Guys sign the below link for petition for santoni kernel sources must be released https://www.change.org/p/xiaomi-dev...m_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition
Plz sign the petition if you guys want that the kernel sources must be released.
If kernel sources aren't released yet, how is it possible that there are some custom ROMs already out there?
BubuXP said:
If kernel sources aren't released yet, how is it possible that there are some custom ROMs already out there?
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Dude without kernel sources the devs cannot build or modify custom kernels. Else it has nothing to do with roms as the rom sources are ported from lineage or aosp sources and modified accordingly. without kernel sources there isn't much room for kernel optimisation and modification for better performance or battery as the devs have to use the stock kernel of the device.
So those custom ROMs are using the stock kernel, copied from the original MIUI ROMs?
BubuXP said:
So those custom ROMs are using the stock kernel, copied from the original MIUI ROMs?
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Yeah with few optimizations and changes.
Xiaomi / every android manufacturer has to release the kernel sources anyway, right? Is there an ETA, or how long does it usually take for a xiaomi device for the sources being released? I am considering buying this phone.
2nd question: rooting or unlocking bootloader goes with the manufacturer's page right? I checked it out and it was in chinese, me as an english user, will i manage to get the phone unlocked?
Petition is signed anyway. I also contacted the global service through mail asking about the REDMI4X32_GLB_BLK kernel source release. Will keep you updated if I get a response
Edit: I just ordered a moto g5 but will keep u updated if I should get any info from xiaomi support.
Edit2: Reply from the Xiaomi team:
Greetings from Xiaomi!
Thank you for writing us. I will be glad to assist you.
I understand that you wish to know regarding the release of Kernel source. I would like to inform you that as of now we do not have any such update and provisions regarding the launch of Kernel source for the Redmi 4X, so we would not be able to guide you regarding the same and the reason behind its non-release. You may refer our Official Website http://www.mi.com/en/ and Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/xiaomiglobal for more information.
Should you have any further queries, feel free to write back to us. We'll be glad to assist you further.
Thank you for being a valued customer. Have a great day ahead!
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SeviStein said:
Xiaomi / every android manufacturer has to release the kernel sources anyway, right? Is there an ETA, or how long does it usually take for a xiaomi device for the sources being released? I am considering buying this phone.
2nd question: rooting or unlocking bootloader goes with the manufacturer's page right? I checked it out and it was in chinese, me as an english user, will i manage to get the phone unlocked?
Petition is signed anyway. I also contacted the global service through mail asking about the REDMI4X32_GLB_BLK kernel source release. Will keep you updated if I get a response
Edit: I just ordered a moto g5 but will keep u updated if I should get any info from xiaomi support.
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Still no response?
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Hi everyone.
As we all know how popular the Xiaomi MI3 is, I was just wondering if there can be any possible Custom AOSP based rom for this device.
As we all know the Nexus 5 and Xiaomi MI3 have almost similar hardware would it be possible to port any nexus 5 roms to the MI3?
Agreed that Xiaomi doesn't release sources but is it possible to port something from nexus 5 due to similar hardware?
Simple answer is no. Without the kernel source code you can't get anything booting. Because they don't release the source code is the reason they have no forum and never will
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zelendel said:
Simple answer is no. Without the kernel source code you can't get anything booting. Because they don't release the source code is the reason they have no forum and never will
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Ohh I see. No point in having a forum if no source code is available.
By the way MIUI based custom roms can be developed right? Since they can use the stock kernel.
smeet.somaiya said:
Ohh I see. No point in having a forum if no source code is available.
By the way MIUI based custom roms can be developed right? Since they can use the stock kernel.
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But Many ROMs have been ported for Mediatek to medaitek based devices without having kernel sources
thejoker said:
But Many ROMs have been ported for Mediatek to medaitek based devices without having kernel sources
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That they have but without any kernel source that is the best you will get. Is a port that may have bugs that can't be fixed (that the Og ROM doesn't have) due to no source. Also no kernel options like gov or over clocking ect.
zelendel said:
That they have but without any kernel source that is the best you will get. Is a port that may have bugs that can't be fixed (that the Og ROM doesn't have) due to no source. Also no kernel options like gov or over clocking ect.
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thejoker said:
But Many ROMs have been ported for Mediatek to medaitek based devices without having kernel sources
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Varun chitre has already made an alpha build of cm11 for this device without the kernel sources.
And yeah Xiaomi will be releasing kernel sources later this year
smeet.somaiya said:
Varun chitre has already made an alpha build of cm11 for this device without the kernel sources.
And yeah Xiaomi will be releasing kernel sources later this year
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It maybe to late for this forum by then.
zelendel said:
It maybe to late for this forum by then.
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Too late for what? Sorry I didn't get you.
smeet.somaiya said:
Too late for what? Sorry I didn't get you.
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Meaning this forum is just a test. If the company doesn't change its gpl stance then it won't be staying
Anybody knows of good custom ROMS for a Xiaomi Mi Note Pro? Lollipop version?
We need the kernel sources first that Xiaomi still has not released.
But as soon as Xiaomi does the development will start... Just hope they the sources won't be released too late...
but there is a certainty that released the kernel sources?
adil7884 said:
but there is a certainty that released the kernel sources?
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Please search the forum before asking, there isnt exactly many threads to go through and this has been asked multiple times and has been answered multiple times.. Xiaomi will release Kernel Source once the phone is launched globally, at the moment it's just China.
Oops...ok I did not realize
adil7884 said:
Oops...ok I did not realize
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Hopefully we don't need to wait too long!
Source released. Go Go Go!
What would it take for a developer to be able to release a Lineage/CM type ROM for this phone? Do you guys think it is a possibility in the near future or will this never happen?
SantinoInc said:
What would it take for a developer to be able to release a Lineage/CM type ROM for this phone? Do you guys think it is a possibility in the near future or will this never happen?
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Source code for starters is probably helpful, and that might take a while with xiaomi....
SantinoInc said:
What would it take for a developer to be able to release a Lineage/CM type ROM for this phone? Do you guys think it is a possibility in the near future or will this never happen?
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I've experienced that with the Mi5, Cyanogenmod builds came very quickly after Xiaomi released the kernel sources. I'm also waiting for them, this device would be so much better with Lineage OS, or anything other than a MIUI rom, although the EPIC rom is getting fairly close
You can follow the official github for xiaomi devices here: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
Mi5 owners also did a petition though, asking Xiaomi to release the kernel sources for the mi5, maybe we should do the same for the MIX ?
brambizimski said:
I've experienced that with the Mi5, Cyanogenmod builds came very quickly after Xiaomi released the kernel sources. I'm also waiting for them, this device would be so much better with Lineage OS, or anything other than a MIUI rom, although the EPIC rom is getting fairly close
You can follow the official github for xiaomi devices here: https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
Mi5 owners also did a petition though, asking Xiaomi to release the kernel sources for the mi5, maybe we should do the same for the MIX ?
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How do we submit a petition? Lets do it!
Constrabus said:
How do we submit a petition? Lets do it!
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:laugh: it's already been done early build up and running been using for a week.
jazz452 said:
:laugh: it's already been done early build up and running been using for a week.
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Right but its not a true build. It's using the sources that were released for the Mi5s.
i am very confusing times with the talks
some of the dev said lineage team will deliver lithium rom when device hits the android 7.0 update
sooo can we build a aosp marshmellow rom or ve stay awake for the xiaomi to release the kernel for mix?
there is nothing at all to be confused about. if there is no source code released there will be no AOSP. we should be bugging Xiaomi for the source, if that was out we'd have AOSP roms already.
probably best to make a thread on the MIUI forums to urge them to release source
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there is nothing at all to be confused about. if there is no source code released there will be no AOSP. we should be bugging Xiaomi for the source, if that was out we'd have AOSP roms already.
probably best to make a thread on the MIUI forums to urge them to release source
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If you know of any threads that pressure MIUI let me know would love to bug them a bit for source code lol
matever said:
If you know of any threads that pressure MIUI let me know would love to bug them a bit for source code lol
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here is your link http://en.miui.com/thread-539978-1-1.html
MIUI is not open source.
If you want an open source OS, do not buy a xiaomi device.
Xiaomi does not release the source code, even if they use as base the android code which is open source (this is permitted by the Apache license).
They don't even release the code of the modified kernel, even if they are obliged by the GNU GPL licence of linux.
Does it mean we get never lineage or resurrection Rom,?
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Does it mean we get never lineage or resurrection Rom,?
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someday perhaps, it may though take some time
Unless Xiaomi release Mi Mix internationally, I don't see this happening anytime soon. The relatively small user base doesn't help either.
The Mi Pad source was only released three years after release, to give you an idea.
Like most Mix owners, I love the phone but hated its software. MIUI is just not for users outside of China.
This is my first Xiaomi phone and will probably be my last. Will either go for Google phones or OnePlus.
Kevinkuensken said:
Does it mean we get never lineage or resurrection Rom,?
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Here is an unofficial Resurrection Rom
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/development/rom-resurrection-remix-04-09-2017-t3587049
I don't understand
Have you looked at the Telegram group? A lot of development seems to bypass xda these days. That slightly worries me as the ROMs are all unofficial and I'm always worried what might get added - surprising we don't get ROM based malware more often. At least here reputation is long term so that seems less of a risk.
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Have you looked at the Telegram group? A lot of development seems to bypass xda these days. That slightly worries me as the ROMs are all unofficial and I'm always worried what might get added - surprising we don't get ROM based malware more often. At least here reputation is long term so that seems less of a risk.
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Yes, I'm up to date on telegram, that's why I ask, they are all unofficial custom roms or ports and I don't understand why no dev team works on official roms
bbxs said:
Yes, I'm up to date on telegram, that's why I ask, they are all unofficial custom roms or ports and I don't understand why no dev team works on official roms
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I wish I knew - staying on MIUI until there's something official, ideally crDroid, Lineage or similar long term projects.
To avoid any errors of judgement:
Official ROM maintainers are not supposed to make changes to the source. So, they are not likely to fix any bug which is related to the source. Meanwhile, unofficial ROM maintainers are not having any restrictions. They are free to make any changes to the source to suit their needs. So, the unofficial maintainers often fix source-related bugs before the official one.
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To avoid any errors of judgement:
Official ROM maintainers are not supposed to make changes to the source. So, they are not likely to fix any bug which is related to the source. Meanwhile, unofficial ROM maintainers are not having any restrictions. They are free to make any changes to the source to suit their needs. So, the unofficial maintainers often fix source-related bugs before the official one.
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That's how I understand it, and having that level of code review in the official builds is what almost guarantees you can trust a ROM with your banking etc. I haven't actually heard of any unofficial ROM being naughty, but there's nothing to stop it.
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That's how I understand it, and having that level of code review in the official builds is what almost guarantees you can trust a ROM with your banking etc. I haven't actually heard of any unofficial ROM being naughty, but there's nothing to stop it.
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For having used with several devices, several official or unofficial roms over several years, I have never had a problem with banking apps (for those who support them, of course).
Note that when there are no more brand updates, the developers are obliged to modify the source to continue to develop the rom.
XDA is a trustworthy source, for others I don't know.
And following that explanation...why are there other low-priced xiaomi models and also old models that have many official roms here on xda? I am very concerned that we have many unofficial aosp roms on telegram and here on xda absolutely none. Why do the devs of this model never publish on xda and other xiaomi models do? That doesn't give me confidence and I still don't understand
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And following that explanation...why are there other low-priced xiaomi models and also old models that have many official roms here on xda? I am very concerned that we have many unofficial aosp roms on telegram and here on xda absolutely none. Why do the devs of this model never publish on xda and other xiaomi models do? That doesn't give me confidence and I still don't understand
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Surely a question of rules and money.
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Surely a question of rules and money.
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And because Xiaomi is incompetent in terms of releasing Kernel Source
GitHub - MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource: Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource
Xiaomi Mobile Phone Kernel OpenSource. Contribute to MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
Xiaomi 11T Pro codename vili Kernel is still stuck on Android 11 meanwhile we are expecting Android 13 soon.
Many devices are missing there and also lack of kernel update.