I haven't compared Note 4 and Note 8 side by side, but it appears to me that despite having a much larger overall screen estate, the Note 8's width in portrait orientation might be narrower than the Note 4? I don't think I've seen screen specs that would somehow factor in the curved sides (i.e. lost effective screen estate) of the Note 8.
In other words, do 16:9 videos appear smaller on the Note 8 than on the Note 4? And e-books: I'm guessing they would need to have slightly wider side margins to avoid letters being distorted by the curved edge (though, of course, more text would fit overall, due to the larger vertical screen estate)?
And while I'm at it - and coming from Note 4 and never having owned a curved screen phone - isn't it distracting that two edges of the video frame are curved (distorting the peripheral image and dispersing light) while the sides are "cut sharp" by letterboxing?
I hope I don't come across as a "hater", because I'm not, far from it. I'm still happy with my fully functional Note 4, just considering my options and trying to get a grasp on the new fancy tech...
The physical size should be very similar watching a 16:9 video on both however the perceived size would likely be the Note 8 being smaller due to the curved edges which would frame the video content and the black border on either side.
The best way to see if you are comfortable with the curved edges (they are a good thing and a bad thing in equal measure) is to just pop to a store and compare your existing device with the store model.
As I say perceived size and real physical are often different.
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Hey Guys,
It has been two months since I switched from my iPhone 4 to the Galaxy Note and I haven't touched the iPhone since I bought the Note until yesterday to factory reset it and give it to a friend when I noticed that the iPhone's display looked better (higher resolution) than the galaxy note!! I felt that my Note has a bluish tone to its display?!?! Is this normal or do I have a faulty note? Please help!!
The iPhone 4 has a higher PPI (Pixels Per Inch), so the iPhone's screen is sharper. But the Note's screen is far from bad. Can you post a pic of your screen? (Not a screenshot) And try to get a good pic.
I am at work right now. Will post pics of the Note once I get back home (Can't post pics of iPhone and Note together cos I gave the iPhone away). I am not saying that the Note's display was bad but when I placed them side by side I could tell that the iPhone's display was better easily. I thought the Note should beat the iPhone in display easily because of the Note's higher resolution.
itismadhan said:
... I am not saying that the Note's display was bad but when I placed them side by side I could tell that the iPhone's display was better easily. I thought the Note should beat the iPhone in display easily because of the Note's higher resolution.
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iPhone 4 (and 4s) has smaller screen, but higher resolution: 3.5 inches 960 × 640 px at 326 ppi. So it's screen shows more detail than the one on the Note.
I played with iPhone 4s and the Note side by side and would agree that movies, for example, often look "better" on the iPhone, especially the darker sciens. Although the overall picture is smaller, the iPhone's super LCD screen tends to give "more natural" look to a video than the super AMOLED screen on the Note, especially if the quality of the video encoding is not that great. In my experience anyway...
That being said, the quality of screens on the Note appears to vary quite a bit. There's a couple of rather long and active threads here discussing the screen issues...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336187
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344714
I went to some cellular stores to get my hands on the Note 7 for a little bit. The first thing I noticed is that the Galaxy Note 7 is smaller (narrow) in your hands than my old Galaxy Note 2. Outside of the curve of the screen the screen real estate between my Note 2 and the Note 7 is about the same. Just feels so weird holding the Note 7 with the same basic screen real estate as my Note 2 and yet feels so much more narrow. I had to keep putting the two Galaxy devices together screen to screen to remind myself that the straight part of the screen real estate is basically the same. The 0.2in more is really the curves of the screen itself. Just so weird.
Not a bad thing. In fact basically the curve of the glass being the bezel on the sides is the reason that Note 7 is more narrow. It fits more natural in my hands without having trouble reaching over the device with my fingers. I like that.
The only downside is now it leaves me with the feel of wanting a little larger size screen like maybe 6".
I having hard time waiting to tryout the features that I been missing from my Galaxy Note 2. The stores take away the stylus. So I wait for my preorder Galaxy Note7 SM-N930TZKATMB (Black Onyx).
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I went to some cellular stores to get my hands on the Note 7 for a little bit. The first thing I noticed is that the Galaxy Note 7 is smaller (narrow) in your hands than my old Galaxy Note 2. Outside of the curve of the screen the screen real estate between my Note 2 and the Note 7 is about the same. Just feels so weird holding the Note 7 with the same basic screen real estate as my Note 2 and yet feels so much more narrow. I had to keep putting the two Galaxy devices together screen to screen to remind myself that the straight part of the screen real estate is basically the same. The 0.2in more is really the curves of the screen itself. Just so weird.
Not a bad thing. In fact basically the curve of the glass being the bezel on the sides is the reason that Note 7 is more narrow. It fits more natural in my hands without having trouble reaching over the device with my fingers. I like that.
The only downside is now it leaves me with the feel of wanting a little larger size screen like maybe 6".
I having hard time waiting to tryout the features that I been missing from my Galaxy Note 2. The stores take away the stylus. So I wait for my preorder Galaxy Note7 SM-N930TZKATMB (Black Onyx).
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I agree, it bugs that after all this time they haven't gotten a little bit bigger. I'm just glad i kept my note 4 by skipping the note 5. I watch tv on my phone everyday on my lunch break, but I'm not gonna be gaining any screen size compared to the S7E I'm using now (only because of the BOGO deal, the wife got the other one).
You will get used to curve the display the N7 is actually a better fit in the hand than the S7E IMO. I have a S7E and loved the feel of the N7. I think you will appreciate the reduction in the weight difference between the N7 and the N2
I went to local T-mobile store to see it on Aug 4th. Comparing to my current iPhone 6 plus, Note 7 is almost the same size and it's narrow. Really good design.
I just got my Note7 case today and I was able to put my Note5 in it. They are almost exactly the same size. The sides didn't fit right of course since the Note5 doesn't have the edge screen but overall it was a very close fit. When I briefly looked at the Note7 at Costco, it did look skinny for sure.
Hi. Was wondering about the screen dimensions of mi mix. If you check Xiaomi's website it says there is a 17:9 ratio in screen dimension which implies the width of screen, for a 6.4 inch diagonal, is 3.3882 inches. But on the same website the total width of phone is 81.9 mm which converts to 3.244 inches! So would someone mind carefully measuring the width of the screen. In many respects this is more important to me than the actual diagonal size. Thanks!
http://www.mi.com/en/mix/specs/
Using a regular transparent plastic ruler, below are the measurements as accurately as I can muster:
- The entire width of the phone (including the thick ceramic edge plus button protrusion) is 8.15 cm = 3.208661 inches
- The entire width of the screen from top (including a bit of the ceramic edge, no buttons) is 8.05 cm = 3.169291 inches
- The viewable screen (lit-up portion) width is 7.51 cm = 2.956693 inches
- The viewable screen (lit-up portion) diagonal itself does measure 6.4 inch
Hope that answers your question.
So according to your measurements, the size of the side bezels (both sides altogether) would equal 6.4mm. That's bigger than my Mi 5S's side bezels of 5.08mm...
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So according to your measurements, the size of the side bezels (both sides altogether) would equal 6.4mm. That's bigger than my Mi 5S's side bezels of 5.08mm...
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Although your measurement doesnt sound right, if its so; thats a shame for Xiaomi for naming the mix as 'bezel less'
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Although your measurement doesnt sound right, if its so; thats a shame for Xiaomi for naming the mix as 'bezel less'
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What's wrong with my measurements? Anyways, I have always believed that Xiaomi exaggerated a bit by calling the Mix "bezelless" since even with my eyes, I can see that all they did (which is still impressive btw) is reduce the top bezel. The two side bezels are as thick, if not thicker than most modern flagship phones.
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What's wrong with my measurements? Anyways, I have always believed that Xiaomi exaggerated a bit by calling the Mix "bezelless" since even with my eyes, I can see that all they did (which is still impressive btw) is reduce the top bezel. The two side bezels are as thick, if not thicker than most modern flagship phones.
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Agreed. Granted, the drastic reduction of top bezel, at least for me, does absolute wonders in making this a joy to use, but size bezels are not noticeably smaller than most phones and bigger than some of the mainstream phones out there.
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So according to your measurements, the size of the side bezels (both sides altogether) would equal 6.4mm. That's bigger than my Mi 5S's side bezels of 5.08mm...
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You need to measure diagonally to get 6.4 not across. Anyway the surface area of a 16:9 and a 17:9 is totally different even if their screen size is the same.
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You need to measure diagonally to get 6.4 not across. Anyway the surface area of a 16:9 and a 17:9 is totally different even if their screen size is the same.
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Can you actually prove me wrong then with actual calculations? Because I already know what you said and I factored them into my calculations so I don't see where the problem is. Obviously 6.4" is a diagonal measurement, anyone knows that. By the way, I used this article from The Verge as a reference.
The measurements I used for the Mi 5S's physical size were official measurements and for the Mi Mix, I used wendyalison's measurements (if I used official measurements for the Mi Mix, then the bezels would've been even bigger because they're a little wider than wendyalison's measurements).
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Can you actually prove me wrong then with actual calculations? Because I already know what you said and I factored them into my calculations so I don't see where the problem is. Obviously 6.4" is a diagonal measurement, anyone knows that. By the way, I used this article from The Verge as a reference.
The measurements I used for the Mi 5S's physical size were official measurements and for the Mi Mix, I used wendyalison's measurements (if I used official measurements for the Mi Mix, then the bezels would've been even bigger because they're a little wider than wendyalison's measurements).
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Since the Mi5s is 5.15" and Mi Mix is 6.4", even with a difference in ratio, the mix should be wider than the Mi5s or are you trying to prove otherwise?
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Since the Mi5s is 5.15" and Mi Mix is 6.4", even with a difference in ratio, the mix should be wider than the Mi5s or are you trying to prove otherwise?
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Of course not, I simply said the side bezels are wider. I never said the screen of the Mix was not wider than the 5S.
As it has a 5.5" screen and the 2016 headset is wider, can you see only the screen display with peripheral vision or can you see a little of the bezel?
Also if you were to cut away some of the black housing to increase FOV, would you definitely see some of the bezel?
Perhaps someone could be kind enough to measure both the 5.5 and 5.7 screen lengths and also the width of the 2016 aperture length.
Anyone?
I've got the SM-R323 (released in 2016 I believe) and the S7 edge and can't see any bezels.
I did a quick measurement of my S7 edge screen height and it's roughly 123-124mm - you should be able to find more exact measurements online. The gear VR measurement on your image is about 114-115mm.
However the phone may not be perfectly centered over the available area so you'll likely run into problems. The phones exact horizontal position is not easily adjustable.
Thank you Cederic. I thought i needed to get a 5.7" phone for good FOV and no bezels seen through lenses. Now it seems 5.5" is enough.
Note 4 just died. It was OK: stylus is great; performance and battery life poor compared to previous Lumia 1520. Thinking of replacing with a Note 5 or a Q Stylus. Camera quality is not important.
Note 5 pros:
Build quality looks good.
Note 5 cons:
Very hard to find a standard 64GB model (920C I think). Easy to find carrier-modded models (like 920A) which are not guaranteed to have basic features like VoLTE.
No microSD support.
Doesn't have the latest android version, and won't get future android versions.
Q Stylus pros:
More power efficient than Note 5.
Q Stylus cons:
Rounded corners, but less of a problem since the screen is elongated so you can fit a good size 16:9 rectangle inside.
Q Stylus unknowns:
Display quality (contrast, color fidelity) unknown.
Assuming subpixel rendering isn't supported (commonly not on Android), text on a 1080p screen will not be sharp.
I am assuming performance of the two devices will be similar.
Still undecided. Anything I am missing? Thanks.
Note8 prices have are falling very quickle, even more now that the Note9 is real. Invest a little more in a newer phone.
I don't want the curved screen edges of later Samsung phones. They distort images and brightnesses and reflections and I would want therefore to switch the edges off. On the Note 8 that would make an already too narrow screen even narrower.