happens with every new WM device...
A lot of websites and even the Network marketing people dont know what they are talking about. Imagine being the product manager and not making sure that the copywriters don't just create imaginary stuff for your devices...
Then again the O2 Marketing Manager allowed ads to go out calling it Stella for about a month...
It's obviously a hardware feature as the OP says, it's just a question of whether the hardware might already be in there, to be enabled at some future point (perhaps by the O2 firmware). There are precedents for this, such as the GPS that exists (but is not supported) in the S730.
I'd be surprised if the hardware in the Kaiser was significantly different to that in the virtually identical-specced Touch Cruise, which is essentially just a Kaiser without the keyboard - except of course the Cruise has FM radio...
It could well be it's more expensive to leave out than it is to put in, but for marketing reasons it's only enabled in selected models (based on the same platform). This is all conjecture though...
if i remember correctly, the post ended because they discovered that the GPS radio worked and broadcasted differently than the FM radio so that it was not possible.
Edit: Here's the exact post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338238
The hardware most certainly is NOT in the Kaiser or TytnII. But if you're interested in true broadcast television or fm radio, you can check this out: http://www.eopstech.com/eops/pro3.jsp
GSLEON3 said:
The hardware most certainly is NOT in the Kaiser or TytnII. But if you're interested in true broadcast television or fm radio, you can check this out: http://www.eopstech.com/eops/pro3.jsp
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how can you be so certai?
The O2 website now says (http://shop.o2.co.uk/ComingSoon):
The new O2 Xda Stellar is a touch screen Xda with a slim, stylish design. As well as the on-board GPS, Windows Mobile 6 (supporting Microsoft Direct Push Email) and Wi-Fi, it is Quad Band, 3G and has a 3 mega-pixel camera and MP3 player
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No mention of any radio now ...
Hi can someone extract the rom from the HTC Cruise. I would like to look at the fm radio app...
jaygriggs said:
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If you follow the link I posted at the bottom of the first page of this post, one of the posters there said that there's no fm radio components mentioned on the schematics of the chipset in the phone.
has it happened yet?
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has it happened yet?
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Have you read the post above you? There is no radio hardware.
now that theres fm radio, on the nexus on the new cm 6.1 and other roms would it be possible to have a fm transmitter? like the one where it plays your music thru the fm in the car or something. if this is possible that would be amazing.
No, it's not supported in the hardware.
wow that really sucks , anyways thanks for the reply
Wrong, the hardware is there.
There is however, no drivers for the chipset on any device to reverse engineer or port or even look at.
Ask cyanogen, maybe he will fix your nexus one.
Code is in the framework. Could work if we added it to FM app
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Code is in the framework. Could work if we added it to FM app
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Where did that code come from? Code Aurora?
charnsingh_online said:
Code is in the framework. Could work if we added it to FM app
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salivates.
So is everyone saying here that there is a chance that maybe in the future it will be unlocked
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Wrong, the hardware is there.
There is however, no drivers for the chipset on any device to reverse engineer or port or even look at.
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I really doubt the transmitter is hooked up, regardless of software it wont work. If it was a working transmitter the Desire would have probably had it with the FM application/kernel.
But we could sit here and speculate all we want, the fact is nobody knows for sure.
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I really doubt the transmitter is hooked up, regardless of software it wont work. If it was a working transmitter the Desire would have probably had it with the FM application/kernel.
But we could sit here and speculate all we want, the fact is nobody knows for sure.
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There's nothing that needs to be hooked up. The FM portion of the wifi/bluetooth/fm all use the same antenna for reception/broadcasting.
FM transmission on devices require alot more legal entanglements that companies don't want to deal with.
The chip onboard is an all in one, it's there, it just needs software.
i doubt the shortness of the waves will cause any legal disputes if so we would have issues with all these kids that USE to walk around with walkie talkies all the time
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i doubt the shortness of the waves will cause any legal disputes if so we would have issues with all these kids that USE to walk around with walkie talkies all the time
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yeah, so you do realize that there's a lot of different frequencies for devices, right? Your "walkie talkies" were likely 38mhz or maybe 43mhz. Not a commercial frequency band.
solidmac said:
i doubt the shortness of the waves will cause any legal disputes if so we would have issues with all these kids that USE to walk around with walkie talkies all the time
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Actually, the FM transmitters that popped up for the early iPods and several other MP3 players were originally illegal to use in many countries since they operated on frequencies that were considered protected or where you needed to register as a broadcaster to be allowed to transmit. This has however now been relaxed in several countries as long as the transmission strength is kept low enough to not interfere noticable with other people's devices.
Hi everybody,
I like the FM and TV apps. They replace two rather clunky devices. I also like ROMs like PAC, AOKP and CM. None of which have the former.
Is there a (preferably free) way to get TV and FM on AOSP roms? Or is there something like closed source drivers preventing this?
I tried Spirit FM, it didn't work.
Thanks,
sauprankul
I don't think the FM radio app works on aosp. I do know that tunein radio works. Its an FM radio but runs through the network connection. Its not exactly what you were looking for but it may help.
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I don't think the FM radio app works on aosp. I do know that tunein radio works. Its an FM radio but runs through the network connection. Its not exactly what you were looking for but it may help.
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I know that the app doesn't work, but I was hoping for a mod or app that would replace it.
Tunein isn't as clear and Sprint doesn't have very good coverage around here (yet, they say).
Oh well.
Might work for FM radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13379669
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for the tv i think peel should work
Outside of Asia and a prototype or 2, there are no "over the air" TV chips in Android devices, AFAICT.
A few people have reported my FM app works OK on HTC One. And at least one said it didn't work. AFAIK, my app Spirit is the only non stock app that will work (for "real" over the air FM), and I've heard no indication that will change anytime soon.
The Sprint HTC One has a stock FM app, right ?
I will likely buy and officially support the HTC One within a few months.
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Outside of Asia and a prototype or 2, there are no "over the air" TV chips in Android devices, AFAICT.
A few people have reported my FM app works OK on HTC One. And at least one said it didn't work. AFAIK, my app Spirit is the only non stock app that will work (for "real" over the air FM), and I've heard no indication that will change anytime soon.
The Sprint HTC One has a stock FM app, right ?
I will likely buy and officially support the HTC One within a few months.
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I don't think the OP was referring to an "over-the-air" TV app, but rather the TV app on stock HTC ONEs that basically turn your phone into a remote.
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I don't think the OP was referring to an "over-the-air" TV app, but rather the TV app on stock HTC ONEs that basically turn your phone into a remote.
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OP can clarify but when he says "...way to get TV..." it certainly sounds like he's asking for an OTA TV type app.
For TV etc. remote control, there ARE several apps on Play, and I think at least one of them works with the HTC One specific IR blaster hardware.
Oops, my bad.
I meant the app named TV, which allows me to use the IR blaster. I looked it up on the play store, only got apps that used network, links?
And I thought I had posted this a while back, but I get no audio from Spirit FM. (I'll try it again?) EDIT: Yeah, no audio... Am I supposed to let it scan networks or wait for it to tune or something?
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OP can clarify but when he says "...way to get TV..." it certainly sounds like he's asking for an OTA TV type app.
For TV etc. remote control, there ARE several apps on Play, and I think at least one of them works with the HTC One specific IR blaster hardware.
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I don't think the hardware is the problem, but rather the lack of IR support in AOSP.
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Oops, my bad.
I meant the app named TV, which allows me to use the IR blaster. I looked it up on the play store, only got apps that used network, links?
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Here's one of the IR apps on Play (more if you follow "Users who viewed this also viewed") : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microcontrollerbg.irdroid
App description says "Uses and needs external Irdroid module" and indicates it's a port of LIRC.
IR ports and their drivers are relatively simple, compared to audio, graphics, FM, etc.
So I'll bet that somebody will find/build an HTC One AOSP IR solution in the next 3-6 months. I've briefly considered it myself, but there are enough apps out there already IMO for when drivers become available.
BTW, I got the app link from this good thread about things missing from the coming Nexus Experience version: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tc-camera-features-and-no-beats-audio-switch/
My impression right now is that HTC One sales are doing better than many of us expected. The Nexus Experience thing has convinced me that I'll be getting one soon. And Samsung GS4 sales seem lower than expected. I think HTC One is "stealing" some GS4 sales.
My point is that I think HTC One XDA/custom ROM and apps development will do well, and solutions for IR and some other Sense related features will be found.
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And I thought I had posted this a while back, but I get no audio from Spirit FM. (I'll try it again?) EDIT: Yeah, no audio... Am I supposed to let it scan networks or wait for it to tune or something?
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AOSP based ROM ?
I've had a few HTC One success reports, but I think on stock ROM where the "HTC" Audio-> Method setting talks to the HTC proprietary audio stuff.
Send me a debug log with Menu-> Test-> Email-> Logs . After 20 seconds or so press Send.
There may be some simple ALSA controls to set to enable FM audio. But often I have to get a phone in my hands and spend some time on it before learning the FM audio enable secrets.
If this phone were using the Qualcomm WCN3660 FM/combo chips, like the Qualcomm reference designs used in One X LTE, One S and similar devices, then the "HTC OneS/X LTE ALSA" Audio-> Method would work, as well as "Digital OneXL/S".
AFAIR, this phone DOES use the reference WDC9310 audio chip, but the Qualcomm FM chip has special audio connections that I'm pretty sure the Broadcom BCM4335 FM/combo chip does not.
My guess is that HTC added some special FM audio controls to the WDC9310 driver. EDIT: OK someone sent me a debug log from a rooted One, I'll look to find new FM controls.
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Here's one of the IR apps on Play (more if you follow "Users who viewed this also viewed") : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microcontrollerbg.irdroid
App description says "Uses and needs external Irdroid module" and indicates it's a port of LIRC.
IR ports and their drivers are relatively simple, compared to audio, graphics, FM, etc.
So I'll bet that somebody will find/build an HTC One AOSP IR solution in the next 3-6 months. I've briefly considered it myself, but there are enough apps out there already IMO for when drivers become available.
BTW, I got the app link from this good thread about things missing from the coming Nexus Experience version: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tc-camera-features-and-no-beats-audio-switch/
My impression right now is that HTC One sales are doing better than many of us expected. The Nexus Experience thing has convinced me that I'll be getting one soon. And Samsung GS4 sales seem lower than expected. I think HTC One is "stealing" some GS4 sales.
My point is that I think HTC One XDA/custom ROM and apps development will do well, and solutions for IR and some other Sense related features will be found.
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I'm sure the ONE isn't doing much to hinder sales of the S4. If you take into consideration that the S3 and S4 release dates are roughly a year apart not many people are available to upgrade let alone fork out the full price for the phone. People tend to pick brands and stick with them.
Also, according to Wikipedia, "Upon its release (S4), it became the fastest selling smartphone in Samsung's history, with 10 million devices sold as of May 22, 2013, according to Samsung." AND "the One sold around 5 million units through its first two months of worldwide availability.[" So I don't know where this stigma comes that HTC is dominating Samsung right now. I'm assuming it's just pure fanboy-ism.
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So I don't know where this stigma comes that HTC is dominating Samsung right now. I'm assuming it's just pure fanboy-ism.
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There isn't any, AFAIK. Samsung is still top dog. Just with a LITTLE less domination than was expected, and HTC doing a bit better than many expected for them. HTC has lost a LOT of market share in 2 years, now I think they've climbed back (just a bit !) from the precipice.
My very non-scientific survey of the front page of XDA forums seems to show about twice as much activity for all S4 variants, versus all One variants. One activity should have an edge because it came out first though...
Against the S4's expected dominance, I think a 2:1 activity ratio means the One is clearly among the most popular new devices, despite enthusiast complaints about non-removable battery and no SDCard.
For FM:
- AFAICT, the people who reported success with Spirit on HTC One were running stock ROMs.
On stock derived ROMs, deny SU to Spirit or better yet, set Debug-> FM API to "OEM Proprietary" and restart Spirit. If the stock FM app can work, then Spirit should be able to work this way.
Debug-> Audio Focus should be enabled, but this is done automatically on recent Spirit releases.
- I've taken a quick look at the ALSA audio driver differences. Digital FM audio is I think possible, using some HTC One specific ALSA controls intended for Bluetooth. I will need a phone and time to figure this out. I'm not sure there is even an analog FM route available; it may be digital only.
If there's a service manual and/or schematic, I'd be interested to see.
- Even without audio, I'm not sure Spirit can control the FM/combo chip on AOSP ROMs or using low level stuff. The code that works an many old and new Broadcom chips directly via "UART" does not work on this BCM4335.
Maybe it could work if Bluetooth were turned on and/or Spirit has Debug-> HCI Access set to "BT Socket".
EDIT: Actually someone just emailed me running CM10.1 and the FM chip control works through UART.
Overall, I just have to get this phone to make it work well. Usually I get new phones on Ebay from Hong Kong or US vendors. But in this case I think I'd be better to buy one locally for $650 plus taxes. I'd buy an HTC dev phone, but they only sell to US and I think the same will be true, at least initially, for the coming Google Nexus Experience phone. And... I've been reading the One has S-Off and even carrier SIM unlock now (?)...
I got a One on the weekend and have added "early" support for Spirit FM on HTC One.
HTC One first AOSP/Google support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7#post42922397
Now where is the guy or gal who will do the IR... and Camera...
Does the Z1 have support for Sim Access Profile (rSAP/SAP)?
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Does the Z1 have support for Sim Access Profile (rSAP/SAP)?
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Ill answer my own question here. No it doesnt. No Android phones from Sony does, which is ridiculous. Its a software implementation though so if you install an AOSP-based ROM it should work just fine.
A quick google search showed me Sony Xperia phones are supported with some third party rSAP apps.
http://bit.ly/1axcCjL
I was looking around for this a while ago. If I'm not mistaken it's proprietary by Nokia, hence many manufacturers haven't implemented it. They have to pay a licence for it. Since I was reading into it a guy have developed some Android rSAP app available in Play Store. It needs root because it adds and/or manipulates system files. It should work fine on Sony. I think there's a "try before buy" too, so you can test it for a bit before deciding.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4402
http://www.android-rsap.com
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I had bought LG V40 from amazon spain,
The phone arrived from seller Italian
The problems is dont found app radio FM and I thought this V40 has radio FM same LG G7
help me pels
There's no FM App on your LG V40 because this phone has no FM radio hardware inside.
Abdul Qayyum 433 said:
Hey mate there are various apps that can turn on the radio on V40. These include TuneIn Radio, iHeart Radio or NextRadio etc. I have heard that LG v40 won't have radio hardware. After listening this..I was really shocked. But you should try these apps on your phone by connecting the wire headset. I think it will work.
Best of luck mate:good::good::good:
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North American T-Mobile branded V40 does have FM. I have tested with NextRadio. 100% confirmed working.
Are you kidding? NextRadio is a streaming client. It's using internet to stream different radio stations. Has absolutely nothing with FM radio.
For God sake you're posting on xda developer[emoji34]
Abdul Qayyum 433 said:
Hey mate there are various apps that can turn on the radio on V40. These include TuneIn Radio, iHeart Radio or NextRadio etc. I have heard that LG v40 won't have radio hardware. After listening this..I was really shocked. But you should try these apps on your phone by connecting the wire headset. I think it will work.
Best of luck mate:good::good::good:
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These are streaming radio services. They use internet to stream radio stations except NextRadio which requires physical FM hardware. They will not turn on radio hardware that isn't there.
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Are you kidding? NextRadio is a streaming client. It's using internet to stream different radio stations. Has absolutely nothing with FM radio.
For God sake you're posting on xda developer[emoji34]
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This is part of the reason why I don't post much on XDA for a number of years. You get these cocky know it all individuals that haven't researched or tested **** and insult other members without any proof to back up their claim.
I was a developer once right in here buddy look me up. Research your your own stuff on your own **** before you start speaking in condecending language.
Look below... or you could have just done a quick Google search. But I guess it's just easier to assume you know it all.
Is that proof enough for you?
Before you give any other smart ass replies, yes it works without both DATA and Wi-Fi. And yes the App is both a streaming app and FM tuner based app. But there are others.
Read carefully his post:
I had bought LG V40 from amazon spain,
The phone arrived from seller Italian
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He's talking about European G7. This variant has no FM radio hardware.
You can use any radio app as streaming client only.
What US variant has or has not doesn't matter for his problem.
Your proof, your phone.
His phone, his problem.
Works just fine with v7.0.16 of the LG FM Radio app off apkmirror. Verizon v40..
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Read carefully his post:
He's talking about European G7. This variant has no FM radio hardware.
You can use any radio app as streaming client only.
What US variant has or has not doesn't matter for his problem.
Your proof, your phone.
His phone, his problem.
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What is my problem? I posted facts trying to help the OP. Now it's up to he/she use that and find out if that's the case on his specific variant.
Thanks for the kind correction. Of course I meant V40.
Have a nice week.
My european V40 (LMV405EBW) doesn't have the FM tuner enabled unfortunately. I tried the app taken from the V30 and the latest LG FM Radio apk from apkmirror but they can't start the tuner.
The South African version (LM-V405EB) doesn't seem to have the FM tuner enabled either. I installed NextRadio, and it showed my device is "FM enabled", but nothing happens when I try to search for stations. The same happens with the LG FM radio apk.
Doubt Audio
DLS123 said:
My european V40 (LMV405EBW) doesn't have the FM tuner enabled unfortunately. I tried the app taken from the V30 and the latest LG FM Radio apk from apkmirror but they can't start the tuner.
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I have a Big Doubt with the LG V40, I just bought it Secondhand. The doubt is that if I start the PowerAmp it puts me down OPENSL ES OUTPUT 16-BIT 48KHZ. It is not supposed to be a 32bit DAC ??? Is that ok ?? Do you have to see the headset that you connect, I connect a KZ ZS10?
I would be glad your answer, because if I took this LG it is because I like to listen to Music with good Sound ..
I have the Spanish Model LM-V405EBW with Android Oreo 8.1 and January 2019 Patch.