Root vs Not (better to not?) - Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions & Answers

Alright guys, I've been out of this for a while. Actually...I'm on my rooted Note 7 right now lol.
So I'm looking for user input on what I can still do if not rooted? Phone comes tomorrow btw.
What I'm most interested in is what can still be done without root.... Disabling/freezing apps? Changing notification layout/symbols? Etc.
I know about the 80% charge thing... Could that ever be bypassed btw?
I know this is kind of a big question but I haven't had to do anything since rooting the 7 and I've been sitting here waiting for the 8. There's just so much to catch up on so I'm hoping you guys can help me either understand more of what's new or just give your .02
Thanks all!
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Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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I agree with Saafir! It all about your preference. I have the Note 8 rooted for testing purposes. It is not a true root and a lot of the rooted apps do not work. Plus you cannot have a custom recovery since the boot loader cannot be unlocked at the moment.

Saafir said:
Personal preference really. You can do just about as much without root as you can with. You can always try root out and go back if you wish. This root method does not permanently break Samsung Pay, so Odin back to stock if not satisfied. I haven't rooted since the last OTA update. Mainly because it's a wonky method. If it was true root, I would say go for it hands down... but yeaaa
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Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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jlechner said:
Does going back to stock bring back 100% charging?
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I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.

fogame said:
I believe it does. Haven't seen any reports of it not going back to 100% when going back to stock.
I personally have not rooted. There are ways to do what I need to do without root. Just make sure that if you choose to root and will be using the SamFail v2.5 root method, read all that you can and search. Try not to ask questions over there unless they haven't been asked. You will get flamed big time.
Don't mind helping if you get stuck somewhere.
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Roger that.
Yeah, thankfully this wouldn't be my first root rodeo by any means.
I mostly use root for bloatware removal and a handful of xposed modules. Xposed isn't working yet anyways so hopefully there'll be a future with that (or at least some form of alternatives.)
Thanks for the info guys!
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Me personally i love rooting my phones to get a personal touch. But for once I really don't need to root this phone right now. Because i can still get the hotspot for f*** and use nova for a different launcher and they have most things for me to customize like screen savers, different ringers get rid of some annoying toasts popups except for the vol up warning which I can live with. Plus the Samsung pay is the deal breaker for me right now for rooting. Because it is convenient especially when I forget my wallet while at work or a quick run to the junk food store. Till there is a work around like on the note 4 for android pay I used to own before I upgraded to the 8 I'll be a lame stockboy.
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There Is no need to root the n8.. but give it a try .. my two cents is the device seem slower and the apps that you install for root you wouldn't really miss. The Pro of rooting is you can change system files around to your liking and add futures that normal you wouldn't get for free. For example, I would have to pay Sprint to use spam identifier caller ID that normally Samsung would give you for free....

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[Q] Noob question

I admit it, I'm a noob. Now once all the finger pointing and snikering subsides, I have a question........well maybe more of an opinion poll. I recently upgraded from a Motorola Droid Pro to a Motorola Droid 4. I did not root my pro because I was afraid of bricking it and now with the 4 I have the same concerns. The only reasons for my interest in rooting is: getting rid of "bloatware", battery life improvement (if possible), speed, and in general just because it can be done (for the "stick it to the man" enjoyment) Is rooting my Droid 4 a good option for me for no more than what I'm looking to do with a rooted phone? FYI I have never rooted any device and I do not want to do it if I can never go back to stock.
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I admit it, I'm a noob. Now once all the finger pointing and snikering subsides, I have a question........well maybe more of an opinion poll. I recently upgraded from a Motorola Droid Pro to a Motorola Droid 4. I did not root my pro because I was afraid of bricking it and now with the 4 I have the same concerns. The only reasons for my interest in rooting is: getting rid of "bloatware", battery life improvement (if possible), speed, and in general just because it can be done (for the "stick it to the man" enjoyment) Is rooting my Droid 4 a good option for me for no more than what I'm looking to do with a rooted phone? FYI I have never rooted any device and I do not want to do it if I can never go back to stock.
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I say go for it. Rooting the D4 is pretty painless using the D4 Utility, even for a "noob". If you root you can use something like Titanium Backup Pro to freeze bloatware (don't delete it) which could, potentially, help you in terms of battery life and speed. Just rooting is pretty risk free. You are still technically on stock and OTA updates will still work just fine. Just use the RootKeeper app to keep root when accepting an OTA. You start to worry about bricking when you get into flashing custom ROMs and leak builds. Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
.............Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
Meaning ........."proven pretty hard to brick"?
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.............Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
Meaning ........."proven pretty hard to brick"?
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Yes. Hard TO brick. LOL
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kwyrt said:
Although the D4 has proven pretty hard brick.
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I think that was more the D1. I remember when I was doing some research into buying one (back when it was new), and someone on a forum making a joke that they dropped their D1 and broke the floor
D4 is also pretty sturdy, but definitely not the tank the D1 was.
Anyway, back on topic, OP it is pretty easy to root the D4, just make sure not to *delete* the bloatware, just freeze it in Titanium Backup (or similar program), that way when the inevitable ICS OTA comes over, you can still upgrade!
Now even more concerns, my mind works overtime on stuff like this, if I root will it void my warranty, if I root can I "unroot" and return to stock? I can't afford to purchase a new one if it breaks and the warranty is no good.
andyshowfan said:
Now even more concerns, my mind works overtime on stuff like this, if I root will it void my warranty, if I root can I "unroot" and return to stock? I can't afford to purchase a new one if it breaks and the warranty is no good.
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Yes, you can unroot. D4 utility has root and unroot functions. Yes, it does technically void your warranty but I have yet to hear of someone being turned down because their phone was rooted. Especially if it's a hardware issue.
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kwyrt said:
Yes, you can unroot. D4 utility has root and unroot functions. Yes, it does technically void your warranty but I have yet to hear of someone being turned down because their phone was rooted. Especially if it's a hardware issue.
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But if it is unrooted is that not technically back to stock and they couldnt tell that it was rooted? I understnd that if its broken and cannot, lets say power on, then of course i couldnt get into it to unroot. Sry for all the questions, but i tend to over analyze things
Correct. If you unroot (and make sure the superuser app is deleted) they shouldn't be able to tell it was rooted.
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You guys are awesome, I believe I'm am comfortable with the decision to root, just got to study on exactly how to do it
andyshowfan said:
You guys are awesome, I believe I'm am comfortable with the decision to root, just got to study on exactly how to do it
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Glad we could help! Good luck!
Rooted! Installed root keeper and titanium backup pro. Have frozen several "bloatware" apps. Thanks again for all the help. Any recommended apps or other safe "good" stuff for my newly rooted phone
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Rooted! Installed root keeper and titanium backup pro. Have frozen several "bloatware" apps. Thanks again for all the help. Any recommended apps or other safe "good" stuff for my newly rooted phone
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Foxfi is a great app for free wifi tethering for rooted and unrooted phones
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[Q] Bought a seemingly rooted phone on Swappa and I'm concerned...

OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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andygev35 said:
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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andygev35 said:
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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mrkhigh said:
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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ThePorter said:
I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.
You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*
Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)

Root - Yes or No

I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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Temetka said:
No one can tell you to root. It is a decision you must make for yourself.
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I know it's my decision to do or not .
Honestly , I think it became more a habit than a necessity for most users.
1. First reason
After many years of owning latest smartphones I know very well which application I cannot live without. So after using pathed versions - for a (long) test purpose - just bought them. So - no need to root from this point.
2. Second reason
Stock UI. Been trying many ROM's with good or bad results and realised that there are never ideal custom soft for your mobile. They caused always some kind of trouble. Maybe the reason is I'm getting older and have no time to dig into system, but lately I decided to stick to preinstalled firmware and as the only modification - to change unuseful Galaxy launcher on similar Galaxy one from Play store. So again - no root needed.
And yes - I got my Note4 rooted. There are two reasons I did this:
1. To get a possibility to add any application shortcut to the bar on the right side. I know I can jump between applications by using the task touch button on the left side but I love to use the bar on the right. Much easier for me.
2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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2. To get access to my SD card. From this point root will be always needed I'm afraid.
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as far as I know Lollipop fixes the SD card Problems . Correct me if I am wrong
I'm still on Kit Kat. Was reading about SD on Lolipop and personally I think the new system SD storage improvement is dedicated to developers - not to us and our files whatever they are.
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I've rooted every android phone I have.. The note 3 took me about 8 months of non root use before I rooted to try custom ROMs.. They were great but not essential.
The note 4 running stock no root seems to be rock solid. Produces good enough performance to run anything with ease I chuck at it.. I like root apps. But deem non of them essential in my daily use of my phone. So in my opinion. This phone right now doesn't need root.
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Ive been rooting all my phones the xouple of years and tried allmost every rom. Now i have my note 4 since yesterday but i dont feel the need to root it. Its just fast the way it came with touchwiz. And for the first time i dont disturb the touchwiz it just works on this beast.
So in my opinion i shouldnt root it to make it faster.
Only thing is i cant greenify facebook becouse its a stock app. Does somebody know how i can greenify it ??
Yes
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Greenify? For battery life?
I'm gonna wait for lollipop, and then at least a few updates to that before I root.
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RoyLoy said:
I do not have root on my SM-N910F .
At this time I do not feel the need to do so.
I would like to know your opinion on this issue.
In Portugal the Knox with the value 0x1 , the equipment is not repaired under warranty.
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It depends on what you are doing with your phone. If you use mobile banking I recommend you DO NOT use root if so use as much protection as you can. With root you basically control anything - change design, control behavior of you device, control it's CPU and GPU, using different ROMs and more.
I've rooted my S4 and with awesome tools on XDA I was able to revert it and with USB jig make it totally unroot without any evidence of change.
It probably will be on Note 4 however Know could be problem.
I use root, I've SuperSU Pro and also I use Eset Antivirus. Mainly I use Xposed and fantastic X-Note ROM. Also what I love about ROOT is backup - simpy in recovery like TWRP.
Anyway it still depends on you what you wanna do with your phone. You can live without it in stock but at least Android 4.4.4. in Note 4 with Stock ROM is pretty junk on RAM.
Just a personal preference. I specifically root all my devices for two main reasons.
1 adware programs
2 hotspot
Those 2 reasons usually are the only 2 for me. The warranty thing i feel like it doesnt matter for me. I use to keep the sprint insurance on my phones and if i had a prob i could just take it and and get a replacement or repair. Sprint hasnt ever told me they wouldnt fool with my phone because it was rooted. I just bring it in with stock software and most of them dont even know what root is. I swap around phones so much now i just dropped the insurance all together because i figured i was paying 130 dollars a year with the rate increase and i wasnt benefiting from it. I hardly ever use any kind of hotspot and sprint makes u pay 20 dollars extra a month. I dont think i use it enough to justify paying that. I can go 6 months easy without using it. Its just those few and far between cases where it comes in handy.
My 2 cents
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I didn't root my Note 1 or the Sony Z Ultra but I've been looking into rooting the Note 4 due to the phone interface being far too large for the size of the phone screen, the Z Ultra was correctly scaled to suit the larger screen so it made the Note 4 feel very cramped in comparison. I've used the adb trick I found on this forum to adjust the DPI without root which largely works well, it mucks up most of the Samsung applications which is fine as they can be replaced aside from the stock camera application which is meant to get the best out of the camera. The only solution seems to be to root it and set custom application specific dpi's although I'm not finding the misaligned camera screen too much of an issue.
John
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
donkon said:
The only reason I would really love to root is :
1. xprivacy
2. Ability to use any app in multitasking mode
But still waiting on the new android
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How will rooting help privacy?
I was lazy about rooting my Note 4 for a while but as soon as I did I realized I should not have waited as long as I did. There is some really solid, stable, streamlined ROMs available right now. The lag on stock is not as noticeable until you've rooted and installed a custom ROM. Now I can truly say the 4 is a beast.
touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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touchwiz has no lag on stock. turn off window transition animator in dev options in stock settings and your lag will disappear.
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LOL
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LOL
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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No...no LOL...deactivating the window animations always does help a lot to prevent lags. Afterwards everything is much more smooth. It's the first thing I always do when setting up a new phone / custom rom.
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I think that's what most knowledgeable people do when setting up a new TW phone. The LOL is because that doesn't eliminate the lag that is there. There is so much discussion about this all over, I don't really want to start it all over again here.

[Q] Should I root or not

Ok so I just switched from an iPhone 6 plus to the note 4 and I love it but I keep seeing all the post about rooting and I don't know if it's for me I have jailbroken my iPhone before but I see so many different stuff like roms and am kind of lost and don't know where I would start and what to choose what's the difference between them and if it's even worth it any info and comments would be appreciated. Thanks
Dude, if you have a brain in your head. And a computer or laptop at home. WHAT are you waiting for??! Rooting and custom roms are always going to be my sht lol. Thus why when I get my laptop I am rooting right away. And start to learn to code android with a bunch of programs. Eventually i will bring out a rom myself. It's all about the love for the "sport". Only reason I haven't rooted is because the current computer I have sucks so bad, so slow. But once this taxes come in baby its on!
I haven't found the need to root just yet. If Lollipop releases before the official T-Mobile release, then may-be.
no... simple
But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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no... simple
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The need to root should come before doing it. If you don't know what you're doing it for then you don't need it.
bigpapa2001 said:
But I still don't know why I should root and I I was going to root which one should I use and what does it mean when I see people are rooted and then they flash roms or something I don't want to brick my phone and will I still be able to jump because I hear that it will show that it's been rooted or something about Knox?
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Based on your questions, you have ALOT of reading up to do before you should even attempt to root..Its super easy, but until you know what you are doing, and how to recover in case something goes wrong, don't be in a hurry to do anything...
Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
I'd recommend firekat for your first rom. I'm switching to some version of cm12 today, but you can work on that later when you are more comfortable with Odin and team win recovery.
I guess my main question is what can I do if I root that I can't do unrooted. I have unrooted a phone before thanks to this forum and the help users provided. I wouldn't do anything until I read and was sure of what I was doing but the curiosity has me thinking of doing it and as I read the post on these forums like everyone and their mother is rooted.
You won't brick. These phones are hard to brick. Just follow the instructions. They don't check if Knox is tripped to jump.
Ad blockers like adfree and adaway are big reasons for me. Makes it so you can use free apps without suffering through the ads. It's most important for me with free games and the CNN app:
You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
Sd maid is another cleaner that needs root access to be fully functional. In the picture you can also see root browser which let's you see more of the phone than my files:
Titanium backup let's you remove the Tmobile bloat:
It requires root access.
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You can see in that same picture cachemate. Using it and other cleaners requires root access.
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you should stop advertising root to him.. LOL
Free tethering.
Ok well so far the only thing I would do it for would be for the hotspot what else could I benefit from and thanks for all the comments and info
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Why would you say that?
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Why would you say that
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Benefits of root vs keeping bootloader locked?

I'm debating if I should (for the first time ever), forego unlocking the bootloader and stay on the stock rom. Reasons being rom support is unclear because of the new chip set, but also ota updates, dash charging and Android pay compatibility.
I know I won't be able to restore my titanium backup from my OPO but I'm alright with that.
What do you guys think?
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In my opinion... You must unlock the bootloader and explore the world beyond stock rom. Androids are supposed to root, that's the beauty of it and that's why manufacturers like Oneplus doesn't void warranty now a days. Op3 has a very good dev community and that will be same on Op3t too. I highly recommend you to go ahead and unlock the bootloader.
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I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
GiSS88 said:
I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
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Haha I think we're all the same ! I only root for being able to use AdAway and access to all my phone files and apps. ROM Toolbox is a highly needed app for me too.
I saw that unlocking and rooting doesn't void the waranty ? I didn't know that, great thing ! I hope there will be stock roms avalaible to flash then. I'll come from my Nexus 6, time to change !
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GiSS88 said:
I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
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I don't mind a bit of ads as that's how I see some people making money from the good contents they make. But I have problem w/ non-root Android as it offer no good way to do backup. The only thing that very works is Titanium Root Backup. Yes, every one can say crap all they want about having cloud backup or stay on google stuff but none of that crap work on most games. It's BS at this point that Google is still trying to push everyone away from rooting, but offer no good backup method.
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I don't mind a bit of ads as that's how I see some people making money from the good contents they make. But I have problem w/ non-root Android as it offer no good way to do backup. The only thing that very works is Titanium Root Backup. Yes, every one can say crap all they want about having cloud backup or stay on google stuff but none of that crap work on most games. It's BS at this point that Google is still trying to push everyone away from rooting, but offer no good backup method.
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This is a good point, and most of the time (on desktop) I allow non-intrusive ads. But on my phone, when a pop-up will block an entire webpage, I'm not dealing with it. Sadly, some app makers suffer but I'll still lay the blame on the ad companies.
Root for xposed and Youtube adaway
GiSS88 said:
I've considered not rooting, but honestly one thing has kept me coming back: adaway. I can't stand intrusive ads--and lets be honest, they're ALL intrusive.
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Which app do you use for adaway...?
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manishsoni7689 said:
Which app do you use for adaway...?
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Adaway :laugh:
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Adaway [emoji23]
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I mean does it restrict all the ads or only for YouTube?
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manishsoni7689 said:
I mean does it restrict all the ads or only for YouTube?
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There are some that get through, but I believe it blocks everything for browsers and apps. I've never really tested with Youtube, but any ads built in to the video (sponsored) I think still play.
Yeah I root for adaway, blocking YouTube ads and modifying kernel and using skynet. It's just more fun to be able to tune and optimise too my liking.
I root for adaway, kernels to optimize battery life and depending sometimes Roms
If Oneplus' Oxygen OS allows me to use Titanium Backup and Xposed mods, as well as edit some ini documents in root without root then I guess I don't need it.
But seeing as thats the whole point of rooting, I really don't see any way around it. Some of you might laugh, but I install apps and edit settings to mimic the navigation setup similar to the Amazon Prime phone. Tap Home for Home, Hold for Google, double tap for Recent apps, and swipe up from the bottom to go back. Its surprisingly intuitive and unique. It keeps software keys off the screen, and no accidental presses on the capacitive buttons, as well as you don't need to stretch or awkwardly bend your thumb, its just always naturally resting where Home is.
My only question is if the Home button on the OnePlus is capacitive or clicky.
Ivalicenyan said:
If Oneplus' Oxygen OS allows me to use Titanium Backup and Xposed mods, as well as edit some ini documents in root without root then I guess I don't need it.
But seeing as thats the whole point of rooting, I really don't see any way around it. Some of you might laugh, but I install apps and edit settings to mimic the navigation setup similar to the Amazon Prime phone. Tap Home for Home, Hold for Google, double tap for Recent apps, and swipe up from the bottom to go back. Its surprisingly intuitive and unique. It keeps software keys off the screen, and no accidental presses on the capacitive buttons, as well as you don't need to stretch or awkwardly bend your thumb, its just always naturally resting where Home is.
My only question is if the Home button on the OnePlus is capacitive or clicky.
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Capacitive I believe from the op3 I've seen.
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manishsoni7689 said:
In my opinion... You must unlock the bootloader and explore the world beyond stock rom. Androids are supposed to root, that's the beauty of it and that's why manufacturers like Oneplus doesn't void warranty now a days. Op3 has a very good dev community and that will be same on Op3t too. I highly recommend you to go ahead and unlock the bootloader.
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I've been rooting and installing custom roms since the windows mobile days. I just find that the return on using custom roms is getting smaller and smaller now with OOS and the features built in to it now.
Adaway is pretty clutch. I usually go a little while after a clean flash without Adaway but then it needs to come back.
Has anyone here used android pay? How useful is this?
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There is no such a thing like absolute benefits. It mostly depends upon your objectives.
If all you need is to call, text and write instant messages, then keep your stock phone. Easy.
I need a long lasting battery (with my Oneplus One I am at little more than 40 hours), decent camera, a call recorder and no bloat.
Thus I go root, install CM, remove system apps I don't want/need. Also easy, it takes just 10 minutes more.
nhshah7 said:
I've been rooting and installing custom roms since the windows mobile days. I just find that the return on using custom roms is getting smaller and smaller now with OOS and the features built in to it now.
Adaway is pretty clutch. I usually go a little while after a clean flash without Adaway but then it needs to come back.
Has anyone here used android pay? How useful is this?
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Android pay depends on where you are. I'm in Utah and can use it virtually anywhere and I make sure I do. Don't have to pull out my wallet and wonder if I have to swipe or use the chip reader. Just tap and I'm on my way. Probably going to stay stock just to make sure I can keep using it.
Uqbar said:
There is no such a thing like absolute benefits. It mostly depends upon your objectives.
If all you need is to call, text and write instant messages, then keep your stock phone. Easy.
I need a long lasting battery (with my Oneplus One I am at little more than 40 hours), decent camera, a call recorder and no bloat.
Thus I go root, install CM, remove system apps I don't want/need. Also easy, it takes just 10 minutes more.
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Yes, I know there are no absolute benefits. I'm just asking others what their benefits are
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Yes, I know there are no absolute benefits. I'm just asking others what their benefits are
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I really don't need root. I just wish Safety Net would pass with an unlocked bootloader. I love using Android Pay but I can't stand ads either. With an unlocked bootloader you don't need root to block ads, you just need TWRP so you can adb push a host file to block them.
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