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Thats my only deal breaker.
That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
Not a deal breaker for me, but I am certainly disappointed. I was hoping for a fingerprint sensor for lastpass, and to make 2-factor authentication simpler.
The fingerprint sensors on Android phones are kind of junk right now (compared to the one on the iPhone. Every once in awhile Apple does something amazing!), so I'd rather wait until there's actually a good one, but still... I was hoping.
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I hate fingerprint sensors so I'm glad it doesn't have one.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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That is correct, there is no fingerprint scanner. I must ask though, why is that a deal breaker? Seems like such a trivial thing when the rest of the phone is absolutely top notch.
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Why do you hate them? Ever use Touch ID? It's amazing.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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I don't want my fingerprint data used for anything in terms of mobile because its possible to compromise it. You can't replace your fingerprints like you can a password, and just because no one has taken your data yet, it doesn't mean they won't in the future. Anything is hackable these days so I'd rather not have a person obtain my fingerprint coupled with my card data and information.
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I'm not sure how Samsung stores your prints, but I know that the iPhone doesn't actually store any type of usable image. From apple.com- "Touch ID doesn't store any images of your fingerprint. It stores only a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. It isn't possible for your actual fingerprint image to be reverse-engineered from this mathematical representation." The data is also encrypted and stored locally in a secured place on the A7 chip. Someone would actually need physical access to your phone to even attempt to get the data and even if they somehow managed to pull it off, it is still encrypted and still not an actual image. So even if Apple is wrong and it is possible to reverse-engineer your prints, it would be a colossal undertaking to end up with a usable print and you would have to be someone real important for someone else to be willing to go to those lengths to do it. That said, and please don't take this the wrong way, I think your fears might be slightly irrational, at least as it applies to fingerprint scanners in general.
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Well part of the reason being what you mentioned "Touch ID", it is great. Now I also own a samsung galaxy tab s and all I use is the fingerprint scanner to unlock it and Im actually used to it now. So for my next android device thats a must for me now, which is why I'm now leaning towards the Note 4
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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Anything can be reverse engineered (remember the enigma machine) and I don't trust apple because they don't post source code so ego knows what actually happening
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I'm not saying it can't be reverse-engineered, but the time and resources needed to do it would far exceed the value of the print. And even so, with the fact that the would be hacker would need to be in physical possession of the device to do it- wouldn't it make more sense to just lift the prints the old fashioned way off the phone itself?
who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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And face unlock running in background.
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Don't get me wrong, I love having it on my iPhone 6 but the way Samsung implemented it isn't as reliable or convenient. I would love to have one on the Nexus 6, but it certainly isn't important enough to make me even consider buying a Samsung phone. The Note 4 is pretty slick, but it is locked down super tight, and I'm one of those people that absolutely can't stand TouchWiz.
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I think I gotta correct you on the reliable part, I use it daily and its just as reliable as the iphone's but I rather stay away from comparisons. Maybe I just have good prints :0. All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
As for the locked down part, I'm not sure what you mean but Tmobiles is already rooted and unlocked. They got some roms and kernels already I believe. Touchwiz isnt my favorite but has improved a bit, and I cant stand plain vanilla just bores me after a while. Then again to each his own and thats why android rocks
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who cares about fingerprint scanner anymore, now with android L we have the ability to use a smart devices(watch) to unlock our phones!!!
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Me personally am not wearing a watch, let alone a smart watch lol.
Your Google password can be reverse engineered and cracked a million times easier than a mathematical representation of your fingerprint. Think of the fingerprint as a 10000 character long completely random password and you'll have some idea of how hard it will be to exploit.
TouchID is the best thing ever. Samsung's fingerprint scanner also works well. Biometric security should be on every phone, its much more secure and reliable, not to mention easier to use.
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All I'm saying is I'd rather have an android device with that kind of security convenience than the type I'm using today, zilch. I have a wide open device, no lock code. I just hate having to enter a pin or swipe to unlock.
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Uh, yea....
Gonna leave it at that.
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Ok ever since Ive seen this phone I've been smitten with it., but the price has scared me off a bit...it does seem to have some down to a relatively reasonable price and its got me thinking again. The Camera is what intrigues me the most, as with most people I would assume.
Here is what gives me pause though...from a lot of accounts it doesn't do very well taking pictures of people and just about every real review Ive sen says the camera oversharpens a lot, in any situation. My dilemma is I take a lot of pictures of my kids, as a lot of people do, so crappy pictures of people is sort of a dealbreaker for a phone. The low light performance seems amazing and teh 3x zoom I could definitely get some use out of, but the beauty mode and sharpening is stopping me from buying this phone.
Are there any ROMs that can be flashed that addressed this? Is this something someone could find in the software of the phone and disable? VIA a rom again obviously because it cannot be disabled in stock form it appears.
I find with people oh and dogs it can be a a little slow I am thinking of jumping ship to the note 9 as that camera is lightening fast plus you can add a memory card
When you come to scenary I have to say wow
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I have to say however it's an amazing device it's fast and fluid operating system wise i have always used iPhones and am happy to have moved to android just wish camera person wise was more polished
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Yeah that's great, but as you probably know people and dogs rarely stand still..babies even worse. If it's a little slow that's a definitely no, I got a note 8 and even that is a bit slow at times and I miss the shot Im trying to get.
My other options are a p2xl or a Oneplus 6, or keep the Note 8 but the GF needs a new phone
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Yeah that's great, but as you probably know people and dogs rarely stand still..babies even worse. If it's a little slow that's a definitely no, I got a note 8 and even that is a bit slow at times and I miss the shot Im trying to get.
My other options are a p2xl or a Oneplus 6, or keep the Note 8 but the GF needs a new phone
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That's the problem people move and the AI modes say keep still even once shot
I played with the note 9 last night and it was lightening fast
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I find with people oh and dogs it can be a a little slow I am thinking of jumping ship to the note 9 as that camera is lightening fast plus you can add a memory card
When you come to scenary I have to say wow
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I have to say however it's an amazing device it's fast and fluid operating system wise i have always used iPhones and am happy to have moved to android just wish camera person wise was more polished
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Slow to focus or slow shutter speed? Anyway I don't find it slow by any means, one of the fastest to both focus and fire of a shot to be honest
I've found the rear cameras work really well - it is fast to focus, the night mode and B&W are really good. Turn off the AI as I think it's not very good. For just a point and shoot, I think the Pixel 2 will give you better results. If you are willing to put in a bit of work into your shots, I think the P20 Pro will give you excellent results. Now, if you are talking about the front camera, it is not very good (IMO). So, if you use the front camera quite a bit, I might suggest other options for you.
From what I hear, the video is not very good either (I don't shoot video, so I cannot comment first hand). I've read that the rear camera processing software was done by Leica and the front camera and video was done by Huawei - that may explain the difference in quality between those.
Overall, I find the hardware excellent but am not so fond of EMUI (esp. the memory management, notifications and AOD).
I take loads of photos of my kids, who never stop moving. Ever. Most of the time it takes amazing shots, but sometimes they're a bit blurry.
The over softening of faces has been reduced on recent updates, and if you're in portrait mode you can dial it down with a slider (it's called beauty level).
You'll struggle with ROMs now though - Huawei have stopped giving bootloader unlock codes. This means you won't be able to flash anything, and even if you could it has completely stifled development. Personally I wouldn't buy it now because of this (you also won't be able to root). But the photos really are incredible so if you can put up with stock software and no root then get it.
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I've found the rear cameras work really well - it is fast to focus, the night mode and B&W are really good. Turn off the AI as I think it's not very good. For just a point and shoot, I think the Pixel 2 will give you better results. If you are willing to put in a bit of work into your shots, I think the P20 Pro will give you excellent results. Now, if you are talking about the front camera, it is not very good (IMO). So, if you use the front camera quite a bit, I might suggest other options for you.
From what I hear, the video is not very good either (I don't shoot video, so I cannot comment first hand). I've read that the rear camera processing software was done by Leica and the front camera and video was done by Huawei - that may explain the difference in quality between those.
Overall, I find the hardware excellent but am not so fond of EMUI (esp. the memory management, notifications and AOD).
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Yeah honestly I don't use a front camera a lot and even when I do the quality doesn't really matter all that much.
I do do a lot of point and shoot, the quick snap of a kid doing something . But I do like having the extra functionality if I really wanted to take the time to get a really good shot. That's just not always practical.
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I take loads of photos of my kids, who never stop moving. Ever. Most of the time it takes amazing shots, but sometimes they're a bit blurry.
The over softening of faces has been reduced on recent updates, and if you're in portrait mode you can dial it down with a slider (it's called beauty level).
You'll struggle with ROMs now though - Huawei have stopped giving bootloader unlock codes. This means you won't be able to flash anything, and even if you could it has completely stifled development. Personally I wouldn't buy it now because of this (you also won't be able to root). But the photos really are incredible so if you can put up with stock software and no root then get it.
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yeah, it seems that people were trying to get Huawei to allow people to unlock again. Eh may it would be better to just wait until that happens.
Ok so a few things.
The device as a non rooted device is as good as they come.
Design
Battery
Camera
Performance
Storage
System
Can't fault any of it.
My wife has the phone as stock and she loves it.
I have the phone with the bootloader unlocked, debranded and rooted and I love it.
I can do a lot more than my wife can with it due to the flexibility of being able to remove bloat and install things like lineage and mods like swap torpedo for speed.
Personally if I was unable to unlock the bootloader, there is no way I would contemplate buying this phone, not for its price or for it's hindered lack of unlocking options.
My advice, you cannot unlock the bootloader any more.
Pixel 2 XL It's just dropped by £100
OnePlus 6T when it arrives
Pixel 3 when it arrives.
Not this phone, unless you are going to never hope to root it.
No one of the things I would need would be to get rid of EMUI because people don't seem to like it and from what I hear I wouldn't like it either. I would by buying it with the intention of swapping something more stock ish on it, so if I can't do that its really a non starter.
I'm really looking at a 2xl probably from swappa there are a bunch of refurbs or buybacks on there for a pretty decent price and there is the 200 off deal from Fi too.
I am considering the 6, yeah the 6t will be out but not until November and even then what can they do to change it? wireless charging is almost a sure bet, but not sure what else. Maybe a bit of work on that notch but that doesn't bother me too much. My note 8 has wireless charging and I never use it, so I can do without that.
The 3XL was what I wanted originally but the more leaks I see of the phone the more I don't like it. Again I'm not a notch hater like some people seem to be but it is rather large on the 3xl it seems and with the chin on the bottom it makes the screen look oddly placed...aesthetic issues only though.
The big thing though is it looks like it's only going to have 4 gigs of ram and a battery that's not any larger than its predecessor and for a phone that's likely going to cost around a thousand dollars that's just not acceptable. Now if they come out and say we could only fit this battery and 4 gigs of ram in it because our sensor is bigger than the P20 pros, or something else crazy like that, they may have my attention, but until I hear something like that Im not so interested. Even then, Huawei managed to fit a 4k battery and 6 gigs of ram and 2 more cameras in their phone in addition to the big one...so even that would be a weak excuse, but I could settle for that.
Loving my pro. Coming from Samsung for over ten years, I really like emui. Very easy to use. Very customizable. Thumbs up from me.
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Wanted to start up a thread where users can share their experience with the underscreen fingerprint scanner as well as faceunlock.
I registered both thumbs and right index finger. It seems like the scanner will only read the finger correctly if the finger is placed in the same orientation as it was during the initial registration. This is a bummer.
Seems like the faceunlock unlocks the phone even before the fingerprint scanner tries to read the print.
The faceunlock is not that secure. I would go out and say it is not secure at all. My brother came to check my new phone and it unlocks the phone based on his face. I think it's only because we both have beards.
Anyway, bit disappointed, with they just stick with regular fingerprint reader on the back.
The underscreen fingerprint scanner is a tech that is not really ready for primetime. I hope this does not hinder the sales of the phone.
I am using a T-Mobile variant on 9.0.
Hi there,
So, my theory is that the finger print sensor is NOT optimized for Oxygen OS. there is a huge lag obviously compared to any previous Oneplus Phones. that being said, there are a couple of factors that can contribute:
Screen is dirty
Finger is dirty.
Try registering your fingerprint in Paypal or Cash or any of Google Pay or your banking app or any of the other programs that require a fingerprint sensor. Since it was already registered and (hopefully only) stored on the phone, these apps all registered my finger lightning (sorry apply pun) quick. NOT as fast as previous fingerprint sensors on the back, but MUCH faster, at least to me, as trying to unlock it on the screen once it's sleeping. Yes, and by the way, the sensor is NOT always on.
For instance, you have to either turn the screen on, or have the tap to unlock screen or raise to unlock screen on in order to have the sensor unlock your fingerprint.
There's also quite a few bugs i've found. To me, and I've owned every Oneplus since the 2, the T mobile version doesn't feel that optimized in terms of OxygenOS. I don't have an unlocked 6T to compare, but there's a few things that the T Mobile version doesn't include, that was announced at the presentation, since as the nice portrait mode of the camera. I am hoping that it gets updated soon, otherwise i'll just completely buy this out and sell it and pick up a RED 6 or 6T again.
Suffice to say, i'm a little disappointed. Great advertising though with EVERY tech site that this was the future, although the future is not as quick as what's going on now.
Face unlock is VERY quick, but not that secure. I agree.
If it wasn't for the larger battery and the T Mobile trade in, I would have gone back to the Oneplus 6, however, I can't find RED in 128/8.
I have multiple fingers registered and they all work fine and fast. Increasingly fast in fact ... So fast that it made me wonder if the phone was actually locked in the first place by using unregistered fingers. Works fine and fast no matter what orientation my finger is on the sensor.
I've been reading so many posts complaining about the in-display fingerprint sensor ... Saying it's slow. Glitchy. Inconsistent. I have not seen any hint of that on my new OP6T.
It seems to function as good as or better than my OP3T's dedicated sensor.
I was having issues as well so deleted all my prints and redid them this time by not pressing so hard on the screen. Now it works 10x better
I have an unlocked version and I think, in my case, it has worked better then the sensor on the back. My fingers are the nastiest , dirtiest(stained with oil and dirt) and it does better then what the back sensor ever did . It may be a touch slower but does a half second really matter ?
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Same here, works perfectly for me, I have 4 fingerprints registered, both thumbs and indexes. They all got increasingly faster with time.
My friend came over yesterday with his pixel 3xl, was worried the in screen reader would be mediocre, but he was so impressed with the performance, decided to sell his phone and order the 6t, guess he couldn't live with that notch lol
You don't even need to add multiple prints. When setting up your print, just scan in at different angles with every press. I used the same strategy with the old external scanner so my fingerprint could be picked up at odd angles, and it applies to this as well. There is no difference between this under display reader and the old external one, in terms of speed.
I came from Samsung Note8 and the sensor on the 6T is much faster than the Note 8.
Not sure what kind of weird crap ya'll are having to do to get your prints working in different angles... I simply registered mine as normal. I can do them from upside down, sideways... It doesn't matter.
I don't understand why so many seem to be having issues with this. It's by far faster and more reliable than the capacitive scanner on my old OP2. One interesting thing I've noticed is that if there is a slight delay, it's the OS not the scanner. Sometimes I'll remove my finger before the screen unlocks but the screen still unlocks, it just takes a few extra microseconds. The scan time is less than a second and it seems to work in various finger positions.
Coming from 5T and 6 I find the 6T scanner to be perfectly fine. It may be "marginally" slower but we're really splitting hairs. It fires up and unlocks in a timely manner.
As for face unlock if I wear my sunglasses in the car it won't unlock with my face. I have to pop my shades off for it to register.
I have no issues with mine, I can unlock it from any angle on all my registered fingers. I'd recommend deleting your fingerprints and reregistering.
Maybe we should start posting how we registered our fingerprints. The ones that are having success should post how they registered there fingerprints. Then we can determine a sure fire way on how to do it.
The scanner is working fine for me.
I found that for my left thumb, training it in the way I place my finger when I pick up the phone made it fast and flawless.
Too everyone who states its laggy or slow, especially compared to previous ONEPLUS devices, remember this, the in-display fingerprint sensor is optical meaning it scans an IMAGE of your finger as reference. Hardware fingerprint sensors map a 3d layer of your finger which makes them faster and more responsive because they do not have to rely on light or image capture. I can say without a doubt tho, the oneplus 6t has the fastest optical fingerprint sensor compared to other manufacturer, including the mate 20 pro. This has also been proven in a couple youtube comparisons. Optical will never be perfect because it relies on light, pressure and image scanning. I have used the fingerprint sensor and face unlock and I am quite impressed with both, no issues at all for me. Yes they are both less secure but if people are that worried about security, stick with a PIN instead. I am by no means bickering at people, just want to relay useful information to provide a valid arguement in OnePlus' favor as they have truly optimized their unlock methods compared to others who use the SAME technology.
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Maybe we should start posting how we registered our fingerprints. The ones that are having success should post how they registered there fingerprints. Then we can determine a sure fire way on how to it.
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I, uh....put my finger on it, like 10 times.
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Coming from 5T and 6 I find the 6T scanner to be perfectly fine. It may be "marginally" slower but we're really splitting hairs. It fires up and unlocks in a timely manner.
As for face unlock if I wear my sunglasses in the car it won't unlock with my face. I have to pop my shades off for it to register.
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You have to pop your shades off because part of the code for face unlock is that it requires youre eyes to be looking at the screen to unlock. Its so that someone cant try to steal your phone while your sleep and unlock it with your face to snoop. Test it, have a friend look at the phone while you look at it with your eyes closed, then open your eyes and it will unlock.
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You have to pop your shades off because part of the code for face unlock is that it requires youre eyes to be looking at the screen to unlock. Its so that someone cant try to steal your phone while your sleep and unlock it with your face to snoop. Test it, have a friend look at the phone while you look at it with your eyes closed, then open your eyes and it will unlock.
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I figured as such. I should delete the face data and let it learn with my shades on! :silly:
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I, uh....put my finger on it, like 10 times.
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When I registered mine, I do the same thing I do to all my phones and I actually turn my finger in multiple directions and that seemed to work for me. I can scan it side ways and up and it works, atleast for me it did.
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I figured as such. I should delete the face data and let it learn with my shades on! :silly:
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If you do that then it may not recognized you when your shades are off. What you could try is start recodring your face with your shades on, then as it goes, take them off and see if that works
Wonder if some phones are "defective"? Mine is pretty fast.
Am I crazy that I still really like the Pixel 4 XL a year plus later?
I bought the Pixel 5 right away, wanting better battery life and bright screen, plus more one handed friendly phone.
Yes the Pixel 5 has insane battery life. That's it. It feels like a cheap toy phone, and the speakers suck do bad, mainly the earpiece for phone calls, sound tinny and like a mile away.
The Pixel 4 XL feels way more premium, higher end build quality, sharper looking display, better feel in hand, I know it's large for a 6.3" phone, but I find it easier to type on and just feels solid in hand.
Actually if you didn't tell anyone when these two phones were released, I bet most non tech people would think the Pixel 4 XL is a new 2020 phone, and the Pixel 5 an older phone from few years ago.
Anyways, hoping Google goes more flagship next year.
I looked at other phones, and nothing really interests me out there right now. Yeah the OnePlus 8 Pro looks great, but at this point the 9 Pro is due in March.
iPhone 12 Pro Max looks stunning, super high end build, and a beautiful huge screen, with a FLAT display But iOS ugh .
I don't buy phones every year. If the Pixel 5 had been released next year, I would have kept my Pixel 4 XL for 3-4 years, if possible. I don't want a small phone. I'm not interested in plastic rim phones(4a). I find hole-punches more offensive than top bezels... I would rather have real tech using the space. But I'm not sore about using lesser SoCs... Qualcomm is ruining flagship potentials with their 5G design choices in upper-end SoCs.
Just wait for a 2021 phone. It's not worth getting a new phone only a year later anymore.
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I agree that it's not worth getting a new phone after a year now. Also agree with OP in spirit although I haven't actually tried a pixel 5. I find the 4xl screen excellent size & resolution, I find face unlock brilliant. Somehow rear fingerprint scanner seems like years ago now. Personally, I use telephoto more than I would a wide angle camera and also, in my opinion, any amount of bezel or "forehead" is better than a hole in the screen. Ye, 2021 at least for me too.
Yeah I've had my pixel 4 XL since last November. I downgraded by selling my note 10 plus and using this as my daily driver. It is served its purpose for the most part but a year later there are things about it that are annoying me apart from an absolute ****ty selfie camera, there are more noticeable bugs and issues that I'm having now than I ever did when I got to device initially.
But it is what it is I've enjoyed it for the most part and I'm excited to receive my Sony Xperia 5 Mark II in a few days. That device is game changing compared to this and the pixel 5.
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Yeah I've had my pixel 4 XL since last November. I downgraded by selling my note 10 plus and using this as my daily driver. It is served its purpose for the most part but a year later there are things about it that are annoying me apart from an absolute ****ty selfie camera, there are more noticeable bugs and issues that I'm having now than I ever did when I got to device initially.
But it is what it is I've enjoyed it for the most part and I'm excited to receive my Sony Xperia 5 Mark II in a few days. That device is game changing compared to this and the pixel 5.
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It's only game changing on paper, in real world use not so much.
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It's only game changing on paper, in real world use not so much.
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While I respect your opinion, I disagree,
the battery life alone is something that demolishes the pixel 4 XL.
Then you have an identical stock Android. the stock Android that pixels have that everybody glorifies an overhypes the saying is super smooth is no different than what is found on the Xperia.
and 120hz refresh rate.
Personally I found pixel devices to be completely overhyped for the prices that they're charging and with formidable issues such as poor build quality (seen regularly with all pixel devices since their inception) I just haven't had my money's worth of an experience with the pixel devices.
I genuinely believe the software and the apps that Google develops is great. They should stick with software development and just present their full-fledged featured apps with no compromises to all Android phones. 90% of their apps are available on other devices and can definitely be ported over specifically the recorder app and even on some phones gcam. Which in all honesty I've seen ports of gcam that function better than the stock camera on the pixel 4 XL.
But yeah that's just been my experience everybody's differs they might have had an entirely pleasant experience and that's good on them but I'm excited to be back on the Xperia line again.
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While I respect your opinion, I disagree,
the battery life alone is something that demolishes the pixel 4 XL.
Then you have an identical stock Android. the stock Android that pixels have that everybody glorifies an overhypes the saying is super smooth is no different than what is found on the Xperia.
and 120hz refresh rate.
Personally I found pixel devices to be completely overhyped for the prices that they're charging and with formidable issues such as poor build quality (seen regularly with all pixel devices since their inception) I just haven't had my money's worth of an experience with the pixel devices.
I genuinely believe the software and the apps that Google develops is great. They should stick with software development and just present their full-fledged featured apps with no compromises to all Android phones. 90% of their apps are available on other devices and can definitely be ported over specifically the recorder app and even on some phones gcam. Which in all honesty I've seen ports of gcam that function better than the stock camera on the pixel 4 XL.
But yeah that's just been my experience everybody's differs they might have had an entirely pleasant experience and that's good on them but I'm excited to be back on the Xperia line again.
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Yeah software is good on the Sony ones. Only thing that was annoying when I had the 1 mk ii was the disappointing camera and slow UI in the app.
21:9 is comfy to hold so I miss that. Id be very surprised if a 4000mah battery at 120hz would be much different to the 4XLs.
Hopefully a better experience for you on the 5ii than I had on the 1ii.
I upgraded to Pixel 5 from the 4XL. My primary motivation is I hate the face unlock. I sorely missed the old fingerprint reader along the back. The only reason I upgraded from a 3XL to 4XL was the 3XL had hardware probs.
At first, I wasnt sure I was gonna be able to do it as the smaller phone felt odd and wasnt sure if I'd be able to type vertically with my thumbs (I still can once I got the case on it). It took some getting used to but then I quickily realized how absurdly big and heavy the 4XL is. The only other obstacle was no Active Edge. I never used it for the Assistant, but I use it daily to use my flashlight from the lock screen. This one was a must. I then discovered the Torchie app , that I can activate using the volume buttons.
Its much faster and the battery life is crazy good. Im very happy now having my fingerprint unlock back and more room in my pockets.
Tried the pixel 5 out and couldn't justify upgrading from my 4xl.
I'm returning it to Best buy tomorrow
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I upgraded to Pixel 5 from the 4XL. My primary motivation is I hate the face unlock. I sorely missed the old fingerprint reader along the back. The only reason I upgraded from a 3XL to 4XL was the 3XL had hardware probs.
At first, I wasnt sure I was gonna be able to do it as the smaller phone felt odd and wasnt sure if I'd be able to type vertically with my thumbs (I still can once I got the case on it). It took some getting used to but then I quickily realized how absurdly big and heavy the 4XL is. The only other obstacle was no Active Edge. I never used it for the Assistant, but I use it daily to use my flashlight from the lock screen. This one was a must. I then discovered the Torchie app , that I can activate using the volume buttons.
Its much faster and the battery life is crazy good. Im very happy now having my fingerprint unlock back and more room in my pockets.
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These days, with masks on all the time, face unlock has been rendered useless and annoying
HipKat said:
These days, with masks on all the time, face unlock has been rendered useless and annoying
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I hear this all the time, but I haven't experienced it much. To begin with, I don't think face unlock even looks at the bottom part of your face. Maybe it's a male-specific beard precaution. With a face contouring mask, moving the mask down half an inch is all it takes for my phone to recognize me. I can manage that just by opening my mouth wide which pulls down the mask slightly.
jljtgr said:
I hear this all the time, but I haven't experienced it much. To begin with, I don't think face unlock even looks at the bottom part of your face. Maybe it's a male-specific beard precaution. With a face contouring mask, moving the mask down half an inch is all it takes for my phone to recognize me. I can manage that just by opening my mouth wide which pulls down the mask slightly.
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I work on the medical field, wear a mask all shift, and it has never recognized me with a mask on. I don't have a beard but interestingly it does unlock when I have shaving cream on my face probably because it can actually get the contours of my cheeks. Either way, I usually use Smart Lock with my watch while at work.
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jljtgr said:
I hear this all the time, but I haven't experienced it much. To begin with, I don't think face unlock even looks at the bottom part of your face. Maybe it's a male-specific beard precaution. With a face contouring mask, moving the mask down half an inch is all it takes for my phone to recognize me. I can manage that just by opening my mouth wide which pulls down the mask slightly.
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TBH, since Android 11, Face unlock has been sketchy. It never used to lag unlocking when it's in the phone holder in my vehicle. Now it does often. In the dark, fuhgeddaboudit....
I've used the P7 abit now, and some things I can't get over.
1) The edges of the screen, is sharp for a flat screen. Hard to get used to.
2) Fingerprint scanner. I know, finger has to be clean and dry. Which it always is. I've turned on screen protector mode, registered each fingerprint twice and still having issues.
One thing that is making me hesitant to return/exchange is with TMobile you have the restock fee.
I probably should have gotten the OnePlus 10t or the Moto Edge 2022.
SonnyKrockett said:
I've used the P7 abit now, and some things I can't get over.
1) The edges of the screen, is sharp for a flat screen. Hard to get used to.
2) Fingerprint scanner. I know, finger has to be clean and dry. Which it always is. I've turned on screen protector mode, registered each fingerprint twice and still having issues.
One thing that is making me hesitant to return/exchange is with TMobile you have the restock fee.
I probably should have gotten the OnePlus 10t or the Moto Edge 2022.
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about the fingerprint, i face the same issue, its a hit or miss, mostly hit if you hold a finger in the correct place. try to enable the onbody detection which works pretty good if you carry the device with you at most times. you can also do face unlock which solves the problem.
other than that its a good device. you are going to get used to these small first world problems. you'll adapt. the 10t has other issues, i was looking to get it but the software support and the os is not what oneplus used to be (speaking from some experience). i exchanged my 7t for the p7 and have no regrets. like they say, never settle... with the moto edge i have no support in my country so... and on paper it looks fine but not that much better than the p7 (for me the CPU and GPU are the wrong set). if you want a solid device with the best of everything no matter what the cost? there's no such thing unfortunately. you have to sacrifice some functions or performance to get what you kind of looking for. so i hope that answers your question...
AJ205 said:
about the fingerprint, i face the same issue, its a hit or miss, mostly hit if you hold a finger in the correct place. try to enable the onbody detection which works pretty good if you carry the device with you at most times. you can also do face unlock which solves the problem.
other than that its a good device. you are going to get used to these small first world problems. you'll adapt. the 10t has other issues, i was looking to get it but the software support and the os is not what oneplus used to be (speaking from some experience). i exchanged my 7t for the p7 and have no regrets. like they say, never settle... with the moto edge i have no support in my country so... and on paper it looks fine but not that much better than the p7 (for me the CPU and GPU are the wrong set). if you want a solid device with the best of everything no matter what the cost? there's no such thing unfortunately. you have to sacrifice some functions or performance to get what you kind of looking for. so i hope that answers your question...
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I agree. I initially wanted to get the OnePlus 10t, but the manager said that the few ppl that actually bought the device, didn't have a good experience. But he didn't say why. Thought it was odd he said that because at first he said he didn't want to sway my opinion from the P7 vs the OP, lol.