Moto X4 Bestbuy deal - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

Just preordered my a black moto x4 from bestbuy and noticed that it gave me a $50.00 gift card with the purchase. Essentially knocking the priced down to $349.99. Not a bad deal. Figured I would post it here considering I could not find an advertisement or news story anywhere on it.

That's better then what I got lol ... Amazon is selling them for $329 when I looked last, I paid $399 from Google

Yeah I almost went with the amazon version, but I cannot get over the lockscreen ads. I was worried the one without ads is different than the other skus availible, since you can pay to have the ads removed after the fact. There has to be some amazon bloatware somewhere on the phone.

slayer214 said:
Yeah I almost went with the amazon version, but I cannot get over the lockscreen ads. I was worried the one without ads is different than the other skus availible, since you can pay to have the ads removed after the fact. There has to be some amazon bloatware somewhere on the phone.
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I purchased an Amazon Fire 5th Gen 7" with ads. Even after removing the ads, it's a Bloaty-McBloat-Face. I wiped it and put a stock AOSP ROM on it, and it's twice as fast.

The Amazon with luck screen ads will probably not be able to unlock the bootloader, if the Amazon Moto G4 is any indicator. I remember reading that at first the Amazon Moto G4 could be unlocked but then they put a stop to it and it was no longer allowed.
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We know that other retailers will be carrying the Nexus 5 sooner or later.
For those of us with memebership in the primeverse or for those that prefer to save on shipping & save *ahem* file our own taxes, avoid the google play limbo experience and/or use our chase amazon visa's, I present to you the Nexus 5 Amazon thread.
Let's keep on the lookout for nexus 5 developments relating to amazon and post any information here!
I've heard rumors that amazon will be stocking somewhere between 3-7 days.
However, the rep that I spoke to didn't appear to have any information about upcoming nexus 5 availability.
Here's my chat with the rep:
http://goo.gl/DMza0n
I also believe the stock alerts in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2503657 added amazon to it's monitor list.
i have prime but still paid for expedited shipping and tax from the play store. i dont mind paying more to receive it earlier than to wait.
Pearl sure was useless. You should have told her a joke. Maybe ask her out on a date or something. Better luck next time bro.
I would have waited to purchase it from Amazon, however, I'll still get dinged with sales tax and only save $10 on shipping.
So, I'll just say the $10 was used for help out with the "instant gratification."
I put myself down for a 32GB black that ships in 2-3 weeks, if Amazon gets it before then I will cancel and order from Amazon.
If amazon sells the nexus 5 everything will be perfect
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will the nexus 5 work on wind or mobilicity?
1700/2100 frequency?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1pmrrr/nexus_5_amazon_release_monitoring_cooperative/
It looks like the alert in that thread isn't set up yet. i followed the comments in the reddit topic about using page monitor. hopefully that works. Did we want to set up a hangouts or something? not sure of the best way.
Please Amazon, please please please sell the international version D821. PLEASE!
Sure we can definitely start a hangout if we have enough people/interest.
I think quite a few people just bit the bullet and bought the nexus 5 on google play.
When do you guys expect the N5 on Amazon?
I didn't follow the N4 when it came out. What do you think are we looking at days or weeks?
powersjt4 said:
I didn't follow the N4 when it came out. What do you think are we looking at days or weeks?
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AFAIK, the N4 was not sold by Amazon. The only Google devices they sold were the Chromecast and the Nexus 7 (2013), which were both sold at the same price as the Play store and listed on Amazon on release day.
If I don't get my damn shipping notice by Tuesday like I should I will hope that Amazon has it by then and order it overnight shipping and cancel/resell the playstore order, smh
Ditto_B said:
AFAIK, the N4 was not sold by Amazon. The only Google devices they sold were the Chromecast and the Nexus 7 (2013), which were both sold at the same price as the Play store and listed on Amazon on release day.
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Best Buy has an insane markup — hopefully Amazon doesn't follow suit.
ragnarokx said:
Best Buy has an insane markup — hopefully Amazon doesn't follow suit.
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I have a feeling that the $800 markup is a Sprint thing to "encourage" people to buy it on contract.
I hope they will sell the Unlocked version at the same price as the Play Store since they didn't put a markup on the Nexus 7, Chromecast, or Chromebooks.
Outrager said:
I have a feeling that the $800 markup is a Sprint thing to "encourage" people to buy it on contract.
I hope they will sell the Unlocked version at the same price as the Play Store since they didn't put a markup on the Nexus 7, Chromecast, or Chromebooks.
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I really hope so. Come to think of it, has Amazon ever officially sold an unlocked Nexus phone? I know they didn't sell the Nexus 4, I'm pretty sure they didn't sell the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm vaguely remembering them not carrying the Nexus S or Nexus One.
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I really hope so. Come to think of it, has Amazon ever officially sold an unlocked Nexus phone? I know they didn't sell the Nexus 4, I'm pretty sure they didn't sell the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm vaguely remembering them not carrying the Nexus S or Nexus One.
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This will be their first time officially selling a Nexus phone I believe.
HOWEVER! What has me some what worried is that the pre-order page for Amazon UK's Nexus 5 is extremely overpriced. I really hope it's just a placeholder and they'll fix it when they get it in stock. http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-Nexus-5-...E&s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1383328580&sr=1-3 I would prefer using Amazon to get the phone since I have gift cards.
Outrager said:
I have a feeling that the $800 markup is a Sprint thing to "encourage" people to buy it on contract.
I hope they will sell the Unlocked version at the same price as the Play Store since they didn't put a markup on the Nexus 7, Chromecast, or Chromebooks.
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With BB selling the N5 for $800 and Amazon UK selling it for 520 GBP (~845 USD), I think it's unlikely Amazon US will sell it at the Play Store prices.
one of the posts on that reddit says they plan on pricing it like google. hopefully thats true.

[Q] Motorola or play store?

Hey guys, what is the difference in ordering from the play stor vs motorola ie shipping, warranty etc. Going to try and order Wednesday a 64gb white and would like to get different opinions. Thanks
Good luck. I would try direct from Motorola.
It is the very definition of insanity to sit on a computer and hit refresh hoping for a chance to have the privilege of sending a corporation large chunks of money. Google has been doing some type of social experiment just to see how insane people actually are. I fell prey to this insanity and wasted literally hours attempting to give them my money. Not again. If they begin normal sales I may purchase one but then again I am thinking no corporation who does this sort of thing actually deserves my money. I may look elsewhere. I pulled out an old Note 1 and realized what a great device it was so the Note 4 is looking more attractive to me, even though I like/liked the original concept of Nexus and have purchased every Nexus device that came out. But if I do get one it will be direct from Motorola.
That'll teach 'em. Google still gets your money.
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That'll teach 'em. Google still gets your money.
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It is not about "teaching" anyone. It is about putting up with bulls***.
It's up to you, really. The warranty is exactly the same (It's Motorola's warranty in both cases). Google, historically, has been better about replacing defective/damaged units, but Moto has Moto Care, which is one of the cheapest accidental damage warranties out there. At this time, it doesn't look like you can buy Moto Care for a Play Store model, but that may change (and you can always get the slightly more expensive one from Fair Trade). Also, Moto's site is infinitely easier to order from right now, and they offer a payment plan, unlike Google. On the flip side, Moto charges you immediately, whereas Google only places a hold on your credit card, and doesn't actually charge you until the unit ships. Speaking of shipping, Moto ships via FedEx ground only, whereas Google offers UPS Ground, 2nd Day, and Next Day shipping options.
Pros and Cons either way. I chose Google, because of my past experiences with their replacement policies, but many people swear by Moto, so I think you'll be happy either way.
jt3 said:
It's up to you, really. The warranty is exactly the same (It's Motorola's warranty in both cases). Google, historically, has been better about replacing defective/damaged units, but Moto has Moto Care, which is one of the cheapest accidental damage warranties out there. At this time, it doesn't look like you can buy Moto Care for a Play Store model, but that may change (and you can always get the slightly more expensive one from Fair Trade). Also, Moto's site is infinitely easier to order from right now, and they offer a payment plan, unlike Google. On the flip side, Moto charges you immediately, whereas Google only places a hold on your credit card, and doesn't actually charge you until the unit ships. Speaking of shipping, Moto ships via FedEx ground only, whereas Google offers UPS Ground, 2nd Day, and Next Day shipping options.
Pros and Cons either way. I chose Google, because of my past experiences with their replacement policies, but many people swear by Moto, so I think you'll be happy either way.
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Ok that's what I wanted to know, thank you.
Can't will just buy insurance through the carriers? Verizon, Sprint, etc
Evidently no MotoCare for Nexus 6
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1b06206026
In the motorola forums they said that they will not be offering Moto Care for the Nexus 6.
bsteiner36 said:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/1b06206026
In the motorola forums they said that they will not be offering Moto Care for the Nexus 6.
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That's also been refuted several times by Moto reps, including specific pricing ($85 for 2 years). At this point, it's really a guessing game, since no REAL information will come out until the Nexus 6 is actually launched. With Moto, if you didn't/can't order the extended coverage at purchase time, you can call with the device information once you receive it. We'll know for sure once people receive their devices and attempt to add coverage.
jt3 said:
That's also been refuted several times by Moto reps, including specific pricing ($85 for 2 years). At this point, it's really a guessing game, since no REAL information will come out until the Nexus 6 is actually launched. With Moto, if you didn't/can't order the extended coverage at purchase time, you can call with the device information once you receive it. We'll know for sure once people receive their devices and attempt to add coverage.
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Also just found this, sorry if re post, make sure and read the entire feed. At first glance it gives you the impression that moto care will not be offered, then it goes on to say it is not offered right now, but will be.
https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/531497697937985537
chrisg1548 said:
Hey guys, what is the difference in ordering from the play stor vs motorola ie shipping, warranty etc. Going to try and order Wednesday a 64gb white and would like to get different opinions. Thanks
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From my personal experience I would order from the Google Play Store. Their customer support is amazing (surprisingly) and they gave me a replacement Nexus 5 at no charge because I had set a dumbell on my screen and it smeared everywhere. It was rooted/ unlocked and they could've cared less.
I've been lurking on the n6 forum because I want one but they are hard to comeby at the moment, and I am waiting to see what ATT does with theirs, if they will have ATT bloatware and so on.
mistahseller said:
From my personal experience I would order from the Google Play Store. Their customer support is amazing (surprisingly) and they gave me a replacement Nexus 5 at no charge because I had set a dumbell on my screen and it smeared everywhere. It was rooted/ unlocked and they could've cared less.
I've been lurking on the n6 forum because I want one but they are hard to comeby at the moment, and I am waiting to see what ATT does with theirs, if they will have ATT bloatware and so on.
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Thanks for the advice, as far as I know all models from the carriers shouldn't have bloat ware, not 100% sure.
Isn't it cheaper to order through Motorola? Free shipping and people are reporting the tax is cheaper too.
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[Q] Is it worth paying almost $100 more to order from the Play Store?

Right now Amazon has the 32GB CW on sale for $597.94, if I were to order from the play store it's $691.18 w/tax for me. Both have free shipping. The amazon one is sold and shipped by amazon, not a third party retailer on there. Is it worth spending almost $100 more to order from the Play store, or is the savings worth just ordering it from Amazon and going through Motorola for any possible warranty issues.
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Right now Amazon has the 32GB CW on sale for $597.94, if I were to order from the play store it's $691.18 w/tax for me. Both have free shipping. The amazon one is sold and shipped by amazon, not a third party retailer on there. Is it worth spending almost $100 more to order from the Play store, or is the savings worth just ordering it from Amazon and going through Motorola for any possible warranty issues.
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Same phone...I would order it from Amazon.
I don't know how much extra the 64 Gigabyte one is but that's the one I would buy. If you are backing up and using TWRP, 32 gigs goes fast
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I've ordered and received (March 16) a 64GB version N6 from Amazon -- works fine, no problems (so far).
-- I had unlocked bootloader and rooted the phone right away.
If it were the Nexus 5, I'd say it was worth it. LG were really tricky with their warranty. i.e, flag tripped and unlocked - warranty voided. Google don't care, even if it is unlocked.
The only difference I would say is I believe any non-play purchases would warranty with moto, would have to be relocked before sending back. I think it would be exceptionally rare that you would be in a situation where you couldn't lock the bootloader. USB socket failure perhaps.
Though, maybe someone has returned to moto whilst unlocked?
Only paid 525 for mine on ebay brand new
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Only paid 525 for mine on ebay brand new
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I seldom roll the dice to save $100 but that's me.
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Same here, had a good bid for a new one on eBay! Very happy with it and no taxes or shipping charges!
If your after an N6 I have my cloud white 64gb for sale......http://swappa.com/listing/MWU801/view
Thanks for the input guys. I ended up getting my wife a 64gb for $663 shipped on amazon, and it was sold by amazon directly not a third party.

Amazon Nexus 6 question.

Does anyone know if the nexus 6's that are being sold on amazon are brand new and not refurbished devices that are repackaged?
I'm not sure whether to buy one that is definitely brand new (64gb) for $400 from Motorola or get one of the Amazon resales from swappa or Craigslist for $300-$350. Thanks.
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I purchased my Nexus around Christmas and received it at the beginning of the new year. It was brand new in the box, and not refurbished. Buying new means you have Motorola's warranty, whereas buying used means you're on your own if something goes wrong. With Google's account protection methods in place, buying new is best. If you do choose to buy used, do not buy it on Craigslist but stick with Swappa. With Google now requiring owners to sign in to their accounts prior to using the device after a factory reset (on stock), you run a higher risk of having a bum phone from Craigslist than you do with Swappa. That doesn't mean Swappa is perfect, as some of the sellers of the device on Swappa don't realize that you have to remove your account from Google prior to selling the phone, but in the case of Swappa it isn't an issue of dishonesty, but forgetfulness/ignorance.
The thing on amazon is that you have to be careful who the seller is. I got mine on December sold and shipped by amazon for $250, brand new and sealed... bad thing is that offer already expired and amazon doesn't seems to have any more on inventory. I'm happy with it so far!
I think that right now the best price you can get is 350 from Motorola website.
Edit: I checked my phone's manufacturing date once it arrived and I found out that it was manufactured late November 2015, so I can say it's pretty fresh from the factory.

5Th Gen Fire Tablet 7 Inch FireOS 5.4.0.1

Is there anyway to root or downgrade this so i can install a ROM any ideas? because otherwise, it's just a piece of junk that is annoying me.
Negative on root and not for the foreseeable future. I actually just sold mine the other day. $30. I bought it for $20 used, put a tempered glass protector and a case on it. All in all, if you got a decent deal on it (or if you still have the box) you can get pretty much all your money back selling second hand.
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Negative on root and not for the foreseeable future. I actually just sold mine the other day. $30. I bought it for $20 used, put a tempered glass protector and a case on it. All in all, if you got a decent deal on it (or if you still have the box) you can get pretty much all your money back selling second hand.
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Yep - easily sold an unrooted 5th gen on CL. Still have a pair of boxed 5th gens with 5.0.1 bootloader that I might unload before the batteries go bad. While Fire 7s are quite serviceable (especially with one of @ggow's custom ROMs) I prefer the crispness/responsiveness of higher resolution screens on devices with at least 2GB of memory. Several options in the $50 USD range satisfy that criteria. Still use my remaining Fire 7 on occation; has never let me down.
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Yep - easily sold an unrooted 5th gen on CL. Still have a pair of boxed 5th gens with 5.0.1 bootloader that I might unload before the batteries go bad. While Fire 7s are quite serviceable (especially with one of @ggow's custom ROMs) I prefer the crispness/responsiveness of higher resolution screens on devices with at least 2GB of memory. Several options in the $50 USD range satisfy that criteria. Still use my remaining Fire 7 on occation; has never let me down.
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What tablets are out there in the $50 USD range that run normal android (maybe with the option to load custom Roms)
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What tablets are out there in the $50 USD range that run normal android (maybe with the option to load custom Roms)
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I am partial to (used) 3rd gen Amazon HDX devices. Bootloader can be unlocked opening the door to a full suite of custom ROMs. Hardware is far superior to anything in the current Fire line-up.
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I am partial to (used) 3rd gen Amazon HDX devices. Bootloader can be unlocked opening the door to a full suite of custom ROMs. Hardware is far superior to anything in the current Fire line-up.
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Any current hardware you would recommend with stock android? I see quite a few other tablets in the $50 range now. . .and all three of my boys have destroyed their tablets in the two years they have had them (one fell off a car, another cracked in a backpack, and the other got stepped on). Two are still in use with screen protectors, but they should get replacements. . .but without root, not really interested in the Amazon devices anymore. . .
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Any current hardware you would recommend with stock android? I see quite a few other tablets in the $50 range now. . .and all three of my boys have destroyed their tablets in the two years they have had them (one fell off a car, another cracked in a backpack, and the other got stepped on). Two are still in use with screen protectors, but they should get replacements. . .but without root, not really interested in the Amazon devices anymore. . .
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Sounds like your boys are tough on electronics. In that case a HDX would not be a good choice. You might be better off going with a prepaid handset such as the Motorola G4 which can be had for <$40 at Walmart. Don't activate; just use as WiFi gizmo. Better technical specs than any 5-7th gen Amazon tablet. No root - but really isn't needed w/Android 7.1.
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Sounds like your boys are tough on electronics. In that case a HDX would not be a good choice. You might be better off going with a prepaid handset such as the Motorola G4 which can be had for <$40 at Walmart. Don't activate; just use as WiFi gizmo. Better technical specs than any 5-7th gen Amazon tablet. No root - but really isn't needed w/Android 7.1.
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Hm. Thanks. So 5.5" screen instead of 7" it appears. . .not sure lack of root is an option to lock down with Kidsplace properly.
Davey126 said:
Sounds like your boys are tough on electronics. In that case a HDX would not be a good choice. You might be better off going with a prepaid handset such as the Motorola G4 which can be had for <$40 at Walmart. Don't activate; just use as WiFi gizmo. Better technical specs than any 5-7th gen Amazon tablet. No root - but really isn't needed w/Android 7.1.
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<$40? Am I looking at the wrong device. . .when I search for the Motorola G4, it shows at above $100. . .
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<$40? Am I looking at the wrong device. . .when I search for the Motorola G4, it shows at above $100. . .
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Sorry - it is the E4 which is a slightly better device than the G4. You can compare specs online. Following link valid in the US as of the date of this post. Perpetually 'out of stock' online but usually available in stores. There is no further up-front commitment if not using cellular service (not does it matter if Verizon is available in your area). Note I'm not pumping this device; just offering it up as an example of what's available per my original post. May or may not meet your needs.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Motorola-E4-Prepaid/953073971
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Sorry - it is the E4 which is a slightly better device than the G4. You can compare specs online. Following link valid in the US as of the date of this post. Perpetually 'out of stock' online but usually available in stores. There is no further up-front commitment if not using cellular service (not does it matter if Verizon is available in your area). Note I'm not pumping this device; just offering it up as an example of what's available per my original post. May or may not meet your needs.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Verizon-Motorola-E4-Prepaid/953073971
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Thanks! I'll check it out.

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