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HTC Flyer Powered Charging Stand for Nook Color?

I came across the following charging stand for the HTC Flyer. What do you think? Would this work with our Nook Colors?
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Base-Dock-C...ccessories&hash=item3f0be99c32#ht_2900wt_1375

Well, it might connect but won't give you the fast charging ability of the stock nook cable (which has additional connections for the 3-4 hour rapid charge). Provided that you connected to a 2 amp source, you might get a charge after 8 hours or so, and if you had a 1 amp charge, _IF_ your screen was off perhaps after another few hours (12?).

Phatdawg said:
Well, it might connect but won't give you the fast charging ability of the stock nook cable (which has additional connections for the 3-4 hour rapid charge). Provided that you connected to a 2 amp source, you might get a charge after 8 hours or so, and if you had a 1 amp charge, _IF_ your screen was off perhaps after another few hours (12?).
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This might actually have fast charge, thank to it being for the Flyer and all. I think this stand would work, but I have no idea how far that micro usb comes up from the bottom. Hate to have you set your Nook down and break it off or something.

Well I took a chance and ordered one from some store in Hong Kong. Will be here in a few weeks and will let you know if it works out!

igolfchip said:
Well I took a chance and ordered one from some store in Hong Kong. Will be here in a few weeks and will let you know if it works out!
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THat does look really nice. If it works out igolfchip, please let us know!

Nburnes said:
This might actually have fast charge, thank to it being for the Flyer and all. I think this stand would work, but I have no idea how far that micro usb comes up from the bottom. Hate to have you set your Nook down and break it off or something.
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Well, just to give you some idea of my tests.
Stock charger + cable = 3-4 hours
Stock cable + 3rd party 2amp brick = 7-8 hours.
From that picture it looks like a universal mini usb attachment. I doubt it will give the 3-4 hour charge. It probably will be a 2amp source though.

Phatdawg said:
Well, just to give you some idea of my tests.
Stock charger + cable = 3-4 hours
Stock cable + 3rd party 2amp brick = 7-8 hours.
From that picture it looks like a universal mini usb attachment. I doubt it will give the 3-4 hour charge. It probably will be a 2amp source though.
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Maybe combine it with this: http://cgi.ebay.com/Barnes-Noble-Nook-Color-filter-plug-USB-charger-/190521989603#ht_3030wt_1163
I haven't tried it, but it would be quite nice if it work.

That might work, I don't know of anyone who's willing to try it out for 7 bux tho.

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That might work, I don't know of anyone who's willing to try it out for 7 bux tho.
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This guy did: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13730222&postcount=32 but didn't comment on his/her experience.

That would still mean you need the proprietary cable tho, and that's what keeps on breaking.
I wish a cheap 3rd party manufacturer would pick this item up...I wonder if monoprice would consider making them, or if they are protected by patent and unable to be reproduced because of it.

Phatdawg said:
That would still mean you need the proprietary cable tho, and that's what keeps on breaking.
I wish a cheap 3rd party manufacturer would pick this item up...I wonder if monoprice would consider making them, or if they are protected by patent and unable to be reproduced because of it.
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Yeah I know what you mean. Just had to call for a replacement today myself.
Probably is a patent issue, but that doesn't stop many manufacturers in China from making cables for Apple products, so I'm sure it's just a matter of time.
EDIT: Not to go too off topic here but I found these three on eBay, all of which state fast charging. Anyone tried them?
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-Home-AC-Char...Accessories&hash=item4840fd2d20#ht_1417wt_905
http://cgi.ebay.com/Barnes-and-NooK...ccessories&hash=item20bb08ebc0#ht_2022wt_1139
http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Home-Wall-A...ccessories&hash=item1c1d5bed4a#ht_4300wt_1727

Phatdawg said:
Well, it might connect but won't give you the fast charging ability of the stock nook cable (which has additional connections for the 3-4 hour rapid charge). Provided that you connected to a 2 amp source, you might get a charge after 8 hours or so, and if you had a 1 amp charge, _IF_ your screen was off perhaps after another few hours (12?).
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So, I tend to charge my devices overnight, so 2 hours or 6-8 hours really doesn't usually matter to me.
I see this dock as being a neat way to use the device at my desk (twitter feed, play music, etc...) as well as a stand to charge with.
Some folks have mentioned that standard MicroSD's don't charge the nook. I have used many different charging cables for my Samsung Captivate and found that the nook charges (and never complained about the time to charge).
Also, I checked out the Flyer at my local Best Buy store. The Flyer has a proprietary connector that is a modified MicroUSB connector. However, a standard MicroUSB also works. Looking at this item, seems that the stand from HK uses standard MicroUSB.
I'm guessing that the biggest issue I could come up with is 'fit' of the nook in this stand. Specifically, do I need to modify the stand so the back of the nook sits flush against the stand and doesn't put too much stress on the USB connector (assuming there's some space between the nook and the stand).

Any update on this?
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Just got it in the mail - I'd rate it an 8 out of 10.
Will post pics soon, but first impressions:
- Looks really good, blue indicator light when connected / Charging
- Hard to first figure out alignment, then it gets easy
- Fit:
- A little extra room between the back and the stand, not much wobble. Could always use tape or something to close the gap
- A little wiggle between the bottom edge and the stand. Again, some kind of black padded tape would easily resolve and look good. Not sure if I will event attempt as not a hassle yet
No idea on charging times, never been an issue for me as I'll use this:
1) At my desk (put a twitter feed or music on)
2) Overnight charging (3 hours or 6 hours don't really matter to me)
Again, pics to come soon!

Thanks keep us posted.
Does it hold the nook in landscape? I know it wont charge, but curious to know if its capable with the micro USB being there. Maybe add a pic with it in landscape as well.
Thanks
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Landscape is not advised.... If you can balance the device on there, will scratch up your nook.

Sounds like a good option. Can't wait fto see those pics.

That's excellent news. Can't wait to see the pictures. If you can get an estimated charge time as well, that would be excellent.
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I'm excited to see some pictures whenever they get posted, this looks like a good deal.

Add me to the list of those eager for pictures...

Wireless Charging with the EXTENDED Battery - Solved

If you're impatient like me, here's a DIY $13 mod I did to make the extended battery wireless charging enabled. Presumably works on all charging mats as the whole idea behind Qi is a universal standard.
http://uselesspuzzles.blogspot.com/2011/09/droid-bionic-optimizations-extended-bat.html
Photos and videos at the bottom of the post.
Here's the main video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7egtQl-Zg
I moved the coil a little bit so the connection was more secure after the video. Works without issue.
I bought like 5 touchstones so I can have one in my home office, office office, bedroom, living room, etc.

Do you know if the touchstone works with the VZW inductive charging back for the standard battery?

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Do you know if the touchstone works with the VZW inductive charging back for the standard battery?
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honestly i havent really read into the different technologies used... so no idea
my guess is if it did work it would probably not be as good an experience as the magnets are probably not placed in the same alignment (so the phone won't know exactly where to attach giving a sub-optimal placement)

Wow
Looks pretty nice, I happened to have the soldering supplies and wire might do this myself. How is the charging time as I can't find the output for the touchstones anywhere. Would you still recommend it after having it for a while now?

nah don't do it
it has to be perfectly aligned to charge properly- from what i've read the real bionic backplate works even through cases-
i'd say wait for a better version that is less finicky
or make one with the bionic reg. battery wireless charging door like i plan to

Triskite said:
it has to be perfectly aligned to charge properly- from what i've read the real bionic backplate works even through cases-
i'd say wait for a better version that is less finicky
or make one with the bionic reg. battery wireless charging door like i plan to
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I'd like that. I tried my bionic with the inductive charging door on the touchstone, and I couldn't get it to work, so this mod would be great. I hate the LG charging mat for the bionic
Do you know if this was a tight squeeze in the extended battery door? Also, does this mean you cannot take the door off anymore?

Hey guys, i know older post...has anyone done this with the reg battery?
If so, what kind of chargign times are u getting? ALso, are u usign the Palm mat or some other mat.
My intention is to use this with teh standard battery, and battery cover, so i can still use gel case

i'm still waiting for the long promised true wireless charging where the same towers that supply us our signal also charge our phones.
it's barbaric that we're still having to plug in somewhere to charge. what century is this anyway !!?!?

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i'm still waiting for the long promised true wireless charging where the same towers that supply us our signal also charge our phones.
it's barbaric that we're still having to plug in somewhere to charge. what century is this anyway !!?!?
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Specially since Tesla had this idea a longgggg time ago. Sure would be nice...

Very nice
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I did this using the stock charging cover for the bionic.
It works perfect but you need a Qi compatible pad. After searching I found one on ebay for 35 bucks. The only problem is it makes removing the battery difficult. My next project is to see if I can make the mod so it works just like the production cover.

Picking Up Some Palm Touchstones

So the other day I decided to read up on the wireless charging dock. It seems that Google is taking inspiration from the Palm Touchstone. So I wondered if they would be cross compatible. I checked Amazon and found them for under 10 dollars, so I picked one up just for the hell of it. If it works, great. If it doesn't then oh well, I wasted 10 bucks.
I was wondering if anyone did the same thing

Matt1408 said:
So the other day I decided to read up on the wireless charging dock. It seems that Google is taking inspiration from the Palm Touchstone. So I wondered if they would be cross compatible. I checked Amazon and found them for under 10 dollars, so I picked one up just for the hell of it. If it works, great. If it doesn't then oh well, I wasted 10 bucks.
I was wondering if anyone did the same thing
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This is a really interesting idea... I would like to hear if this would work from someone more experienced with inductive charging!

If it uses the Qi standard then yes it will work

doubtful
I've posted this previously but I am sorta doubting it will work. I can't find anywhere that says the touchstone supports Qi. I looked at the Qi low power spec document and the ifixit teardown of the touchstone and it seems the primary coil geometries are fairly different. I definitely can't say for sure it won't based on just that but it leads me to wait until someone tests it. Phil over at android central has a nexus 4 now for review and has ordered a touchstone so he can test it. I'll wait until he does before I personally pull the trigger. I really hope I'm wrong though because at those prices I'd probably buy a bunch of them and have them all over the house and office!
the qi spec also requires a 175kHz "digital ping" to ensure a good connection between the receiver and the transmitter; of course not knowing what palm did doesn't help but it's more evidence that it won't be as simple as get it near and it should send energy. I was initially thinking it might work with a bit less efficiency as long as the primary coil operated in the 110-205 kHz range allowed by Qi, but the digital ping has me even less encouraged.

Save your money, a Googler on another forum (I think it was androidtalk) said he tried it and didnt work

The willingness to take one for the team is certainly appreciated, though.

I picked a couple up just in case, but after looking into it further i dont think it'll work
I figure worst case the touchstones are a nice enough magnetic desk "dock" (mainly to hold the phone, not connectivity) so no great loss

Kinda disappointed that it won't work. Oh well, maybe I can find another use for the touchstone.

Why it won't work? The palm touchstone is being used with modified s3 and others I'm sure I've read it use the Qi 2009 standards...
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I have a few HP Touchstone inductive charging units from my Touch Pad tablet, might those work? Are they different from the Palm units?
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I have a BNIB HP Touchpad Touchstome charger, would be great if it works

I also snapped one up for £5 hoping they might work. Sucks that they apparently don't
If these are working on modded S3s, surely they can work on the Nexus 4?

Even if it doesn't work it'll make a great bed side phone stand. If it at least holds the phone in place it may well be worth it regardless.

Yeah, these things are so cheap, that the shipping is more expensive.

Check out page 24 of 30 on the first link about their research. Second link was members talking about Touchstone's frequency. I went and canceled 2 of my Touchstones order. So both devices have to matched frequency to have inductive charging. There is a high chance that Google inductive charging device doesn't match with Touchstone's frequency.
http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq51013.pdf
https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=11227
Edit: It has been confirmed by Androidcentral's Admin that Touchstone will NOT work with Nexus 4.

Confrmed by android central. this will not work.

Wireless Charging metal pins for magnets?

Has anyone heard if the Nexus 6 will magnetically attach to the Qi chargers like the Nexus 5? I'm a little worried it won't because of the curve on the back. I'd really like to use it as a car mount.

I've been wondering the same thing and have not heard anything yet. I use the AirDock in my car with my Nexus 5 and I love it.

Poke_N_PDA said:
Has anyone heard if the Nexus 6 will magnetically attach to the Qi chargers like the Nexus 5? I'm a little worried it won't because of the curve on the back. I'd really like to use it as a car mount.
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The Nexus 5 didn't do that for *all* Qi chargers, only specific ones. Most don't have the magnetic pins to hold phones.
That being said, nobody has any idea at this point whether the Nexus 6 will...but my guess is no.

Edit, sorry, posted in wrong thread.

I asked both Google and Motorola Customer Service if the Nexus 6 supported the magnets for aligning the charger. Neither customer service was able to answer the question unfortunately, but your mileage may vary.

Google now lists support for the Nexus 6 in the Nexus Charger documentation.
Device Placement
"Nexus 6: 2.5 inches (64mm) from the bottom of the device"
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6073618?hl=en
This might imply it has the metal pins, but does not explicitly state that it does. But that placement doesn't seem very balanced without some form of magnetic help.

amaddux said:
Google now lists support for the Nexus 6 in the Nexus Charger documentation.
Device Placement
"Nexus 6: 2.5 inches (64mm) from the bottom of the device"
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6073618?hl=en
This might imply it has the metal pins, but does not explicitly state that it does. But that placement doesn't seem very balanced without some form of magnetic help.
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Good catch. Yeah I would agree that it would have to have some kind of magnetic help. I just can't believe none of the early reviews or hands on videos have mentioned this. To me this is a pretty important feature

nelagster said:
Good catch. Yeah I would agree that it would have to have some kind of magnetic help. I just can't believe none of the early reviews or hands on videos have mentioned this. To me this is a pretty important feature
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Sadly, wireless charging is just a footnote to most reviewers, especially in the US where most phones don't come with it without paying for an extra add-on item (either a case or a sticker for the inside of the phone). Most reviewers are either rushing to get the review out and didn't get said accessory, or don't own a charger so don't bother. Sad, really, because wireless charging is a feature that a lot of people would love if they knew it was there. In your car, especially, the ability to just stick your phone in the holder to both charge and secure it and use a bluetooth adapter for hands free/music playback is a REALLY nice feature. Less fiddling with wires feels like the future.

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Sadly, wireless charging is just a footnote to most reviewers, especially in the US where most phones don't come with it without paying for an extra add-on item (either a case or a sticker for the inside of the phone). Most reviewers are either rushing to get the review out and didn't get said accessory, or don't own a charger so don't bother. Sad, really, because wireless charging is a feature that a lot of people would love if they knew it was there. In your car, especially, the ability to just stick your phone in the holder to both charge and secure it and use a bluetooth adapter for hands free/music playback is a REALLY nice feature. Less fiddling with wires feels like the future.
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Yep! I'm getting ready to buy the Air Dock soon (after they announce the new one sometime this month) and then I will get the bluetooth adapter to do exactly what you are talking about

Should get the Airdock, it is great, but version 2 is coming soon with improved charging coil, among several other features. Either way, the Airdock is great, I have three!

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Should get the Airdock, it is great, but version 2 is coming soon with improved charging coil, among several other features. Either way, the Airdock is great, I have three!
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Ohhh! You sound like you know more than me! Can you tell me when to expect the new air dock? I know it's supposed to be announced this month but will it be ready to ship this month too? Also what do you mean improved coil? Is it a higher current? Spill ALL the beans! Haha

MKBHD said he couldn't get it to charge using Qi on the Nexus charger. Have there been any reviews that have confirmed the Qi actually works on the N6 via a real world test and not just going by what the specs say?

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MKBHD said he couldn't get it to charge using Qi on the Nexus charger. Have there been any reviews that have confirmed the Qi actually works on the N6 via a real world test and not just going by what the specs say?
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I just finished this video. It better be working in mine. I use wireless charging all the freaking time. I would much rather have this than fast charge if I had to choose. But no, I haven't seen any reviews with it yet...

The Nexus Charger official help now list the Nexus 6 as compatible and shows the location of the qi receiver.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXA6mpIsZTY&list=UUDt0iwnK2sPXaOyZhVmXIQw#t=258
Got this from Reddit. This video shows the N6 on a Qi pad charging. From this and with Google's and Moto's pages showing Qi is supported I'm going to say that he must have had a bad unit.

I really expect to be able to use this with my airdock, ill be super dissapointed if the N6 doesnt have the metal plates for the magnets to grab....

Magnets on Nexus 6
They are either not there or are not activated by the Google qi charger from the play store like the Nexus 5 was.

One thing I will say, I have to set my n6 a bit more to the right than center to get it to connect and, more importantly, I set it on my qi pad at 11:30 the other night at 58%, woke up the next morning at 8am, 64%....... Very unsettling. Battery has been too dead every morning since to risk testing it again but my N7 charges just fine.

[Q] Anyone else have broken wireless charging? Help me out.

Hey guys.
I bought one of those NewWisdom stickers and it worked like a charm..... for a week. Then it would sit on the charger, show charging for a second, and then it would "disconnect". I am using multiple Tylt's and other chargers that I know work, but this error happened.
I read that the little stickers can be crappy and go bad, so I asked for a warranty replacement. I got a new one, installed it, and bam, same issue right away.
Is it more likely that I got 2 faulty charging stickers? Or that something is wrong on the inside of the phone?

I know you've posted on the threads re: the sticker.
Re: breakdown of the charging, I think the most relevant thread re: this is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/qi-stopped-t3176818
Though lots of reports here too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/wireless-charging-meltdowns-t3163156
Are you saying that right after the new sticker install, it never worked? Or it worked, then stopped?
It's becoming a widespread issue. Not everyone, but A LOT of folks.
My personal opinion, based on my observations on 2 phones using an OEM charging back, with a new sticker as a backup checker, is it is a hardware issue within the phone. Or perhaps some software issue tied into the hardware.

waylo said:
I know you've posted on the threads re: the sticker.
Re: breakdown of the charging, I think the most relevant thread re: this is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/qi-stopped-t3176818
Though lots of reports here too:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/wireless-charging-meltdowns-t3163156
Are you saying that right after the new sticker install, it never worked? Or it worked, then stopped?
It's becoming a widespread issue. Not everyone, but A LOT of folks.
My personal opinion, based on my observations on 2 phones using an OEM charging back, with a new sticker as a backup checker, is it is a hardware issue within the phone. Or perhaps some software issue tied into the hardware.
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Thanks for the links. The Additional information helps.
I posted to see what sticker was best and if anyone had one die on them. Seems that this is common enough. I hadn't posted this exact question before.
The new one i bought never worked. I know the pins are lined up and I even padded the back of them a little. My QI pads all show a green light, then a red light. Makes me think the sticker works just fine, but the inside of the phone is FUBARed.
I want to like this phone, i really do.

yeah i use cheap china 5 dollar qi pad with g3 few weeks and wierless charging gone...

rawdikrik said:
Thanks for the links. The Additional information helps.
I want to like this phone, i really do.
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Hahah, me too! The camera, if you don't get one with a pink tinge overlay, is fantastic! The iffy touchscreen issues are fixed with the 10N update!
The fact the wireless charging capability keeps breaking down as a hardware issue is ridiculous though.
I may post a poll to see if anyone has managed to keep their charging ability >1 month. Maybe when more time passes, as the phone is still quite new.

Just to let people know... I got a replacement today and the back that didn't work on my current phone works perfectly on the new one. For some reason... This issue is tied to the phone and not the stickers coming out.
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Yup there's definitely a faulty part in these phones.
Let us know how long the wireless charging lasts on this one.

Just a note, my wireless charging also stopped. It was a sticker I put on the original back. Just figured i'd screw with it later and that it probably wasn't making good contact so I picked up a regular wireless circle case to use in the meantime and it's also not charging. Likely something in the phone but I have no idea where to start. Oh well, that month of wireless charging was nice again. (and yes, I've tried different chargers that I know work, etc. Hah!)

Going strong for 4 weeks and still charging(with three different QI chargers and two different stickers). Possible cheap quality chargers are blowing out the hardware?

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Going strong for 4 weeks and still charging(with three different QI chargers and two different stickers). Possible cheap quality chargers are blowing out the hardware?
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In only use the real Tylt and Nokia chargers
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Going strong for 4 weeks and still charging(with three different QI chargers and two different stickers). Possible cheap quality chargers are blowing out the hardware?
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Always a thought, but I use the OEM original Samsung Qi charger, which has done fine with my S4 for years.

For any who have tried wireless charging, I have a poll and questionnaire re: your experience. Would greatly appreciate your input.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/tried-wireless-charging-t3227672