Hi Guys,
I am currently on official ROM on my Redmi 4X. I want to install custom ROM. I want stability and security
Could someone please suggest the best ROM I should opt for ?
Android 9 based ROMs are more stable than Android 10 but that doesn't meant Android 10 ROMs are not much stable but Android 9 may not have latest security patch. it depends upon your need.
I would suggest you for Havoc OS both based on Android 9 and Android 10.
Just last month Redmi 4X got 4.9 kernel and many Android 10 ROMs started supporting it which is great. in my opinion you should give it a try on latest Havoc OS.
If you want a custom roms for a daily use then Lineage os 16 is the answer. Yes Los dosnt have any "awesome" extra feature but it is very stable and secure. Another good rom for daily use is Pixel Experience.
The two rom I mention may not offer crazy customization, awesome "extra features" or the most up to date kernel (4.9) but for daily usage they are the best imo.
I use Los 16 with no root (22 april build), its clean, light and quick. Most importantly I'm lucky enough to pass the safetynet with it so I can use my device for banking, pokemon go, netlflix, snapchat and many others.
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FYI if you want to use a custom rom you must prepare yourself to not be able to use banking app. Even if you dont root your device you may not be able to pass the safetynet on a custom rom. Safetynet is what google use to check wheter your device is "safe" or not. Of course you can find a some workaround to "bypass" the safetynet but I wouldn't recommend you to do it because it may pose a security concern.
art_17 said:
If you want a custom roms for a daily use then Lineage os 16 is the answer. Yes Los dosnt have any "awesome" extra feature but it is very stable and secure. Another good rom for daily use is Pixel Experience.
The two rom I mention may not offer crazy customization, awesome "extra features" or the most up to date kernel (4.9) but for daily usage they are the best imo.
I use Los 16 with no root (22 april build), its clean, light and quick. Most importantly I'm lucky enough to pass the safetynet with it so I can use my device for banking, pokemon go, netlflix, snapchat and many others.
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FYI if you want to use a custom rom you must prepare yourself to not be able to use banking app. Even if you dont root your device you may not be able to pass the safetynet on a custom rom. Safetynet is what google use to check wheter your device is "safe" or not. Of course you can find a some workaround to "bypass" the safetynet but I wouldn't recommend you to do it because it may pose a security concern.
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Really appreciate your suggestion.
I also narrowed down to Linage OS 16 and pixel experience ROM. I have some follow up question:-
1- You mean other custom ROMs may not be able to pass the safety net. But linage OS 16 able to pass safety net, right?
2- I saw official page but not thread on XDA for official linage OS 16? You directly refereed to official page?
3- Have you tried latest (10th June) build of Linage 10 OS?
3- I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
metelhammer said:
Android 9 based ROMs are more stable than Android 10 but that doesn't meant Android 10 ROMs are not much stable but Android 9 may not have latest security patch. it depends upon your need.
I would suggest you for Havoc OS both based on Android 9 and Android 10.
Just last month Redmi 4X got 4.9 kernel and many Android 10 ROMs started supporting it which is great. in my opinion you should give it a try on latest Havoc OS.
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Thanks for suggestion !
What about the Finger print error people are talking about in every android 10 based ROM, is there any solution?
Can you please give me any more details /reference link about 4.9 kernel?
abhishekarora said:
Really appreciate your suggestion.
I also narrowed down to Linage OS 16. I have two follow up question:-
1- You mean other custom ROMs may not be able to pass the safety net. But linage OS 16 able to pass safety net, right?
2- I saw official page but not thread on XDA for official linage OS? You directly refereed to official page?
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1. No, most rom "should" be able to pass the safetynet if you don't root it. But.. it doesnt mean 100% you can pass. Even if you use the same rom as me it doesn't mean you'll pass. In the end it all boils down to "how and what u use" to flash the rom and luck. Im speaking from personal experience. Not long ago in another device, I changed to a custom rom and I cant pass the safetynet even tho I dont root it.
Fyi I just changed to Pixel Experience plus in my redmi 4x and I'm still able to pass the safetynet. It's luck really.
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...t/rom-2017-08-07lineage-14-1-t3653016/page262
This is the official page for Lineage OS, the title of the thread isnt updated yet but it is the official thread for Los 16.
art_17 said:
1. No, most rom "should" be able to pass the safetynet if you don't root it. But.. it doesnt mean 100% you can pass. Even if you use the same rom as me it doesn't mean you'll pass. In the end it all boils down to "how and what u use" to flash the rom and luck. Im speaking from personal experience. Not long ago in another device, I changed to a custom rom and I cant pass the safetynet even tho I dont root it.
Fyi I just changed to Pixel Experience plus in my redmi 4x and I'm still able to pass the safetynet. It's luck really.
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...t/rom-2017-08-07lineage-14-1-t3653016/page262
This is the official page for Lineage OS, the title of the thread isnt updated yet but it is the official thread for Los 16.
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Which version of pixel Experience plus you have? have fingerprint issue or any other issue?
I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
abhishekarora said:
Which version of pixel Experience plus you have? have fingerprint issue or any other issue?
I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
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Sorry I didnt see question 3 n 4...
3. Yes I tried the 10th june build of Los 16 before switching to pe plus (android 10). The 10th june build as far as I'm aware of is almost the same with the 22th april build. It just have the newest security update and under the hood improvements.
I have 2/16 redmi 4x with goodix fingerprints. I dont have any fingerprints issue with the newest official pixel experience plus. I have tried other android 10 custom roms briefly and I dont see any issue with fingerprints. Ironically when I installed Los 16 (22 april build) my finger print dont work, I restored my persist backup to fix it. No matter what dont forget to back up everything.
I dont have official pixel experience pie. But I do have an unofficial pixel experience plus pie(android 9), I have not tried this rom yet but If you want I can share it.
abhishekarora said:
Thanks for suggestion !
What about the Finger print error people are talking about in every android 10 based ROM, is there any solution?
Can you please give me any more details /reference link about 4.9 kernel?
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There were issue with Goodix fingerprint sensor but as far as i remember it's been solved. my device has FPC fingerprint sensor so had no such issues.
I haven't seen anyone complaining about fingerprint sensor in recent few weeks so i can say it is working fine.
If there is any ROM specific issue with fingerprint that someone talking then i don't know because currently i am on Havoc 2.9 and since last week i haven't checked respected ROMs threads and its discussions as i was busy.
4.9 Kernel been added to Redmi 4X which is greatest thing ever could have happened with device, actually i wasn't expecting it as Redmi 4X is almost a 3 years old device.
4.9 kernel improves overall performance of device and basically you can expect even longer support for Redmi 4X in the future.
here is link, learn more here -> https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-3-18-reaches-end-of-life-users-urged-to-move-to-linux-4-9-or-4-4-512755.shtml
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Sorry I didnt see question 3 n 4...
3. Yes I tried the 10th june build of Los 16 before switching to pe plus (android 10). The 10th june build as far as I'm aware of is almost the same with the 22th april build. It just have the newest security update and under the hood improvements.
I have 2/16 redmi 4x with goodix fingerprints. I dont have any fingerprints issue with the newest official pixel experience plus. I have tried other android 10 custom roms briefly and I dont see any issue with fingerprints. Ironically when I installed Los 16 (22 april build) my finger print dont work, I restored my persist backup to fix it. No matter what dont forget to back up everything.
I dont have official pixel experience pie. But I do have an unofficial pixel experience plus pie(android 9), I have not tried this rom yet but If you want I can share it.
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Thanks for answering all the question !
I prefer the official one.
How is the battery back up and overall experience on newest official pixel experience plus?
metelhammer said:
There were issue with Goodix fingerprint sensor but as far as i remember it's been solved. my device has FPC fingerprint sensor so had no such issues.
I haven't seen anyone complaining about fingerprint sensor in recent few weeks so i can say it is working fine.
If there is any ROM specific issue with fingerprint that someone talking then i don't know because currently i am on Havoc 2.9 and since last week i haven't checked respected ROMs threads and its discussions as i was busy.
4.9 Kernel been added to Redmi 4X which is greatest thing ever could have happened with device, actually i wasn't expecting it as Redmi 4X is almost a 3 years old device.
4.9 kernel improves overall performance of device and basically you can expect even longer support for Redmi 4X in the future.
here is link, learn more here -> https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-3-18-reaches-end-of-life-users-urged-to-move-to-linux-4-9-or-4-4-512755.shtml
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Thanks man !
abhishekarora said:
Thanks for answering all the question !
I prefer the official one.
How is the battery back up and overall experience on newest official pixel experience plus?
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After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Pros:
- as expected, it has more features than Los
- google assistant is quite usable
- surprisingly I don't see much difference in battery life compared to lineage os.
- overall it's pretty good and stable ROM
Cons:
- now I'm using havoc os because it can't read my third Sim card(it can read my other two just fine)
- Small font, the biggest font size it has is still smaller than the default font size in LOS. This issue affects me pretty heavily because I do hours of reading in my phone. In Los I can read for whole days without problems. But in PE after only reading for few hours I'm already at my limit.
Summary: PE is pretty good. But unfortunately it can't read one of my sim.
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
art_17 said:
After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Pros:
- as expected, it has more features than Los
- google assistant is quite usable
- surprisingly I don't see much difference in battery life compared to lineage os.
- overall it's pretty good and stable ROM
Cons:
- now I'm using havoc os because it can't read my third Sim card(it can read my other two just fine)
- Small font, the biggest font size it has is still smaller than the default font size in LOS. This issue affects me pretty heavily because I do hours of reading in my phone. In Los I can read for whole days without problems. But in PE after only reading for few hours I'm already at my limit.
Summary: PE is pretty good. But unfortunately it can't read one of my sim.
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
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Hi,
I finally decided to go with official lineage OS 16.1. Can you pls check me steps? Because, I am hearing lot about persist backups? fingerprint issue etc.
How to take persist backup?
Should I also take ROM backup using TWRP?
1- Unlock boot loader using official Mi software.
2- Flash recovery to TWRP
3- Wipe everything
4- Install ROM
5- Install Gapps
abhishekarora said:
Hi,
I finally decided to go with official lineage OS 16.1. Can you pls check me steps? Because, I am hearing lot about persist backups? fingerprint issue etc.
How to take persist backup?
Should I also take ROM backup using TWRP?
1- Unlock boot loader using official Mi software.
2- Flash recovery to TWRP
3- Wipe everything
4- Install ROM
5- Install Gapps
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Yup...
0. Pick a day where you're absolutely sure you wont need to use your device for a whole day.
1. Unlock bootloader (I unlock my device unofficially cuz I hate waiting period. But I still recommend you to do it the official way).
2. Flash twrp (or any other custom recovery you like)
4. Back up everything via custom recovery. It may take up to 11 gb of storage so make sure you have more than enough free storage in your external sd card. If you dont have enough storage just backup everything except system partition which take a LOT of storage.
5.PRAY TO GOD
5.1. Use lucky charm(s)
5.2. - 5.9. Do everything you think may help with ur luck
6. Wipe Everything
7. Flash rom & gapps(if it isnt included in rom).
9. Reboot.
10. Enjoy... or not.
Note:
- it is what it is. Do it at your own risk.
- if ur fingerprint dont work and nothing happens even tho youve restored your persist back up. Go to thread about Los 16 fingerprind doesnt work created by me, there I gave link to a solution that works for my device.
- If 30-60 minute passes n ur phone hasnt boot then your phone maybe stuck in a bootloop. Go to twrp and reflash or try another rom. For me it usually takes less than 10 minutes to boot.
- if ur phone suddenly dies n you cant boot, fastboot or go to recovery. First, calm down. Take the back of the phone off carefully (you dont want to accidentally tore the fingerprint cable off). Try disconnect your battery from the phone n reconnect it. Then try go to fastboot or recovery.
- if reconnecting the battery dont work use edl mode (just search for edl mode redmi 4x for a guide).
- If edl mode dont work go to phone service. If they cant fix it just buy a new phone.
art_17 said:
After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
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Hi, sorry to bother you. Do you think you can upload the recovery you mentioned? Looks like the original link has died.
abhishekarora said:
Hi Guys,
I am currently on official ROM on my Redmi 4X. I want to install custom ROM. I want stability and security
Could someone please suggest the best ROM I should opt for ?
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Don't do bro....Just stick on official rom... Otherwise you will.regret yourself later
LonerDarke said:
Hi, sorry to bother you. Do you think you can upload the recovery you mentioned? Looks like the original link has died.
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Sure...
TWRP unofficial by pranaya 2005 https://mega.nz/file/PhJAhahC#tRILgEtwDor6X_nwt1-O8v9kxcYGJ1jZJHCOrN7WZ7M
which havoc os version you are using on redmi 4 ?
I Am facing lot of problems with custom Rom such as usb not connecting to pc,middle touch not functioning , calls not working . I've done factory reset my device and everything working fine except phone not connecting to pc.
I don't know how i am possibly going to unlock bootloader it it's not going to connect pc.
i've updated pc driver and work through all solution, i think the problem is with miui stock rom 11 update as the same issue is posted on other threads.
I'm afraid I will also need to switch to a Custom ROM sooner or later, although my experience with santoni Custom ROMs was not too good. There was always something broken - be it Deep Sleep, GPS fix or fingerprint sensor.
At the moment I am trying to decide between
Resurrection Remix 8.6.x (Android 10)
Havoc OS 3.8 (Android 10)
AICP 15.0 (Android 10) - although an older version ~1 yr ago did not work too well
LineageOS 16.0 (Android 9)
and don't know what to choose. Stability and battery runtime are most important, I also need some basic customization, but no senseless bulls**t like animated unicorns running over the screen or things like that.
Which of the beforementioned work(s) well?
If someone still reads this...
I've tried RR and Havoc. I liked both and did not find any major bugs during my short tests, but the fact that full device encryption did not work is a big no-go.
Now I'm on LineageOS 16.0 official (with older Android 9) and despite the fact that there could be some more features and customization possibilities I am very satisfied with stability and performance. Encryption worked when formatting userdata with OrangeFox-R11.0_0-Stable-santoni and afterwards using OrangeFox-R10.0_3-Stable-santoni.
I'm seeing popular ROMs like EvoX and ArrowOS having official builds running on Android 13, and I'm curious how can I get them running on my Note 10 Pro, so any idea how to flash them on TWRP?
BMHater12 said:
I'm seeing popular ROMs like EvoX and ArrowOS having official builds running on Android 13, and I'm curious how can I get them running on my Note 10 Pro, so any idea how to flash them on TWRP?
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Install lIke always ???
:: download image, boot to twrp, clear relevant partitions ( see thousands threads before ), install .zip or image of rom, maybe install gapps and magisk , etc.
Go through the advertisements, but first understand whats going on , before you brick your device
Good luck !
hanichl said:
Install lIke always ???
:: download image, boot to twrp, clear relevant partitions ( see thousands threads before ), install .zip or image of rom, maybe install gapps and magisk , etc.
Go through the advertisements, but first understand whats going on , before you brick your device
Good luck !
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There's one catch, you apparently need an Android 11 build of TWRP to flash Android 13 mods, due to odd issues on Android 12 TWRP builds
Hi ; ) ,
Best android 13 rom official & unofficial for redmi note 10 pro ? Thanks
gumish93 said:
Hi ; ) ,
Best android 13 rom official & unofficial for redmi note 10 pro ? Thanks
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I think that the only person who can answer You is Yourself, by installing and testing each of the beta version of the 3 roms Android 13 existing at this moment for the Redmi Note 10 Pro.
Why ?
It’s a bit early as these 3 A13 roms are very recent and no many persons have already tested them.
I installed once Arrows 13, I find this rom very promising but I can’t use it as daily driver because I’m missing features which I have with A12 crDroid like separate volume for phone and notifications, 2 buttons navigation, advanced restart, MIUI camera, …
The download link for the second one seems to be not available for the moment.
The third one is total new (today) and the download link for the Redmi Note 10 Pro seems not to be yet loaded.
The best for You is either try by yourself or wait some time for having the advice of other users.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-beta-arrowos-android-13-sweet.4481935/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-13-sweet-official-evolution-x-08-25-22.4395847/
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I can't help You more as I'm not an expert, neither an accurate tester.
gumish93 said:
Hi ; ) ,
Best android 13 rom official & unofficial for redmi note 10 pro ? Thanks
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All depends of what you are expecting of the rom.
This morning I installed for the second time the last version of "Android 13 Project Elixir" on XDA forum :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ir-official-thirteen-aosp-05-09-2022.4489275/.
I gave my opinion about it (see and read last post of the thread Elixir).
The only point about which I will never discuss is the battery draining bacause it depends not only from the rom but also of the way you are using your smartphone and from the applications you have installed and are using.
Most, if not all, android 13 custom roms are still wip regarding the customisation, almost barebone. Miui camera might get ported to a13 once every bugs has been squished, meanwhile gcam should be a better alternative (see the dedicated thread about it). My advice: sticks to a12 until all customisation has been migrated to a13, unless you're willing to be a tester.
Hello,
after two month of normal using without any experiments or flashing / rooting my Redmi Note 11 stuck in an endless bootloop similar as descriped here: Xiaomi Note 11 stuck to rebooting into recovery mode 5.0 after unlocking the screen
I was not able to do any recovery so I ended up to wipe all data and now the phone is booting normal and can be used again.
But befor I'm going to start setting up my phone again from the scratch (because Google backup did not work) I would prefer to use a custom rom without all of these ****ty MUI apps like cloud, video and pdf viewer and round about 7 billion other apps which are anoying me with endless popup messages and registration requests.
This will be my first try to install a custom rom but I already found this tutorial: [GUIDE] How To Install A Custom Rom On Redmi Note 11
First of all thanks for the work of this tutorial I think this will help me doing the first steps.
So here is the question:
Is there any working stock Android 13 custom rom for the Redmi Note 11 without any unneccessary extra stuff?
seems that crDroid could be close to what I want: [ROM][OFFICIAL][12.1-13.0] crDroidAndroid 8.x - 9.x [SPES|SPESN]
what would you suggest to me?
thanks and regards
Stefan
Hi Stefen,
Seeing as how long it has taken Xiaomi to get Android 12 to our devices via OTA, and even there it appears most have STILL not recieved A12 via ota and have had to force the update...
It's unlikely we'll see Android 13 / A13 anytime soon.... I reckon we won't see stock Android 13 for at least another year or more...
Not to say we won't get it, as our devices are supposedly supported to A13 and Miui 14.... but based on timescales, we're a long way off yet...
Cheers, Lister
ah ok, thanks for the clarification. I thought Android 13 is possible yet.
So I guess the right question is: is there a clean stock Android 12 for the phone?
Hi Stefan,
No probs, depends on you're build of current official stock rom. The easiest way to find out, is download the Miui Downloader from PlayStore.
Then head to this page, and find the appropriate rom for your current rom.
This Windows app, will also help you find what you need....
Thanks, Lister
I think the xiaomi.eu roms are debloated but it's still miui
thomas1991_12 said:
I think the xiaomi.eu roms are debloated but it's still miui
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Xiaomi.eu performs better than stock MIUI but worse than AOSP custom ROMs. Based on my experience with 13.0,5, it took almost a minute to boot whereas with Evo X 13 and PE+13, it boots half a minute
Can you use stock camera with AOSP roms?
thomas1991_12 said:
Can you use stock camera with AOSP roms?
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not yet, there develops and mods, but not completly functional
Hello there, i am using redmi note 9/10x 4g currently on miui 13 Android 12 and I wanted to install a custom rom in it.. so anyone could please give me a full guide on start to end.. i have already unlocked my bootloader and k want to install a custom recovery and after that a custom rom.. so please someone give me a full guide for this miui version..
Thanks in advance..
First of all, it depends on what ROM you would like to use. I use Project Elixir which is based on Pixel Experience. The maintainer is no longer active so you rely on yourself. The newest 3.4 version requires MIUI 12.5.4 Global (or EEA if you end up with a soft brick) as it's based on the R vendor rather than the S vendor. You can find all other information either on the GitHub or Telegram group. (Yes, feels weird to use Telegram) Here's the quick guide https://github.com/ProjectElixir-Devices/Wiki/blob/tiramisu/merlinx.md
Redmi Note 9 has a codename merlinx in this case as there's already a Motorola phone with a codename merlin and many people were fooled and got their phones hard bricked. Since this is a MediaTek chipset, you don't have any A/B partitions. If you don't follow the guide or flash the required firmware, you will end up with a beautiful error, maybe even a permanent one. The easiest way for me to flash the ROM from the crdroid recovery was the ADB Sideload method as my SD Card wasn't picked up by the recovery. Make sure you have a reliable USB connection that won't get interrupted during the update. You may find a lot of missing stuff and glitches in the ROM like purple battery indicator when in landscape mode, random freezes, a stock battery widget is broken (Android 13 build issue in general) and so more. There's no custom battery indicator when charging on a full shutdown. You will have a default MIUI one.