I've rooted before but not with Xiaomi devices. I understand you need to install the developer ROM to unlock the bootloader before rooting. Will unlocking the bootloader OR rooting void the warranty?
I read somewhere that a user had to 'get permission' from Xiaomi every-time he wanted to enable Debug mode? Is this true with an un-rooted phone? What about a rooted phone?
Thanks
Hey there! Unlocking bootloader in an official way won't affect your warranty (Well, there is no yet different way to unlock then the official through Xiaomi). Rooting your phone won't void the warranty, but it mostly depends on your seller and their terms of the warranty. You need to get permission for unlocking your bootloader, and it can take from 1 day to 2-3 weeks. Mostly, you get it after a day or 2, but it really depends how "lucky" are you, also, after getting the permission, it takes more 72 hours before you can actually use the permission to unlock the device. You can enable USB debugging and Developer settings without asking for any kind of permission if that's what you meant? Can you post a link to that user and its thread? Seems very strange and kind of bit funny.
I understand. I read it somewhere in the MIUI forums but can't recall which one. There is a huge variation of abilities and experiences reflected there.
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Hello, i have a retail xt1097, its already updated to marshmallow, dont really need to be root forever but i need at least temporal root to do some one-time minor changes, such as install my desired launcher as system, led for battery, hostfile and such.
The problem is i dont want to unlock the bootloader untill warranty expires (still 7 months of warranty) so the question is if any app/exploit, can temp root this device, under MM.
*Tryed searching and i found kingoroot does the trick but im not sure if it will work on MM, i cant mess up bricking phones now because im not be able to repair them since weather its hot, people overload powerlines and electricity drops all the time and makes my pc suddently power off.
Any advice? Thanks guys
As far as I know root isn't possible with locked bootloader.
There has been quite a bit of discussion (I think most of what I read was on other forums) about Motorola's warranty policy for unlocked bootloaders: it seems that from what people have experienced they will still honor the warranty if it is strictly a hardware problem. I bought my phone used but with over a year of Moto Care remaining, which the original owner transferred to me. He (the original owner) had already unlocked the bootloader, but the Moto Care is still shown as active and valid on my account, even though I don't even have stock rom anymore. Just to be safe I would definitely (if possible) re-flash stock rom prior to making any warranty claim.
Hmm makes sense, then can i unlock BL, root, do my things, then unroot, flash stock recovery and relock? is that posible? does it need a custom kernel too? im ok with the stock rom just need few one-time tweaks...
Unless you really use Moto Voice a lot I would just install the newly released CM14.1, and if you ever need warranty work try to reflash stock beforehand. Otherwise, flash twrp, root, etc.... That is covered in the general section, probably linked to some of the stickies at the top of the page. I'm not sure if it will work for you to make system modifications and then try to relock bootloader. I think part of relocking the bootloader includes flashing the stock rom, which would undo any changes you have made.
As i am coming from Samsung, i want to know if there is any risk of loosing functions that are protected???
With sony, it were some camera functions i lost when i rooted it, on my note 3 it was the efuse etc...
So is there anything i have to worry about?
Bolvaron said:
As i am coming from Samsung, i want to know if there is any risk of loosing functions that are protected???
With sony, it were some camera functions i lost when i rooted it, on my note 3 it was the efuse etc...
So is there anything i have to worry about?
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Rooting itself does nothing that you mentioned.
Using a firmware other than the one intended or flashing outside of the natural progression which was intended is what breaks those things
Samsung- efuse chip is triggered when you use Odin, not rooting.
With Sony when I had a Z1 it was using a non standard ROM or: Cm or aosp which meant the standard savers didn't work as it wasn't ported unless they really tightened up their DRM.
In this regard its the same, but the camera has already been ported, its in the ROM section of this forum, so no worry there, I don't know if there is an efuse chip on the Huawei but I do know they're funny about bootloaders being unlocked and further modifying so there may be a way for them to know and they'll probably blame any issues as a result of that regardless of what it is if they can prove it.
That being said there are reports of users who've totally bricked their phones and already have replacements so I would say it depends.
With unlocking the bootloader and modifying your phone against the advice of OEM's always carries a risk, so it's up to you if you continue.
Personally I'll do what I want with my phone, by buying it it's my choice and I'll do what I want.
Can't you root the p20 pro without unlocking the bootloader?
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Can't you root the p20 pro without unlocking the bootloader?
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No, first of All you need to do is unlock the bootloader.
I came also from Samsung, i unlocked my P20 pro and then i rooted. And i had no impairment.
Regards
Okay, thanks for your answers. So ill root mine too, got my bootloader unlock code from huawei.
I suppose you loose warranty the moment you use the bootloader code. P.s. how do you request a code?
Thx
varignet said:
I suppose you loose warranty the moment you use the bootloader code. P.s. how do you request a code?
Thx
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Check out guides on this forum. There are quite a few places that explain how to do it.
For example a thread has all info: [GUIDE] - How to root debrand and/or remove Retail mode for P20pro CLT-L29
Can't post any links yet gotta get through my first 10 posts.
Hi all,
Is there a way to root the zenfone 8 without tripping knox? Reading about the ramdump issues has made me want to keep the device in a state that I can reverse and send back if need be (at least for a while).
Cheers
Knox in an Asus phone? It's a Samsung thing.
There is no KNOX.
But if you unlock your bootloader - then ASUS will receive your s/n of motherboard and you will loose your warranty permanently. I heard that in some EU countries it should'n be a problem, but personally I have never had such law practice.
So wait for other replies or contact your area ASUS support.
Ah, okay thanks. Am I correct in thinking there is no root that can be done without unlocking bootloader and flashing a patched boot img? Sorry if these are silly questions, it has been a while for me!
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Am I correct in thinking there is no root that can be done without unlocking bootloader
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That is correct. From what I understand; without an unlocked bootloader, nothing regarding boot images or system files are accessible.
Since Android 6 'regular' rooting requires an unlocked bootloader. There are exploit solutions like Kingoroot, which maybe still might work (not sure a bout this), but the problem with these dubious tools is, that you don't know what they really are doing, and how they possibly modify and monitor your phone and data from then on..
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Since Android 6 'regular' rooting requires an unlocked bootloader. There are exploit solutions like Kingoroot, which maybe still might work (not sure a bout this), but the problem with these dubious tools is, that you don't know what they really are doing, and how they possibly modify and monitor your phone and data from then on..
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Okay, thanks. Yeah, I don't think I want to travel down that road!
I just bought this phone. It's actually quite nice and better than I expected. Paid 475€ for it brand new in a store here in Italy. I'm coming from the good old XZ1 Compact, aka the best phone ever made. This seems to be a big (too big, tfw no phone under 5.5) improvement over it.
That being said, I was wondering how does Asus react to their phones being unlocked. I come from Sony which does not like unlocking, in fact on the XZ1 and XZ2, unlocking was permanent and you lost drm keys and stock features fOrEveR. How is it on this one? Does it void the warranty forever? Do you lose stock features after unlocking? Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I googled and searched all over but I find conflicting and contraddicting informations about this, on top of the usual ****ty websites with ai generated copypaste guides.
Thanks in advance.
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I just bought this phone. It's actually quite nice and better than I expected. Paid 475€ for it brand new in a store here in Italy. I'm coming from the good old XZ1 Compact, aka the best phone ever made. This seems to be a big (too big, tfw no phone under 5.5) improvement over it.
That being said, I was wondering how does Asus react to their phones being unlocked. I come from Sony which does not like unlocking, in fact on the XZ1 and XZ2, unlocking was permanent and you lost drm keys and stock features fOrEveR. How is it on this one? Does it void the warranty forever? Do you lose stock features after unlocking? Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I googled and searched all over but I find conflicting and contraddicting informations about this, on top of the usual ****ty websites with ai generated copypaste guides.
Thanks in advance.
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see the readme from the ASUS Unlock tool from here https://www.asus.com/de/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/HelpDesk_Download/
Unlock Device App
NOTICE:
Before you download, install, and use the Unlock Device App (“Service”), you understand that you need to take all risks in terms of quality and performance of the Service, including but not limited to: once you trigger the Service, you’re not able to recover your ASUS products to the original status at the time of manufacturing (“Original Product”) anymore. Original Products which is used with the Service (“Changed Product”) will no longer be regarded as the Original Products. The software updates will not be available to the Changed Product, and the digital content in the Changed Product may no longer be used. In addition, the software and hardware problems of your ASUS product caused by using the Service may not apply to your ASUS Warranty Information, please read ASUS Warranty Information of your ASUS product carefully on ASUS official website.(https://bacchus.asus.com/support/Article/1060/)
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>> Does it void the warranty forever?
I think so
>>Do you lose stock features after unlocking?
I did not find anything that did not work anymore after unlocking (but I tested only the functionality that is important for me ....)
>>Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I don't know if you can relock the phone but I doubt it.
You can reinstall the Original ASUS Firmware and it still works like before. You can also install the updates for the original OS manually (I did not test if OTA still works)
regards
Bernd
MarkMRL said:
I just bought this phone. It's actually quite nice and better than I expected. Paid 475€ for it brand new in a store here in Italy. I'm coming from the good old XZ1 Compact, aka the best phone ever made. This seems to be a big (too big, tfw no phone under 5.5) improvement over it.
That being said, I was wondering how does Asus react to their phones being unlocked. I come from Sony which does not like unlocking, in fact on the XZ1 and XZ2, unlocking was permanent and you lost drm keys and stock features fOrEveR. How is it on this one? Does it void the warranty forever? Do you lose stock features after unlocking? Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I googled and searched all over but I find conflicting and contraddicting informations about this, on top of the usual ****ty websites with ai generated copypaste guides.
Thanks in advance.
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To add to bnsmb's response,
When the phone is unlocked, some apps will not work, like google pay for example, but the bootloader can be relocked with one fastboot command and you will get all features back (except OTA updates from the settings, you will have to update manually)
(It is not recommended to relock the bootloader when not on the Stock Asus ROM)
To relock, simply type these two commands
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem asus-csc_lk
reboot
The phone will prompt you to do a factory reset when booting
Adaoh said:
To add to bnsmb's response,
When the phone is unlocked, some apps will not work, like google pay for example, but the bootloader can be relocked with one fastboot command and you will get all features back (except OTA updates from the settings, you will have to update manually)
(It is not recommended to relock the bootloader when not on the Stock Asus ROM)
To relock, simply type these two commands
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem asus-csc_lk
reboot
The phone will prompt you to do a factory reset when booting
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>>To relock, simply type these two commands
Good to know that but before I test it:
The phone can be unlocked again after the relock?
regards
Bernd
bnsmb said:
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>>To relock, simply type these two commands
Good to know that but before I test it:
The phone can be unlocked again after the relock?
regards
Bernd
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Yes, I have tried it once, but some people reported it does not work depending on the version, I tried on Android 12 and it worked the first time (and on android 11 but that was the first unlock a while ago)
Thank you for the info! I can't find the official manual or faq though, even from the link bnsmb provided :\
That's why I asked here in the first place. From what I can tell after looking through this info, they will know you have unlocked from the imei, considering their unlock tool talks to the mothership before doing the deed. It is still unclear if they will respect the warranty period even after unlocking. I don't care about asking them for support on an unlocked phone, I just want to make sure it will get repaired or replaced for free (in terms of money and hassle) if I get a defect down the line that is unrelated to the unlock, such as a hardwre failure or assembly defect.
Anyway, it seems the only way to shed light on this mystery is to ask Asus themselves. I will report back as soon as they respond to my questions.
Warranty with unlocked bootloader
The warning text of the unlock app links you to the Warranty Policy for ASUS Phones, where the relevant part reads:
6. Exclusions from this limited Warranty Service
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(m) Unusability or damage to hardware of the product caused by installing and using any kind of the Unlock Device App, which is a utility that will unlock your product’s boot loader but will render the warranty null and void.
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So yes as is usual, they will try to use "you having unlocked your bootloader" as an excuse to not repair their broken phones under warranty.
But, depending on your local consumer protection laws, there is a good chance this is actually illegal. In the EU for example, during the 2 years of required warranty THEY have to prove YOU that the defect was ACTUALLY CAUSED by you messing with the phone's software - which generally speaking they can't because it wasn't.
If you haven't seen it i recommend this thread for some details of people who have actually been in that situation - from what i saw after a quick glance through, 3 out of 3 people there got their unlocked&rooted phones replaced under warranty in the end, even it it took some effort to convince the support...
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If you haven't seen it i recommend this thread for some details of people who have actually been in that situation - from what i saw after a quick glance through, 3 out of 3 people there got their unlocked&rooted phones replaced under warranty in the end, even it it took some effort to convince the support...
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The linked thread does tell that one person was successful with the ASUS support, "all other" unfortunately not, see e.g. post #6.
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The linked thread does tell that one person was successful with the ASUS support, "all other" unfortunately not, see e.g. post #6.
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Reading posts #31 and #38 i am pretty sure the person from post #6 did not have to play in the end as well. I also can't see anyone else in there who reported they tried to get unlocked phone replaced and didn't
Ups my fault, I have not seen the posts after #20 ... So it seems the warranty (given by law) is not void but the guarantee is (given by the company).
Anyway, in the meantime, Asus replied to me saying that if you unlock you lose your entire warranty no matter what. I reiterated, asking if I will also lose my right to a free repair for issues totally unrelated to the unlock, and they said yes, you will lose every right to repair.
So that is the official stance!
Too bad, I'm still in the return period so I might just get rid of it and hunt for a Pixel 5. Kind of sad though, the phone performed pretty well for me so far. But I need muh root and eventually LineageOS...
Hi all, i don't follow modding world from a while so i don't know what happened more or less into the last 3 years, so now that i need to root the device i wanted to do some questions.
I bought a realme 8 pro at the dayone and now i have the last update installed (so realme UI 4.0). I wanted to do the root but i don't know how much realme support it, if the bootloader is locked or not, ecc. ecc.
I saw in this phone thread that there is a method (the guide is written in May, 14 so it seems very recent) about unlocking bootloader (so i guess is locked?) using deeptest, i tried to read but i didn't really understand what kind of thing is that. So i wanted to ask, what is deeptest? if it is locked, if i successfuly unlock this bootloader what happens to AIO updates? (I guess there will be no updates such as other devices?). If the AIO updates stop to work, Is there a way to manually download and install updates? Can i root this device using magisk for example? I have seen there is something, but there are these things i can't understand.
Thanks in advance for replies and sorry for my bad english.
Hi, yup, the bootloader is locked.
Deeptesting is an app by realme used to request an unlock code. You can try this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unlock-bootloader-help.4425415/post-86777721
Try submitting your application, if it tells you "Your model doesn't support deeptesting" you'll have to follow my guide.
Either way, after a bit of waiting, inside Deeptesting → query approve result → start Deeptesting.
Doing this allows your phone to boot into fastboot. Where you can unlock your phone using
Code:
fastboot flashing unlock
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your data.
Hi, thanks for the reply! So there is a method to unlock the bootloader. But if i do it, i can't update anymore my device via OTA, right? How could i do that thing. In addiction, is not possible to obtain root permission without bootloader unlock? Because i need root to save whatsapp messages 'cause the application is stupid and can't do a backup by itself.
In addiction... I downloaded deeptesting and my phone does not support it. Yeah
You can get OTAs if, and only if, you didn't modify the firmware. Unlocking itself doesn't break OTAs, but rooting/custom kernels/vbmetas etc. will.
You can't get root without unlocking. As per Whatsapp, I think you can use ADB to back up data without root.
Thanks again. As i know ADB is disabled for whatsapp from a while. Ok then, thanks anyway for all informations. I guess after the bootloader unlock i can install magisk to obtain root acces.