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Hi all, I just want to share my experiences I made today.
I have bought a Wide/Macro Lens like used in the Video (from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same) and it is NOT working! The magnets from the lens are not attracting to the magnets in the phone, they are pushing away! Be aware, I don't thing there is a standardized way how the lens manufacturers build in the magnet since it is designed to hold to a metal ring and not to another magnet.
I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
fireproofrev said:
(from Amazon, they all seems to be pretty the same)
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It's already known that some cheap ones on Amazon have more-or-less random magnetic polarity. The only ones confirmed for being consistent are the ones on Photojojo. As for messing with OIS, I don't have first-hand experience with these lenses, but it seems that that was also confirmed for not happening with the Photojojo lenses.
Unless you got the Photojojo ones through Amazon. Then you might want to post this in those other threads about this too, so people will see this result.
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
Andypandiiee said:
You could always take out the magnet and flip it around
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I tried to (with a little flat screwdriver), but it seems to be pressed in, it fits very tight. Maybe I try it tomorrow again (heat up a little??).
attached a picture of the lens
(at the amazon picture a silver one was shown but they delivered this black version)
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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uhm.. this is totally wrong, I don't want a great picture quality, I want a wide-lens to have a wider angle for party snapshots or being out with some friends. You can increase the visibility range alot and I like the effect, so why not? I definitely DONT want to carry a camera all the time (by the way I have also a canon eos d1000, yeah I know it is just a "cheap" DSLR but it is enough for me).
This is not a "camera has too bad quality" thread (IMO the N5 camera is great) so go away
By the way, the lens is working perfect with the metal ring on my GNex
I can also confirm this. I bought these from Amazon. Received these today and when tried to put them on ... the reverse polarity on the magnet on the lens and the one on the camera itself repel each other. I was only able to hold the lens in place with my hand to try out the macro lens (picture attached). However I didn't experience any vibration or OIS not working. OIS was working fine for me. I used HDR+ mode.
Anyways, lenses are going back. Only lens confirmed to work with N5 are from Photojojo and since those lenses are way overpriced I will not buy them.
zoomed out photo was taken at the closest distance where the on-screen camera focus ring turned green. YMMV.
Excuse the fingers in the macro shot as I was holding the lens with one hand while taking the photo.
enjoy
Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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picture 3
I ordered the Photojojo's from Amazon -- FROM Photojojo, and it's no-go jojo for my photo phono circo.
Anyway, the magnet doesn't work at all. Not quite reversed polarity that I can tell, but only one small area wants to attract. Not enough to keep the lens on.
Yea. The magnet on my phone barely holds up a paperclip. I seriously doubt it was designed for lenses. If it was, Google would be all over that with their advertising, especially since they have been flaunting their photo capabilities.
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Here's my post from another thread about this:
Got the photojojo and ehh not impresive at all. Although this one didn't seem to affect the camera like the others. When put up to the camera it didn't flicker like the cheap Amazon ones. Also it required me to have the metal ring attached
You're better off going with a product called Easy Macro. It's a macro lens attached to a band that fits around your phone so no magnets
Overall for $25 it's not worth it IMO. I'm returnng it and sticking with my easy macro.
Here are some images
Here are the full resolution ones taken with my n5 and the fisheye lens. It was an act of god to get it to focus right lol
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fullsize of the last 3 images taken with my dslr
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picture 3
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Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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dakunclear said:
Are you enjoying them so far cause I would love to get my hands on some extra lenses for this phone if they work good and yes I have a dslr as well but not always on me
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The fisheye lenses that I got were REALLY subpar to me, so I returned it. Since I had to attach a metal ring to the camera lens so that the lens could stick to it, I couldn't really justify it. Like I said in my earlier post I really like the easy macro because it's on a band and I can easily remove it. If I found a fisheye that was on a band like that I might get it, but idk the image quality wasnt that great either and the metal ring was really a turnoff Use amazon, buy it and if you dont like it then return it
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I tried to hold the lens just to take a test picture but the magnet interferes with the OIS, in some positions it caused hard vibrations within the N5's camera lens that was also visible in the camera app preview picture.
I would be careful with this lenses! I think the magnets in the N5 are designed for the OIS and not for some cheap 3rd party lenses. Gladly my OIS still seems to work flawless (This seems also to be why Google is not advertising such feature)
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Oh boy!!! I can now confirm this. After a long time I couldn't control myself and bought another set of lenses from Amazon and decided to stick the provided ring to the phone lens. Macro lens seemed to work fine however as soon as I mounted the wide angle lens ... OIS started freaking out so bad I can't even begin to describe. You can feel the vibrations and see it on the screen as well. I immediately removed the lens and put it away. OP was right about this little thing ... I won't be using wide angle lens to avoid any permanent damage to OIS in the phone .
Any kind of strong magnet will also disorient the directional sensor while using google maps. I was wondering why the turn by turn navi would randomly tell me to make a U-turn.
Test for yourself. Pop open google maps and locate your position. Then put a magnet near the top half of the phone, you'll see your directional pointer spin away.
Stay Frosty said:
All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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Yeah good luck. A dedicated camera like an SLR or a point and shoot won't be there when that spur of the moment photo presents itself to you.
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All of this effort to turn a phone into a camera... Why not just buy an SLR and enjoy real photography? Hell, even a cheap point and shoot blows away any phone camera.
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So much NO in this post. "real Photography"? Please. The fact that a photo is taken with a phone vs a DSLR vs medium format vs etc etc is irrelevant. You don't need a (relatively) expensive camera to take good photos. You need creativity and opportunity, that's it.
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I was almost tempted to buy one to play with my N5 camera.. but reading this thread made me worried..
Now I used that little money and bought a wireless charger... should be coming to me tomorrow..
Good to know -- thanks for the warning, you just saved me some time/money no doubt!
Hello!
The LG G2 has an exceptional camera, we all know that. So to take even more advantage of this I've made a makro lens that you can 3D print yourself. I just wanted to share this with you guys, I hope you like it. More sample pictures and files can be found on thingiverse
Because of me being a new user I can't post the link to it, but go on Thingiverse and search for samsve (LG G2 Makro lens)
Best Regards
Sammy
Here is the link
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:343279/#files
I wish I had access to a 3D printer though
Thank you!
To be clear on one point, the case is 3D printed, but the lens is from a "copier laser assembly" but you can find these types of lenses in every laser printer!
Very useful
Great man I could use this for an image proyect right now, massive thanks
samsve said:
Thank you!
To be clear on one point, the case is 3D printed, but the lens is from a "copier laser assembly" but you can find these types of lenses in every laser printer!
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Thanks for the heads up.
Is this really a macro lens (bring far object look [email protected]) or is it micro lens (magnifier for close-up imaging)?
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Is this really a macro lens (bring far object look [email protected]) or is it micro lens (magnifier for close-up imaging)?
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i guess you've messed up the terms...
1st lens you are mentioning in your post is called "zoom" or "tele" lens
2nd one is called "macro" or "close up" lens (not micro)
Any tips where to get nice macro (or micro, whatever) lens? I was using some lens from cheaps ebay lasers along with my old compact camera, the zoom was really huge but on the other side the quality was really poor. I've also got there some camera lens from Smena 8M and Zorki 4 (Industar 50 lens) but since I don't want to destroy them, I can't really use them for macro (or micro, whatever) (even when reverse mounted, not that much zoom).
Zarrick19 said:
Any tips where to get nice macro (or micro, whatever) lens? I was using some lens from cheaps ebay lasers along with my old compact camera, the zoom was really huge but on the other side the quality was really poor. I've also got there some camera lens from Smena 8M and Zorki 4 (Industar 50 lens) but since I don't want to destroy them, I can't really use them for macro (or micro, whatever) (even when reverse mounted, not that much zoom).
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most of the macro add-on lenses (or any add-on lenses) you can find for mobile phones are basically the same, cheap ones - good for fun, but no good for anything serious...
only thing that comes in mind is that sony standalone lens that can be used on any mobile device
like this one
http://www.wired.com/2014/09/sony-ilce-qx1/
but for that price (or if you add some extra $), you can find a better compact camera (like one from the Sony NEX series or Olympus Pen series)
60nine said:
i guess you've messed up the terms...
1st lens you are mentioning in your post is called "zoom" or "tele" lens
2nd one is called "macro" or "close up" lens (not micro)
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Oh thanks for correcting me though. Btw, is this lens for zooming or macro? I really wanted, well at least 50x optical zooming capabilities for my project. Not really interested for close-up shot since i've made my own by just using cd-rom lens. Its not perfect but, well it does the job.
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Oh thanks for correcting me though. Btw, is this lens for zooming or macro? I really wanted, well at least 50x optical zooming capabilities for my project. Not really interested for close-up shot since i've made my own by just using cd-rom lens. Its not perfect but, well it does the job.
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lol... you will hardly find 50x optical zoom lenses even for dslr cameras
if you need that much optical zoom - you better forget about mobile device for doing that...
you'd be better with the FinePix SL1000, Sony HX400V, Olympus SP-100, Canon PowerShot SX50 HS or several other compact cameras which will give you 50x optical zoom and way better pictures than any mobile device for sure...
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you can also search for a cheaper dlsr that you can attach to a telescope with a proper adapter... i believe there are some budget solutions for this combo
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lol... you will hardly find 50x optical zoom lenses even for dslr cameras
if you need that much optical zoom - you better forget about mobile device for doing that...
you'd be better with the FinePix SL1000, Sony HX400V, Olympus SP-100, Canon PowerShot SX50 HS or several other compact cameras which will give you 50x optical zoom and way better pictures than any mobile device for sure...
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you can also search for a cheaper dlsr that you can attach to a telescope with a proper adapter... i believe there are some budget solutions for this combo
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Yeah i know it is ridiculous to even begin with. Lol. It is just i am very interested in this kind of thing. My brother just got me 200x telescopic lens for my d90 and i started to see a whole new things to fiddle with. It is amazing!
Beware ladies. Lol. Just joking. Dont ever do unethical things like peeping tom could. Even if it fun.
I wish i had a Makro lens for my G2. All the photos that was taken with makro lens, look so great
Hosre said:
I wish i had a Makro lens for my G2. All the photos that was taken with makro lens, look so great
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believe me - macro lens on phones are PITA to use... especially if you don't have a dedicated photo capture button on your device (and G2 doesn't have it - at least not on the bezel side instead of the buttons on behind of the case)
you can grab a macro lens from ebay for as much as 10$ or less...
downsides are:
- very hard to focus due to being unable to keep the device steady that close to the subject (and you have to be very, very close to the subject to get it in focus)
- on G2 - the macro lens always has a black circle vignette around the image (lens hardly covers the whole frame without the vignette "effect")
- not so sharp images as the real macro photos
- a bit clunky to use because it clips on the device (instead of screwing to the case like i.e. on iPhones)
good points:
- nice for fun (especially if you don't have a normal camera - dslr or compact)
- gives almost a natural bokeh to the macro image (which isn't possible with phone lenses)
my 2 cents
60nine said:
believe me - macro lens on phones are PITA to use... especially if you don't have a dedicated photo capture button on your device (and G2 doesn't have it - at least not on the bezel side instead of the buttons on behind
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This one problem could actually be resolved by using voice-activated command on G2 stock camera app. It is called cheese shutter and this function is pretty great though.
kopter3161 said:
This one problem could actually be resolved by using voice-activated command on G2 stock camera app. It is called cheese shutter and this function is pretty great though.
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yes, it might work - but as i've said, it's the "holding the device still" that's PITA the most
Some of those acceptable pics (many are really really close up, but you can't really tell what it is, so I won't even post them)
Human hair
Sponge
IEM earphone wires (different lens)
Salt (or sugar)
Sugar (or salt)
Surface of a HDD disc
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Some of those acceptable pics (many are really really close up, but you can't really tell what it is, so I won't even post them)
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what lens and device did you use for this?
As I've said before, I'm using lens from the cheapest lasers on ebay.
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yes, it might work - but as i've said, it's the "holding the device still" that's PITA the most
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Yes without a tripod the image would susceptible to blurring. Unless it can take picture at 1/1000s at lowest ISO possible without darkening the picture, yes you wont get professional-quality close-up shot.
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Some of those acceptable pics (many are really really close up, but you can't really tell what it is, so I won't even post them)
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Those picture actually very nice. But the problem i spotted is there isnt enough lights. I used to take pictures like those but end up having to bring the camera too close to the object thus blocking lights to shine the object. That is the only problem for this method. At least for me, it is.
So ive been taking pictures with my beloved Note 8 for some time now. And the only thint that bugged me is how I need to have some distance just to capture a wider view. I got annoyed and thought what if I buy a wide angle lense? Has anyone tried using one? And what brand do you recommend? Ive been eyeing the products of Aukey and they seem to be good.
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So ive been taking pictures with my beloved Note 8 for some time now. And the only thint that bugged me is how I need to have some distance just to capture a wider view. I got annoyed and thought what if I buy a wide angle lense? Has anyone tried using one? And what brand do you recommend? Ive been eyeing the products of Aukey and they seem to be good.
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I'm going to a concert soon and I'm also looking for a Len's that snaps onto the phone but one that zooms in without sacrificing quality. I'm going to a few concerts this year and being able to zoom in would be awesome.
Hi ... I am a photographer that picked up a few lenses for my Note 8. I have the new Moment Wide from Moment. I also have their case for the Note 8 to mount the lens. It is very sharp and has excellent image quality. I can recommend it. I also own the Moment Fisheye (ultra wide lens). I would recommend that you only get the Fisheye as a second lens. The Wide is extremely useful, the Fisheye is a special purpose lens (but it is nice quality and is sharp). For a tele lens Moment makes a 2x tele, but I own the Sirui 60mm it is also a 2x tele lens. Since the Note 8 has a 2x camera module, why would you want a 2x lens? Because you can use it on the primary, higher quality camera module in lower light. The Sirui is sharper than the Moment 2x. It is very sharp. The Sirui can use the Moment case because it has a lens mount that is very similar to the Moment lens mount.
If I was only going to buy one lens, it would be the new Moment Wide. But, the new Moment Wide and the Sirui 60mm is a nice combination because it gives you three focal lengths to use. The standard lens in the Note 8 and the two additional lenses.
I don't know if you are shooting stills or video. For video I also have a DJI Osmo Mobile gimbal and two Moment counterweight (50 g., 100 g.) so I can use the lenses on the gimbal and still balance the extra weight of the lenses. This combo can create very smooth/stable video.
Good luck.
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Hi ... I am a photographer that picked up a few lenses for my Note 8. I have the new Moment Wide from Moment. I also have their case for the Note 8 to mount the lens. It is very sharp and has excellent image quality. I can recommend it. I also own the Moment Fisheye (ultra wide lens). I would recommend that you only get the Fisheye as a second lens. The Wide is extremely useful, the Fisheye is a special purpose lens (but it is nice quality and is sharp). For a tele lens Moment makes a 2x tele, but I own the Sirui 60mm it is also a 2x tele lens. Since the Note 8 has a 2x camera module, why would you want a 2x lens? Because you can use it on the primary, higher quality camera module in lower light. The Sirui is sharper than the Moment 2x. It is very sharp. The Sirui can use the Moment case because it has a lens mount that is very similar to the Moment lens mount.
If I was only going to buy one lens, it would be the new Moment Wide. But, the new Moment Wide and the Sirui 60mm is a nice combination because it gives you three focal lengths to use. The standard lens in the Note 8 and the two additional lenses.
I don't know if you are shooting stills or video. For video I also have a DJI Osmo Mobile gimbal and two Moment counterweight (50 g., 100 g.) so I can use the lenses on the gimbal and still balance the extra weight of the lenses. This combo can create very smooth/stable video.
Good luck.
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Can u post some pics please
Techvir said:
Can u post some pics please
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The Moment site has many sample photos of the Moment Wide lens; here is the link:
https://www.shopmoment.com/momentist
You can switch between the standard camera lens and the Moment Wide without any loss of sharpness. Images will be of similar sharpness, just much wider. The Sirui 60mm tele has sharpness and rendering that is similar to the Moment Wide.
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Hi ... I am a photographer that picked up a few lenses for my Note 8. I have the new Moment Wide from Moment. I also have their case for the Note 8 to mount the lens. It is very sharp and has excellent image quality. I can recommend it. I also own the Moment Fisheye (ultra wide lens). I would recommend that you only get the Fisheye as a second lens. The Wide is extremely useful, the Fisheye is a special purpose lens (but it is nice quality and is sharp). For a tele lens Moment makes a 2x tele, but I own the Sirui 60mm it is also a 2x tele lens. Since the Note 8 has a 2x camera module, why would you want a 2x lens? Because you can use it on the primary, higher quality camera module in lower light. The Sirui is sharper than the Moment 2x. It is very sharp. The Sirui can use the Moment case because it has a lens mount that is very similar to the Moment lens mount.
If I was only going to buy one lens, it would be the new Moment Wide. But, the new Moment Wide and the Sirui 60mm is a nice combination because it gives you three focal lengths to use. The standard lens in the Note 8 and the two additional lenses.
I don't know if you are shooting stills or video. For video I also have a DJI Osmo Mobile gimbal and two Moment counterweight (50 g., 100 g.) so I can use the lenses on the gimbal and still balance the extra weight of the lenses. This combo can create very smooth/stable video.
Good luck.
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Can you post the model of the different lens ?
Anyone know if they make a 4x or an 8x lense for the Note 8.
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Anyone know if they make a 4x or an 8x lense for the Note 8.
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I use to ask and every seller says: "it is compatible"... I'm afraid to buy because I want one with really good quality, at least good lol.
MOMENT is the best quality lens atm ! No Regret
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/brxs28/oneplus_7_pros_telephoto_camera_is_not_3x/
Marketing nonsense from OP then?
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Batfink33 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/brxs28/oneplus_7_pros_telephoto_camera_is_not_3x/
Marketing nonsense from OP then?
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Maybe I'm misreading something but mine is going up to 10x zoom.
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Maybe I'm misreading something but mine is going up to 10x zoom.
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The optical zoom.
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The optical zoom.
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Gotcha, I just tried again with the bottom camera covered and the zoom works right up to 3x, anything over 3x and it goes black.
I have the same problem, no optical zoom, but the main camera do a digital zoom.
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Here is a demo of the cam problem at 1:23 min
https://youtu.be/UHCS4iKEmYc
Mulitple things going on here. First off the camera switches between the normal camera cropped for 3x to the tele camera depending on the lighting condtions. You can test this yourself using different lighting conditions and your finger in front of the various lenses. Second, in order for the lenses to be 3x optical, the tele has to magnify 3x closer than another lens. All the reviews cry foul because the tele lens is about 2.2x optically stronger than the normal lens. It is however about 2.9x stronger than the wide angle lens.
So, everyone is arguing about what the optical zoom range is. My result is from my actual personal result testing output images from the cameras. In looking at this, I ignored cropping and varying MP of each camera. I believe the total zoom range of the system to be 3x.
This was out 3 days ago. They've already got responses from OnePlus. It's a 2.2x optical zoom. It's in the post processing that they crop the image to make it 3x. It is 3x lossless zoom actually. So it's just as sharp and no degradation of quality.
To me, the image quality is the same so it really doesn't matter much how they get it to 3x as long as it's lossless it's all good
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So it's just as sharp and no degradation of quality.
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This made me smile as the photo quality is really extremely sub par, without using GCam that is,
Unless one is into water paintings, in that case this phone is a must have.
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This made me smile as the photo quality is really extremely sub par, without using GCam that is,
Unless one is into water paintings, in that case this phone is a must have.
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I never said it was tack sharp I just said the 3x tele is lossless from the crop. I know the 3x lens needs much improved post processing
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This was out 3 days ago. They've already got responses from OnePlus. It's a 2.2x optical zoom. It's in the post processing that they crop the image to make it 3x. It is 3x lossless zoom actually. So it's just as sharp and no degradation of quality.
To me, the image quality is the same so it really doesn't matter much how they get it to 3x as long as it's lossless it's all good
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It is a bad design if 2.2x-2.9x zoom is digital crop
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It is a bad design if 2.2x-2.9x zoom is digital crop
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Never said it wasn't. I said the crop is lossless . Lossless means from the 2.2x-3x not that is the same as a 3x optical
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Never said it wasn't. I said the crop is lossless . Lossless means from the 2.2x-3x not that is the same as a 3x optical
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2.2-2.9x is not lossless if it uses digital zoom of primary lens. Even if the primary lens use the full resolution
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2.2-2.9x is not lossless if it uses digital zoom of primary lens. Even if the primary lens use the full resolution
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You can but I don't have time or the energy to explain it to you.
The whole measure of "x times" zoom is marketing nonsense to begin with. All this means, is a ratio of that particular lens' longest focal length to its shortest focal length. It doesn't really mean much. For instance, my 70-200mm DSLR lens "only" has a 2.8x zoom. Yet the "reach" of this lens is so much greater than any smartphone, that it is comical to even compare the zoom this way!
This "spec" is only useful for folks that compare and buy things based on those specs (or companies to market to such people), instead of real world experiences. The phone takes some nice pictures, and happens to zoom and do some other useful things. That's all I really care about.
The zoom focal length is also not of much use without knowing the film or sensor size. It used to be that cameras all shot 35mm film and the focal range meant something. Today a 70mm lens is quite worthless shooting indoors compared to the wide angle on even the 7pro.
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The zoom focal length is also not of much use without knowing the film or sensor size. It used to be that cameras all shot 35mm film and the focal range meant something.
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A full frame DSLR sensor measures 35mm. The focal lengths for full frame DSLR (and full frame mirrorless cameras) lenses still mean the same as they always have. Even on smaller sensors for "real cameras" the focal length is still meaningful, if you take crop factor into account.
The tiny sensors (around 4mm) on smartphones are a different animal. The focal length on these smartphone lenses are around 1-4mm. They often speak of "35mm equivalent" focal lengths when looking at camera specs. But it's a bit ridiculous. The fisheye affect is so drastic at such a focal length, that there really is no "35mm equivalent" not matter how small the sensor.
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Today a 70mm lens is quite worthless shooting indoors compared to the wide angle on even the 7pro.
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That completely depends on your subject matter. I usually photograph people (face shots). The 70-200mm lens rarely leaves my camera, indoors or out. Many portrait photographers will tell you the same. 50-85mm is the minimum focal length considered acceptable for portraiture (not making a person's nose look huge, for example) by many photographers. Obviously, that range is too long a focal length for things like group shots, whole rooms (like you example) etc. But that is what interchangeable lenses are for.
Yep and since you can often swap full frame lenses into micro formats there is really no assumption that can be made other than the overall range of a lens.
It's ironic that selfie cameras are probably the worst equipped to shoot people. Smart of OnePlus to use the back tele lens for portrait. In effect the 7pro has interchangeable back lenses. Still not what my dslr or high end compact cameras deliver but impressive none the less.
I'm so disappointed in the photos from the telephoto lenses of this camera. Even at 1x, there is so much noise in every photo, even in outdoors on a sunny day everything looks like an oil painting. Did they give me a faulty device because I got a student discount (costed $1360 AUD 256GB) is this a common issue? Pretty disappointed with the camera of this "flagship" phone...
The photos are 1x, 1x cropped, 10x and 19x zoom.
I'm not seeing an issue.
The last one looks like cam shake and/or a bad AF lock.
The thing is even when holding still taking photos the post processing always oversharpens it and makes it noisy
Tristan17 said:
The thing is even when holding still taking photos the post processing always oversharpens it and makes it noisy
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Digital zoom sucks but look at the size of the optics. It's no L70-200 f/2.8 IS telephoto!
Shooting RAW will get rid of that... or at least you can with post editing.
Samsung doesn't have good photo editing tools, that pisses me.
My stupid S4 had a better photo editor than my 10+ which has none. WTF?
Maybe I'm missing something... probably not
That's fair but I wish they didn't oversharpen every photo, it would look much better like gcam does a way better job
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That's fair but I wish they didn't oversharpen every photo, it would look much better like gcam does a way better job
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That cam should be better than my 10+.
The 10+ does an excellent job, but digital zoom is not one of them.
Close the distance. Know the limitations of the camera; see the world as it does and your photos will improve immensely.
Even with pro equipment this is true.
Look at the stunning photos grabbed over a century plus ago with very limited technology.
A good camera helps but in the end it's more about who's shooting.
True thanks
Relax and enjoy it...
Try wide angle on a brick house or a picket fence and see how it does. Two of my favorite test subjects after people.
Don't enable vivid in screen mode if that's an option as it blows out colors.
Yeah I've got my screen set to amoled photo and I have gotten some good photos already thanks for the feedback
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Nice to see another Orient here...
Wow nice man it's a great watch haha
Yall old timers!
P. S. Just kiddin, the older ones look superb!
I totally agree with the OP, the S21U camera is definitely not a 2021 flagship camera. 10x zoom softens the image like crazy (everything becomes hazy & lacks of contrast) and the noise in all cameras is too much, especially in low light conditions.
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Digital zoom sucks but look at the size of the optics. It's no L70-200 f/2.8 IS telephoto!
Shooting RAW will get rid of that... or at least you can with post editing.
Samsung doesn't have good photo editing tools, that pisses me.
My stupid S4 had a better photo editor than my 10+ which has none. WTF?
Maybe I'm missing something... probably not
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I recommend you try Snapseed app (free, owned by Google), have look on YouTube for videos on Snapseed and you'll see how good it is at editing photos
Snapseed is indeed a great editor!
And all of you guys who are hating on the ZOOM cameras of the phone, ya'll just don't understand how lenses and cameras work in general, that's why the s21U cams annoy you. Especially in low light... It is absolutely normal and it is still better than anything else at this size and functionality.
The fact that you have this kinda photo power in a phone in 2021 is in it self amazing.
In general I think that S21 Ultra have most versatile camera setup in market (at least at the moment when I've ordered phone), but sometimes I've had that feeling that details are not the best e.g. when zooming some photos. I guess it's exynos thing, because details are better on snapdragon versions.
BTW I'm happy to see so many Orient owners.
I did a video comparing the S20u vs S21u cameras and it's VERY subjective. Some of the shots on the S20u are better, some on the S21u are better, but all in all, they both don't compare to an actual camera, yet still blow away any other phone by comparison.
The biggest downfall I see is when people bash on the zoom lens, saying it's grainy.. and it's like.. yeah.. can any other phone out there even come close to a focal range this thing has? It's still a further reach zoom than anything else regardless of quality which is only improving between the S20u and S21u when it comes to zoom.
Which you can see that the image processing on the zoom lens out of the box on the S21u is worse than the S20u, but the clarity at further reach on the s21u pulls ahead over the s20u
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Snapseed is indeed a great editor!
And all of you guys who are hating on the ZOOM cameras of the phone, ya'll just don't understand how lenses and cameras work in general, that's why the s21U cams annoy you. Especially in low light... It is absolutely normal and it is still better than anything else at this size and functionality.
The fact that you have this kinda photo power in a phone in 2021 is in it self amazing.
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Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. I have been shooting with slrs and dslrs for decades, also owning numerous lenses, so I guess I know a bit about photography hardware. Yet again, I am not comparing apples to oranges, namely dslr quality with S21U quality, but instead comparing S21U quality with my 2020 p40 pro photos and believe me there is a HUGE gap over there. The p40 pro was a 2020 flagship and it's photo quality is miles ahead the S21U in various aspects, the most important being low light performance in all cameras, as well as zoom quality etc. Had the p40 pro not been a deal breaker due to no GMS (huawei USA ban etc), I would not change the device for the S21U. I did know though that there would of been a small downgrade in photo quality when I decided to switch to S21U, yet hoped for a good trade off with the 10x zoom instead of 5x, as well as a true uw lens, as compared to the merely uw on the p40 pro (18mm only), but we are talking about a huge difference over here in terms of quality,i mean, even my previous p20 pro which was a 2018 device was capturing much more detail in low light, yet still noise free.
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Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. I have been shooting with slrs and dslrs for decades, also owning numerous lenses, so I guess I know a bit about photography hardware. Yet again, I am not comparing apples to oranges, namely dslr quality with S21U quality, but instead comparing S21U quality with my 2020 p40 pro photos and believe me there is a HUGE gap over there. The p40 pro was a 2020 flagship and it's photo quality is miles ahead the S21U in various aspects, the most important being low light performance in all cameras, as well as zoom quality etc. Had the p40 pro not been a deal breaker due to no GMS (huawei USA ban etc), I would not change the device for the S21U. I did know though that there would of been a small downgrade in photo quality when I decided to switch to S21U, yet hoped for a good trade off with the 10x zoom instead of 5x, as well as a true uw lens, as compared to the merely uw on the p40 pro (18mm only), but we are talking about a huge difference over here in terms of quality,i mean, even my previous p20 pro which was a 2018 device was capturing much more detail in low light, yet still noise free.
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When I spoke of cameras and lenses, it is because I too have such tech and like photography.
And honestly, the Huawei just seems to have a different post-processing. Which amps up the "structure" a bit and makes things appeared deeper and more detailed. But that's just my 2 cents. Maybe I am wrong.