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Running stock rooted 4.3 on Galaxy S4. Generally I would debloat just about all the Samsung apps other than a few I actually use - - SMemo, Svoice, etc. Now, I'm not sure what I can delete without 'breaking' gear features. I don't use any of the Samsung media sharing stuff, but wonder if the Gear is using any of this in some way to communicate with my phone to control media player, etc.
Any hints or tips? Is there a developer resource that shows a list of dependencies for certain Gear functions?
Ideally, it would be great to create a de-bloat script with the Gear specifically in mind. I've done some simple scripting so I might be able to do this, but I've no idea how to go about finding what is safe to remove, and trial-and-error would take a hella long time.
Thoughts, suggestions?
I would also like to know the same thing when I get my gear for Christmas
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gearmanagerstub
accuweather
mmappframework
samsungapps
Samsungmusic
weatherwidgetdaemon
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I am the proud owner of the ultimate geek accessory, the gear. I also have a totally stock att note 3. Because of this, for now I want to leave the gear unrooted. So which apps do you recommend? I know some require data so they are not practical just yet. What apps do you use? What games? I tried candy crush (cute) and mouse. I would love to listen to ebook in the car.....
Thanks for any recommendations!
if the gear is unrooted, then aren't your only options what's available in the Samsung store inside the gear manager app?
I can still side load with abd
I've been searching everywhere trying to find a way to use a keyboard to respond to messages. I sideloaded one but without null it's pointless. There has to be a way though.. For example voice memos and pictures can be sent to the device, and you can reply to sms with preset responses so why wouldn't it be possible for the gear to communicate typed responses to the sms app over it's default connection. I think the most realistic solution would be a 3rd party sms app for the phone that has a companion app for the gear, then a sideloaded keyboard, I have a feeling the keyboard would be the main issue (development-wise), but I'm holding out hope. If only I were a developer. In the meantime it's plenty useful to me.. Between the universal notifications, music control, weather, schedule & caller-ID & dialer I'm content for now. If I had paid $300 for it I might be a little less satisfied, but overall it's great fun for gadget people.
Using "sources other than Samsung Apps"
I was wondering about this too. There's an option in Gear Manager you can check that allows you to install apps from "sources other than Samsung Apps". I have no idea how to actually install other apps, or if there are any other apps I can install on the device from a non-Samsung source. Any thoughts?
Okay, side loading using a db and totally stock: subway surfers, candy crush, mouse, 100 floors (a little hard); blast monkeys (looks a little weird), building tower
Still trying out others
I was looking around for a way to use the gear VR with Cardboard apps and all I could find was to just not insert the usb all the way or tuck it under the micro usb plug, I knew there had to be a better way. There is. With this easy trick you can use all the Cardboard apps and watch SBS 3D using a player like BS player easy.
Here's how to use the Gear VR outside of the native Oculus app, and it's soooo easy. Note: You'll need to be rooted for this to work.
1. download the App Quarantine app from the play store and install it.
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Bam, that's it. When you want to use a Cardboard app just click the widget, then lock icon, and then load the Cardboard app you want to use before inserting the phone into the headset. If you want to watch a SBS 3D movie in BS player just load it, pinch to zoom out a bit (fiddle with this to get it to your liking), click play and put on the headset and you're set. With a BT game controller you can even control the the playback.
When you're ready to go back to the Gear, just click the widget again and then the unlock icon. So simple...
If this helped give me a thanks below! Have fun, this headset rocks!!!!
Edit: Just to clarify, this will only work with Cardboard apps that don't require the magnetic clicker. However, I have found if you have a high power neodymium magnet laying around you can just swipe it by the end of the headset (kind of quickly) and it will trigger the clicker. Kinda lame for shooter games, but it's a workaround...
Nice. I'm going to try it, before Google or Samsung fives it
It also works to just put the phone in below the microusb plug - it fits fine..
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It also works to just put the phone in below the microusb plug - it fits fine..
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I know, mentioned that in the first paragraph. Just don't think it's a good idea to put the unesacerry strain on the USB connector and have a less than secure fit (don't want the phone crashing to the floor). This only takes 2 seconds to do and allows for a secure docking of the phone.
The Note will need this connectivity if 3rd party devs are going to use the tracking data from the headset in their apps. Way lower latency than using the phone's sensors...
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I was looking around for a way to use the gear VR with Cardboard apps and all I could find was to just not insert the usb all the way or tuck it under the micro usb plug, I knew there had to be a better way. There is. With this easy trick you can use all the Cardboard apps and watch SBS 3D using a player like BS player easy.
Here's how to use the Gear VR outside of the native Oculus app, and it's soooo easy.
1. download the App Quarantine app from the play store and install it.
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Bam, that's it. When you want to use a Cardboard app just click the widget, then lock icon, and then load the Cardboard app you want to use before inserting the phone into the headset. If you want to watch a SBS 3D movie in BS player just load it, pinch to zoom out a bit (fiddle with this to get it to your liking), click play and put on the headset and you're set. With a BT game controller you can even control the the playback.
When you're ready to go back to the Gear, just click the widget again and then the unlock icon. So simple...
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Nice idea but you do need root for that app right? Can the Note 4 be already rooted without tripping the Knox counter?
You do need to be rooted. Haven't seen a way to root without tripping Knox, yet...
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Where is this? cant find it in list of apps to freeze.
charlie
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You do need to be rooted. Haven't seen a way to root without tripping Knox, yet...
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Might need to point that out in a revision, since that means this helps only about 5% of current N4 owners. Boo to no root!
I would like to use my other video players since the player built in does not cover all codecs or AC3.
It appears you must already have made a connection to the Gear VR in order to have the Gear VR Service? I too, cannot see this service anywhere. I have a Exynos model Note 4 (N910U) and it is my understanding that the Exynos models are not yet compatible with the VR. I've been trying to find the service used to auto launch whatever it is the VR auto launches to try and disable that with DisableService but have yet to find this. Any ideas?
callif said:
2. Create a widget and select the App Quarantine widget. Select the "Gear VR Service" as the app to freeze/defrost.
Where is this? cant find it in list of apps to freeze.
charlie
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Try rebooting your phone and looking for the Gear VR service again. If you have the Gear installed it should be there.
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It appears you must already have made a connection to the Gear VR in order to have the Gear VR Service? I too, cannot see this service anywhere. I have a Exynos model Note 4 (N910U) and it is my understanding that the Exynos models are not yet compatible with the VR. I've been trying to find the service used to auto launch whatever it is the VR auto launches to try and disable that with DisableService but have yet to find this. Any ideas?
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My guess is that you'll have had to make a connection at least once and will definitely need to have installed the Gear apps first. I would install the gear, run through the setup, reboot, put the phone into the gear and then remove it, install the App Quarantine app and then try it. Should work.
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My guess is that you'll have had to make a connection at least once and will definitely need to have installed the Gear apps first. I would install the gear, run through the setup, reboot, put the phone into the gear and then remove it, install the App Quarantine app and then try it. Should work.
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This won't work for me or anyone who cannot make that initial connection: we'll have to find another way or wait until the Gear VR supports the Exynos Note 4s. Right now, the N910U will not work with Gear VR until it receives a firmware update supporting it. I received confirmation directly from Samsung about this yet no details as to when the Exynos models will receive support. Way to go, Samsung, for making this perfectly clear to those looking to buy the Gear VR.
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This won't work for me or anyone who cannot make that initial connection: we'll have to find another way or wait until the Gear VR supports the Exynos Note 4s. Right now, the N910U will not work with Gear VR until it receives a firmware update supporting it. I received confirmation directly from Samsung about this yet no details as to when the Exynos models will receive support. Way to go, Samsung, for making this perfectly clear to those looking to buy the Gear VR.
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I would think if the gear app launches when you attach it (even if only to notify you it's not compatible) there has to be a service running. Should be able to freeze it and attach the Gear without the app launching...
If you have no need for the Gear apps just yet (until you can update your phone), just use Titanium backup and freeze any app you see related to the Gear VR and you should be able to attach it to the phone without anything happening. The touchpad should also be recognized as a mouse and volume and back buttons should also work.
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I would think if the gear app launches when you attach it (even if only to notify you it's not compatible) there has to be a service running. Should be able to freeze it and attach the Gear without the app launching...
If you have no need for the Gear apps just yet (until you can update your phone), just use Titanium backup and freeze any app you see related to the Gear VR and you should be able to attach it to the phone without anything happening. The touchpad should also be recognized as a mouse and volume and back buttons should also work.
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You're not understanding though... the Exynos models are not compatible with Gear VR, period. When you plug them in you get a black screen and that's it. Nothing gets launched, installed, etc. The Gear VR service is not present until you make that first connection and get the software. I guess the software resides on the Gear VR itself and is pushed to the Note 4? I don't know exactly how it works. I just know it won't work
I also don't know if it's all Exynos models but I know for sure it's not compatible with N910U.
I have an Exynos version and I was able to successfully stop the gear vr service.
Download an app called Disable Service and you should see the Gear VR Service there. Just force it to stop.
Alternatively, you can go into Settings, Applications Manager and Force it to Stop from there.
Once Stoped, it should work.
One thing I noticed though, was that Im having difficulties finding good convergence with other apps. I dont know whether this is due to my large IPD (73) or due to the fact that these apps are not optimized for the Gear VR.
Theres cool app for cinema called Cmoar VR cinema, but I was unable to find proper focus with this app.
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I have an Exynos version and I was able to successfully stop the gear vr service.
Download an app called Disable Service and you should see the Gear VR Service there. Just force it to stop.
Alternatively, you can go into Settings, Applications Manager and Force it to Stop from there.
Once Stoped, it should work.
One thing I noticed though, was that Im having difficulties finding good convergence with other apps. I dont know whether this is due to my large IPD (73) or due to the fact that these apps are not optimized for the Gear VR.
Theres cool app for cinema called Cmoar VR cinema, but I was unable to find proper focus with this app.
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And what's your baseband? ANK5? ANK7? I'm N910U (Hong Kong) ANJ5 and the Gear VR service does not exist. We have yet to receive the firmware update making this model compatible with Gear VR.
hum... didnt know that.
My baseband is NK5.
IF I disable the service, I can connect to the usb no problem.
lucianolsp said:
hum... didnt know that.
My baseband is NK5.
IF I disable the service, I can connect to the usb no problem.
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I'm tempted to try Taiwan ANK7. I've never done that before though... that should work right? Both models are N910U.
I still can't get the widget to show the vr services, when I go direct to the app I see the VR services just fine ... Damn you, tricky VR
just got my gear vr that i ordered from the states but can not get it setup, i assume i need the gear vr manager apk. when i put my phone in it says on the display to take the phone out and install the software and it does but then says I need to update my phone could someone post the apk and I will see what happens thanks.
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just got my gear vr that i ordered from the states but can not get it setup, i assume i need the gear vr manager apk. when i put my phone in it says on the display to take the phone out and install the software and it does but then says I need to update my phone could someone post the apk and I will see what happens thanks.
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its not an apk, i tried the apk still didnt work you need the newer firmware, im with telus. obviously will need root to do this.
Downlaod apk should work. https://www.dropbox.com/s/2cmbkeyamj...dStub.apk?dl=0
install ael kernel v5, clear cache dalvik, reboot
download apk from above link
After downloading apk you wont see that app, I used Nova, created a shortcut, chose activities, then vrsetupwizardstub, then samsung gear vr, then hit the created shortcut and done. or you can download quick short cut maker from the play store
then when you install phone into gear vr the first time everything should be golden!
Was going to try and avoid having to root but I don't have much patience to wait for lollipop and don't want $200 collecting dust so I will try this. Thanks
*you link is not working though*
Can you also link me to the thread for that kernel thanks
Alight let's try again.
Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...pment/30-november-2014-n4-ael-kernel-t2961240
Vr setup apk https://mega.co.nz/#!7xd2xDob!uqqCiYYpTaDIoenAK4H-cBTineKRG4xiTp-ZlVb6P98
Dk 3.0 rom in t-mobile android dev forum
1. Flash rom first
2. Flash kernel right after do not boot after flashing the rom! or it will bootloop. If you do then boot into recovery and flash kernel
3. After downloading apk you wont see tha app, I used Nova, created a shortcut, chose activities, then vrsetupwizardstub, then samsung gear vr, then hit the created shortcut and done. or you can download quick short cut maker from the play store
then when you install phone into gear vr the first time everything should be golden!
Cant I use the kernel with just the stock bell mobility rom one rooted?
Mine wouldn't boot with the stock Telus kernel. Plus ael is really nice. Try it if works great if not flash ael.
Flashed all on top of my bell stock rom and it worked, ran the vr setup and still didn't work then realized that it is most likely the phone software/build that needs to be a newer version. Just Flashed dk 3 with ael kernel and will try setup and report back.
I have cm12 on my note the unofficial version is there anything I can do to make the setup.work on this rom
i flashed firekat with the ael kernel and when i start up the vrsetup wizard it still tells me my phone needs to be upgraded, what am i doing wrong?
edit: figured it out, if you are installing firekat you have to install the version 7 regular version not the canadian one, then flash AEL on top and it works.
still wondering if its possible though to get this going on AOSP.
VR app with Google Cardboard
Hi friends! One question... is posible to launch VR app without Samsung Gear VR? For example to use Google Cardboard with my Note 4? haha
jdnichollsc said:
Hi friends! One question... is posible to launch VR app without Samsung Gear VR? For example to use Google Cardboard with my Note 4? haha
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I would like to know this.I am trying to do this,but i didn t find way anywhere
Anyone? I'm trying to do the same thing. Didn't know that it's an exclusive app that is only enabled with the Gear VR.
ThaiM said:
Anyone? I'm trying to do the same thing. Didn't know that it's an exclusive app that is only enabled with the Gear VR.
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I've tried this several times to see if i can get Oculus Home to run properly with a Google Cardboard. Furthest I can tell you I got was loading up developer mode in Gear VR service to run downloaded apps from the Oculus store. Depending on what kernel and version of lollipop you're running you may run into some odd screen errors. However, low persistence mode should change your screen display to a bright flickering when developer mode is enabled. After loading up a downloaded app/game from oculus within Gear VR service you won't be able to look around because the tracking data is specific to enhancements made by the Gear VR HMD.
Long story short, you could theoretically play bluetooth controller enabled games. You wouldn't have any headtracking
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I've tried this several times to see if i can get Oculus Home to run properly with a Google Cardboard. Furthest I can tell you I got was loading up developer mode in Gear VR service to run downloaded apps from the Oculus store. Depending on what kernel and version of lollipop you're running you may run into some odd screen errors. However, low persistence mode should change your screen display to a bright flickering when developer mode is enabled. After loading up a downloaded app/game from oculus within Gear VR service you won't be able to look around because the tracking data is specific to enhancements made by the Gear VR HMD.
Long story short, you could theoretically play bluetooth controller enabled games. You wouldn't have any headtracking
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Yep. I recently figured that out. It uses the headtracking in the Gear VR headset. I originally thought it was just a fancy shell. Apparently now. I wish there was a mod to be able to use the Note 4's gyros. But there are mods out there where people are creating headtracking circuit boards. But that seems out of my league.
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Yep. I recently figured that out. It uses the headtracking in the Gear VR headset. I originally thought it was just a fancy shell. Apparently now. I wish there was a mod to be able to use the Note 4's gyros. But there are mods out there where people are creating headtracking circuit boards. But that seems out of my league.
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Yea... I'd say wait for Rift CV1 if you got a good computer. Gear VR is just a novelty piece tbh. You can only use it in short bursts of time until it overheats. I'd say an hour at max without a fan blowing into your face. Don't get me wrong though, it's worth the $99USD price tag to experience and share with family and friends.
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I would like to know this.I am trying to do this,but i didn t find way anywhere
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will never work. Not fully. Its optimzed for the Gear VR headset depending on the display size as well.
not sure anybody still cares but i went to a friends house in VT a few weeks back, got a Gear VR delivered to his place by amazon.com, brought it back home (canada) and I have an american VPN and had no issues at all to set it up, I have access to any and all US only content such as MilkVR. It seems, unlike the playstore, the content is geo-restricted and doesnt take into account the billing info on your samsung account. If anybody has issues, try a free VPN, or rent one for a month.
Is anyone still looking/having issues with the Gear VR on Note 4 in canada using the Arcadia lollipop 5.1.1 Rom by Emporia.
My headset worked, asked me (in a vr environment) to remove the headset and install the necessary apps. once complete, it had me re-insert my phone into the headset, only to display a single image of the welcome screen and then hang on the health and safety warning, (that was also in 2d and only viewable in its entirety without the headset on.
if I remove the phone, within a brief second it shows "calibrating" before it realizes it has been disconnected. and the oculus software shuts down.
I appreciate any help anyone could provide, I too hate the idea of the money having been wasted on something that no longer works at all.
After 2 weeks of attempts to make it work, after several emails sent to the PoliceDeveloper team, here is my conclusion. This product is malicious or doesn't work.
Notice: I do not work for Samsung nor I've ever worked for PoliceDeveloper. I have no interest at all posting this except warning the next users. I'm simply a guy a bit pissed off by Samsung bloatwares.
Maybe my experience could bring some additional answers to a certain post reported on reddit and named: package_disabler_question.
This app is weird for several reasons explained below:
The developer team doesn't support you. The process is well documented nowhere, even in their emails, really absolutely nowhere. Apparently it doesn't work and when you show them the proof that you are dealing with an installation issue, they don't dare to reply, they simply ignore you or reply with an automated template. Truly disrespectful when you trusted them buying the app on the store.
Their website seems to refer to wrong versions only (based from my own experience). From the Google store, versions sometime work, sometime they doesn't. It was mentioned somewhere (app itself or their website) that you have to install a "PDP engine". When it's done, it still doesn't work, you write to the team and at that moment they state by email you don't need to use it anymore. So why is there a PDP engine to install at the very begining?? And the strangest thing is you don't know at all which tool is doing what, because nothing is explained anywhere.
The tool needs an internet connection, but you don't know what is it for? You guess, seeing what happens on your screen, that Knox validate the license. But is it even a genuine popup? I asked to the team what was this connection requirement for. Strange, after this email, silence from the team until the date I'm sharing my experience here.
Now if it was only about some painful installation and comunication with the dev team, I would only rank it with 3 or 4 stars, complimenting them for the great work. But there is much annoying, the tool maybe does not do what it pretends to do. When you achieve to install it and make it work after several emails, you want to disable some packages, they become indeed displayed in a disabled app list within PackageDisabler, good! But when you check the Android built-in task manager, nothing is in the Android disabled app list. I tried to run one of the recently disabled package and the app can't start. So does it do the job or does it make you think it does... I'm not an Android specialits so I simply asked about this to the team, not a single answer.
They state Samsung is trying to block their app. They just explain that maybe in the purpose to work under the radar sending you an apk by email, and of course you have to give Admin permission to that app. So is it even true Samsung is fighting them? And if it was true, why? You will tell me because they want to protect their juicy bloatware apps. Based on my experience, I'm begining to think maybe Samsung simply tries to protect their platform end users from that app...
I asked for a reimbursement. Yes even for 2$, it doesn't work on my Galaxy S9 so help me or give me my money back. No answer from PoliceDeveloper...
So I let you make your own judgement about all of these.
In my opinion, when you buy an app and ask for what the app needs/does, or simply why it seems not to do what the developer claims, you should get your answers. Otherwise there is something sleazy.
Note: Galaxy S9 Duos - Exynos here...
No problems here. I've been using it for some time and the only problem I've ever had was a minor one that was fixed with a new update.
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No problems here. I've been using it for some time and the only problem I've ever had was a minor one that was fixed with a new update.
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May I know which phone you are using?
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May I know which phone you are using?
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S9, US Snapdragon
Been using on my s9 exynos for 2 months now. Perfect!
I actually bought package disabler pro from the play store couple days ago (s9) and it has worked fine. I found it actually helpful on reading details on apps installed. Giving it admin permission does bother me, but its permanent.
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I actually bought package disabler pro from the play store couple days ago (s9) and it has worked fine. I found it actually helpful on reading details on apps installed. Giving it admin permission does bother me, but its permanent.
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I would guess that for it to interact with other apps or system services it would need admin.
Works fine here on exynos s9 after update. Had bought the original app and they gave me a voucher for the new one.
It works for me but it does look hacky. It acts as a device administrator, like what a corporation might give you as a condition of using the LAN. It can not modify or uninstall apps but it can refuse their use. I would have returned my S9+ if not for this app. Samsung ads were constantly popping up even after two days of trying to get rid of them. The phone was unusable until the bloat was disabled.
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It works for me but it does look hacky. It acts as a device administrator, like what a corporation might give you as a condition of using the LAN. It can not modify or uninstall apps but it can refuse their use. I would have returned my S9+ if not for this app. Samsung ads were constantly popping up even after two days of trying to get rid of them. The phone was unusable until the bloat was disabled.
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It's just a UI for the adb uninstall commands, but backs them up so you can restore them, even the uninstall adb commands don't really uninstall them, you need root for that
working just fine for me, responsive developer (email them and give me the serial number from previous apps.), and no malicious problem here. all green
What apps are recommended to uninstall?
I'm checking now and I can hardly believe how much crap came with this phone. No wonder I couldn't get it to work before. Essentially, I disabled anything that was:
- Running in the background or using data even though I don't use it
- Popping up advertisements (all Samsung apps)
- Location spyware like weather apps and dynamic keyguards
- Bixby everything
- No chance of being needed (this will vary greatly by person)
Briefing, Yelp, Knox Enrollment Service, Galaxy Essentials Service, Galaxy Essentials Widget, Samsung Keyboard, Weather, Samsung Internet, Samsung Billing, SystemUIBixby, Samsung+, Secure your stuff, Secure Folder, Sports, Finance, Bixy Vision, Samsung Themes, Samsung Pay Framework, Samsung Cloud, Autofill with Samsung Pass, Samsung Pass, Samsung Experience Service, Keyguard Wallpaper Updator, Gear VR Service, Game Tools, Game Launcher, Find My Mobile, Secure Wi-Fi, Email, SmartThings, BixyVision Framework, Voice wake-up, Samsung voice input, Bixby Service, Bixby Global Action, Bixby Voice Stub, Bixy Voice, Smart Things, com.samsung.android.app.watch.managerstub, Bixby Home, AirCommandManager, Samsung account, KnoxVpnPacProcessor, Google VR Services, Google, Gmail, Facebook App Installer, Facebook Services, Facebook App Manager, Game Optimizing Service, Dictionary, CNN for Edge Panel
To the op: it needs internet for two reasons. To connect with knox servers to allow the app to do what it does, that's Samsung's requirement. And to verify the license for the actual app, to prevent piracy.
And for why it's not working... You didn't really describe what's happening, so we can't help you... But i mean, a lot of people have a great experience with PDP for samsung devices... I can only assume its user error... Maybe you refuse to Grant it permissions, have a device that's restricted with knox by your employer, or you're rooted (or were)...
Pretty good list.
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...Knox Enrollment Service, Samsung Experience Service, Google
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Kinda surprised it still worked after partially disabling the service that makes it possible (knox)... No doubt you're getting some extra cpu drain from the errors that's causing, run a log cat, guarantee you've got a lot errors happening.
And for the Samsung Experience Service, you must be using a third party launcher, because that's essentially touchwiz.
As for Google, don't quite see the benefit of disabling that. It's where google assistant is, and hardly does anything at all in the background.
Otherwise, great list.
Tip for everyone, after disabling apps, run a logcat (google "adb log cat" or download the cat log app) and just look for the words "error", "warning", "failed, "doesn't exist", and "found"... The more time you see any of those, more than likely that means more resources wasted because of missing packages. (Services call on other services, and they tend to cause tantrums when they don't get a response)... Probably a good idea to also do it before disabling anything, to establish a baseline.
I disabled the annoying app that kept asking me to sign up for Knox services. I don't think there's any means to disable Knox itself since it's part of the bootloader. There are plenty of errors spewing in logcat but they all appear to be sloppy code rather than any specific problem.
Nova Launcher Prime replaces Samsung Experience.
Google Search is disabled because I'm not using the search bar and it seems to pre-fetch a LOT in the background. I'm not a fan of Google cross-linking everything in inappropriate ways so I'm not using their apps.
MailDroid Pro replaces Email and GMail.
I noticed that Google now spams your phone's GMail account asking you to use Google apps. There's no opt-out, of course.
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To the op: it needs internet for two reasons. To connect with knox servers to allow the app to do what it does, that's Samsung's requirement. And to verify the license for the actual app, to prevent piracy.
And for why it's not working... You didn't really describe what's happening, so we can't help you... But i mean, a lot of people have a great experience with PDP for samsung devices... I can only assume its user error... Maybe you refuse to Grant it permissions, have a device that's restricted with knox by your employer, or you're rooted (or were)...
Pretty good list.
Kinda surprised it still worked after partially disabling the service that makes it possible (knox)... No doubt you're getting some extra cpu drain from the errors that's causing, run a log cat, guarantee you've got a lot errors happening.
And for the Samsung Experience Service, you must be using a third party launcher, because that's essentially touchwiz.
As for Google, don't quite see the benefit of disabling that. It's where google assistant is, and hardly does anything at all in the background.
Otherwise, great list.
Tip for everyone, after disabling apps, run a logcat (google "adb log cat" or download the cat log app) and just look for the words "error", "warning", "failed, "doesn't exist", and "found"... The more time you see any of those, more than likely that means more resources wasted because of missing packages. (Services call on other services, and they tend to cause tantrums when they don't get a response)... Probably a good idea to also do it before disabling anything, to establish a baseline.
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Any diference with AdHell 3 when disabling the apps? I'm using AdHell (is free), but I'd like to know if the uninstallation performed by PD is deeper.
Shaglok said:
Any diference with AdHell 3 when disabling the apps? I'm using AdHell (is free), but I'd like to know if the uninstallation performed by PD is deeper.
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Adhell 3 uses KNOX, Package Disabler Pro uses ADB
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Adhell 3 uses KNOX, Package Disabler Pro uses ADB
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Thanks, but sorry for the (surely silly) question. The result is the same? I mean, disabling via ADB is like disabling via Knox? Or one method is better than other?
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Shaglok said:
Thanks, but sorry for the (surely silly) question. The result is the same? I mean, disabling via ADB is like disabling via Knox? Or one method is better than other?
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Different methods, same result
*Detection* said:
Adhell 3 uses KNOX, Package Disabler Pro uses ADB
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Package Disabler pro on samsung devices also uses Knox, it uses adb for non-samsung devices.
kevinmcmurtrie said:
Nova Launcher Prime replaces Samsung Experience.
Google Search is disabled because I'm not using the search bar and it seems to pre-fetch a LOT in the background. I'm not a fan of Google cross-linking everything in inappropriate ways so I'm not using their apps.
MailDroid Pro replaces Email and GMail.
I noticed that Google now spams your phone's GMail account asking you to use Google apps. There's no opt-out, of course.
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Well right on, you've got your replacement apps. I couldn't do that personally (even before i got hooked on Google Assistant).
And you can turn off a LOT of the pre-fetching, and the cross linking that the Google app and others do, but of course there will always be some (web and app activity in google account. Others in the google app, like contacts, calendar, call logs, sms, etc)
I'd be interested to know how your battery life compares, because while the Google apps can be... Busy... They do their business in pretty light-weight ways.