In the course of adding rebranding support to the Mate 10 Pro/Porsche US editions as part of FunkyHuawei (Please see this post for details: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75279649&postcount=711 ) I can confirm the following:
1. The Mate 10 Pro and Porsche for sale in the US are re-purposed AT&T BLA-A09 devices. Other countries have the BLA-L29 or BLA-L09 so this is a US-centric codename, but in fact the hardware is identical.
2. The US edition of the Mate 10 Pro is single-sim. The Mate 10 Pro Porsche for the US market is also single-sim (other markets had dual sim porsche design editions). This is because they originally intended to release the phone with AT&T, which obviously wouldn't want them to release a dual-sim phone. If you live in the US and want dual sim, you're better off buying an international model and rebranding it, so you can have the dual sim functionality.
3. The US edition of the Mate 10 Pro/Porsche (or devices rebranded to the US branding) will support VoLTE on T-Mobile, but not VoWifi. However it does support both VoLTE and VoWifi on AT&T. If you want to check what is supported for your own MCC/MNC please look at this list, it's pulled from the US firmware:
https://pastebin.com/BGtr3VhT
If anyone wants to know more, you can ask in this thread or in the FunkyHuawei thread. We'll probably have many users rebranding to it and using it in the US soon.
What's the difference between the Mate 10 Pro and Porsche Design branding?
juscallmemickey said:
What's the difference between the Mate 10 Pro and Porsche Design branding?
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Nothing
juscallmemickey said:
What's the difference between the Mate 10 Pro and Porsche Design branding?
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Generally the only differences are logos and branding and themes.
So does tmobile still have beef with huawei over stealing stuff? Feel like just about any recent unlocked flagship supports wifi calling on tmobile, most noticeably oneplus. I believe you could get axon7 working too.
What's the difference between VoLTE and a service like Google Voice that works with data? I mean if you have an LTE data connection and you're using a service like GV isn't that VoLTE by definition? Wouldn't the same apply for WhatsApp, Skype, Telegram etc if you were on an LTE connection? I don't really understand why VoLTE is hyped so much.
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What's the difference between VoLTE and a service like Google Voice that works with data? I mean if you have an LTE data connection and you're using a service like GV isn't that VoLTE by definition? Wouldn't the same apply for WhatsApp, Skype, Telegram etc if you were on an LTE connection? I don't really understand why VoLTE is hyped so much.
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Volte would work for the native dialer. Using a secondary app is not something many folks in the US want to do (see imessage)
would there ever be a CDMA version at all ? I have a Verizon sim and tmobile I would love to use both sims or at least Verizon on the mate pro
Do you know if the current US branded firmwares are signed and will pass the safetynet test so I can use android pay? The earlier firmware version wasn’t so I rebranded back to the European version. Am in ATT and would love VoLTE and WiFi calling again but not if I can’t use android pay
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Volte would work for the native dialer. Using a secondary app is not something many folks in the US want to do (see imessage)
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You can use Google Voice on the primary dialler and as your primary number and also forward all calls from GV to your primary number.
just ordered a Huawei Mate 10 Pro International BLA-L29 for my wife and would like to rebrand to AT&T. i have a few questions regarding rebranding to ATT firmware:
is the FunkyHuawei ATT rebranded firmware the same that's [expected to be] installed on the US versions when they go on sale 18-Feb?
if i rebrand to ATT would i be able to root the device? if yes, will rooting disable some phone features?
on my Exynos Note 8, VoLTE and Wifi calling with ATT service will work if you (a) apply the ATT CSC (vendor config) to your rooted device using TWRP and (b) use the imei of an ATT device that supports those features. i'm hopeful that the same setup works for the Mate 10 Pro. thanks for taking time to respond to my questions.
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just ordered a Huawei Mate 10 Pro International BLA-L29 for my wife and would like to rebrand to AT&T. i have a few questions regarding rebranding to ATT firmware:
is the FunkyHuawei ATT rebranded firmware the same that's [expected to be] installed on the US versions when they go on sale 18-Feb?
if i rebrand to ATT would i be able to root the device? if yes, will rooting disable some phone features?
on my Exynos Note 8, VoLTE and Wifi calling with ATT service will work if you (a) apply the ATT CSC (vendor config) to your rooted device using TWRP and (b) use the imei of an ATT device that supports those features. i'm hopeful that the same setup works for the Mate 10 Pro. thanks for taking time to respond to my questions.
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I will answer your question in the FunkyHuawei thread, as this thread is talking about the US device release. Please check the other thread.
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I will answer your question in the FunkyHuawei thread, as this thread is talking about the US device release. Please check the other thread.
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@duraaraa - thanks for your reply.
Will the US variant support t-mobile's extended range LTE? I remember reading somewhere they were blocking devices that didn't pass their certification.
No wifi calling on T-Mobile means no buyie from my
Got the porsche design dual sim version to work on verizon on data only.
Still trying to figure out phone call and text message which doesnt work yet.
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Got the porsche design dual sim version to work on verizon on data only.
Still trying to figure out phone call and text message which doesnt work yet.
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It will not work on verizon for calls/texts.
isn't it all the same hardware?
Is the phone suppose to be on AT&T and Verizon before of political pressure and decided not to work with Huawei?
so the phone should works on both carriers, unless they plan to come out with 2 version??? hardware wise?
also, on the phone, it says 4G and a little + sign?
what does the + sign for?
I know in US is suppose to say 4G = 3.5 G and real 4G = LTE
but since this is a international version 4G should be LTE? but a + sign?
@duraaraa, i had heard that, in spite of being seen as expensive by most, people were nonetheless willing to pay up because your customer service was second to none!
However, unfortunately, i can't share their opinion; I've tried to reach you at least 3 times in the past, which, not having expected it to be warranted to have to "insist", i didn't document dates and times (for different reasons which, at the end, I've had to solve all without your expected assistance.)
Recently, i actually used the official means, per the "Contact" tab at FH Club. It's nearing the 3-digit hour mark, and i think it's time you at least tell me (or, maybe it's "US, the (no pun intended, U.S. customers) to take a hike and stop wasting my time and yours.
I'm approaching you in the most respectful manner, which I realize may be difficult to fully see when in writing. I am also fully aware of your Terms and Conditions which state that FH reserves the right to at any time and for any or no reason, stop providing support without having to issue so much as a cent paid for given service.
Lastly, it hasn't always been "Big, Bad Duraaraa; i acknowledge you have provided me input at other times in the past.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Does that mean U.S phones will be able to rebrand for better software support? O:
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Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!
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Does anyone know from past experience (etc) if the U.S. Amazon site will get the INTERNATIONAL version of the Xperia X Performance at the same time as the other countries do?? I know the int'l version will get released before the U.S. version, but can anyone say if they've heard or seen that the U.S. Amazon site will get them at that time or later??
Thank you in advance!!
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check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.
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check expansys hk for the dual sim 64GB version.
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kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???
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kms,
I've already pre-ordered the single-sim version from Expansys U.S., and have no desire to buy the dual-sim version. But thanks anyway.
Any idea if ANY of the XP variants Sony is releasing will come with VoLTE???
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VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.
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VoLTE is not a feature that sony will omit from the Hong Kong version, I think all the service provider in Hong Kong supports VoLTE, but have to wait for the release before I can confirm, it should be available on the 16th.
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kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!
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kms,
Hmm interesting........ I have NO desire for the dual-SIM, HOWEVER.......... if the dual-sim version comes with VoLTE, then I will most certainly be interested in it!! I found out that, at least with my carrier (T-Mobile, I live in the Chicago area in the U.S.), even though the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, because it doesn't have VoLTE (single-sim), it WILL NOT be able to utilize Band 12 for voice during phone calls, only the data portion can be used on Band 12 during a call. But with VoLTE, I'd be able to use Band 12 for voice too............which is important because my area is going to have it very soon! Band 12/700 MHz spectrum is very valuable b/c it can penetrate buildings much better than the higher bandwidths can, which means BETTER reception while indoors! :victory: Right now it doesn't matter, but in 6-8 months when we WILL have it, it will.
2 questions:
1) Are YOU getting your dual-sim version of the XP from Expansys HK?
2) The 16th? As in JUNE 16th kms??!!
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I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem, HK only has the dual sim version, the second sim is a hybrid sim/micro sd, but that isn't a problem as I can get them both working together.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
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I'm still considering the X or XP, The X will be available on the 7th whiles the XP is on the 16th, I think I heard the shop say this, but can't confirm yet, but it is before mid of this month for both.
If I do get one it will be from a local chain store in Hong Kong, that way I can inspect the unit before hand for scratches, dead pixels and other cosmetic defect or problem.
Once either one is released I can check for you, about the VoLTE, but cannot check the bands.
Initial finding of the bands for XP and X are:
LTE FDD 700/800/850900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600
LTE TDD 1900/2300/2500/2600
WCDMA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100
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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around me can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this from happening the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!
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kms,
Yeah I've already confirmed the XP has Band 12/700 MHz capability, so don't worry about that. But getting a version of the XP that HAS VoLTE would be VERY important to me! I HATE it when other people around can get reception indoors but I can't (it doesn't happen often, but it does happen). Having VoLTE would most likely eliminate this the majority (if not ALL) the time.
That's fine. The one from the store will be the same as the dual-sim one from Expansys HK anyway.
So THIS month?!! :good::victory: That's f'ing awesome!!! Yeah we won't get the the single-sim XP here in the U.S. 'til I dunno, early to mid July? So even if I have to pay more for dual-sim, to have it extra early and WITH VoLTE would be extraordinary!! Man I REALLY HOPE the dual-SIM version of the XP has VoLTE!
Ok so say it does have it...........is there any reason to think it might not work here in the U.S. kms??!
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HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.
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HK expansys is likely to get the Hong Kong version, it's also a 64GB version, the only reason for not working in the US is the band, the band is 700, but there are various version of the 700 band, so not sure if this is the band 12.
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Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.
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Ughh you're right about the dual-sim one having 64 GBs! I don't need the 64GB version, like I don't need the extra SIM slot lol, but F it, whatever. IF this f'ing phone ACTUALLY has VoLTE on it, then I'll buy it. FML lol
Well wait a minute. There's a Hong Kong version? I don't think so kms..........the single-sim one I pre-ordered from Expansys US is the INTERNATIONAL version. Expansys US' own customer service people told me that they ONLY sell the international versions (unless otherwise noted). So I think the one you guys are getting will be the INTERNATIONAL version kms, but it'll be sold there in HK. Both the single and dual SIM versions of the XP (F8131 & F8132) have Band 12/700 MHz. So I don't see why it would be any different here vs. in Hong Kong to be honest with you.
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If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.
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If you can confirm the information is correct, then it's ok, extra internal memory is bettery, even 32Gb is getting slightly small these days, so the more the better.
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Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??
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Yeah but I already HAVE a 64 GB MicroSD card in my phone now, so I don't need the extra room, and won't be using it either.
Confirm what information kms??
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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.
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If the information about the version you are about to get is correct, thats what matters.
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You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol
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You mean the single-sim one I pre-ordered, that it IS in fact the international version?? If so, I've already confirmed that with Expansys US. They told me they only sell the int'l version of phones UNLESS otherwise noted. Here is a copy & paste of their e-mailed response to me on that topic:
This would be the international version, please let us know if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Dulce
So kms, if that's what they sell, then the dual-SIM (F8132) model YOU'RE getting will also be int'l, so it will come with Band 12/700 MHz capability on it as well, which that page I linked you earlier confirmed. What I don't get is why the F8132 would have VoLTE on it but the single-sim F8131 wouldn't? But if your prediction is true, then I don't give a sh*t. lol I just want that f'ing phone!! lol
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Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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MGSBigBoss said:
Volte won't work unless sony actually certifies the process with the carriers they intend to have it with. Volte will not work like the z5 didn't.
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F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??
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F. Ughh......... lol.
So the unlocked Z5 had VoLTE on it but it still didn't work here in the U.S.??
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Correct. Anything that has LTE bands and Android 5.0 and up has volte capabilities
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Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.
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Ok.
So what do you think MGS? Get the XP with the best camera but can't utilize Band 12 for voice on a call (so can't benefit from its improved indoor reception advantage) & no HD Voice, or get the HTC 10 which still has a very good camera and has the Band 12/VoLTE/HD Voice advantage? Tough choice, for me anyway.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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Ethically I'd say htc 10 as htc wants your money as they listen to their fans for the most part and go the extra mile supporting all carrier features. On the other hand I'm a big sony fan and enjoy the value of their hardware but let's be honest sony really doesn't care about us. They force us to buy international versions to get full features and gimp us phones without giving us legitimate reasoning. Have you ever talked to sony mobile support they are as clueless as we are.
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You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol
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You make some valid points MGS.
The fact that HTC STILL sells their phones through all the major carriers is an advantage all its own. I can go onto T-Mobile's website and buy the HTC 10 RIGHT NOW if I wanted to.
Yeah I mean, I can't lie, I love Sony's Xperia phones the most. But I am at wit's end here with all this hassle I have to go through to buy the d*mn thing, and then in dealing with the BS that comes with the actual phone. The int'l version is cheaper (yet better) and is coming out sooner than the U.S. version, so I don't really care about that. But this VoLTE thing really p's me off cuz I won't get the BEST reception with it even though I really should. Plus having to buy it unlocked is dumb too.
Oh dude, JUST the other day I spoke to them. They LITERALLY know nothing more about why the supreme morons that run that company do what they do than we do. Is it really THAT hard to get the phone certified? I mean, if you're not gonna offer people the chance to pay for it on a monthly basis (like carriers do) interest-free, and not release it on time (f'ing July??!), the LEAST you could do is go that extra mile and get the d*mn thing certified for VoLTE and HD Voice too.
So your answer is HTC 10 or XP? lol
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I really don't know yet. I'm tempted to just stay with my z3v which has volte and hdvoice on verizon lol
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I'm using the Mate 10 C636 - ALP-L29 version with the very latest 8.0.0.131 firmware.
This was the firmware that allegedly added VoLTE and VoWiFi features.
I've never found these settings in the settings on the phone and my mobile provider, Plusnet (at MVNO), does not offer VoWifi.
So, I was particularly interested to see that MVNO "IDMobile", based on the 'Three' network was offering VoWifi and in particular, if you look at the devices they support:
https://www.idmobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/wifi-calling
Wi-Fi Calling currently works on iPhone 5s, iPhone SE, iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8, iPhone X and Huawei mate 10.
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How random. All the iPhones and the Mate 10. Not the Mate 10 Pro.
Which is odd, given that the Mate 10 has never been released here, but the Pro has.
I decided to speak to ID Mobile, to see if this really was the case, here's the transcript......
Info: We've received your chat request. An agent will be with you shortly.
Info: You're chatting with Trevlynn.
Trevlynn: Welcome to our live chat service ****. My name is Lynn and I'm here to help you.
Me: Hi there. I'm interested in joining IDMobile, because I note you do Wifi Calling - and I have a Huawei Mate 10.
Me: This seems to be one of your supported devices, other than iPhones
Me: Is it specifically the Huawei Mate 10 or is it the Mate 10 Pro?
Trevlynn: Thanks for being so patient. I'll be with you shortly.
Trevlynn: Thank you for your patience with me ****. I can confirm that the device which is compatible with WiFi calling is Huawei Mate 10.
Me: Ok, and does the Hauwei Mate 10 need to be running any particular firmware? The Huawei Mate 10 was released in Europe, Asia and China. - not specifically in the UK - will it support the European and Asian firmwares?
Trevlynn: Yes, that is correct ****.
Me: So, just to confirm.... all regions and all firmwares are supported by IDMobile for Wifi calling on the Huawei Mate 10? There don't appear to be any settings to enable Wifi calling on the phone - so it should just work?
Trevlynn: You just switch on Wi-Fi and make a call.
Me: And that works on all models of the Huawei Mate 10? Wow.
Trevlynn: Sorry for the delay. I'll be right with you.
Trevlynn: I'll be right with you.
Trevlynn: Thanks for waiting. I'll be with you in just a moment.
Trevlynn: Thanks for being so patient. I'll be with you shortly.
Trevlynn: Thank you for your patience with me ****, I apologise for the long wait. My system froze and would not allow me to respond to your chat. the only devices that allow Wi-Fi calling is listed on the link below:
https://www.idmobile.co.uk/help-and-advice/wifi-calling
Me: yes and it lists the Huawei Mate 10 - what I'm asking is - can you confirm that all versions and firmwares work?? Does it work with pay as you go? I don't want to move over to ID Mobile, only to find it doesn't work on my phone for some reason.
Trevlynn: You will only be able to make use of the feature if you have a monthly plan with us.
Me: So, just to confirm, ID Mobile are saying that Wifi Calling works with a Huawei Mate 10, any regional version. You just connect to Wifi and make a call?
Trevlynn: Thanks for waiting. I'll be with you in just a moment.
Trevlynn: Wi-Fi calling will work when you are unable to connect to either a 3G or 4G network and have a minimum of 2MB speed. This means that if you can use your internet in that area, you will be able to use Wi-Fi calling in that area.
Trevlynn: You will need to check your Wi-Fi call settings to activate and once it has been activated, you just need to switch on Wi-Fi and call.
Me: With a Huawei Mate 10, any regional version?
Trevlynn: With all the devices listed on the webpage, if you can use your internet in that area, you will be able to use Wi-Fi calling in that area.
Me: So any Huawei Mate 10?
Trevlynn: Yes, there is only one model.
Trevlynn: The Huawei Mate 10 Pro is a different model.
Me: Well yes, but there's also a European, Asian and Chinese version of the Mate 10. But I take it they all work from what you've said. I'll take out a one month contract with ID Mobile to make sure it works
Trevlynn: I'll be right with you.
Trevlynn: We will only be able to confirm the same for the model sold in the UK.
Me: It's not officially sold in the UK - but the Mate 10 Pro is. This is why it's confusing.
Me: I had to get mine from Hong Kong.
Trevlynn: I understand now, however the Pro is not listed on in the comparability range online.
Me: Ok - so I'll have to take a chance, if I take out a one month contract - it work on that contract yes? I'll do that now.
Trevlynn: You will have 30 day to test the services and return if it does not suit your needs.
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As you can see, I don't think the person I was speaking to was aware of there being multiple versions and firmwares of the same device. They do a bit of a politician and side-step fully confirming. They do categorically state it's not the Mate 10 Pro. I would be very surprised if they are actually supporting the Mate 10. Given that the phone was only updated to VoWIFI recently, I find this a bit hard to believe.
So given that ID Mobile allow a one month contract, I'm going to try it out......
I've got the pro on .129, and WiFi calling along with volte works perfectly on iD as it does three. Worked straight out of the box, unlike Vodafone where I had to get it activated on my account.
Thasscas44 said:
I've got the pro on .129, and WiFi calling along with volte works perfectly on iD as it does three. Worked straight out of the box, unlike Vodafone where I had to get it activated on my account.
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See that makes sense. I think ID Mobile have gotten it wrong and they support the Mate 10 Pro. But we'll see.
Do you have settings to turn it off and on? I don't. But maybe that's a network thing.
They've definitely got it wrong as it's working on my Mate 10 Pro!
Yes I have a WiFi calling option in the 'mobile network' menu. Nothing for volte - there's no ability to switch that on or off, it just seems to work and if it does you can't opt out.
Good luck with the standard Mate on iD, hopefully it's got a similar WiFi calling configuration to the pro so could work.
Hi!
So I've bought a Samsung S9 Duos recently and to be honest, although I like the phone and have been on a Samsung streak for the past few years, I'm getting seriously tired of their country dependant shenanigans. Because I live in Canada, when I buy a Global phone there's a bunch of stuff that either doesn't work or does only partially. And because the Canadian model is a SD proc, not an Exynos, it's an absolute nightmare to switch CSCs and get everything working right...
I hesitated long and hard to get a P20 pro, but the fact it wasn't available anywhere in Canada made me nervous. But my carrier (Rogers) recently announced it so, being really tired of this Samsung ****e, I'm considering returning the S9 and getting the P20 pro (even if it doesn't have a lot of stuff I like such as the headphone jack, SD card and wireless charging).
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My question is, if I get an international (dual SIM) model of the P20 pro, is it going to be different than the Canadian one? Is there an equivalent of CSC codes with Samsung that I have to worry about, or can I assume it will be the same phone and I just need to activate it to get carrier specifics?
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I'm not an expert, but before I bought my P20 Pro, I made sure that it worked with the AT&T's network frequency bands. Each network has different bands and if the phone doesn't support the band, it won't connect.
https://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/...sm-cdma-wcdma-lte-verizon-att-sprint-tmobile/
https://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
Here are the tech specs from Huawei:
4G FDD-LTE, TD-LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B6/B7/B8/B9/B12/B17/B18/B19/B20/B26/B28/B32/B34/B38/B39/B40
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B4/B5/B6/B8/B19
https://consumer.huawei.com/uk/phones/m/p20-pro/tech-specs/
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I'm not an expert, but before I bought my P20 Pro, I made sure that it worked with the AT&T's network frequency bands. Each network has different bands and if the phone doesn't support the band, it won't connect.]
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Thanks for the input. I checked the bands for sure, and they are covered since it will be sold on my carrier soon. I guess what I meant is more the model itself, if there are variants per country or if we (Canada) are getting the same global version.
You see I come from a Samsung user's background and they have these silly country codes that dictate what you can use and where. I'm not sure it's related, but I found that even if on paper all LTE bands are covered with my S9, it still has shoddy reception compared to a Canadian S7. I could try to flash my CSC code to the phone, but a) it's complicated and risks bricking the phone and b) since the Canadian model is NOT the same as the global one, my CSC cannot be applied to this phone no matter how hard I try...
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Thanks for the input. I checked the bands for sure, and they are covered since it will be sold on my carrier soon. I guess what I meant is more the model itself, if there are variants per country or if we (Canada) are getting the same global version.
You see I come from a Samsung user's background and they have these silly country codes that dictate what you can use and where. I'm not sure it's related, but I found that even if on paper all LTE bands are covered with my S9, it still has shoddy reception compared to a Canadian S7. I could try to flash my CSC code to the phone, but a) it's complicated and risks bricking the phone and b) since the Canadian model is NOT the same as the global one, my CSC cannot be applied to this phone no matter how hard I try...
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FunkyHuawei offers a rebranding tool, which changes the region of the ROM. I used it because I bought mine from a Chinese e-commerce website. I rebranded to European region.
I couldn't find anything about International or Global versions of the phone. I know they are region locked, but the rebranding tool will fix that. You can also flash a firmware from FunkHuawei or use HuRUpdater tool from TWRP custom recovery.
I have used both tools, and had 100% success.
https://funkyhuawei.club/rebranding
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/development/tool-flash-official-firmware-recovery-t3769279/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-1-0-t3779400
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
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FunkyHuawei offers a rebranding tool, which changes the region of the ROM. I used it because I bought mine from a Chinese e-commerce website. I rebranded to European region.
I couldn't find anything about International or Global versions of the phone. I know they are region locked, but the rebranding tool will fix that. You can also flash a firmware from FunkHuawei or use HuRUpdater tool from TWRP custom recovery.
I have used both tools, and had 100% success.
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Cool thanks, I'll see how this could help me out. I'm giving my S9 one last chance but short of that, I'll cough up another $1000 for this phone; I just don't want to end up in the same trap!
So, after many frustrating hours on the phone with different Samsung agents who insisted that the US S21 Ultra supports eSIM (but couldn't get it to work), one agent finally admitted that eSIM is not enabled "as of now". This is despite the fact that Samsung expressly promised eSIM functionality on their US website:
"Does Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G support eSIM?
Yes, you can use an electronic SIM, known as eSIM, with Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G. The eSIM allows you to activate a mobile network plan right on your phone, so you can switch data plans or add an overseas phone number without the physical Nano SIM."
https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s21-ultra-5g/#!
As of this post, the above Q&A is still on Samsung's US website. Isn't this blatant fraud? Where can I file a complaint?
While I am still within the return window, simply getting a refund isn't good enough as I already paid money to my carrier to convert my physical SIM into an eSIM in anticipation of being able to use it with my S 21 Ultra.
Until the carriers enable the eSim they will not work. It has been disabled or not enable from all US carriers for a reason. No one knows exactly why. My guess is compatibility, or issues arising. Who knows. It is supposed to be enabled but no set date has ever been given. The same thing happened with the Note and s20. As much as I would love the eSim support is just won't happen for a bit.
Also do note if you scroll down it does say "The Galaxy S21 does not currently support eSim in the U.S."
I am not sure why people seriously keep falling for the eSim instead of reading the several post regarding it in the previous years posts.
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Until the carriers enable the eSim they will not work. It has been disabled or not enable from all US carriers for a reason. No one knows exactly why. My guess is compatibility, or issues arising. Who knows. It is supposed to be enabled but no set date has ever been given. The same thing happened with the Note and s20. As much as I would love the eSim support is just won't happen for a bit.
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That logic doesn't make sense when it comes to the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung's website. Also my eSIM is from an international carrier and not a US carrier, and it works on my previous Samsung device (bought in Asia).
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Also do note if you scroll down it does say "The Galaxy S21 does not currently support eSim in the U.S."
I am not sure why people seriously keep falling for the eSim instead of reading the several post regarding it in the previous years posts.
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They changed it a few days after the launch. The previous Q&A was as shown in my quote above. I scrolled through the website carefully (including reading the endnotes) and there was no such caveat previously.
Also, I am new to the US and was not aware of this issue previously. I have used Samsung devices in Asia for many years and never had this issue. I'm not sure why US customers put up with this blatant fraud if it is happening each time.
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That logic doesn't make sense when it comes to the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung's website. Also my eSIM is from an international carrier and not a US carrier, and it works on my previous Samsung device (bought in Asia).
They changed it a few days after the launch. The previous Q&A was as shown in my quote above. I scrolled through the website carefully (including reading the endnotes) and there was no such caveat previously.
Also, I am new to the US and was not aware of this issue previously. I have used Samsung devices in Asia for many years and never had this issue. I'm not sure why US customers put up with this blatant fraud if it is happening each time.
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Because the unlocked version has to work with those carriers, and having esim support turned on could lead to more issues than what is currently out there. Samsung has disabled it so you don't have droves of people going to carriers saying service doesn't work when the carriers haven't supported the phones for eSim. Because those carriers will send you right back to Samsung for warranty exchanges. Costing Samsung money.
The phones do support eSim. It is no different than the phones disabling bands depending on csc. Also the US unlocked versions apply the csc based on the carrier, also why the eSim is disabled. Its not fraud. The information isn't fraud
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Until the carriers enable the eSim they will not work. It has been disabled or not enable from all US carriers for a reason. No one knows exactly why. My guess is compatibility, or issues arising. Who knows. It is supposed to be enabled but no set date has ever been given. The same thing happened with the Note and s20. As much as I would love the eSim support is just won't happen for a bit.
Also do note if you scroll down it does say "The Galaxy S21 does not currently support eSim in the U.S."
I am not sure why people seriously keep falling for the eSim instead of reading the several post regarding it in the previous years posts.
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Does it mean s21 ultra supports esim?
works on mine - Vodafone UK - been with an esim since s20 and now also on s21
makes no difference really to being on a sim or e-sim
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Does it mean s21 ultra supports esim?
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All of the phones support it but have it disabled on purpose because the carriers do not support it. Its like the S21 supports N71 and band 71 but on ATT CSC those bands are disabled.
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All of the phones support it but have it disabled on purpose because the carriers do not support it. Its like the S21 supports N71 and band 71 but on ATT CSC those bands are disabled.
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The Samsung website quoted above only says s21 and s21 plus doesn't support esim. Doesn't say about s21 ultra
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The Samsung website quoted above only says s21 and s21 plus doesn't support esim. Doesn't say about s21 ultra
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They are saying you can't use them in the US. The devices have the hardware already included in the devices. They are disabled. The same with the Ultra, as it has been the same for the last years worth of phones
Same in canada. Its been a coming soon with an update feature for years now. Another small thing I miss about my pixel.
I wonder if this is why i can not get my s21 U to take an upgraded T mobile sim. I have been trying since Friday to get the Upgraded network sim from T mobile to install on my phone. I had been on sprint and since the merger last year my sprint connections had been getting progressively worse as the year went on - dropped calls and phone going into roaming mode at home for example, I had a note 10+ i traded in for the s21U and about 3 weeks ago was able to ditch the old sprint sim for the new t mobile one on the note and what a difference ! So anyway, i have been into a t mobile store a couple time and they could not get the t mobile sim to activate, and called sprint a couple times to try and activate it and they could not either but was finally able to active a sprint sim which i dont want. They had said that my s21 was not for some reason compatible with the new t mobile sim. I got the 512gb S21 ultra unlocked direct from samsung.
Disabled esim...
Is it because Samsung is weak compared to Apple or Google? Can't stand up to US carriers?
They can't say it is not compatible with carriers when Apple already went through the motions and is not compatible with all the carriers. They could have used this excuse two phones ago but for us to be having this discussion now is uncalled for. I'm returning this crap now until Samsung stops committing this fraud on its customers and gets its act together.
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They can't say it is not compatible with carriers when Apple already went through the motions and is not compatible with all the carriers. They could have used this excuse two phones ago but for us to be having this discussion now is uncalled for. I'm returning this crap now until Samsung stops committing this fraud on its customers and gets its act together.
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Agreed!
NasTraDooMis said:
I wonder if this is why i can not get my s21 U to take an upgraded T mobile sim. I have been trying since Friday to get the Upgraded network sim from T mobile to install on my phone. I had been on sprint and since the merger last year my sprint connections had been getting progressively worse as the year went on - dropped calls and phone going into roaming mode at home for example, I had a note 10+ i traded in for the s21U and about 3 weeks ago was able to ditch the old sprint sim for the new t mobile one on the note and what a difference ! So anyway, i have been into a t mobile store a couple time and they could not get the t mobile sim to activate, and called sprint a couple times to try and activate it and they could not either but was finally able to active a sprint sim which i dont want. They had said that my s21 was not for some reason compatible with the new t mobile sim. I got the 512gb S21 ultra unlocked direct from samsung.
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My S21 Ultra works fine with the T-Mobile R15 SIM. To be fair, though, I think I might have activated it on my iPhone 12 Pro Max first and then just dropped it in the S21 Ultra. I don't remember now. But it should work.
It pays off to do some research before dropping a stack of cash on a smartphone. All this fuss over eSIM. Carrier's in the US don't want to give their subscribers the option to switch Service Provider's, they lose money. Same reason no Dual-Sim devices are offered by US Carriers. Samsung could lean on them to enable eSIM but for whatever reason they won't. Simple solution, buy a Non-US S21 Ultra Dual Nano-SIM device.
Hi, in Russia e-sim it works perfectly on all operators( carriers). Its very strange why in US you have this problem.
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It pays off to do some research before dropping a stack of cash on a smartphone. All this fuss over eSIM. Carrier's in the US don't want to give their subscribers the option to switch Service Provider's, they lose money. Same reason no Dual-Sim devices are offered by US Carriers. Samsung could lean on them to enable eSIM but for whatever reason they won't. Simple solution, buy a Non-US S21 Ultra Dual Nano-SIM device.
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It's true except for the fact that if you want 5G in the US, the non-US dual sim samsung devices don't have the appropriate bands for it. So you get dual sim but no US 5G.
I confirm esim working in S21 Ultra Snapdragon SM-G998U1 in Android 12 Colombia Bogota but keep in mind that in Colombia the esim only works with movistar
Hello everyone,
Could you help me answering my questions?
I'm planning to buy Samsung S21 Ultra, so I was searching for good prices here and there...
I found out that on Samsung US, it is much cheaper (Unlocked version), moreover, you'll get 250$ credit value to buy other accessories, while Samsung Canada is way too expensive without such promotions!
I tried to place the order through Samsung US and to type the shipping address to Canada .m.but unfortunately it wasn't working!
My two questions as following:
1- Is there anyway to get the S21 Ultra to Canada from Samsung US?
2- I heard that I might face problems in connection compatibility (even with the unlocked version), especially the 5G as it won't be compatible with the Canadian courriers ....so is that true? Will I face any problem if I buy S21 Ultra from Samsung US to Canada?
Will appreciate your replies ...
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Depending on your carrier in Canada, Wifi Calling and VoLTE may not/will not work. Here is a long thread about purchasing from the US etc. This will answer all your questions:
[Samsung USA] Samsung USA S21 Trade-In Deal Thread - RedFlagDeals.com Forums
i have the W version with the US U1 software on it (I love ODIN) and works it great on Telus for 5G (except the Wi-Fi calling; Telus asks for your number and then it never connects but I also have a partner account so maybe that is why). On Freedom Mobile/Shaw Mobile with the U1 software, everything works (except 5G as that is not available for everyone yet).
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May I know which re-shipping company had you dealt with? Any recommendations?
peterg21 said:
Depending on your carrier in Canada, Wifi Calling and VoLTE may not/will not work. Here is a long thread about purchasing from the US etc. This will answer all your questions:
[Samsung USA] Samsung USA S21 Trade-In Deal Thread - RedFlagDeals.com Forums
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May I know which re-shipping company had you dealt with? Any recommendations?
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i have the W version with the US U1 software on it (I love ODIN) and works it great on Telus for 5G (except the Wi-Fi calling; Telus asks for your number and then it never connects but I also have a partner account so maybe that is why). On Freedom Mobile/Shaw Mobile with the U1 software, everything works (except 5G as that is not available for everyone yet).
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Thanks
May I know which re-shipping company had you dealt with? Any recommendations?
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May I know which re-shipping company had you dealt with? Any recommendations?
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It is the Canadian version bought in Canada flashed with the US U1 software