Convert user app to system app without root (Or with root but then unroot) - Huawei P10 Questions & Answers

Hello guys! I've been an android user since 2011. I have experience in rooting and unrooting some of my devices but with this phone, P10, I don't want to have root for personal reasons.
There are some personal apps that I need to convert as a system app though.
So does anybody know how to convert a user app to a system app without root? Or root -> convert apps to system app -> unroot.
Most of the guides here about unrooting seems to be flashing to stock.
I have also seen (through searching) threads about moving user apps to system apps and those actually don't answer my question.
If anyone could help me, I would be very grateful!
Thanks!

You could convert most applications to system using Titanium Backup with ease, you will need root, there is no way to write to system without it. You could unroot after it, and uninstall TiB, still, I don't get why you would want to do that, but it's doable.

Floodland said:
You could convert most applications to system using Titanium Backup with ease, you will need root, there is no way to write to system without it. You could unroot after it, and uninstall TiB, still, I don't get why you would want to do that, but it's doable.
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I'd like some apps to be installed as a system app but I don't want root as some bank apps don't play well with them.
So which method of root should I use so that I can unroot and still have my apps as a system app?

Magisk released version 16 specifically to support Huawei devices and our issues. You can pass safety net with it and hide su to damaged applications with it.
On the other hand, not sure if I would trust an Bank which puts the security on the client side as prerequisite to operate.
Do Banks require to their Windows clients not to have administrator user? No, right? (in fact, Windows OS needs a local admin account to operate). As clients we should request equal treatment. Administrator in Windows is as dangerous as root in Linux, so Banks should be honest and stop bothering clients, instead of us having to hide from them...

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[Q] Min reqs for app install

I have recently purchased the GT-P1000 in Kuwait. It's unlocked but I don't have admin rights to it. Initially, there was no Android Market but I found the fix for that in another post.
My current dilemma now is I can't seem to get apps to install. The downloads will pause themselves and never install the application. I've had this happen to Angry Birds and Robo Defense.
As of now, I have no desire to flash this device. AFAIK, it's 3g voice/data straight out of the box and I don't want to risk losing those features.
Now, the question is, what's the bare minimum I need to do so I can install apps from Android Market and remove unwanted apps?
So I feel like an idiot now. For some reason, I can now get the apps to download and install: Angry Birds, Robo Defense, ES File Explorer, and Dropbox have installed successfully.
I still would like to remove some apps and install some that will need root access. Can someone confirm that if I root the phone that it won't affect the 3G data/voice capabilities?
ROOTING only gives you su (superuser admin) rights to your phone. It doesnt affect your phone or device functions (unless you mess around somewhere). Rooting gives you ability to access files or functions that vendor has it locked out from you. Sort of like jailbreaking the iphone.
Flashing roms is another thing. Some roms have no support to some functions But since you already own an unbranded non carrier GSM and Not CDMA tab. You shouldnt really worry.
all samsung tabs are different...so in lots oof countries they made some differnces in possibilties.
Try out by going to my weblog and after registering to download thje apks you find in the download section.
Best is to download this on another laptop..and copy the apk to the micro sd card in a folder with your name
then withe a file manager clck on the apk to see if they install
not working.....then you need to root your samsung to make it work
Sent from my GT-P1000 using XDA Premium App
weblog rcs on samson-dimov in nl
Read this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
thanks for the info. I didn't think rooting would break anything but my paranoia got the best of me.
I rooted my phone yesterday and was able to install and run apps that need SU rights. I'm still havin trouble removing the apps that came with the Tab. Thoughts anyone?
FYI, I can uninstall apps that I've downloaded from the market.
PepsiBlue said:
I rooted my phone yesterday and was able to install and run apps that need SU rights. I'm still havin trouble removing the apps that came with the Tab. Thoughts anyone?
FYI, I can uninstall apps that I've downloaded from the market.
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Oho. stock apps cannot be uninstalled. Simplest way to uninstall stock apps is to use Titanium Backup Pro. Before you do that, be sure you backup the app in case you need it again later.

Initial list of removable apps using root access (debloat)

A special thanks to thecubed for providing us with root access! See his thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/root-tmo-vzw-intl-variants-soon-root-lg-t3164765
Following is a list of system apps I have removed without affecting apparent stability or performance. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for any damage you inflict upon your device, proceed at your own risk. I backed up complete copies of my system app folders, and rebooted after each uninstall in case I ran into trouble. I used the uninstall function of Rom Toolbox, and have heard of similar results using Titanuim Backup (including the inability to completely remove the Facebook entries without further intervention.)
Facebook
Instagram
Pages Manager
Lookout
Messenger (Facebook)
Snap Page
com.facebook.system
com.facebook.appmanager
The "com.facebook" entries were a little trickier. When attempting removal they would just downgrade to the factory-installed version, then after a reboot they immediately update themselves silently in the background. I had to remove the folders that held the original versions the apps were reverting to, then remove them again. I have never seen what should be an optional social media app so stubbornly intalled as a system app! Here are the directories I found the originals in:
/system/app/com.facebook.appmanager
/system/priv-app/com.facebook.system
/system/priv-app/lookout
After deleting these folders using a root file explorer (ES File Explorer) I was able to run root uninstalls with Rom Toolbox. I didn't remove anything connected to LG's services, Google's services, or the stock launcher. Only the apps that should have been optional to install in the first place. I hope this helps get some other users started making use of our new root access!
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Thanks for this guide
I deleted a lot more than both you guys but I'm going to leave it as it is because without TWRP it's really playing with fire.
SantinoInc said:
I deleted a lot more than both you guys but I'm going to leave it as it is because without TWRP it's really playing with fire.
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I'm really interested in that list.... My phone didn't have, half the apps they mentioned. Sprint Ls991. A screen shot...if possible... so you don't have to type all the apps.
I didn't document which apps I deleted. If you send me a list of apps you are wondering if they are safe to remove I will let you know if I deleted it.

use ROOT apps with unrooted Android 6

Hello I would like to know if it is posible.
I want to use some apps like titanium on my unrooted android 6
I have installed TWRP
so I think flashing the aps from zip in TWRP, setting root permission to the apps and placed on system apps, they are going to work like root?
Please help me, thanks!
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publi0147 said:
Hello I would like to know if it is posible.
I want to use some apps like titanium on my unrooted android 6
I have installed TWRP
so I think flashing the aps from zip in TWRP, setting root permission to the apps and placed on system apps, they are going to work like root?
Please help me, thanks!
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No, that isn't how that works, sorry. There is no such thing as "setting root permission". Simply moving the apps to /system won't allow them to get root, because you aren't rooted.
npjohnson said:
No, that isn't how that works, sorry. There is no such thing as "setting root permission". Simply moving the apps to /system won't allow them to get root, because you aren't rooted.
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and why other preinstalled apps can work as root?
publi0147 said:
and why other preinstalled apps can work as root?
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They don't... Because root doesn't exist on stock devices.
They do run as the system user, but that isn't enough for any root apps to function alone, as root apps rely on writing to non-user writable directories, which the system user cannot do.

Uninstalling bloat apps not working

Hey all!
I am absolutely new to the rooting world (last time I used a rooted phone was circa 2009/2010) so please bare with me, I am have a world of trouble with getting the bloatware apps uninstalled from my phone. HTC u11, I installed twrp, I installed magisk, I tried to uninstall the apps, no dice, I then grabbed one of the apps out there for removing system apps, I gave it root, it failed.
I'm hoping to get to the linux subsystem to see if I can get a jdk running on this. I'm trying to make a dev box I can use while hiking (all with a microphone and finger tracking keyboard). But the first pebble becomes a stumbling block. How to actually get root and act as an elevated user in android.
Anyways I think I'm missing something and maybe I missed a piece in the documentation since I did kinda fly through it.
There are a few ways to remove bloatware.
You can delete them in TWRP.
You can delete them with a root capable file explorer.
You can delete them with Titanium Backup.
You can delete them with an app that's been made for the purpose.
If one of the above doesn't work, try another.
You can also pseudo-debloat by using a Magisk module that simply systemlessly "removes" them. They'll still be there, taking up space, but you won't be able to access them in any way (until the module is uninstalled). I don't think this is what you want...
Doing it in TWRP should always work.
With MagiskSU, I've personally tested it with both a root file explorer (FX) and TiBu. But, YMMV...
Purpose made apps might or might not work. It depends if they're properly updated or not.

Remove some system app.

How to remove some system app in stock firmware?
rn777 said:
How to remove some system app in stock firmware?
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You can do that compeltely with root, by erasing the file from your root folder, or you can hide the app via adb and without root. In both case the app won't show up, but if you reset your phone the app will come back if you used the adb method.
Every apps can't be uninstalled/hiden without troubles. Some apps are necessary to your phone, but if you're talking about preinstalled facebook or something like that then no problem.
If you're not sure tell me what app you want to remove, I'll tell you if it's cool or not.
Here's an article on how to do it with adb:
How to uninstall carrier/OEM bloatware without root access
If you want to get rid of carrier/OEM apps from your phone, here's how you can uninstall bloatware from your device without root access!
www.xda-developers.com
I have root in my ROG 3. Me need remove facebook and youtube music.
Thank's all. I resolvet my issue with debloader utilites.

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