Moto X4 Android One on Verizon - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

Hello all,
My Nexus 6p seems to have that Bootlooping issue, but I bought it at Best Buy so i can't RMA it. My plan is to make a Fi account for 1 month, buy a Moto X4 Android one edition, send my dead nexus 6p back to google (the trade in asks if it powers on not if it successfully boots), and then use the Moto X4 on Verizon. Has anyone successfully been using the android one version on Verizon and if so how well does it. Work? Also am i able to sign up for Fi for one month and then cancel it?

It supports all the correct LTE bands, so it should be theoretically compatible. Whether Verizon will accept it or not is another matter.

Yes, it works perfectly (if you already have an activated Verizon SIM card). To the point where VVM is built-in to the phone app and it supports HD calling.
You also don't even have to pay for a month of Fi. When you receive the phone, immediately put in your Verizon SIM card without booting up the phone, and you're good. Fi only starts charging when you activate the Fi SIM card.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm wondering if both could be used. I already have Project Fi, and if this phone is dual-sim, could I put a data-only Verizon SIM in it to supplement the Fi coverage?
Fi uses T-mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular towers. If I were to add Verizon into the mix for an extra $20/month, that would probably be the best coverage possible, right?

Can confirm VoLTE and visual voicemail works out of the box. I haven't run into any issues as of yet :fingers-crossed:

crazyates said:
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm wondering if both could be used. I already have Project Fi, and if this phone is dual-sim, could I put a data-only Verizon SIM in it to supplement the Fi coverage?
Fi uses T-mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular towers. If I were to add Verizon into the mix for an extra $20/month, that would probably be the best coverage possible, right?
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The x4 I just received from Fi does not have a dual sim slot. The slot has room for 1 sim and 1 micro sd card. I have both inserted and the tray is full.
Does the verizon version come with a dual-sim option? Do they also allow a micro sd card?

Jayman007 said:
Does the verizon version come with a dual-sim option? Do they also allow a micro sd card?
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None of the US carriers have announced they will carry the Moto X4 yet. I'd expect an announcement sometime after their earnings call this quarter if they did. I doubt they would allow dual sim on their network though. As far as a dual sim in North America, the XT1900-7 is listed as a dual-sim but idk if it's passed the FCC yet.
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Motorola Moto X4 TD-LTE NA 32GB XT1900-1
Motorola Moto X4 Dual SIM TD-LTE APAC 64GB XT1900-2
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Motorola Moto X4 LTE-A LATAM 32GB XT1900-4
Motorola Moto X4 Dual SIM TD-LTE EMEA 32GB XT1900-5
Motorola Moto X4 HDTV Dual SIM LTE-A LATAM 64GB XT1900-6
Motorola Moto X4 Dual SIM TD-LTE AM 32GB XT1900-7

Hey all thanks for the replies. FYI i ended up jumping on the Beat Buy Essential Phone $100 off deal, but its good to know if im in the market for a phone again sooner than i would hope....

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Yes, it works perfectly (if you already have an activated Verizon SIM card). To the point where VVM is built-in to the phone app and it supports HD calling.
You also don't even have to pay for a month of Fi. When you receive the phone, immediately put in your Verizon SIM card without booting up the phone, and you're good. Fi only starts charging when you activate the Fi SIM card.
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Quick question, if you put the Verizon sim in first, won't it update the software to make unlocking the bootloader impossible later on? I thought I read to make sure before you use the Verizon network, that you boot the phone either without the sim on wifi or with a sim from something other than Verizon so you could update the software an unlock the bootloader before Verizon slammed the door shut on you. If that's incorrect please enlighten, because I'm thinking of getting this phone to use on Verizon to replace my moto x pure.

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Quick question, if you put the Verizon sim in first, won't it update the software to make unlocking the bootloader impossible later on? I thought I read to make sure before you use the Verizon network, that you boot the phone either without the sim on wifi or with a sim from something other than Verizon so you could update the software an unlock the bootloader before Verizon slammed the door shut on you. If that's incorrect please enlighten, because I'm thinking of getting this phone to use on Verizon to replace my moto x pure.
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This has not been the case, for me on Verizon, with a Moto X Pure Edition 2015, a Nexus 6P and a Moto Z2 Play (US Unlocked).
I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted all three.

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Will any Moto X other than the Dev Edition work outside USA's networks?

I've been rocking a Droid Razr M for a while, epic phone!
But I've had my eye on the Moto X since I first heard about it... it just is a fantastic phone from all I've been reading and watching.
Problem is... I'm outside the states. I'm an European currently living in Bolivia.
I can easily get a Moto X same way I got my Razr M => Ebay! .. thing is.. will it work?
The Verizon Droid Razr M worked even before I unlocked it's bootloader etc.. will the Moto X ?
It should work no problem as long as you sim-unlock the phone. I'm using an AT&T Moto X in Canada and it works wonders.
Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
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Just make sure you get the correct phone either gsm or CDMA, of course it depends on what system carriers have in your particular country. I can verify that all gsm Roms ie T-Mobile and at&t work on my rogers gsm phone
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oh thank you!
To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
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...To be honest until very recently I didn't even knew there was diferent kinds of networks
all I knew was about diferent frequencies used in diferent contries, for example before coming to Bolivia I bought a Galaxy Ace 2 in Portugal, unlocked. To my surprise when I got to Bolivia it didn't work with 3g networks... just crappy slow 2g internet.
So.. at what Moto X's should I look at? I have no idea which companies use GSM or CDMA. Here in Bolivia it's GSM. (I'm 99% sure, as I had to GSM fix the rom's I installed on my Razr M.. Sorry for still being such a newbie, this is all pretty new to me)
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Your Droid Razr M was likely a Verizon device (Any with the DROID in their name was due to Verizon licensing "Droid" from Lucas LTD). As such it was CDMA and LTE Band 13 (700MHz range). It also came with quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900) radio for global roaming. Not sure what "GSM FIX" you did, as Moto's web site says it also supports HSPA/UMTS on 850/900/1900/2100MHz.
The X supports the same, but adds support for faster HSPA+ on those same frequencies, and eventually will add LTE band 4 support with a future firmware update.
All Verizon LTE devices are SIM unlocked.
If you only got EDGE with the Razr M, you have a GSM carrier that uses other bands than the Verizon phones support. I'd look for the T-Mobile version of the X, or even the ATT over the Verizon version. From what I understand you can unlock the boot loader on the T-Mobile version. The ATT has a locked bootloader and is SIM locked too. I think the T-Mobile version is not SIM locked, but I could be wrong.
But without knowing what frequencies your carrier supports, its really hard to say.
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Sorry I explained myself wrong.
The Razr M worked fine out of the box. I had to do a GSM fix for some of the Roms I installed.
It was with the Ace II that I only had EDGE.
You said something super there! All LTE Verizon phones are SIM unlocked? Is that for sure? so if I get a Moto X from Verizon, it's gonna work here for sure
That's great news!
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Yes, their LTE phones are SIM unlocked. Its due to the rules around the 700mhz spectrum they got.
That being said, the latest update to my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 changed it to that I now have to manually enter the T-Mobile APN settings when I put my T-Mobile USA sim in it. With the MDK and ME7 roms, the came down automatically. I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Thank you, that'd be great help!
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...I'll have to try the X with the Tmo SIM in it if I get a chance later today to see if its manual or automatic.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Ok, I just tried... first some info... My Moto X is Stock 16gig from Verizon (not rooted, not a dev edition), with the latest OTA update Verizon pushed (that fixes camera). System Version: 139.15.1.ghost_verizon build 13.9.0Q2.x-116-MX-17-57-x-1. The phone is in "Global" mode, with global roaming settings enabled for all trips. The T-Mobile sim is from my Samsung Galaxy S3 T-Mobile USA (work device).
I powered off the X, removed my Verizon SIM, put in the T-Mo USA sim, and powered it up. The X notifies me "this sim is from an unknown provider." I got an Edge signal. I see T-Mobile on the lock screen. After a another power off/on, I get H+ using the T-Mobile SIM.
Data works - Tested via Chrome and visiting web sites. BB Messenger signs in as well.
SMS works - I sent an SMS from X to my Verizon iPhone 5s (other work phone), it was received fine on the iPhone and reported the T-Mobile phone number. Sent a SMS from my iPhone 5 to the T-Mo phone number, it was received fine on the X.
MMS works - Sent a picture taken on the X to my iP5s, and one from the my iP5s to the X. They were both sent/received just fine.
Calling works - Called my T-Mo USA number from my iP5s, and the X rang was able to answer and talk fine. Called iP5s number from the X, and call came in on my iP5s identified with my T-Mo USA number, was able to answer and talk fine.
All this works WITHOUT manually entering the APN settings on the X when the T-Mobile SIM is in there. But based on the VZW GS4, there is no guarantee the X will remain this way, and you may eventually have to manually enter your APN settings. The again, your wireless carrier may require you to manually enter the APN settings.. I don't know.
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Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually? this is Bolivia, there's no such thing as NOT entering the APN manually !! ahah =)
Wow that's super!
The Moto X is by far the best Android phone out there for me. I hate big phones... it's like a cancer on Android Flagships.
That's why I really like the Razr M, performance and small size (about the size of an iphone 5, for comparisson sake) and the Moto X aint that much bigger and comes with kickass OS from start.. I kinda had given up on owning one, now I can look into it again! =D
Thank you!
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Thank you. It behaves like my Razr M did, I get a warning but then it all works anyway!
So even if something changes in the future it would be that I have to enter the Apn manually?
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yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
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yes, I would think it should behave the same as the Razr M.
As for the future.. I do not expect Verizon to SIM lock (due to FCC rules), and the only change I've seen so far on my GS4 is now having to manually enter the APN settings... NOTE: now that I manually have to enter the APN settings on the GS4, sending/receiving MMS hasn't worked. So either I got a setting wrong, or something is missing. I've compared the APN settings between the X, Lumia 928 and GS4 when the T-Mo sim is in each, and they appear to be the same so I'm not sure why the GS4 doesn't work. But i you are manually entering your APN settings on the Razr M and its working, I'd expect the X to work no problem.
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SrPintas said:
I have another question. It's pretty hard to get a Moto X safely here in Bolivia. I'll have to buy from ebay, and not only there's a chance that it gets "lost" during transport (not frequent, but can happen) but also the fact that corruption is HIIIIIIIGHHHH here and the customs guys love to basically rob foreigns... I had to drop a big bill when I imported my Razr M to release it from customs office.
So, to avoid all that I thought of something, I have a collegue in faculty whose from Canada and he's going to Canada for Xmas. He could get a Moto X there for me and bring it over with him safely. Question is, are Moto X's in Canada GSM compatible? if so which ones etc, what should I look for and what to avoid?
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The Moto X is available in Canada only on Rogers and Fido and its the XT1058 version. While it has the same frequencies as the AT&T and a few others, it also allows you to unlock the bootloader via Moto's website.
Right now only the 16GB version is available in black or white.
A good comparison chart of all of the versions of the Moto X is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X#Variants
Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
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Have your friend buy a Rogers/Fido Moto X in Canada. They are all XT1058s, same as the AT&T model however the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be sim unlocked easily for 8 bucks. They are also completely unbranded, no provider markings on the case or in the firmware.
If your friend is lucky he can find a dealer to sell him one for $450.00 cdn, (about 440.00 USD)
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Oh that is kickass!
thanks a lot for all the input!
Is the sprint version of the phone globally unlocked as well?
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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gabo_e30 said:
Can I buy a Sprint moto x and use a GSM Sim card in Latin America?
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Edit: Most US carriers should sell them unlocked, confirmed for AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon. I've seen conflicting stories on Sprint. Verizon also may limit some other functionality like forwarding calls for Google Voice, but that's generally a US-only service. Republic Wireless may be locked as well.
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Got my unlocked AT&T Moto X from eBay ; works just perfect in the Netherlands, w/o any further modifications.
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Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
RobHands said:
Did you buy it already unlocked? I just bought mine on ebay, but its still new in box but bought off contract
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Yes, according to description on eBay 'unlocked AT&T model'. Package was evidently opened, also on pics, for unlocking, as stated, otherwise unused, everything in original packaging, state, even protection folie on the phone.
After inserting my Dutch sim card started up w/o any problems!
And bonus; let it shipped as 'used item' (matter of fact is; package opened), so hadn't bothered customs office (pretty money hungry here in the Netherlands) neither..

[Q] Moto X Global unlock help.

Hey all.
I ordered a moto X about 2 weeks ago, i got the unlocked Tmobile version that was on sale for 350$
anyway i live abroad and i was sure that i would be able to use the phone here (like the moto G) but i cant, it seems that the phone is ONLY unlocked for US carriers.
So my questions are:
1) is there an easy way for me to unlock it Globally for free? (Tmobile said they can do it but only from a store in the US).
2) I saw people can buy unlock codes, but my phone does not show that it is unlocked so i'm not sure if that will work..?
Any help would be very appreciated!
Tevie.
If you have the tmobile version then the phone is already sim/provider unlocked.
Which phone exactly did you get and what specific problem are you having?
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If you have the tmobile version then the phone is already sim/provider unlocked.
Which phone exactly did you get and what specific problem are you having?
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I got the moto x from moto maker (picked the unlocked T-Mobile version)
The problem is that its not unlocked for Sim abroad, only in the U.S . I wanted to know how I can get it to work with a Sim not from the U.S
TMO version is supposed to be unlocked for any carrier. How do you know that it is not the case? Did you try to put non-US SIM card and it failed?
Tevie said:
I got the moto x from moto maker (picked the unlocked T-Mobile version)
The problem is that its not unlocked for Sim abroad, only in the U.S . I wanted to know how I can get it to work with a Sim not from the U.S
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I know my friend in Belgium who ordered it and its working fine with his Belgium Sim. Try to put the SIM in and see how it goes. It should work.
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I know my friend in Belgium who ordered it and its working fine with his Belgium Sim. Try to put the SIM in and see how it goes. It should work.
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Thanks for the replay's.
I did put a local Sim in the phone and it could not register to a local networked (the same Sim worked in a different phone )
Note that it found the local networks just can't log to them.
Note 2 . TM told me that its locked for use abroad ...
It is 100% unlocked, there is no partial lock on the phone. If the phone can't register with your provider there is a different problem not related to sim locking.
I'm using my T-Mobile X in the Caribbean all fine with no hiccups or issues. Maybe it needs the APN.
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Moto X in Belgium
I bought the T-mobile version form Moto maker, and without a problem put a Base nano sim in it. Works fine. Strangely enough it shows 4G almost everywhere... Wonder if that is correct?
jan legein said:
I bought the T-mobile version form Moto maker, and without a problem put a Base nano sim in it. Works fine. Strangely enough it shows 4G almost everywhere... Wonder if that is correct?
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Does it jsut show the 4G symbol or the 4G with the small LTE next to it? If you have HSPA service, you will see 4G.
4G it shows, which in Belgium is HSPA+
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Tmobile Moto X = Pure Edition?

Just want to make sure I am correct in my thinking here. I am on ATT. Can I go buy a Tmobile Moto X and pop an ATT micro sim in and have a pure edition phone? Is it that easy? Trying to avoid the shipping delays by picking one up in town.
There is no MotoX for sale in a Tmobile store. You have to order from motomaker to get one.
I'm not a 100%, but I think you can except for the SIM card. The Moto X requires a "nano" SIM (it's even smaller than the micro sim). You'll need to get a new nano sim from ATT. Additionally, the PURE edition doesn't seem to have all the LTE radio bands that the ATT version has. I'm not sure if that's going to cause any problems, although the PURE edition is eventually supposed to get an OTA update that will add additional LTE radio bands.
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Just want to make sure I am correct in my thinking here. I am on ATT. Can I go buy a Tmobile Moto X and pop an ATT micro sim in and have a pure edition phone? Is it that easy? Trying to avoid the shipping delays by picking one up in town.
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There is no MotoX for sale in a Tmobile store. You have to order from motomaker to get one.
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Correct, TMO does not sell the device in store and there is a planned OTA to enable all radio bands that the AT&T version has. Sorry, no way to avoid motomaker shipping times if you want a sim unlocked, non-carrier molested version
Which means no subsidized price either?
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Which means no subsidized price either?
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That's correct.
Yes, but it appears ATT are having troubles. If you already have ATT and a 4g LTE phone, then you just need to get a nano-sim with your old apportioning. The problem appears to be that ATT hasn't put the pure version in their database as recognized 4G phones. They work fine, but you can't set up a new account on one without tricking the system. The boards over at Motorola are talking about this.

Q: Pure Edition with VZW SIM card:

When the 1st Gen Moto X came out I was stationed in Germany but thanks to the fact that it was quad band it would work on all European networks (and it worked on the networks I was able to test it on). And the 1st Gen Moto X from VZW wasn't even region unlocked.
The Pure Edition covers all the same frequencies and bands that VZW covers except Band 13 which is exclusive to Verizon. As a junior/budding developer and cell phone junkie I would really love the opportunity to play with a bootloader unlocked edition to truly take advantage of all the possibilities of the phone.
Has anyone tried this yet?
Does anyone live in the RVA area, own a Pure Edition Moto X and be willing to try this with my SIM card?
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When the 1st Gen Moto X came out I was stationed in Germany but thanks to the fact that it was quad band it would work on all European networks (and it worked on the networks I was able to test it on). And the 1st Gen Moto X from VZW wasn't even region unlocked.
The Pure Edition covers all the same frequencies and bands that VZW covers except Band 13 which is exclusive to Verizon. As a junior/budding developer and cell phone junkie I would really love the opportunity to play with a bootloader unlocked edition to truly take advantage of all the possibilities of the phone.
Has anyone tried this yet?
Does anyone live in the RVA area, own a Pure Edition Moto X and be willing to try this with my SIM card?
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Verizon controls which phones can be activated on their network. I don't think they will let you activate a Pure Edition phone.
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Verizon controls which phones can be activated on their network. I don't think they will let you activate a Pure Edition phone.
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Additionally, the Pure Edition doesn't have a compatible CDMA radio, so you wouldn't be able to make phone calls.
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Additionally, the Pure Edition doesn't have a compatible CDMA radio, so you wouldn't be able to make phone calls.
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In another month or 2, you'll be able to make phone calls on VoLTE.
There is a VZW thread in the General section - and a poster there has 2 phones - VZW and Pure - I asked him to try the active VZW sim in the Pure phone and give us a report. I read a report elsewhere of someone who used a VZW sim in a non-VZW iphone 6 and was able to use data, and make phone calls on VoLTE (iPhone already has VoLTE on VZW).
For what it is worth - VZW has historically only controlled what phones are activated on their CDMA network. The Nexus 7 2013 LTE was delayed on the VZW network because the network couldn't activate the sim because the N7 didn't have CDMA, it was LTE only. But while VZW was sorting that out, you could take an active VZW sim and put it in the N7 and it worked fine on the LTE bands. VZW did finally update their network, and the N7 was able to activate a sim card on VZW LTE. I don't know what effect that will have on VZW being able to regulate LTE devices - but given the results of the Iphone 6 I described above, I suspect that VZW still is unable to regulate an LTE device once a VZW sim is active.
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In another month or 2, you'll be able to make phone calls on VoLTE. .
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Wouldn't this only be possible with a firmware update? So if the Pure Edition software doesn't support it, then no phone calls for you.
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Wouldn't this only be possible with a firmware update? So if the Pure Edition software doesn't support it, then no phone calls for you.
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Yes, I think that would be right. Would probably be pretty easy for someone who knew what they were doing to port the VoLTE firmware from a VZW phone to a Pure phone - that's the great thing about being able to root/bootloader unlock, right
In the other General thread, the guy with both phones just said that he couldn't get data to work with a vzw sim in a Pure phone - so the question may be moot. Don't know if it is incompatibility with the particular LTE band where he is, or bad APN settings, or if VZW really is able to restrict their LTE network to a particular class of device (the fact the the iPhone can do it makes be doubt the restriction answer).
jasoraso said:
Yes, I think that would be right. Would probably be pretty easy for someone who knew what they were doing to port the VoLTE firmware from a VZW phone to a Pure phone - that's the great thing about being able to root/bootloader unlock, right
In the other General thread, the guy with both phones just said that he couldn't get data to work with a vzw sim in a Pure phone - so the question may be moot. Don't know if it is incompatibility with the particular LTE band where he is, or bad APN settings, or if VZW really is able to restrict their LTE network to a particular class of device (the fact the the iPhone can do it makes be doubt the restriction answer).
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Thank you for the information, I don't know how I overlooked that thread.
My plan was to take my existing activated VZW SIM in my 1st Gen X and drop it into the 2nd Gen X, as long as the SIM is active I am good to go. But if he is confirming that the Pure Edition does not support a VZW SIM then like you said it is moot. The next thing to wait for is the VoLTE network to open up.
Additional thoughts: What about the Qualcomm software 'fix' to open up additional bands?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
I think once the additional bands are opened on the Pure edition, it may work. For now, only 2 of the 5 VZW bands are supported on the Pure edition. Pretty bad odds to have coverage.
Kenmichi said:
Thank you for the information, I don't know how I overlooked that thread.
My plan was to take my existing activated VZW SIM in my 1st Gen X and drop it into the 2nd Gen X, as long as the SIM is active I am good to go. But if he is confirming that the Pure Edition does not support a VZW SIM then like you said it is moot. The next thing to wait for is the VoLTE network to open up.
Additional thoughts: What about the Qualcomm software 'fix' to open up additional bands?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...ad-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
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Any update? Would love to update my 2013 Moto X and simply swap SIM to keep unlimited data

Dual SIM Version?

I currently on T-Mobile and have a dual SIM Samsung S8+. I am thinking for going to change my service to Google Fi as I travel overseas. Google Fi has a great price for Data Roaming which is charged the same as at home. The issue is that I need a dual SIM phone. I do not like to swap my SIM cards as I almost lost one while changing. Currently Google Fi list LG V35 as a Google Fi phone. I am wondering if anyone here is using LG V40 on Google Fi. I noticed on Gsmarena that LG V40 has a dual SIM version. I am thinking of getting one and use it on Google Fi.
BTW. I do know that my S8+ can work on Google Fi but it would not have the Google VPN and network switching functions on Google Fi.
Waiting for the same.... dual sim version of V40 was mentioned few times here and there but nothing official yet!
I believe every variant is a dual-sim variant. The T-Mobile variant I purchased is working just fine with T-Mobile in the primary slot and Sprint in the secondary.
Granted, I had to buy it outright and call in for an unlock after 40 days.
IMEI Question
The issue is that I am on T-Mobile and would like to switch to Google Fi. I sure would like to get an unlock version if all versions are Dual SIM. Having a combo SIM slot does not mean it is dual SIM. Does your T-Mobile version has 2 IMEIs? Are you using your T-Mobile version with T-Mobile and Sprint services or using Google Fi service?
Paradoxumical said:
I believe every variant is a dual-sim variant. The T-Mobile variant I purchased is working just fine with T-Mobile in the primary slot and Sprint in the secondary.
Granted, I had to buy it outright and call in for an unlock after 40 days.
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So your T-mobile LG V40 support dual sims!?
That would be quite interesting!
Paradoxumical said:
I believe every variant is a dual-sim variant. The T-Mobile variant I purchased is working just fine with T-Mobile in the primary slot and Sprint in the secondary.
Granted, I had to buy it outright and call in for an unlock after 40 days.
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I'd really love to see a screenshot. All signs point to the US version being single-sim.
duraaraa said:
I'd really love to see a screenshot. All signs point to the US version being single-sim.
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Yeah my Sprint Variant is Single Sim, and that I'm aware of Sprint won't activate a T-Mobile phone let alone a GSM phone until they are officially one company...
Ainz_Ooal_Gown said:
Yeah my Sprint Variant is Single Sim, and that I'm aware of Sprint won't activate a T-Mobile phone let alone a GSM phone until they are officially one company...
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Iphone XS in the States has only one SIM but due to a built-in eSIM, it could have 2 lines on that phone. Just wishful thinking that we could do the same on LG. I wonder if LG V40 would support eSIM?
i was reading somewere...there is active dual sim with dedicated memory card slot (triple slot 2 for sim & 1 for mmc)...is it true...???
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Hi,
Do you think that the V40 dualsim version could be rooted?
From my knowledge the G family with dual sim option could not be rooted, V30 could be rooted
Any confirmation?
Thnaks for your help
jay_ind said:
i was reading somewere...there is active dual sim with dedicated memory card slot (triple slot 2 for sim & 1 for mmc)...is it true...???
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The one that's just released in Europe has got exactly that, dual SIM + hybrid SD card slot. I'm confirming that because I had the V40 in my hand yesterday and the tray inside it is one of those dual SIM SD card hybrid ones.
It's so hard to find dual-sim info on this LG V40. Does the V405QA7 (US Unlocked) and/or V405TAB (T-Mobile) have dual-sim dual standby?
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Paradoxumical said:
I believe every variant is a dual-sim variant. The T-Mobile variant I purchased is working just fine with T-Mobile in the primary slot and Sprint in the secondary.
Granted, I had to buy it outright and call in for an unlock after 40 days.
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Can you tell us the exact tmobile model that you have? I am looking to get a dual-sim too. Thank you.
韩国版,香港版都是双卡版本
wangmengjing said:
韩国版,香港版都是双卡版本
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Thanks for the info. 謝謝.

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