How to remove Glue from Edges-Frame - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hello gyuz,
As mentioned in another thread in Accessories sub-forum, while Installing the Whitestone Dome Screen Protector (https://www.whitestonedome.com/) on my Samsung Galaxy Note 8, there was UV glue spillage all around the phone & now I have dried (UV cured) glue in the tiniest gap between the screen edges and the metal frame of the phone. Please check attached image, I have circled with red the exact location of the glue, however imagine this almost all around the phone:
Now I need a good UV glue remover to soften the dried glue and an extremely thin blade (or a similar tool) to reach in the gap and remove it. I saw some products on ebay, however I am not sure which will do the job.
First of all which Glue Remover is more suitable? Does it have to be a branded one? Or the unbranded ones will do the job as well? Is there danger that the remover will dry and stay in the gap making it worse? Will it damage the color or consistency of the metal frame? Will it damage the buttons (Power, Volum, Bixby)?
Secondly, which tool should do the job reaching such tiny gap while at the same time not scratching the screen or the metal frame? Metal Blade? Plastic Blade? Wire? Some other tool?
Please advise, as I am nearly desperate. Thank you!

Damn, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't use screen protectors on my phones. I've used a glass one on my Note 5 but didn't like it. Naked display feels the best and performs the best. Not fuss, no glue, no BS. Eeek!

roaduardo said:
Damn, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't use screen protectors on my phones. I've used a glass one on my Note 5 but didn't like it. Naked display feels the best and performs the best. Not fuss, no glue, no BS. Eeek!
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Agree with everything. if i had the chance again I would leave it naked, however I would still feel very uncomfortable without protection.. Actual screen exposed to everything is a little risky!

OP, wish I could advise you, but all I can say is take your time and don't rush this task. Since as you aware, you don't want to use a chemical or item that will damage the frame or buttons. Don't use any metal objects.
Feel for you bro, you go ahead with good intentions to protect your device and now in a predicament.
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Limeybastard said:
OP, wish I could advise you, but all I can say is take your time and don't rush this task. Since as you aware, you don't want to use a chemical or item that will damage the frame or buttons. Don't use any metal objects.
Feel for you bro, you go ahead with good intentions to protect your device and now in a predicament.
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Thanks for your understanding mate. Indeed tried for the best and ended up worse.
I am not rushing for now, just conctacted Whitestone themselves asking advise on how to fix it, as well as an ebay seller that sells such equipment/tools. He suggested me these:
http://ebay.eu/2g3RySr
http://ebay.eu/2kATYJV
I am not sure about the quality of the Glue Remover and how thin the tools (blades & spudger) are though. Have to make a little research.
That is why also I opened the thread to ask for opinions from people that may have done this or similar task before and to help others in the future.

Warlord1981 said:
Thanks for your understanding mate. Indeed tried for the best and ended up worse.
I am not rushing for now, just conctacted Whitestone themselves asking advise on how to fix it, as well as an ebay seller that sells such equipment/tools. He suggested me these:
http://ebay.eu/2g3RySr
http://ebay.eu/2kATYJV
I am not sure about the quality of the Glue Remover and how thin the tools (blades & spudger) are though. Have to make a little research.
That is why also I opened the thread to ask for opinions from people that may have done this or similar task before and to help others in the future.
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Before using any chemicals, I would try and use the finest /thinnest plastic card or tool to scrape the glue out of the edges first. Chemicals would be my last resort. Good luck my friend.:good:

roaduardo said:
Damn, I'm sorry you're having to deal with this. This is one of the biggest reasons why I don't use screen protectors on my phones. I've used a glass one on my Note 5 but didn't like it. Naked display feels the best and performs the best. Not fuss, no glue, no BS. Eeek!
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I have dropped my phones at least 5 times in the last year and each time it landed screen side down. I broke all 5 glass protectors but never the screen. That is why I must have a full adhesive glass protector on. It is a PITA to get perfect but for me, it's worth it.

Mike02z said:
I have dropped my phones at least 5 times in the last year and each time it landed screen side down. I broke all 5 glass protectors but never the screen. That is why I must have a full adhesive glass protector on. It is a PITA to get perfect but for me, it's worth it.
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I understand, some people need it. I haven't chipped or broken a display since I had an iPhone. Knock wood. Naked is glorious, though.

Plastic tools and alcohol are your friends.
99% Isopropyl should be able to dissolve the glue, and shouldn't leave a mark on the phone (iso evaporates completely and is not dangerous to plastics or metals). A stiff bristled plastic brush would be ideal, maybe an old toothbrush. The thinner and stiffer the bristles, the better.
The iso will dissolve the glue, but you'll need to mechanically agitate it to remove it completely. Bear in mind that traces of iso having touched the glue will streak glass , so a second/third rinse with iso may be necessary.
I'd be careful about getting iso into the switches, as long term iso can degrade rubber (switch seals etc) but as long as you clean, then dry out effectively there shouldn't be an issue (iso will evaporate at room temp in any case). Covering the switches with tape could help, but iso is so thin it will probably go under the tape, and will likely dissolve the glue on the tape too!
e: Whatever you do don't use acetone or any other stronger solvent. Depending on the plastics used acetone will eat right through them, and may affect the finish on other parts too.
Iso really is a decent cleaning solution for most electronic devices.
e ii: Oh, and if you use an old toothbrush, make sure it's very clean. Getting some toothpaste grit on the screen and rubbing it in with a brush would be tragic. Maybe even buy a brand new brush just for this job? Not too expensive for the job, imho.

Limeybastard said:
Before using any chemicals, I would try and use the finest /thinnest plastic card or tool to scrape the glue out of the edges first. Chemicals would be my last resort. Good luck my friend.:good:
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Yes I'm trying to find such thin tool made of plastic. Cards are too thick for it. It needs to be so thin that can cut you..like razor blades maybe even thinner.

Warlord1981 said:
Yes I'm trying to find such thin tool made of plastic. Cards are too thick for it. It needs to be so thin that can cut you..like razor blades maybe even thinner.
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Packaging plastic is often thin and stiff... Cut it into a triangle and see if you can get "under" the glue in the gap.

roaduardo said:
I understand, some people need it. I haven't chipped or broken a display since I had an iPhone. Knock wood. Naked is glorious, though.
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HAHAH, SNAP! Same here, last phone I ever broke was my last iphone I owned , it was the iphone 4s. That was when I was drinking also,
Nekid, is always glorious, without a shadow of a doubt. But I am too shy and need coverage.

iPhone screens can be so brittle. I got used to changing screens for friends at work. During lunch they'd bring me their replacement display kits that they ordered from Ebay and I'd replace their broken screen for some Subway (as payment).

Warlord1981 said:
Yes I'm trying to find such thin tool made of plastic. Cards are too thick for it. It needs to be so thin that can cut you..like razor blades maybe even thinner.
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Indeed, but not metal.

What i used after installing the whitedome was a sheet of paper, running the corner around gap. Cleaned it easily this way.

princeasi said:
What i used after installing the whitedome was a sheet of paper, running the corner around gap. Cleaned it easily this way.
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I think OP needs something as thin but stiffer as his glue is cured fully now.
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Limeybastard said:
I think OP needs something as thin but stiffer as his glue is cured fully now.
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The glue stays soft. If you run the paper around it, it will come up. After about a half a cycle thru, I would cut the edge of the paper each time so that I can continue with a firm edge. I did this after a week of installation.

princeasi said:
The glue stays soft. If you run the paper around it, it will come up. After about a half a cycle thru, I would cut the edge of the paper each time so that I can continue with a firm edge. I did this after a week of installation.
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Guyz you won't believe it! For the past 2 hours I was doing exactly that! Actually what worked best was a piece of paper that had the dust removal stickers on it (got it from the Olixar Sentinel Case/Screen Protector kit), which is more firm than plain A4 paper. And I was cutting it all the time to keep its sharpness. At some point it finished and I used just plain A4 paper, which wasn't the same but it kinda worked as well..
I was running it inch by inch around the whole frame, taking out glue (indeed soft) little by little! I think it's much better now, though I think I will do another round in the near future.

well after watching videos.. I could see I never needed ALL of that small tube of glue. I always use some kind of screen protector. I like to sell or give away. And you can ALWAYS tell the used phones that never had a screen protector. Always some kind of scratches.. For me selling it mint.. gets more money.
So use some kind of plastic not metal blade to get the excess glue off. It comes off so easily

Warlord1981 said:
First of all which Glue Remover is more suitable? Does it have to be a branded one? Or the unbranded ones will do the job as well? Is there danger that the remover will dry and stay in the gap making it worse? Will it damage the color or consistency of the metal frame? Will it damage the buttons (Power, Volum, Bixby)?
Secondly, which tool should do the job reaching such tiny gap while at the same time not scratching the screen or the metal frame? Metal Blade? Plastic Blade? Wire? Some other tool?
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I had the same issue with mine and all I used is the film that you remove from the Glass protector before application.. cut off small squares and I ran that in the tiny gaps but making sure you don't go too deep.. Patience and time is must..
I do have a question though.. What is the best thing to use if I wanted to remove my protector off, clean the cured adhesive and use the 2nd bottle to reapply??

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Sanding Down The Bezel?

Does anyone have experience with dealing with small chips in plastic? I have some small but noticeable chips on my Bezel. You can't really see them but you can feel the tiny bump. I was thinking of sanding it down... Would this damage it further? Is there some special sandpaper I should use?
Anderdroid said:
Does anyone have experience with dealing with small chips in plastic? I have some small but noticeable chips on my Bezel. You can't really see them but you can feel the tiny bump. I was thinking of sanding it down... Would this damage it further? Is there some special sandpaper I should use?
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I don't think using sandpaper is a good idea. I could be wrong but it would definitely remove the smoothness from your bezel and make it even more rough, and might even cause more damage. I know that in order to get rid of scratches on CDs one method is to use toothpaste (it has very, very fine grit) to 'sand' them out and its worked pretty well for me but you can definitely its been done. If you're worried I'd get a good case man, that'd protect your bezel and hide whatever damage has already been done.
Carefully use a little bit of acetone or MEK on a qtip.
CAREFULLY!
Chance of you ruining the phone are pretty high if you take sandpaper or acetone to it. Just deal with it, IMO.
accidentally scuff your screen or drip any acetone on it, and it will look like crap
I never use phone cases... makes phones too fat lol.
I would strongly advise you not to sandpaper your bezel. It'll just make things worse. Put a case on it and forget about it
In case you are planning to work on it, remove the benzel first. I know it can be done cause I partially removed mine when some paper got stuck in between the screen. It is clipped there.
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Anderdroid said:
I never use phone cases... makes phones too fat lol.
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Use a pouch for it for when your not using it.
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Despite what people have said, you can use sandpaper, it just has to be a very high grit. If you want to remove scratches in plastic, I suggest you buy a pentair acrylic scratch removal kit. I have one and use it to remove all kinds of scratches in practically any type of shiny plastic, and I've actually used it to remove scratches on my SNS bezel. I would be very careful using any abrasive around the bezel because I would assume the screen coating is very easy to scratch.
Does that kit actually work? My vibrant tpu case let grit scatch the back and bezel and it drove me nuts. The nxs does easily but I ghost skinned my latest one and not a scrach yet. The full body kit looks great, and covers all but a tiny part on the front of the bezel. Due to the vinyl on there, the bezel is almost recessed so it doesn't seem to get the exposure to scratches that naked did too. If that pentair kit actually works id love to pick one up just in case and have someone do a detailed guide on how to do it right.
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Just thought I'd say... It's more of an actual chip in the bezel than 'scratches'.
Guess I'll just wait for global direct parts to start selling some bezels. Easy to replace...

Scratches! help!

Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
Should've put a screen protector immediately when you got it.
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you may find adding a protector now will hide the scratches if they are small enough
They may be superficial. Did you try some good rubbing with a lint free cloth. I had no sp for the longest with no scratches
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crackster said:
Ok am really! careful with my screen! but some how i have some little hair line Scratches! on my screen.. is there any way i can remove them safe? cheers
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sadly NO, If it makes you feel any better my Note always has a case on and just once i removed it for 5 minutes, I manage to drop the phone on a concrete now my screen is scratched thank good the glass didn't break.
I have a scratch on my Galaxy Note also :/ I've only just had it for a week. I only noticed the scratch when I was about to put the screen protector on. I think it happened due to me showing my sister my phone, and she gave my phone to my TWO year old niece to draw on :/ I'm so upset and angry about it. I've dropped my HTC Desire HD many times and not a single scratch.
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I have a tiny little scratch on my note as well. Its no big deal because it can't be seen unless you direct it to the light at a certain angle but it still bugs me.
It seems like the scratch was made with the s pen as it has the pattern of something I had drawn when I was trying out the s pen.
I'll be getting a screen film soon to avoid any further scratches.
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I got a 1mm deep scratch on my screen to
again always had a cover on it and when i took the cover off ... guess what .. it fell on its face and got the scratch.
Now i have the flip cover on it and wouldn't risk taking it off again.
As they mention : Gorilla grass is scratch resistant only.
Look up 'Displex' - it's the best scratch remover there is, and it's cheap too.
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This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
p51d007 said:
This isn't for the faint of heart....
I built scale plastic model airplanes for 30+ years until the bifocals & carpel tunnel made it impossible to hold an airbrush.
The clear plastic "glass" parts, if not packaged in a bag, can get scratched, screwing up a good looking model.
For starters, try some mild toothpaste. DO NOT rub very hard. It's glass, but you don't want to really screw it up...just in case. After toothpaste, try buffing it with a sheep skin cloth (chamois). Now this one will sound silly, but it works on plastic, clear future floor wax. I used it from time to time to fill the spider cracks where they didn't get the mold clean when they injected the plastic.
I haven't had to fix a gorilla glass/hardened glass screen, but I've used these tricks on my old windows phones & pda's after too many uses of the stylus.
I don't use a protector on either my streak, for over a year, or my note for the last 3 months. I don't understand how they are getting scratched.
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Clear floor polish works on harder clear plastic. Never tried on glass. WOrth trying for $10 from local supermarket. And then put a cover on it
I'm lucky so far - only scratches have been on the screen protectors. But then I need to replace them - used up two so far, and good quality 6H ones too! Better than a scratched glass though - sorry to hear about that!

Tempered glass solution: LOCA

I think some may have hard time to install due to space around the perimeter.
I have same problem but I use LOCA (I use Octopus brand for easy removal) to fill the space
Apply LOCA on the side and squeeze the space to let it in. It may take a while so please be patient.
Cure it with UV and remove the excess afterwards.
Clean the phone with microfiber cloth
A UV protector seems overkill. Phone has a flat screen. No need for the extra headache.
LLStarks said:
A UV protector seems overkill. Phone has a flat screen. No need for the extra headache.
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he was using it to fill the gap between the screen protector and case
LLStarks said:
A UV protector seems overkill. Phone has a flat screen. No need for the extra headache.
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Uh what? UV is to cure the LOCA glue.
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Using LOCA like this is kinda cool and novel.
But for a dedicated glass and LOCA kit: It's overkill. I have to be next to naked or in a humid environment when I install these. I usually have zero confidence unless there's a Whitestone rig or similar to manage the process. Even then, I ruined my McLaren selfie camera because the glue goes everywhere more often than not. Doesn't matter if I have excess glue pads. When a phone has a flat screen, you don't have to go through this madness. It looks amazing when you get it right, but it's never been worth the price and the cheap kits on Ali or Ebay aren't anymore appealing.
LLStarks said:
Using LOCA like this is kinda cool and novel.
But for a dedicated glass and LOCA kit: It's overkill. I have to be next to naked or in a humid environment when I install these. I usually have zero confidence unless there's a Whitestone rig or similar to manage the process. Even then, I ruined my McLaren selfie camera because the glue goes everywhere more often than not. Doesn't matter if I have excess glue pads. When a phone has a flat screen, you don't have to go through this madness. It looks amazing when you get it right, but it's never been worth the price and the cheap kits on Ali or Ebay aren't anymore appealing.
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True, no LOCA needed.
This is without it... Just a normal screenprotector on the flat display

My review of the Samsung Kvadrat case.

Feels really nice but doesn't have much or any drop protection.
Some pics from your amusement. Lower part of case where the usb port is , very thin flimsy silicon.
There is the same "problem" or "design specificity" with the "U" shape. I am referring to the the fact that the screen itself is only protected on the vertical bars of the U and not on the horizontal bar of the U (most likely due to the fact that the screen bends into the phone side).
Also it seems on the second picture that the bulge of the camera lens is still going out with your case?
Do you use a protection for that camera lens, like some glass cover or something?
Update on my review after a few days of usage. Pinky finger fatigue due to the sharp edge of the lower back material meeting the silicon tpu , it's raised and cuts into pinky finger.
5 out of 10. Not worth it.
Going back to my Ringke Air and Spigen thin fit , both offer slightly better protection but more importantly more comfortable to hold at around 70% less in price .
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There is the same "problem" or "design specificity" with the "U" shape. I am referring to the the fact that the screen itself is only protected on the vertical bars of the U and not on the horizontal bar of the U (most likely due to the fact that the screen bends into the phone side).
Also it seems on the second picture that the bulge of the camera lens is still going out with your case?
Do you use a protection for that camera lens, like some glass cover or something?
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The lens area of the cover is raised slightly and yes I have a lens cover .
Limeybastard said:
Update on my review after a few days of usage. Pinky finger fatigue due to the sharp edge of the lower back material meeting the silicon tpu , it's raised and cuts into pinky finger.
5 out of 10. Not worth it.
Going back to my Ringke Air and Spigen thin fit , both offer slightly better protection but more importantly more comfortable to hold at around 70% less in price .
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Take a look at the Bolt case. Been using it for my 10+ for over a year. My favorite case ever.
Doesn't add much bulk, easy to hold and in spite of half dozen plus drops on concrete shows no damage*. 2 layer composite or 3 layer if you use the clip on back; it's very well protected in that configuration.
*replace one out of concern of corner fatigue from repeated same corner hits. At $20 a pop better safe than sorry...
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Take a look at the Bolt case. Been using it for my 10+ for over a year. My favorite case ever.
Doesn't add much bulk, easy to hold and in spite of half dozen plus drops on concrete shows no damage*. 2 layer composite or 3 layer if you use the clip on back; it's very well protected in that configuration.
*replace one out of concern of corner fatigue from repeated same corner hits. At $20 a pop better safe than sorry...
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It's too lumpy, remember - death grip comment?
Limeybastard said:
It's too lumpy, remember - death grip comment?
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Lol, yeah. I don't notice that in actual use. It doesn't slip out of your hand easily.
I'm holding it by it's flip out stand as I pecked this out. A lot of ways to easily hold it.
Talking of death grips I have the Kyber 2 mountain boots which are great but they're a bear to lace up tight. Finally realized after straining a second first finger joint that the lace up was the cause. Damn finger strain hurts.
So I can see you crippling yourself with the wrong case
blackhawk said:
Lol, yeah. I don't notice that in actual use. It doesn't slip out of your hand easily.
I'm holding it by it's flip out stand as I pecked this out. A lot of ways to easily hold it.
Talking of death grips I have the Kyber 2 mountain boots which are great but they're a bear to lace up tight. Finally realized after straining a second first finger joint that the lace up was the cause. Damn finger strain hurts.
So I can see you crippling yourself with the wrong case
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I might treat myself to one for educational purposes since I'm giving up smoking lol.
Don't worry, I cripple myself just cutting hedges lately .
Limeybastard said:
I might treat myself to one for educational purposes since I'm giving up smoking lol.
Don't worry, I cripple myself just cutting hedges lately .
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I like cigars.
Good as long as you remember never to inhale... sometimes I forget, briefly
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I like cigars.
Good as long as you remember never to inhale... sometimes I forget, briefly
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I'd only be kidding myself with a cigar or a pipe. I'd stopped for 8 years until last year.
Reference the Zizo bolt case, are the insides soft or hard plastic?
Limeybastard said:
I'd only be kidding myself with a cigar or a pipe. I'd stopped for 8 years until last year.
Reference the Zizo bolt case, are the insides soft or hard plastic?
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High density urethane. The last corner can be tough to put in. Fair warning: use care in this stage with a screen protector. Glass ones may not have clearance, not sure*. I use a piece of stretched teflon tape to protect the buttons and R/L side rails from dirt and make insertion easier.
Warming it in the sun etc may help... will try this next time.
Obviously you then the snap on polycarbonate back piece on last. This piece is stiff but almost impossible to break. Put the button side on first.
Button side is last when disassembling.
With the fold out stand: either leave it snapped in or use fully extended. The retaining pins can slip out if left loose in pocket. They can be put back in if not lost as I discovered one day. Otherwise it's surprisingly sturdy; I use it constantly.
*since it's urethane you can easily machine, cut, file, sand it if you need to but I recommend not to unless absolutely needed as that could reduce the level of protection.
Lol, it will be ok
blackhawk said:
High density urethane. The last corner can be tough to put in. Fair warning: use care in this stage with a screen protector. Glass ones may not have clearance, not sure*. I use a piece of stretched teflon tape to protect the buttons and R/L side rails from dirt and make insertion easier.
Warming it in the sun etc may help... will try this next time.
Obviously you then the snap on polycarbonate back piece on last. This piece is stiff but almost impossible to break. Put the button side on first.
Button side is last when disassembling.
With the fold out stand: either leave it snapped in or use fully extended. The retaining pins can slip out if left loose in pocket. They can be put back in if not lost as I discovered one day. Otherwise it's surprisingly sturdy; I use it constantly.
*since it's urethane you can easily machine, cut, file, sand it if you need to but I recommend not to unless absolutely needed as that could reduce the level of protection.
Lol, it will be ok
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What worries me, and it has done so since my using a hard inner plastic case in the past is damage to the frame of the device. Yes, dirt will cause this , but I regularly remove devices and dust out the frame and case. But with hard gizzarded cases I always seem to get micro marring or scratches on frames. Hence I've avoided them like a plague during the last 5 years.
Limeybastard said:
What worries me, and it has done so since my using a hard inner plastic case in the past is damage to the frame of the device. Yes, dirt will cause this , but I regularly remove devices and dust out the frame and case. But with hard gizzarded cases I always seem to get micro marring or scratches on frames. Hence I've avoided them like a plague during the last 5 years.
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It happens with soft silicon inner liners too
This really irritates me... to put it politely.
Therefor the teflon tape. It's a little tedious but it's cheap so you can practice.
No damage yet to my 10+ doing it this way.
I start just after the holes on the top, around the corner to as far as the first hole on the bottom.
I stretch it somewhat and try to keep it right below the screen. Same on other side but take the spen out them simply punch through the tape.
The stretch at the corners hold it in place.
It can get pushed out when putting on the case but that's just cosmetic. It can be pushed down but some while may show.
Seals it well from that damn grit.
If you have any better ideas, please share.
blackhawk said:
It happens with soft silicon inner liners too
This really irritates me... to put it politely.
Therefor the teflon tape. It's a little tedious but it's cheap so you can practice.
No damage yet to my 10+ doing it this way.
I start just after the holes on the top, around the corner to as far as the first hole on the bottom.
I stretch it somewhat and try to keep it right below the screen. Same on other side but take the spen out them simply punch through the tape.
The stretch at the corners hold it in place.
It can get pushed out when putting on the case but that's just cosmetic. It can be pushed down but some while may show.
Seals it well from that damn grit.
If you have any better ideas, please share.
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Yep soft silicon as its name implies contains silicon , one can clearly see the micro marring on high polished silver frames when using these.
Limeybastard said:
Yep soft silicon as its name implies contains silicon , one can clearly see the micro marring on high polished silver frames when using these.
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It's a polymer based on silicon, it is no more abrasive than soft plastics.
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It's actually the external grit that causes the marring. If you seal the surfaces completely from foriegn particles they will stay pristine.
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It's a polymer based on silicon, it is no more abrasive than soft plastics.
Silicone - Wikipedia
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It's actually the external grit that causes the marring. If you seal the surfaces completely from foriegn particles they will stay pristine.
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I've seen silicon cases marring stainless steel frames, and these were cleaned before , however, the device and the case were placed in a grip like a car phone holder . Using tpu or other plastics didn't cause marring. I've ran tests as nerdy as it sounds

Question S21 Ultra camera lens scratches

Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
Really sorry to hear that. Just out of precaution, I have placed a whitestone dome glass protector on mine, just because I dont want to experience anything like that with a EUR1300 phone. Not that much expensive and you get two protectors in the box.
shetty08 said:
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
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how was it scratched? only from keys?
Be very wary of scratching this phone. I recently figured out that the S21 Ultra supposedly does not have the same Victus glass design as the Note 20 Ultra... It has a slightly modified form of Victus that's much, much thinner (as it's covered by another, easily scratch-able glass material...and so the cameras might be like this too)... So instead of being resistant to most micro-scratches, they are actually easier to get and become permanent immediately on this phone (learned this by scratching my display with denim jeans - no metal/button contact) =(.
I'm just assuming that they're doing this to increase their glass repair jobs... Granted, Apple has been doing this with their iPhones for an extremely long time now... But hey, Samsung has started acting kinda like they're the Apple-like company of Android, lol.
im sorry, but you what?
you scratched glass with jeans?
I'm a stainless steel fabricator do I'm in the worst possible job for scratching phones so have the screen and camera protected, ESR TPU for the front and LK glass for the camera, don't even notice they are on at all and only coast 20 yo-yos for both
The lenses don't scratch easily, but depending on what you do during your day you might end up with stuff in your pockets that will do it. There are a lot of glass protectors for the cameras out there for the S21U, for example in the US you can get a 2-pack from Spigen for $12, and a bunch more that are even cheaper.
If you get one, get one of the blacked out ones, You will get artifacts in your photos from the flash/AF light as they get channeled across the glass of the protector if you don't; learned that one from using clear cases over the years.
Are you sure the lenses are scratched or the camera bump? Because the camera bump is not made of glass! It's metal and the darker colors of phones will be a horrible one, especially phantom black!!
That's not the lense. It's a factory protector.
May have been marred during assembly.
Don't sweat as it can be replaced if needed. A very slight may no effect the images at all but because the otherall area is so small it might. Protectors are a waste of money; it -is- the lense protector!
Any added optic elements will degrade the image.
It's possible to polish out micro scratches with a clean, dry finger tip by rubbing back and forth on glass or antireflective coatings. Takes at least 30 minutes or more... if it really bugs you. Yes dry callus is abrasive and hard enough to polish glass.
Likewise even the smallest amount of grit, sand etc rubbed against it by your finger can marred it.
Don't use that opening in the case as a pickup point.
It can also be marred by improper cleaning. Only use a clean dry microfiber cloth. Wet it a little if need be. Ordinary cotton cloth will eventually cause scratches owing to unseen debris it picked up. Seen many a pair of glasses made of glass scratched like this. Grit stinks into the microfiber material away from the surface being cleaned helping to protect it.
My 10+ lense protector is plastic. I live in the desert. I occasionally clean it but only with a microfiber cloth the same way I treat high dollar optics. No damage after a year and a half.
Just use a good case with a raised cam guard.
blackhawk said:
That's not the lense. It's a factory protector.
May have been marred during assembly.
Don't sweat as it can be replaced if needed. A very slight may no effect the images at all but because the otherall area is so small it might. Protectors are a waste of money; it -is- the lense protector!
Any added optic elements will degrade the image.
It's possible to polish out micro scratches with a clean, dry finger tip by rubbing back and forth on glass or antireflective coatings. Takes at least 30 minutes or more... if it really bugs you. Yes dry callus is abrasive and hard enough to polish glass.
Likewise even the smallest amount of grit, sand etc rubbed against it by your finger can marred it.
Don't use that opening in the case as a pickup point.
It can also be marred by improper cleaning. Only use a clean dry microfiber cloth. Wet it a little if need be. Ordinary cotton cloth will eventually cause scratches owing to unseen debris it picked up. Seen many a pair of glasses made of glass scratched like this. Grit stinks into the microfiber material away from the surface being cleaned helping to protect it.
My 10+ lense protector is plastic. I live in the desert. I occasionally clean it but only with a microfiber cloth the same way I treat high dollar optics. No damage after a year and a half.
Just use a good case with a raised cam guard.
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Hey thanks man for the reassuring reply!
As I said in the post, Its barely been 2 weeks and I didn't even travelled much, put it in jeans with keys, coins etc. It was lying dormant with little use.
On close inspection in direct sunlight / outdoors. I saw lines which are underneath the lens glass and not on the surface.
I just don't want the image quality to suffer and plus the service center sucks (experience in dealing with S20+)
Not sure if they will acknowledge it or tag it as a user handling damage.
What are my options?
nightoooo said:
Are you sure the lenses are scratched or the camera bump? Because the camera bump is not made of glass! It's metal and the darker colors of phones will be a horrible one, especially phantom black!!
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The lens area only, the bump I know is metal and it is intact.
shetty08 said:
Hey thanks man for the reassuring reply!
As I said in the post, Its barely been 2 weeks and I didn't even travelled much, put it in jeans with keys, coins etc. It was lying dormant with little use.
On close inspection in direct sunlight / outdoors. I saw lines which are underneath the lens glass and not on the surface.
I just don't want the image quality to suffer and plus the service center sucks (experience in dealing with S20+)
Not sure if they will acknowledge it or tag it as a user handling damage.
What are my options?
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If it's on the internal side there's no way you did. Make sure you specify that if returning it.
If it's on the inside without direct inspection it's hard to tell if it's on or into the glass.
It may simple be a smear albeit a hard to remove smear.
Either way shoddy assembly. Having put together thousands of display assemblies I was always careful that the internal surfaces were spotless.
They are selling camera protectors on aliexpress. However, they are not exactly sticking to the actual lens as they are slightly deeper. That basically would create s small gap between the camera lens and the protector. I would assume it MIGHT slightly degrade quality in some cases. Not sure but it may be worth trying out.
I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim​
https://www.amazon.com/Polycarbonate-Protective-Shockproof-Upgraded-Samsung/dp/B08RRTLX71
shetty08 said:
Hello Everyone,
Been using the S21U for 2 weeks now and I have recently noticed micro scratches on the lens element!
The phone is in transparent TPU case since day 1 and I have hardly went outdoors. I traded off my S20+ and the camera bump didn't had a single line from 10 months of usage.
Has anyone encountered this? Maybe others can have a closer look now at their devices.
Any insights, suggestions on what needs to be done or can be prevented will be welcome!
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I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim​
oraned said:
I solved all these problems I bought
Galaxy S21 Ultra Case with Camera Cover,S21 Ultra Slim​
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I had one of these on my note20u ugliest case ever! But yeah it did its job of protecting.
blackhawk said:
If it's on the internal side there's no way you did. Make sure you specify that if returning it.
If it's on the inside without direct inspection it's hard to tell if it's on or into the glass.
It may simple be a smear albeit a hard to remove smear.
Either way shoddy assembly. Having put together thousands of display assemblies I was always careful that the internal surfaces were spotless.
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hey man,
this smear or minute lines on the inside or whatever is really bugging me!
My experience with samsung support (In my region and India) hasn't been good in the past. They all act as fools who recommend factory reset via their tool for every issue.
My question is will samsung own this or pass on the blame to me as improper handling or usage marks.
I just don't want the already botched up image processing to suffer further.
shetty08 said:
hey man,
this smear or minute lines on the inside or whatever is really bugging me!
My experience with samsung support (In my region and India) hasn't been good in the past. They all act as fools who recommend factory reset via their tool for every issue.
My question is will samsung own this or pass on the blame to me as improper handling or usage marks.
I just don't want the already botched up image processing to suffer further.
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Samsung phone support sucks, real bad.
You can send it in as it's clearly their fault but that will take a lot of time.
Remove back cover and clean or replace if need be. Make sure you have the OEM adhesive strips needed to reassemble it. The replacement lense protector is held on by an adhesive strip*.
It may be easier to get the whole OEM rear panel assembly.
If you do it yourself use heat carefully/evenly and take as long as it takes to carefully pry it open without breaking it. A small amount of isopropyl alcohol can be injected to help break the adhesive seal.
*it maybe replaceable without taking off the rear cover but that maybe hard or impossible to do without marring the cover.
adamlee2012 said:
Keys/coins couldn't scratch the glass anyway. Physically impossible as the glass is harder.
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Sand will easily scratch it. The OP stated that the marks are on the inside, an assembly blunder.
satanatos said:
Really sorry to hear that. Just out of precaution, I have placed a whitestone dome glass protector on mine, just because I dont want to experience anything like that with a EUR1300 phone. Not that much expensive and you get two protectors in the box.
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I just got the Whitestone lens protector myself it's pretty awesome stays on REAL well and adds a bit more sexiness to the already sexy camera bump

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