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I'm considering picking up this phone and I've seen quite a few claims that if you disabling Beats will "replace the beats profile with one that reduces audio quality" instead.
Anyone confirm/deny this? If it's true, does it make a large difference? Are there any ways (Custom ROM, kernel, etc..) that fixes this problem?
PLEASE NOTE: I do not want comments on how the beats audio sounds better than anything else - I want comments on if turning it OFF will degrade the sound quality as some people claim.
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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bornotty said:
There's no need to turn it off the quality of audio with beats is amazing!
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jdgreat4 said:
It sounds better with beats audio but it sounds great with it off as well.
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Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
imho, it seems just making the volume louder, but cannot hear much difference... would anyone advise me if there is some kind of settings/ EQ etc? I can't find that... thanks
Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser, meaning that it adjusts to the audio input so that the output isn't distorted and sounds as good as it can on a software level, sure you can create sound like this with an EQ, but then you may have to create sound profiles for ever genre rather than just playing it, but for the record it creates better sound quality which is consistent with all music types that i've tried it with. (magic )
Bass is stronger, delivering a crisper yet softer bass as opposed to a punchy crackle which you'll find on other handsets, trebles are fair and i've heard much louder but in terms of actual clarity it's right up there with the best, mid levels are decent too, so if you want a treble sounding phone then this isn't for you, but for everything else and for the whole package this is where it's at.
I'm referring to the sound that the phone itself delivers, if you were to couple this with a decent set of headphones (i got a pair of solo beats for free with my phone from carphone warehouse, i think they've sold out now) the sound is phenomenal, for picking up and playing a song it is second to none, not the galaxy s4 nor any of the other top of the range handsets can compare to it, the reason for this is because HTC has obviously done it's homework for the audio part of the system and used it as a major selling point.
I'm by no means a music enthusiast but i love them and several of my friends who are music enthusiasts (some producers and DJ's) have said that the sound is superb, obviously not as good as a studio but lets not forget that this is a phone that we're talking about here and for what it is it won't be beaten.
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AFAIK Beat is an active equaliser
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
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Bass is stronger
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That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Yep, thus meaning the sound signature should be rather inconsistent as it changes from song to song, right?
That's exactly what I do not want when using my Sennheiser headphones.
Boosting the bass gives a sound signature I really do not like too much. I want it to be balanced and rather a bit laid back as opposed to strong and, imo, overpowering. Bright and detailed with a wide soundstage is more my cup of tea.
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Can I remind you all that my question isn't about how the beats profile sounds like but just if the sound quality does noticeably degrade (even compared to other phones) when you DISABLE it?
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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Sounds like your already dead set against it, why don't you go down to a shop with your headphones and try it out, sorry but I'm not going to delve Into how I feel about the sound quality anymore, this thread and your responses are about as predantic as it gets. I tried to give you a detailed explanation and my experience of the sound on top of other people whom I know.
You don't appear to want to hear that so get one and try it for yourself.
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None of these replies have answered my question about it though. so let me rephase:
I've seen several reviews claim that this phone use 2 different profiles for Beats audio;
1. The ON profile which activates the "enhancement"
2. The OFF profile which, rather than just deactivating beats audio, will reduce the sound quality below that of what the DAC is capable of.
Now may I have any comments relevant to this question (rather than just saying the sound quality of this phone is good or bad).
Also, not all stores here allow you to try out the phones like so unfortunately.
EDIT: Thanks to the LinusTechTips forum I found this video which pretty much explains what I've been saying: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdbn_pmxFic
Timmyfoxeh said:
Sounds better is subjective. WHY does it sound better? Explain!
With my taste in music I want a "bright" sound with pretty controlled and laid back bass. I do consider myself quite enthusiastic about good sound quality and honestly, afaik Beats sounds, to me, the entire opposite of what I think is good sound quality.
Anyone can explain to me how the sound quality compares to any other phone they've used?
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I think it's much clearer, and s bit louder. But clearer. I used to have an HTC sensation, where in the middle of your video or music you had a toggle to turn off Beats. And trust me, there is a difference. I even record university lectures on it, and beats tunes out the background noise and boosts that of the speaker. It does wonders . But you can always get the phone and turn off Beats and download an equalizer from the pay store.
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones. The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
3. Turning off beats does not seem to activate an "intentionally low quality profile." That wouldn't make any sense, it's just a tweaked equalizer...
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We're missing a critical piece of information from you : do you primarily listen through the phone's speakers or use headphones? Given that you don't seem to have a One yet (and thus have normal phone speakers which are pretty terrible ) you probably use headphones (you mention in passing a pair of sens). The reason this is critical (and why the whole situation is kind of irrelevant) is because when using the phone speakers turning the enhancement off does make it sound worse IMO. However, if you're using headphones, turning it off makes it sound better assuming you have a decent pair of course. I don't know if you're like me and prefer a natural base level over an artificially high one, but if you are then you can just turn off beats and let the headphones do the work and it will sound just as good as using any other portable audio player out there. See why it's all irrelevant now? You can turn it on to use it when it's good and off when it's not, and if you personally feel that it's never good, then you can just turn it off and rely only on the hardware which is just as good as any other portable source.
So take home points (I'll keep them simple and clear) :
1. Yes it sounds worse if you turn off beats when using the phone's speakers.
2. It does sound better to those looking for a more natural sound profile to turn off beats when using a pair of quality headphones.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Thanks for a good and detailed response - This is the kind of reply I was looking for!
Also. good to see an opinion from someone that seemingly have a similar taste in sound signature as I do.
Yep I'm thinking of the headphone performance indeed, speakers I usually don't care too much about, I can see why they seemingly optimized the speakers for use with the beats turned on.
Another thing to mention, I'm coming from the Galaxy Nexus which has a rather decent DAC. Nothing spectacular but decent enough. If you have any comments on the SQ difference between the One and the Gnex or any similar devices, do post them.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Happy to help!
For practicality reasons I too usually use headphones. I'm sorry I've never had a galaxy line phone to compare to. But if you think about it theoretically, you're going to be playing mp3 files in all likelihood. Hopefully they're 320kbps at least, but still mp3s. At this level of listening comparing one source to another is pretty difficult I think; there's just too much compression already. Which is why I think contrasting portable audio source quality is a moot point, it depends more on the headphones. But fortunately you need to get up into the thousands of dollars in equipment to decern the finer details anyway.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Actually most of my collection is ripped in flac ^^
My setup at home is a far better source than any phone can produce, not super high end but still a good setup.
Nonetheless, I care for having a decent enough audio source from my phone as a large portion of my music listening is when away from home and I don't want to carry a ton of portable equipment and media players when I can have it all done from my phone.
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Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Xerro-Five said:
Oh nice, that's excellent! The thought of re-ripping all of mine is just to daunting...
From what I've read elsewhere on xda the One handles flac pretty well.
There's a lot of neat information here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/655952/htc-one
Page 2 will be especially interesting to you as someone had the Galaxy s and htc One.
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Sorry meant galaxy nexus
I've been out of the loop for a long time. The last music player I used has seemingly been abandoned (Mort Player), so I'm curious about what everyone uses (and why).
I'd love something with decent widget support (something with cover artwork). All (or at least the vast majority) of my albums have a folder.jpg.
flac fupport would be HUGE, but I don't know of many that support it (Neutron does, I think). EQ would be helpful. m4b (audiobook) support would be awesome, but that will probably need to be a separate player, plus I have an old iPhone that I use in my car for audiobooks.
I guess this is a combination post. Looking for what people use, as well as recommendations for me.
Poweramp
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Poweramp
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That's one I'm considering. That or Neutron are leading the pack in my mind.
google search "android music app" and there are a ton of threads, but IMO neutron player has by far the best sound quality. I tried a lot of apps and even though it doesn't have the best interface you can without a doubt hear the difference in sound when using Neutron over any other player. Sure, I guess poweramp or any other player could use eq settings to sound better but neutron doesn't need anything.
Poweramp will be the bone pretty much everyone goes with.
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google search "android music app" and there are a ton of threads, but IMO neutron player has by far the best sound quality. I tried a lot of apps and even though it doesn't have the best interface you can without a doubt hear the difference in sound when using Neutron over any other player. Sure, I guess poweramp or any other player could use eq settings to sound better but neutron doesn't need anything.
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That's what I remember of Neutron when it first came out. I admit I'm curious to hear music from my phone through my good cans through multiple music players.
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Poweramp will be the bone pretty much everyone goes with.
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That or Neutron. Neutron gets a lot of recommendations, even though it doesn't have the pretty interface that Poweramp does.
+1 Neutron
Poweramp is the best right there. Been using it since 2k11.
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Eleven. Or the dark version. Google it.
If you're looking for something different, check out N7 player
Not to break with the pack but I'm using Gone mad music player. It's paid but has a great eq and processor. It supports crossfading and gap less playback.
For me it's been fantastic.
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I'm using Sony Music now. It's so nice to use compared to other apps.
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Long time poweramp. Since a few month Shuttle
for me it's Poweramp. since i have a Macbook and use iTunes as my primary player, i have to use Apple Lossless (alac) instead of flac. Poweramp seems to be one of the only players to support this format. if you're using regular flac files, Shuttle (better visuals) or GoneMAD (more customization) should do the trick since they use the same audio engine that supports lossless.
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Not to break with the pack but I'm using Gone mad music player. It's paid but has a great eq and processor. It supports crossfading and gap less playback.
For me it's been fantastic.
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I looked up this one since you mentioned it and found out that I have already purchased the full version...
I'll install the trial on my Nexus and see how it sounds through my DT770s. I'd desperately love for one of these players to sound good enough with them that I don't have to bring my headphone amp with me when I travel. So far, Poweramp is sounding the best through those headphones to me. Not as full as with the amp, but better than my stock iPhone for sure.
The fact that it supports m4b is icing on the cake.
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I looked up this one since you mentioned it and found out that I have already purchased the full version...
I'll install the trial on my Nexus and see how it sounds through my DT770s. I'd desperately love for one of these players to sound good enough with them that I don't have to bring my headphone amp with me when I travel. So far, Poweramp is sounding the best through those headphones to me. Not as full as with the amp, but better than my stock iPhone for sure.
The fact that it supports m4b is icing on the cake.
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Have you tried viper4android yet? It requires root but is a great amp and even has custom headphone profiles that are adjusted for a wide selection of headphones for different manufacturers. I have Sennheiser Momentums and it makes the music sound amazing.
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Have you tried viper4android yet? It requires root but is a great amp and even has custom headphone profiles that are adjusted for a wide selection of headphones for different manufacturers. I have Sennheiser Momentums and it makes the music sound amazing.
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Looked at it, but since I'm rooted stock I wasn't sure if it would work.
I have to say that of the 4 that I've tried (Play Music, Neutron, Poweramp, and Gone Mad (the latter 3 all trials)), GMMP has so far yeilded the closest sound to my desktop rig using the same headphones, albeit not as loud or with quite the note separation.
I would have sworn that Neutron would do that.
The headphones I have really do need an amp to help bring out the full potential, but I'm pretty impressed with how everything sounds out of the N6. Better than out of my old iPhone without an amp.
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Looked at it, but since I'm rooted stock I wasn't sure if it would work.
I have to say that of the 4 that I've tried (Play Music, Neutron, Poweramp, and Gone Mad (the latter 3 all trials)), GMMP has so far yeilded the closest sound to my desktop rig using the same headphones, albeit not as loud or with quite the note separation.
I would have sworn that Neutron would do that.
The headphones I have really do need an amp to help bring out the full potential, but I'm pretty impressed with how everything sounds out of the N6. Better than out of my old iPhone without an amp.
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Stock rooted w/custom recovery? If so it's really just a matter of flashing a zip and opening the app, installing a driver, and reboot. (edit) You also have to flash a permissive zip for SElinux.
There are configurations for headset, phone speaker, Bluetooth, and aux output.
On the gmmp , I've really enjoyed it tbh. I pay for apps rarely but I've been happy with this purchase. My only issue is it not sending album art to my car stereo very well but otherwise worth it.
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Stock rooted w/custom recovery? If so it's really just a matter of flashing a zip and opening the app, installing a driver, and reboot. (edit) You also have to flash a permissive zip for SElinux.
There are configurations for headset, phone speaker, Bluetooth, and aux output.
On the gmmp , I've really enjoyed it tbh. I pay for apps rarely but I've been happy with this purchase. My only issue is it not sending album art to my car stereo very well but otherwise worth it.
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Good to know. I didn't know if it would work with the stock kernel (yes I have TWRP installed).
I will have to give it a try. I plugged my E6 into my phone and headphones and was very impressed. I gave up on the E6 shortly after getting a proper headphone amp/dac, but the sound was the closest yet to my desktop rig which is a huge plus to me.
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I like Rocket Player. The free version has a 5-band equalizer and the premium version a 10-band one, so you can get a lot of the functionality of Viper4Android there.
How is the speaker audio-quality compared to something like HTC One devices?
Is the DAC & AMP somewhere near the quality of the HTC 10, LG V20 or Axon 7?
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I can only compare to the iPhone 6S.
The speaker of the P10 is a bit louder, but on the loudest setting it sounds a bit distorted or overdriven. When I set 2 steps down it sounds like the iPhone 6S in direct comparison. The loudest setting is good for ringtones and they sound really well, if you don't have songs like metal or trance as ringtone.
With headphones (Beyerdynamics DT-770) and some FLAC files I couldn't hear any differences.
Pocketnow made an audio review for the P10.
https://youtu.be/jBzEmOhfcSU
The loudness of headphone output is 1/3 of iphone 7, 40% quieter than Galaxy S7. Not very loud. Both Phonearena and GSMarena confirm this.
I can confirm that the sound in P10 is very nice in Bowers and Wilkins P5 jack.
If you run flacs and Hi-Res Audio its very nice. Blutooth in AAC is also nice.
The Sound in P10 is designed by Hardan Kardon and the DAC is made of Yamaha Commercial Audio
It is well enough loud, if you use the Huawei music app you must run DTS.
Its pros is rock, blues, vokal, acoustic, jazz, funk etc... The sound is egaging, dynamic, detailed and lively better than iphone 4S, and other mobiles ive tried. The phones strongest audio card is something called SEPARATION, between instruments, that is simply outstanding. You hear details of what drum it is, clear vokal, and all the instruments is well placed in a room.
Classical sounds nice, but is not its strongest card, it could have more clarity and focused details..
If your are a Beats head, that damage your ears with hiphop, Skrillex and tekno at high volume, maybe your not satisfyed.
I cranked House of Pain Jump around in Poweramp, and that sounded nice.
HTC 10 should on the papers have better audio sound tho.
But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.
Works with ESS chipset in the B&O modular for the LG G5.
I prefer to disable DTS. Nice sound but the volume is a little lover than Htc
I just want to give my opinion on this:
I have both the Axon 7 and the P10 Plus and I must say that output is better in the P10 Plus, and I don't understand why.
I don't know what kind of sorcery does DTS mode, but it pumps the sound in a really nice way.
When you disable DTS, Axon 7 sounds better in HiFi res.
Probably is because there is no way to use the AKM DAC on the Axon 7 with a proper equalization, so even when the sound is good, it can't be used along the Dolby Atmos feature. Dolby Atmos only kicks in when using the speakers, or if you want to use it with headphones, it will automatically change to Snapdragon DAC. So far there is no way to use Atmos and the AKM dac together.
I'm using Sony XBA-H1 which I find pretty decent earbuds to test this.
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Its Confirmed by Huawei that P10 use the latest Hi6403 soundchip (typical with Kirin960) that supports Hi-Rez
Its rumoured that Harman Kardon, and Yamaha Commercial Audio group has worked on the sound in P10
It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.
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It's just to bad that the amplifier is to weak. It makes the volume lower than the competitors.
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I don't know, but this P10 Plus sounds better than my Axon 7, and is supposed that Axon 7 is the best audio phone.
Activating DTS make everything more punchier and richier.
The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.
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The Audio quality is great. But the low volume might be because of some EU regulations.
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Problem is that we don't have a way to equalize the output using the high quality dog, because as long as we turn on Dolby Atmos, it changes to Qualcomm one.
Is a pity we don't have a stock or default equalizer besides Dolby Atmos, because is useless if we want the best quality out of the headphone jack.
I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/how-to/guide-increase-headset-volume-t3624236
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I don't know if this trick or a simualy trick works
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Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.
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Is not only about the volume, but more of the equalization, and no trick can help with that.
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Poweramp?
Just hoping that beta testing is done soon for Hi rez audio version...
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But I want to know if the Huawei P10 is ready with drivers to connect a Dac via USB for example Dragonfly.
I ask this because alot of other people wants to know the same.
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Just connect and Play... I use a dragonfly Red, and It works fine
Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....
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Have no problems with volume on my Sony 100 headphones jack and Poweramp or Sony music player Hi-rez
But sad not Poweramp has Hi-Rez support for Hua yet....
Using stock music player with my Trinity Master IEM (2BA drivers, 1 dynamic) and it has the best sound output so far among my existing devices (xiaomi mi3, nexus 5, oppo f1s). The sound is crisp and full. With DTS, everything sounds louder but more artificial.
Howdy All,
For those who have had a LG V device in the past you'all know what's coming - how do we trick the quad DAC into high impedance mode (HIM) or AUX mode?
For those who don't know here's a little background. The previous LG V series phones have had a very nice DAC and AMP setup which can almost meet the standards of audiophile quality. The thing was that in the later phones (V20 and V30 AFAIR) the software was designed to "smart switch" which mode the AMP was in. HIM and AUX mode settings had the loudest volumes and was corresponding to the headphone impedance value. The normal setting had the lowest volume designed for low impedance IEMs. Note that the AMP setting doesn't really have a bearing on sound QUALITY, just sound VOLUME. I'm guessing but the reasoning for this is to prevent blown IEMs and blown eardrums. I'm going to find the link for the old V30 quad DAC thread and some stuff tried and what worked in order to activate AUX mode and/or HIM. BTW having ROOT on the phone allows for adjusting this setting as needed, which is why I went with the unlocked version this time around. My pair of MrSpeakers Aeon Flows have low impedance but need power in order to drive properly and the AMP in the V series phones would only trigger normal impedance mode.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/modes-quad-dac-t3690567
So that brings us to the V40. Does it have a quad DAC? Yes it does. Does it have a smart switching AMP? So far my indications are yes it does. Do the old tricks from the V30 days work on the V40? I don't think that they do. I have multiple extension cables, which I use for triggering the AUX mode as well as an impedance adapter (50ohms I think). The old methods of using the extension cable, the adapter, and both don't seem to have an effect on the AMP setting. My Sony MDR-1As are much louder than my Aeon Flows...bummer for me.
UPDATE - Upon further testing with the help of this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apptrio.hi_fi_status I was able to trigger the AUX AMP mode and it kicked up the volume on my Sony's quite a bit! Unfortunately when I triggered HIM the volume of the sound did not change from the normal mode. Basically what I did was take a 2ft 3.5mm cable extension (male on one side female on the other) and plug it in WITHOUT THE HEADPHONE CABLE ATTACHED. Once the HIFI status app displayed AUX mode I then plugged in my HPs and BOOM, here comes the volume!
Anyways if you have anything to add or have any questions feel free to hit us up. When root is available I'll also make updates to this thread if need be.
Have a good one :highfive:
Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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Is that why the volume is stuck at 75?
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If you have your volume go up to 75 and it doesn't blow out your ears then it is due to the AMP being in normal mode.
I just say one thing:
Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!
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Neutron player!
Demands some fiddling before you reach your preferred settings, but for me it's the best DAC player out there!
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Have you tried the mobile version of foobar2000? As it's the preferred app for FLAC files and such on the PC, I imagine the mobile version is quite good as well. I wonder how it compares to Neutron Player. I definitely will give both a shot and compare.
On the note of music players, despite making fun of it (it's quite easy to do) and being certain it would fail, I recently converted to Tidal. The quality is really astounding, and the music library is almost as complete as Spotify/etc. Additionally, some albums are available as "masters" that are actually encoded with MQA!
Your right about Tidal. It sounds awesome. The price difference isn't worth it though.
Treesap! I'm comparing those players right now! I'm listening to metal (Tesseract), jazz (Yellowjackets), all flac, and so far I like both foobar2000 and Neutron. The built in player is not satisfying me yet, except for mp3 (I See Stars - Treehouse). Does anyone know if it's necessary to disable the built in effects to make other players work independently? That's what I did with v20. Just remember how different expectations and taste we all have in regards to music/sound
And maybe I should add that I'm just a regular user (with high demand on sound quality), who can't afford too fancy earbuds or extras right now. Any advice regarding good quality sound (budget price) earbuds would be very appreciated
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
nyttliv7 said:
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/
Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?
wwyjoe said:
Does Poweramp 705 perform better than LG's stock music app?
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Well I'm sure there's some tech guys here who can give us the correct details, but for me the answer is yes! After tuning it up for my ears, the Poweramp does it in a perfect way. If I play mp3 or flac it's giving me perfect sound all over, compared to the lg app were I had to tune it up for individual files.
have any of you engaged the DAC for streaming, for Google music in particular?
there was mention by some last year that one DAC player and an add-on app could do that for Google music. i just don't keep much on my phone and streaming is my way, so I'm still looking at taking advantage where i can. I'm running V4A on a rooted V30 now and looking at the V40's development.
nyttliv7 said:
Went back to Poweramp (poweramp-alpha-build-705) and so far it's the best one for me.
For anyone who didn't know, if you payed for the full version, you can upgrade it to high res.
https://forum.powerampapp.com/topic...s-within-old-feature-complete-user-interface/
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Poweramp improving and improving
(Poweramp-v3-build-805-uni)
I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's
nyttliv7 said:
So after fiddling for a while, Poweramp alpha 705 is tuned (for my ears) to perfection
If it can help anyone, I'll happily share?!
BTW, some interesting reading that made me understand more about hi-res and DAC:
https://www.androidauthority.com/why-you-dont-want-that-32-bit-dac-667621/
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Hope the following can help, and also, please correct me anyone, if my way of thinking here is some way wrong or misleading.
A assume you've already taken part of the Poweramp forum?! It's the only way to get the hi-res add-ons. And you obviously have to log in to be able to download.
I'm not 100% sure about how poweramp and the built in eq interacts, but after fiddling for a bit, it seams like what I'm sharing here works best when it comes to volume and sound. Have in mind our individual reference of sound and of course, what kind of earphones/buds you have (this is based on flac files).
You can see I've put replay gain on max in Poweramp settings. You can easily change RG in the eq later to fit individual album.
If anyone else have suggestions, please don't be shy
https://forum.powerampapp.com/files/file/37-poweramp-v3-build-807-uniapk/
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What settings have you set your Poweramp to? The LG app is sounding better and much louder to me.
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Here's the rest:
ps3hacker3 said:
I realize there probably isn't much benefit from forcing high impedance but I do want to do some testing with it among other things so I'm curious has anyone figured out any tricks to forcing it with an extension cable or anything of the sorts. I'm still trying to find ways and it looks like similar ways done to the v30 isn't working the same way for our v40's
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I put details in the first post. Maybe you missed it?
Sent from my LM-V405 using Tapatalk
Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.
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Speaking of the DAC, does anyone know if the V40 has support for MQA? The V30 has it, and they recently added support for it to the Essential PH-1, but no mention of it for the V40, just "high quality Quad DAC". I suspect that it does, because they probably used the same chip for the V40, but I see no mention of it anywhere, so far.
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I had the V30+ what's "MQA"?
Hello! There's a way to install v4a on emui 9? I have root with magisk.
I am concerned myself, please help us, anyone
cortex69 said:
I am concerned myself, please help us, anyone
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I think we need an update to support 64 bit driver...
AntoRei said:
I think we need an update to support 64 bit driver...
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I just got this phone, if there's no audio route I could go rooting device before tehn I am retruning back to mate 9 !
good luck here
Mate 10 ALP-L29 on EMUI 9's audio (from headphone jack) is one of the cleanest sounding outputs I've heard using my triple driver hybrid IEMs.
Sad that NO ONE is talking about it!
ej8989 said:
Mate 10 ALP-L29 on EMUI 9's audio (from headphone jack) is one of the cleanest sounding outputs I've heard using my triple driver hybrid IEMs.
Sad that NO ONE is talking about it!
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Absolutely right. I've used this device for a Year now and I really don't see a reason for some audio enhancement software, since the sound is just great anyhow I play it. I've listened my favorite tracks thru wired and bluetooth headsets, streamed over wifi and bluetooth dongles, and couldn't find anything less satisfying than my other phones. I have been using V4A and Dolby Atmos earlier on my Note, but I must say I really don't miss it at all.
Not trying to criticize, just posting my opinion.
rath76 said:
Absolutely right. I've used this device for a Year now and I really don't see a reason for some audio enhancement software, since the sound is just great anyhow I play it. I've listened my favorite tracks thru wired and bluetooth headsets, streamed over wifi and bluetooth dongles, and couldn't find anything less satisfying than my other phones. I have been using V4A and Dolby Atmos earlier on my Note, but I must say I really don't miss it at all.
Not trying to criticize, just posting my opinion.
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Agree on audio through wired headphones!
However, in the car, i need a little bit of control with EQ and Soundstage / Reverb, and V4A provides those options. ATM, I'm using RE Equalizer and if only it's stable (enable / disable the switch to make it work), I don't feel the need for V4A
My. 6p was much louder with viper than mate 10 pro on aux. Can't agree it could be louder and more bass sound.