Has anyone noticed in their Note 8 or S8+/S8 what has happened to Smart Lock? - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.

sll1313 said:
Recently, in my Note 8, no matter what I do, I’m having issues with Smart Lock. Specifically when I’m at home with Trusted Places. It works with the other Smart Lock areas, just not the Trusted Places. I thought if i shutoff WiFi, I fixed it. But, no. It still doesn’t work. About 2 weeks ago, it was working flawlessly. Obviously if the phone wasn’t used for 4 hours, I would have to use a method to unlock my phone, but after that when I was at home it would open without entering any method to unlock the phone. Anyone have this issue? If so, any solutions? I’ve tried so many and I’m getting tired and frustrated. I really don’t want a feature that’s been working on many Android phone including this one for years, make me resent this phone. Not sure if resent is the right word, but I’m sure everyone knows what I’m talking about. What is with Samsung, from how they handled the Note 7 fiasco (I got a lot more help through Verizon), not bringing back the original S Note app, constantly giving us great features then taking them away, etc. I can keep going on and on. If there was another Android phone that had a S Pen comparable to theirs, I really think they would be in trouble with how they are treating us consumers. I’m just really frustrated. Hopefully someone can help with this issue, that shouldn’t be. But based on my Google search, it looks like I’m not the only one. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.

Works fine for me
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Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)

Jammol said:
Do you have an Exchange account of some kind on the device? My corporate email disables Trusted Places in my device, but sometimes it kicks in and works for a brief period of time.
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Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.

SteelPicori said:
Actually had the same issue, had to add my current location under smartlock Trusted places (even though it shows as identical address to home)
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I’ve tried this, too. I’ve also tried different locations on my street and it was working, but then stopped again. Open to other suggestions.

sll1313 said:
Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?

Jammol said:
Oh okay. Only other thing I can think of is software update that was released about that time. Can you try a factory reset after backing up your data?
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Thanks for the quick response. I appreciate the thought, but I was trying to figure out another way. I finally got the original S Note app with Action Memo, Photo Note, Idea Sketch, Sketchbook, Easy Chart, etc. on the phone and I really don’t want to take any chances that I lose that app. It’s my favorite app for the Note. Still shocked that Samsung changed it to Samsung Notes. However, you gave me an idea. I normally wipe cache partition when I do updates and I forgot after the last security update. So I just did it and Trusted Places is working so far. Hopefully it continues. Thanks for the suggestion! If this holds up, I will let you know and then I’ll just have to remember to do that after each OTA.

My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
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EVObastard said:
My wife and I use smart lock location at home, hers stopped working 2 days ago and mine stopped yesterday. Must have been an update to an app that is killing it.
Just spoke with a Samsung rep and have a possible solution
Settings >> Apps >> more options ( 3 vertical dots) >> tap on System apps
scroll to "google play services" and clear it's cache, reboot the phone and then check for the issue.
This worked for me.
Sent from the delta quadrant.
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I just tried this idea for my phone and I thought it worked, but unfortunately I was wrong. I wanted to double check to be certain because one of my work arounds to fix this issue was just rebooting the phone and making sure my location was working and then it would work. So of course since your idea involved rebooting I knew that would help my phone. I was just hoping the added step of clearing the cache would make it work permanently. Are both of your phones still working? I may just forget it and set it up for either the Google Home or mini as a trusted device because this is getting very frustrating. If you could think of anything else, please let me know. Thanks again.

I had the same problem at home and I narrowed down to the GPS not locking down properly in different areas of the house. Open Google Maps and you can see.
So, the next time it stops working, simply add the trusted zone of your area again even though the coordinates are the same.
I have the same coordinates registered 4 times in my device and haven't had an issue since.
It's a stupid solution but works.

i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.

sll1313 said:
Unfortunately, that’s not it. It’s been working flawlessly since I got the phone on release date. It’s just been recently, approximately 2 weeks, that it stopped working. Even then, I’ll get it to work for a dat and then it will stop again.
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I have the exact same problem! I'm not sure when it started happening, but it has annoyed me more and more over the last couple of weeks. I'll try to add my home again as a second input.
Note8 950F w/ Jan security update (nordic).
edit: it seems to work now when I've added my home two times.

I’ve actually tried all those ideas. I have a paragraph of locations including addresses as well as coordinates. I find that interesting that you mentioned about having four of the same coordinates because I noticed something quite interesting. Sometimes when they’re the same coordinates it will say it’s a duplicate and those I’ve dismissed. However, others that come up don’t come up with that message and I end up having multiple items with the same coordinates. Later on I erase them because I figure they’re just duplicates. I won’t going forward to see if that works. I’m assuming the ones the system catches as duplicates are the ones to not have included. I’m thinking about trying my home or one of my minis to use as a trusted device. I just really would like to get Trusted Places to work, but if not I think that’s the only other option since we can’t use a router as an option and I don’t have any of my Bluetooth speakers on all the time (I’m assuming those won’t work because of that). Please keep us informed in anyone cane up with any other ideas (as I’m sure you all will) and I will do the same.

LegendSmoker said:
i have an N950F running 8.0.0 and for me it stopped working on Nougat. After i clean istalled Oreo, smart lock worked for about 3 days. Now it doesn't again . I already cleaned cache of google play services and since then it works when it want's sometimes it workes sometimes not. is there no way to force it ? i mean once we have unlocked the device we can tap the lock on lockscreen to lock the device again . Is there nothing similar like this to unlock the device if the Automatad way isn't working propertly?
Adding more locations around my home area also didn't helped.
it is also very frustrating that we only can add bluetooth devices to trusted devices instead of i.E. my home router so it would know that i am at home not only through GPS location.
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I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.

sll1313 said:
I haven’t installed Oreo yet. I was waiting to hear what everyone thinks of it. How do you like it? That was one of my ideas that I was hoping would work. The only reason I haven’t installed Oreo besides waiting to hear what people thought. I want to make sure the Note 8 runs as well on it. I know in the past sometimes you upgrade and it makes the phone run worse. Also, I’ve got Nova Prime running , so it’s seems like I have most of the features that come with Oreo already on my phone. Honestly the last and most important reason I haven’t upgraded is the original S Note app. I had it running with Action Memo for quite sometime, but finally after awhile I managed to get it fully installed with Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, etc. It’s working in its full form. There’s one very minor thing that I never realized wasn’t around since the Note 4 (because I didn’t own the Note 5 since it didn’t have the SD slot). And that’s not being able to bring in a photo from your gallery to Photo Note. Other than that minor item, it works flawlessly. So I really don’t want to lose it. I know eventually I will take my chances, but I was really hoping someone else already updated their phone and it’s still working. By any chance, did you have it fully installed when you updated to Oreo? BTW, the only other option which I put in my other post which another person posted as well is to use the Google Home/mini/max as a trusted device as a workaround.
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Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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I have the same issue lately (maybe 2 weeks at most so mid-March) that I've noticed Smart Lock no longer working most of the time when I'm at home or any other "trusted places". Seriously annoying because as mentioned above (by LegendSmoker) that they should allow routers to be added as trusted devices then it would solve this issue. I'm using the Canadian Note 8 (N950W unlocked) and it was fine from launch up until 1-2 weeks ago roughly and now it prompts the pattern or biometrics most of the time when I am at home. Nothing has helped so far in resolving this so not sure what caused it but hopefully it will start working again soon.

This is very annoying. I've done factory reset but the problem comes back after a few hours of use.

I've discovered something interesting, mine usually works late at night, like after 10p, coincidentally right after my AOD turns off. I've tried manually turning off AOD but that doesn't seem to help. I just realized that I have the do not disturb coming on at 10p also but my wife does not so I don't think it's that. It seems really odd though, that it works late at night, every night.
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LegendSmoker said:
Ou i like Oreo. I did a clean install and can say that I have Better SOT( on nougat 4 h on oreo 5h ). Else is same as nougat for me... Some changes in Settings UI and some changes in ui here and there nothing interesting. I can't help you with Snote because I didn't use it in past with my older Note 3 or 4 or 5 but now I just learned to use Samsung notes because i am just writing some songtexts with it. I can understand also that users don't want to switch because snote had more features but they are making it harder and harder to get snote back with fully functionality so it is only matter of time until it is fully uncompatible. But I Can find it on play store so it probably still works. If you hold the s pen button and touch the screen with the pen twice you will get an action memo like note with Samsung notes but you probably know that and this is the only thing I need ^^ what do you mean with fully installed after updated to oreo? I did a factory reset before and after I flashed oreo with Odin. And then I restored all my files with smart switch from PC. If you want to keep your data you can wait for OTA update or try dirty flashing with Odin but if you get any fc's after you updated them you will still need to factory reset to get rid of these errors. Thanks for this suggestion but unfortunately I don't own any smart home or Google home devices except of chromecast and this is not enough ^^
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Thanks for the quick response. I will probably wait for the OTA for Oreo since I’ve waited this long and I’ve heard rumors it’s coming very soon. Yes, I am aware that you are able to open Samsung Notes the same way you were able to open Action Memo.
The S Note app that’s on the Play Store is not the original version and is missing numerous features. While there still a few features that are better than the Samsung Notes app, if that was my choice I would’ve probably followed your lead and stuck with Samsung Notes. Luckily, I was able to get the S Note app with Action Memo installed on my phone pretty quickly and eventually found a way to get the entire S Note app that besides having Action Memo, it also has Photo Note, Easy Chart, Idea Sketch, Scrapbook, and the rest. So that’s what I meant I took me some time to find a way to get the whole app side loaded and fully installed on my phone. I actually found the answer on this site. So I was trying to explain that I am somewhat worried that when I update to Oreo, it won’t work or I’ll have to do it all over again. I really hope not.
I also really hope that Samsung changes it’s mind with Samsung Notes in that either they improve the app with all, if not more, of the S Note features or just bring back S Notes. I didn’t use the S Pen really at all because I was really unaware of all its capabilities, including S Note until I upgrade from the Note 2 to the Note 3. I really think if they expanded the features of the app they would leave a lot of phones in the dust. There’s a member of XDA, tah480, who has some really great ideas on how the could really perfect S Note and make a phenomenal app. I already feel it’s probably the best app ever and with his ideas it would really be unreal.
I hope that it explains what I posted better. Also, while my phone isn’t perfect, I’m wondering if there is a weird delayed issue with location. I’ve added a lot of places in Trusted Places and will always add more every time it doesn’t let me in, but I’ll also open the Map app or ask Google where I am and then sure enough it works, but again only temporarily. It also seems to work temporarily after a reboot.
Oh and to the other post, I actually found the complete opposite about the AOD. I had mine going off at night and I changed it because I though it was having an effect on a clock/weather widget. Now it seem the Smart Lock is actually working better, still unfortunately not like it did. I’m just disappointed because I was really hoping then when I updated to Oreo I was hoping that would fix it, but it sounds like that’s not going to happen.
The only other thing that’s interesting is I notice I have a delayed issue with updating/installing apps on Google Play. They download and then they sit there and either eventually get installed or I have a workaround to get it to work. The only thing I could think about is I disabled the DT ignite (or whatever it was called before). It was my understanding that you should disable it. I’m wondering if I put it back, if these issues would start working again.

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Nougat 7.0 bugs - problems

I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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Mine had issues when I first upgraded to nougat with mirroring but it magically fixed itself lol
Only thing I've noticed is even with Auto rightness off the screen still dims itself ever so slightly when you leave a lighted area and go to a darker area, I'm assuming it's the blue light filter....Even though I have that option turned off.
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Only issue I've had is a daily "Android System has stopped" popup, but it's pretty uneventful. Nothing crashes, phone doesn't restart. Just hit "ok" and go about my business. I assume it's related to the disabled package list I've carried over from MM.
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I know most of us are happy with new Nougat firmware but i also see some people posting problems. To track this better i would like to all of us post here. This way some problems/bugs maybe look by more people and someone my have idea.
I got problem with Screen Mirroring. Whatever i do can't connect to my Samsung TV or Samsung Blue Ray player. I did restore software to PI2 and Screen mirroring worked fine. I did try on K1 and no problem buy soon as i update to BQA6 can't connect to any devices. Any help for this, anybody have problem like this? HELP. This is not like i use a lot but i make drives me crazy to point i may go to AT&T and warranty exchange my phone.
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Hi Norbarb,
Last weekend, I was on QA4 then I Odin'd back to APK1 and took the Official ATT OTA update to Nougat 7.0.
I just tested screen mirroring and it worked without any problems. Sorry, I don't have a Samsung BluRay to test.
Now the issue that I've been having is reboots. In the beginning, when I was first on N7.0 I had no problems whatsoever for a few days.
- On Feb. 20th, I kept getting a message that one of my apps unexpectedly closed. Now this app is old and wasn't even supported on MM (it's called Webcams widget) but it had worked flawlessly on MM and Nougat QA4.
- Then on Feb. 21st I had a couple of reboots happen, I went into a solid Bootloop that started in the afternoon and kept rebooting for around 10-15 times! It stopped long enough for me to actually Power Off my S7E down in the normal manner and I left it that way for around 5 minutes.
- I searched for solutions and finally ended up clearing the Cache Partition like this:
Wipe cache partition
Turn off the device.
Press and hold the Volume Up key, Home key, and Power key at the same time.
When the phone powers on, the Android System Recovery screen appears approx. 30 seconds later.
Release all of the keys.
Press the Volume down key to highlight "wipe cache partition."
Press the Power key to select.
Press the Volume down key to highlight “yes” and press thePower key to select.
When the wipe cache partition is complete, “Reboot system now” is highlighted.
Press the Power key to restart the device.
My phone went without a reboot for almost 2 days then yesterday afternoon I had one single reboot. My next test (if needed) will be to clear each app cache/data. Unless it gets really, really bad again, only then will I resort to a complete reset.
The only difference between using my phone on the official QA6 and the sideloaded QA4 is that I had turned off auto-updating for my Play Store apps when on QA4 (and earlier). I had a lot of updates occur when updating to QA6.
Doing more research today, I found an article talking about some common Nougat problems and possible fixes here.
antizombie said:
Only issue I've had is a daily "Android System has stopped" popup, but it's pretty uneventful. Nothing crashes, phone doesn't restart. Just hit "ok" and go about my business. I assume it's related to the disabled package list I've carried over from MM.
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Did you preform factory reset ?
It help me with lot of problems. Just make backup using Samsung Cloud and after factory reset using restore from Samsung cloud you will have 97% all of you settings and apps back. It is wort to do it.
Actually I just took a guess and re-enabled com.qualcomm.atfwd. I don't have a wifi display BUT I haven't gotten "Android System has stopped" since I turned it back on. This was never an issue on MM. If it happens again I'll try a few more packages related to Android System before a factory reset.
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Actually I just took a guess and re-enabled com.qualcomm.atfwd. I don't have a wifi display BUT I haven't gotten "Android System has stopped" since I turned it back on. This was never an issue on MM. If it happens again I'll try a few more packages related to Android System before a factory reset.
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What App did you use to disable it?
manny05 said:
What App did you use to disable it?
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Package Disabler Pro. It's the only one that currently works in Nougat as far as I know.
I switched to OnePlus 3T today, and here are few observations guys...
Compared to Nougat on S7E... different level of speed and responsiveness, way different.
I used CM and AOSP roms in the past, on different phones, I know they fast, but this... speed demon out of the box, with MM or Nougat.
Feel bad for leaving S7E forums, but believe me guys, it is a flagship killer indeed. Unbelievable.
I will go back to Sammy with S8 only if they will be able to keep up with this kind of speed, plain and simple.
I was hoping with every generation that Sammy will get rid of touchwiz lags... new phones and new chipsets were piling up, but it never changed, unfortunately.
Touch wiz nougat is a bloody mess next to 3T nougat...
Yes yes, I know. But I never used edge panels... or OOD that much.
Peace out guys!
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Just make backup using Samsung Cloud and after factory reset using restore from Samsung cloud you will have 97% all of you settings and apps back. It is wort to do it.
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Samsung Cloud? Can't find in app store.
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I'm guessing it's part of Nougat 7.0?
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-cloud/
It's not available in 6.0.1 I'm currently on.
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Samsung Cloud? Can't find in app store.
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I'm guessing it's part of Nougat 7.0?
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-cloud/
It's not available in 6.0.1 I'm currently on.
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Sorry. Samsung switch will work too.
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Package Disabler Pro. It's the only one that currently works in Nougat as far as I know.
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This... Just figured out ez disabler pro no longer works with Nougat
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Quickvic30 said:
Only thing I've noticed is even with Auto rightness off the screen still dims itself ever so slightly when you leave a lighted area and go to a darker area, I'm assuming it's the blue light filter....Even though I have that option turned off.
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I have this issue also, it keeps dimming constantly, and my blind self can't read it without manually turning up the brightness.
(Eye exam on Fri LOL)
Hello. My first post here. I have been lurking & reading for years.
I have a few of the minor issues that others have, like the colors will be washed out sometimes, pull down notifications are a bit harder to read. My main issue with this update is that my recently used apps will randomly close when the screen is locked & only keep 4 or 5 open. I want them to all stay open & I close the ones I no longer need. That is why I got this phone in the first place. Now apps that I need to go back to later & continue working are gone. Very annoying. I assumed it was a new performance setting activated without any explanation of how it will affect normal usage. I can't find where to change that particular setting, if it is changeable at all now.
Brine! said:
my recently used apps will randomly close when the screen is locked & only keep 4 or 5 open. I want them to all stay open & I close the ones I no longer need.
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settings->device maintenance->battery->battery usage->optimize battery usage
Gary02468 said:
settings->device maintenance->battery->battery usage->optimize battery usage
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Thanks for the tip. I tried that a few times. No change. Even added frequently used apps to be unmonitored. It is still closing all recently used apps, except the last 4 or 5. I just now turned off the app power monitor completely. It didn't change the estimated battery life hardly any. We'll see how that goes for a while.
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Brine! said:
Thanks for the tip. I tried that a few times. No change. Even added frequently used apps to be unmonitored. It is still closing all recently used apps, except the last 4 or 5. I just now turned off the app power monitor completely. It didn't change the estimated battery life hardly any. We'll see how that goes for a while.
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Just go to settings and search for battery. Then you will see what apps you can stop to have better battery live
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Battery life is terrible, and no volte, coming from MM 935U.
darthmalus said:
Battery life is terrible, and no volte, coming from MM 935U.
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Go back to U firmware. If you use Nougat less then week how can you say anything about battery. I got 20-22 hours of use and around 4 screen time. How much more do you need? Why people are so greedy? All i hear everywhere is i want more, i need more, give me more etc. When babble going to blow.
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norbarb said:
Go back to U firmware. If you use Nougat less then week how can you say anything about battery. I got 20-22 hours of use and around 4 screen time. How much more do you need? Why people are so greedy? All i hear everywhere is i want more, i need more, give me more etc. When babble going to blow.
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once samsung gives us 935U nougat maybe ill go back to it.

I can't believe how many issues I've encountered since Pie update

Hello all,
I have the 960U1 US Unlocked version of the Note 9 I've had since Day 1 release of last August. It's quite the powerhouse of a phone, and has everything of what you want in a smartphone. I was aggravated by how late the Pie update came, but I never expected how many issues came along with that changed the user experience since Oreo. After updating to Pie, I did a factory reset for a clean run but then I ran into these following issues:
Download, installing, and uninstalling apps from the Play store: I've tried to download apps, which get stuck at 99% or 100%, but then just hangs there to not install. Same thing with uninstalling. It'll say uninstall for an abnormally long time.
GPS issues: I travel frequently on weekends. Sometimes I would like to pull up my Google Maps timeline to review where I went and at what times. One weekend, I went out of town 3 hours away from home and yet my timeline showed me saying I stayed all day and night where my Home location is. Map guidance still worked, but it still showed me that my "current location" was still being at home.
Bluetooth Power indicator pop up: This is a recent issue I found that other Samsung users in other forums encountered as well. I have a Sony WI-1000x Bluetooth neckband that does extremely well for all the bells and whistles it does. I've noticed that after I factory reset again after experiencing the previous 2 issues to get them fixed, there is a pop up that keeps appearing every 10 or so seconds that tell me my headset is battery at 100%. I have found no way of disabling that, and I had to unpair/pair my headset as well as clear Bluetooth data in System App settings to try and get rid of it. Good thing it hasn't been doing that after several tries, but now there is another issue with BT.
Bluetooth notification sound output: I've noticed when my BT is connected, I don't hear notifications from my text messaging app, e-mail, Arlo, and social media apps. I've checked to see that my Sound settings are all up and running as it should be. Then I went to try and play a notification sound, and nothing came out of my phone speakers. It only played through the headset itself, and that's an annoyance as I don't wear them all the time in my ear unless I'm using it for phone calls or listening to media. It seems to be an Android Pie issue and I have yet to find a permanent solution as this wasn't an issue before on Oreo. The only workaround I've found is using the SmartThings Audio Output toolbar in the Notifications drop down and select to play Media from my device. The notification sounds work then, and I can still answer calls through my headset. But it's a dumb issue that I have to manually set this whenever I want to go back to listening media.
The Note 9 is a great phone despite the small shortcomings it had before the Pie update. Now it's after the Pie update, all these issues come up and I don't understand what happened in what Samsung did. I'm almost tempted in calling Samsung to ask if my phone just somehow became defective, but I don't want to have something done and they send me some refurbished model when I kept my phone in near mint condition. What are your guys' thoughts about the issues I've had and what solutions would you suggest?
GigaSPX said:
Hello all,
I have the 960U1 US Unlocked version of the Note 9 I've had since Day 1 release of last August. It's quite the powerhouse of a phone, and has everything of what you want in a smartphone. I was aggravated by how late the Pie update came, but I never expected how many issues came along with that changed the user experience since Oreo. After updating to Pie, I did a factory reset for a clean run but then I ran into these following issues:
Download, installing, and uninstalling apps from the Play store: I've tried to download apps, which get stuck at 99% or 100%, but then just hangs there to not install. Same thing with uninstalling. It'll say uninstall for an abnormally long time.
GPS issues: I travel frequently on weekends. Sometimes I would like to pull up my Google Maps timeline to review where I went and at what times. One weekend, I went out of town 3 hours away from home and yet my timeline showed me saying I stayed all day and night where my Home location is. Map guidance still worked, but it still showed me that my "current location" was still being at home.
Bluetooth Power indicator pop up: This is a recent issue I found that other Samsung users in other forums encountered as well. I have a Sony WI-1000x Bluetooth neckband that does extremely well for all the bells and whistles it does. I've noticed that after I factory reset again after experiencing the previous 2 issues to get them fixed, there is a pop up that keeps appearing every 10 or so seconds that tell me my headset is battery at 100%. I have found no way of disabling that, and I had to unpair/pair my headset as well as clear Bluetooth data in System App settings to try and get rid of it. Good thing it hasn't been doing that after several tries, but now there is another issue with BT.
Bluetooth notification sound output: I've noticed when my BT is connected, I don't hear notifications from my text messaging app, e-mail, Arlo, and social media apps. I've checked to see that my Sound settings are all up and running as it should be. Then I went to try and play a notification sound, and nothing came out of my phone speakers. It only played through the headset itself, and that's an annoyance as I don't wear them all the time in my ear unless I'm using it for phone calls or listening to media. It seems to be an Android Pie issue and I have yet to find a permanent solution as this wasn't an issue before on Oreo. The only workaround I've found is using the SmartThings Audio Output toolbar in the Notifications drop down and select to play Media from my device. The notification sounds work then, and I can still answer calls through my headset. But it's a dumb issue that I have to manually set this whenever I want to go back to listening media.
The Note 9 is a great phone despite the small shortcomings it had before the Pie update. Now it's after the Pie update, all these issues come up and I don't understand what happened in what Samsung did. I'm almost tempted in calling Samsung to ask if my phone just somehow became defective, but I don't want to have something done and they send me some refurbished model when I kept my phone in near mint condition. What are your guys' thoughts about the issues I've had and what solutions would you suggest?
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I had issues with android pie sprint model. Ended up flashing android oreo back and no more issues. Theirs guides out their all u need to do is download the correct files and flash file ,real easy process just follow instructions. Do your research and ull be good
GigaSPX said:
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I have the 960U1 US Unlocked version of the Note 9...
The Note 9 is a great phone despite the small shortcomings it had before the Pie update...
What are your guys' thoughts about the issues I've had and what solutions would you suggest?
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timex300 said:
I had issues with android pie sprint model. Ended up flashing android oreo back and no more issues. Theirs guides out their all u need to do is download the correct files and flash file ,real easy process just follow instructions. Do your research and ull be good
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Hey GigaSPX, noting you have a 960U1 US Unlocked, I've been working on this step-by-step for a 960U1:
Confirm These Steps to Downgrade US Unlocked SM-N960U1 from Pie to Oreo
If you decide to go this route, take a look and share your experience.
Thanks for the links and guide tips to downgrade to Oreo, but I enjoy One UI too much to give up on that user experience. I still have my Note 8 and I know it benefited significantly from the pie update to have it last all day unlike before on Oreo.
GigaSPX said:
Thanks for the links and guide tips to downgrade to Oreo, but I enjoy One UI too much to give up on that user experience. I still have my Note 8 and I know it benefited significantly from the pie update to have it last all day unlike before on Oreo.
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You're welcome.
Good to know about your Pie experience on your Note 8.

The most frustrating silly bugs, makes the Mi 9 a pain to own

This phone was meant to be the best mobile I've ever purchased, but silly things are putting me off. I am only 4 months into ownership, and now looking to part company with my Mi 9 as soon as possible.
1. The data just stops working when the phone loses and regains signal - as covered in a variety of other XDA threads and elsewhere. Makes the phone totally useless to someone like me who does a lot of travelling on underground trains and on motorways - I am missing alerts, messages, emails because of this.
2. The flashlight/torch keeps turning itself on randomly without any user intervention.
3. Since the last update, Google Photos has all the images showing with a crazy contrast level that makes them hard to look at. Again, covered in lots of threads elsewhere including temporary "fixes", but frustrating.
Anything I'm missing?
I'm not in a position to root etc to try other ROMs as I rely heavily on Google Pay which is broken on rooted/unlocked phones. Current ROM 10.2.28.0 (PFAEUXM). Reporting to Xiaomi I might as well just shout my grievances into a well... :crying:
Not judging just having question to
1. Does it not reconnect to the Internet after it lost signal? When I use the underground and loose signal but get out of it it works for me still. Or is your problem different?
2. Did you link the flashlight with the Assistant button?
3. I just checked Google photos but don't see any difference in picture view. How do I see the high contrast you have?
Sincerely a new Xiaomi user
Same version of miui, locked, unrooted.
1. Never had I experienced something like that
2. Never had I experienced something like that
3. Most likely a Google photos issue. After the latest Google app update (not Google photos app) it seems to be fixed.
bungalowbill said:
This phone was meant to be the best mobile I've ever purchased, but silly things are putting me off. I am only 4 months into ownership, and now looking to part company with my Mi 9 as soon as possible.
1. The data just stops working when the phone loses and regains signal - as covered in a variety of other XDA threads and elsewhere. Makes the phone totally useless to someone like me who does a lot of travelling on underground trains and on motorways - I am missing alerts, messages, emails because of this.
2. The flashlight/torch keeps turning itself on randomly without any user intervention.
3. Since the last update, Google Photos has all the images showing with a crazy contrast level that makes them hard to look at. Again, covered in lots of threads elsewhere including temporary "fixes", but frustrating.
Anything I'm missing?
I'm not in a position to root etc to try other ROMs as I rely heavily on Google Pay which is broken on rooted/unlocked phones. Current ROM 10.2.28.0 (PFAEUXM). Reporting to Xiaomi I might as well just shout my grievances into a well... :crying:
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I agree on 1 and 2
The 3rd bug I experienced also on havoc gsi so I don't really think it is miui specific.
I would add to the list weirdly working auto brightness, on other phones it works way better than on mi9
Also notifications icons limit on statusbar is set incorrectly, fix for that is in beta since month or maybe two but xiaomi prefers to change notch shape rather than fixing bugs in stable rom...
And the last one is more like a visual "glitch" than a bug. statusbar is a little taller than a notch
I don't have any of these bugs (running Revolution OS - modified MIUI stock rom).
Point 3. (as someone already said) disappeared after an update, although the official google support told me it has something to do with the vendor in particular (even though some OnePlus 7 pro devices are affected as well).
Never heard anything like point 1. tbh. I would recommend leaving stock rom behind and either go for xiaomi.eu/revolution OS or some other sort of Rom. Trust me there is way less bloatware and a much better overall experience compared to stock rom.
cihot said:
Not judging just having question to
1. Does it not reconnect to the Internet after it lost signal? When I use the underground and loose signal but get out of it it works for me still. Or is your problem different?
2. Did you link the flashlight with the Assistant button?
3. I just checked Google photos but don't see any difference in picture view. How do I see the high contrast you have?
Sincerely a new Xiaomi user
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1. That's correct - it shows full bars and the 4G symbol and you can make and receive calls and texts, but you cannot pass any data until you toggle data off/on or reboot. This is number one bug - what use a communication device that stops communication and you don't know about it. I am confused how it does not affect everyone on this ROM however there are more than enough people saying it is happening to them.
2. Yes, long press of assistant button to toggle flashlight. But it still turns on randomly even when the phone is just sat on the desk!
3. This is fixed apparently by disabling automatic contrast and then reinstalling Google photos - so maybe you won't see this? The symptoms are - open Google Photos, tap on any photo, after a second it changes the contrast of the image so you can barely see it.
1. Even worse: if my Mi 9 loses signal it will never reconnect unless I restart the phone. Happened on Global ROM and Xiaomi.EU ROM.
1. The data/Signal problems are 100% Provider/Region related. If not, everybody would have that same Problem.
2. If you blame the device / Stock Rom why do you come with those problems to xda? Nobody here is working for xiaomi, go to them.
3. If you like xda you should be able to use the search, all of your problems are solved a long time ago and solutions are all over xda. Just search for it.
The way you did it looks like a little child laying under the table crying and kicking around no matter who is around.
1. Can confirm mine definitely doesn't do that, would be horrible if it did, I wholeheartedly agree(miui 10.2.28 PFAEUXM). Then again I only had it for 2 weeks, wouldn't be surprised if something like this would start happening in the future, such is the life of "flagship killers", but I knew the risks when I jumped aboard even though I had the budget for an s10+ or 7 pro.
2.Never had it happen but that sounds like the kind of bug that would definitely be fixed with a minor software update. If the problem has been reoccurring after subsequent updates then a hard reset would be worth a try.
3. Not an app I use.
If you have a warranty then it should be applicable for that signal issue, it should also be easy to reproduce in a competent repair service.
Here is mine...
1. I also experience this sometimes, connection seems lost even though 4g signal is full bar, have to turn on airplane mode to refresh then it will have connection again.
2. Never happened to me..
3. This was fixed now, just update google app and gphotos. It was weird when it was like that, but now it is ok.
1. What's your preferred network type set for? I had all sorts of connection issues on AT&T USA until I switched to GSM/WCMA/LTE. I had it set for LTE Only for the longest time but on a road trip realized that wasn't always possible.
1. Never had that
2. Never had that
You might want to check with your ISP.
Yeah,there are some annoying bugs that im experiencing as well. That shouldnt happen in the flagship line. But on the other hand,there is no better phone i could buy for the money,so i will just wait and hope those bugs will be fixed soon. Otherwise its just great phone and i wouldnt give up this phone just for the camera itself.
Research dont complain
saturday_night said:
1. The data/Signal problems are 100% Provider/Region related. If not, everybody would have that same Problem.
2. If you blame the device / Stock Rom why do you come with those problems to xda? Nobody here is working for xiaomi, go to them.
3. If you like xda you should be able to use the search, all of your problems are solved a long time ago and solutions are all over xda. Just search for it.
The way you did it looks like a little child laying under the table crying and kicking around no matter who is around.
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I agree with your response totally bro !
saturday_night said:
1. The data/Signal problems are 100% Provider/Region related. If not, everybody would have that same Problem.
2. If you blame the device / Stock Rom why do you come with those problems to xda? Nobody here is working for xiaomi, go to them.
3. If you like xda you should be able to use the search, all of your problems are solved a long time ago and solutions are all over xda. Just search for it.
The way you did it looks like a little child laying under the table crying and kicking around no matter who is around.
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Wow, what a sense of community. What did your reply add to the conversation? Nothing. Disgusting behaviour.
bungalowbill said:
Wow, what a sense of community. What did your reply add to the conversation? Nothing. Disgusting behaviour.
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Well, you were the one that came here complaining. As he explained you, the signal problems are operator related, otherwise we all would have them, and I can tell you I used 3 different carriers in my country and they all work flawlessly.
Also, those problems you talk about have long been solved, I'd suggest you spend your time searching the forum instead complaining for no reasons.
omgomg said:
Well, you were the one that came here complaining. As he explained you, the signal problems are operator related, otherwise we all would have them, and I can tell you I used 3 different carriers in my country and they all work flawlessly.
Also, those problems you talk about have long been solved, I'd suggest you spend your time searching the forum instead complaining for no reasons.
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I agree
Best would be to close this thread
bungalowbill said:
Wow, what a sense of community. What did your reply add to the conversation? Nothing. Disgusting behaviour.
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Totally agree
Get used to this
Almost all xiaomi mi series communities are just horrible and often unacceptable
1. Never had that
2. Same
3. App specific issue - already fixed.
I do have other bugs that annoys me more, like:
1) screens turns on out of the blue, no notification is shown - but if I unlock the phone, I can see that there is a lower priority (not showed on lock screen) notification..
2) when alarm rings, opening the clock app (by clicking on the current time on the widget) does not show the alarm and a stop button, instead I need to pull in notifications and click on the stop action there.
3) android auto: different issues.. sometimes the call app does not appear on the notification area, so I had an issue where android auto disconnected, and I could not disconnect the call. Spotify also does not launch from the car dash, I have to manually open it on my phone. could be app specific, but knowing issues with android auto on other Xiaomi phones, I'm not sure.
omgomg said:
Well, you were the one that came here complaining. As he explained you, the signal problems are operator related, otherwise we all would have them, and I can tell you I used 3 different carriers in my country and they all work flawlessly.
Also, those problems you talk about have long been solved, I'd suggest you spend your time searching the forum instead complaining for no reasons.
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I can't find anyone explaining how to fix 1 and 2.
Also, 1 not carrier specific - happens to me on both EE and Vodafone in the UK and other people reporting other various networks Europe wide.
Frankly, I would say if you don't have anything to add, you leave the thread. Or carry on wasting your time replying to things you can't help with, your choice.

Home screen weather app disappearing?

For the past two days the temperature display on the stock home screen has disappeared. Additionally, I can't figured out how to access the Google Weather app at all. Restarting the phone brings back the temperature/app to the home screen for a few hours but then it disappears again.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
EvanVanVan said:
For the past two days the temperature display on the stock home screen has disappeared. Additionally, I can't figured out how to access the Google Weather app at all. Restarting the phone brings back the temperature/app to the home screen for a few hours but then it disappears again.
Any suggestions?
Thank you
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Go to the Google app and tap the weather in the upper left of the screen. Then the options ellipsis "add to homescreen" and you'll always have access. Mine disappears at least 2 or 3 times / day then all of a sudden it's back. But I don't sweat it now with the home screen weather option.
Thank you, not a bad workaround..it still sucks to not be able to see the temperature at a glance on the lock screen though.
After googling it a little further I seem to have found a fix, clearing the Google App storage. As soon as I did the temperature return to the home screen, hopefully permanently. And hopefully I don't regret clearing over a GB of data from the app lol. I'm not sure what it had saved.
EvanVanVan said:
After googling it a little further I seem to have found a fix, clearing the Google App storage. As soon as I did the temperature return to the home screen, hopefully permanently. And hopefully I don't regret clearing over a GB of data from the app lol. I'm not sure what it had saved.
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So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
bobby janow said:
So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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Lol it did disappear for a while yesterday afternoon but was back again this morning on it's own so...
Fortunately, I haven't noticed any other differences with the Google app. It did take a while to load and get back up to speed after I cleared the storage so I think most of the important stuff was restored automatically
Power management, destroyer of worlds.
Any power management apps are suspect, avoid using 3rd party ones.
Check to make sure this isn't what's picking it off.
No clue where or how many places it's found on this variant.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Individual app settings may also be misconfigured for battery savings and background data.
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Clear system cache.
EvanVanVan said:
Lol it did disappear for a while yesterday afternoon but was back again this morning on it's own so...
Fortunately, I haven't noticed any other differences with the Google app. It did take a while to load and get back up to speed after I cleared the storage so I think most of the important stuff was restored automatically
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Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
bobby janow said:
Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Hmm, yeah, for troubleshooting purposes I should also mention I use an always-on VPN too (wireguard to my home network where I have Pi-Hole setup). Initially, I thought that it could be Pi-Hole blocking related but after restarting my phone with it the VPN off a few days ago, like you said it still disappeared eventually.
lol fwiw, I sent a feedback message through the Google app describing the issue, maybe at some point they find the issue.
blackhawk said:
Power management, destroyer of worlds.
Any power management apps are suspect, avoid using 3rd party ones.
Check to make sure this isn't what's picking it off.
No clue where or how many places it's found on this variant.
Developer options>standby apps, all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is active.
Individual app settings may also be misconfigured for battery savings and background data.
&
Clear system cache.
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Thanks for the suggestion, Google App is listed as Active but some of others aren't...I'm trying to narrow it down more before I start messing with power management stuff. My phone is pretty much as stock as it can be
bobby janow said:
Yeah I was afraid of that. It has a mind of its own and does what it pleases. I've actually seen it disappear and reappear in the time it takes to get in and out of the shower. I also use a VPN but it doesn't matter, I've tried it both with it on and off. Same result.
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Try a network reset... and clear the system cache (this cures many strange glitches).
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
andybones said:
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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And just a little added info, my wife has the P5 also and doesn't know what a VPN is no less uses one. Same thing happens to her phone at different times than mine. Both of us 100% stock.
andybones said:
I just had to do a full Factory reset, and still this get removed randomly. Pretty annoying since Google wont let us remove it, and I don't know of any good solutions to remove it like we can the Google search bar, thanks to eg.
I really like the work-around outlined above.
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With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
blackhawk said:
With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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I have never had this problem, but I have wiped a couple of times now after updating to the next version of 12, and I've been on it since DP1.
Maybe a wipe couldn't hurt to try. Save any apps' .apks that you didn't get from the Play Store to G Drive or Dropbox or something like that. Force a backup for everything with adb shell to backup to G Drive (Google's backup system is surprisingly good now) and after restoring it, all you'll have to do is sign into apps again. Also, save anything you want to keep in /downloads.
Wiping is really only a minor inconvenience if you do preparation and/or prepare for the possibility of it being something you have to do beforehand.
That being said, I really miss the days of TWRP backups and an extSD
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I have never had this problem, but I have wiped a couple of times now after updating to the next version of 12, and I've been on it since DP1.
Maybe a wipe couldn't hurt to try. Save any apps' .apks to G Drive or something like that. Force a backup for everything with adb shell to backup to G Drive (Google's backup system is surprisingly good now), and after restoring it all you'll have to do is sign into apps again. Also, save anything you want to keep in /downloads.
Wiping is really only a minor inconvenience if you do preparation and/or prepare for the possibility of it being something you have to do beforehand.
That being said, I really miss the days of TWRP backups and an extSD
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I don't use any Google backup, except Gmail which stores it automatically, on my 10+, all critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card.
That in turn is redundantly backed up on a flashstick and hdds.
Texts, AT&T backup.
Google play Services runs only as needed. Google Backup Transport, Framework and Firebase never run... I killed Google as much as was practical.
So the no cloud apps running draining bandwidth and battery. I took some time, used trial/error and thought it through. I've had it with big sister Gookill Hard experience has taught me not to trust Google over the last 15+ years. Got tried of getting burned. Gmail was so much better 12 years ago, it's zenith... a prime example of the incompetence of Google. Or Picasso
I backup all my apps and updates with ApkExport so no Playstore is needed on a reload. Homescreen and themes are backup by Samsung StartSwitch. All critical apps like Poweramp, ColorNote, etc have their settings saved the the SD card, etc.
Basically I can do a full restore with no internet connection save text messages. Apps that don't permit saved backups may be lost but in the case of malware or an unknown issue that may be a good thing. After 2 back to back boot loops and factory resets over a year ago... I streamlined the time wasting reload process.
I expect to reload at 6 months or so when the OS started to show signs of age. Not so. All I do is minimum maintenance with SD Maid and the old Samsung Device Care cleaner. Of all my XP, XPx64, W7, Kitkat loads over the years this stock Pie load has proven to have aged exceptionally well. There were a couple times I had to do some serious witch hunting because of a rogue app or a hidden setting issue but was able to resolve it without damage to the OS.
So I just leave it be...
In my experience the Android Pie has proven to be robust and very versatile.
Because I'm running a stock AT&T 10+, TWRP backups are not possible
And just like that my weather is gone. Two beers at the local brewery and adios. I'll ask the Mrs. what the weather holds for tomorrow. Can I say, Ok Google you win, give me back my weather?
bobby janow said:
And just a little added info, my wife has the P5 also and doesn't know what a VPN is no less uses one. Same thing happens to her phone at different times than mine. Both of us 100% stock.
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This is my first Pixel, and I am loving it. Using a VPN for me just messes with the location, the bug is still random. Wish Google would fix this, or just let us remove the darn thing.
blackhawk said:
With a factory reset even if does work the issue is likely to reoccur. Best to find the root cause.
Factory resets are useful for viruses, rootkits, major firmware updates and boot loops.
The modern Android OS can be surprisingly secure, robust and long lived.
Those who update/upgrade will not see this longevity and will be forced to do factory resets for optimum functionality (assuming the upgrade doesn't ruin the user experience, frequently it does). Google can't help itself*... you can.
*constant change is the rule and frequently Google will maim and degrade their product usability even cancel it. It's their nature...
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Ok, I think some confusion by my post. I most certainly did NOT perform the factory reset in hopes to fix this Weather bug.. I was just stating that even on a fresh install this is still happening.. Google needs to address/fix it.
blackhawk said:
I don't use any Google backup, except Gmail which stores it automatically, on my 10+, all critical data goes on the data drive ie SD card.
That in turn is redundantly backed up on a flashstick and hdds.
Texts, AT&T backup.
Google play Services runs only as needed. Google Backup Transport, Framework and Firebase never run... I killed Google as much as was practical.
So the no cloud apps running draining bandwidth and battery. I took some time, used trial/error and thought it through. I've had it with big sister Gookill Hard experience has taught me not to trust Google over the last 15+ years. Got tried of getting burned. Gmail was so much better 12 years ago, it's zenith... a prime example of the incompetence of Google. Or Picasso
I backup all my apps and updates with ApkExport so no Playstore is needed on a reload. Homescreen and themes are backup by Samsung StartSwitch. All critical apps like Poweramp, ColorNote, etc have their settings saved the the SD card, etc.
Basically I can do a full restore with no internet connection save text messages. Apps that don't permit saved backups may be lost but in the case of malware or an unknown issue that may be a good thing. After 2 back to back boot loops and factory resets over a year ago... I streamlined the time wasting reload process.
I expect to reload at 6 months or so when the OS started to show signs of age. Not so. All I do is minimum maintenance with SD Maid and the old Samsung Device Care cleaner. Of all my XP, XPx64, W7, Kitkat loads over the years this stock Pie load has proven to have aged exceptionally well. There were a couple times I had to do some serious witch hunting because of a rogue app or a hidden setting issue but was able to resolve it without damage to the OS.
So I just leave it be...
In my experience the Android Pie has proven to be robust and very versatile.
Because I'm running a stock AT&T 10+, TWRP backups are not possible
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I'm very confused by your posts. They are completely OT.
Are you even using the Pixel 5.
Heck, are you even on Android 11?
Please start a new thread, or find one that suits what you'd like to speak about, as this isn't the place to talk about de-Googleing, as much as I agree with it.
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This is my first Pixel, and I am loving it. Using a VPN for me just messes with the location, the bug is still random. Wish Google would fix this, or just let us remove the darn thing.
Ok, I think some confusion by my post. I most certainly did NOT perform the factory reset in hopes to fix this Weather bug.. I was just stating that even on a fresh install this is still happening.. Google needs to address/fix it.
I'm very confused by your posts. They are completely OT.
Are you even using the Pixel 5.
Heck, are you even on Android 11?
Please start a new thread, or find one that suits what you'd like to speak about, as this isn't the place to talk about de-Googleing, as much as I agree with it.
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All Androids share common problems and solutions. I cross platform searches between manufacturers/devices/Android versions frequently to find solutions... otherwise my 10+/Pie still be a mess!
If the issue still remains after a factory reset it just proves the original settings may be misconfigured from the get go. Putting it in Safe mode would have been enough.
You need to play with it and start looking hard.
Cross platform as I described when doing Google searches and use multiple search engines.
You don't see me posting threads about issues I have until they're fixed. I try to post solutions only. Occasionally I acknowledge a known issue as glitches are common... as are work arounds.
As for Android 11, you have my sympathy. A lot of 3rd party diagnostic tools were lost starting with Q making your task harder.
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So what's the verdict? Did it remain or disappear again?
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Just found this solution:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/n6vxp4
That works for now The other tip I saw was rather than removing the new widget like in the video, keep it on another screen. For now I removed it but if it disappears again (which it probably will), I'm going to try that.
EvanVanVan said:
Just found this solution:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pixel_phones/comments/n6vxp4
That works for now The other tip I saw was rather than removing the new widget like in the video, keep it on another screen. For now I removed it but if it disappears again (which it probably will), I'm going to try that.
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I wonder if this will even be a thing when Android 12 comes out. As of beta 5 there is no weather on the lockscreen but it's not certain it will stay that way for release.

Question OnePlus Nord CE 5G has received OxygenOS 12 based on Android 12, has anyone installed it? Is it worth the upgrade?

The last update had some issue and the device got into bootloop during restart. Hope this update does not have such issue. I had to check it manually yesterday.
akabhishek881 said:
The last update had some issue and the device got into bootloop during restart. Hope this update does not have such issue. I had to check it manually yesterday.
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I didn't had any issue with any of the previous updates (btw what update caused bootloop on your device? any problems with update could be caused by installed apps). Anyway, OOS12 has some quirks here and there but nothing serious. It's quite stable and suitable for daily usage.
I have installed it yesterday (version EB2103_11.C.05). After testing I can confirm that it is working very well, including 5G network. Also wifi networking is working without any problems.
Any help with a bootloop after updating this update?
Jaymzx said:
Any help with a bootloop after updating this update?
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[OPNORDCE][OOS EB13BA/DA] Unbrick tool to restore your device to OxygenOS
Disclaimer: By attempting any of the processes listed in this thread you accept full responsibility for your actions. I will not be held responsible if your device stops working, catches fire, or turns into a hipster and claims to have been...
forum.xda-developers.com
this way you can recover to OOS 11.0.9.9
do not update from 11.0.18.18 but from 11.0.17.17 via local update
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[OPNORDCE][OOS EB13BA/DA] Unbrick tool to restore your device to OxygenOS
Disclaimer: By attempting any of the processes listed in this thread you accept full responsibility for your actions. I will not be held responsible if your device stops working, catches fire, or turns into a hipster and claims to have been...
forum.xda-developers.com
this way you can recover to OOS 11.0.9.9
do not update from 11.0.18.18 but from 11.0.17.17 via local update
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Thanks.
It magically went back to the previous version after 3 reboots and several bootloops. No idea how it happened but it seems to be all fine.
Jaymzx said:
Thanks.
It magically went back to the previous version after 3 reboots and several bootloops. No idea how it happened but it seems to be all fine.
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It's because there are two slots A and B for this kind of thing, your actual OS boots from slot A, you download update & install it on slot B and if something goes wrong, device returns to boot from slot A.
What a wonderfull time to be alive
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It's because there are two slots A and B for this kind of thing, your actual OS boots from slot A, you download update & install it on slot B and if something goes wrong, device returns to boot from slot A.
What a wonderfull time to be alive
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I didn't know that, that's awesome!
Thanks!
Hi, I have a model EB2103, and I want to know if this update is also for this model, if so, where can I download it?
I have the EB2103 version here and upgraded to Oos12. I deeply regret to have done it. The system is slow, ugly, and keeps resetting from nowhere. The fingerprint lock just fails much more and I miss a lot of features. The one a miss most is the hidden apps that I could easily access from apps, by swiping to right. This is gone and now I need to open the telephone app and type a PIN to see a little window will the hidden apps. Looking for a downgrade of my phone right now.
As I wrote here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/need-help-updating-my-oneplus-nord-ce-5g.4495611/
everything is fine with me, the system is running as like a Swiss watch.
Kazid said:
I have the EB2103 version here and upgraded to Oos12. I deeply regret to have done it. The system is slow, ugly, and keeps resetting from nowhere. The fingerprint lock just fails much more and I miss a lot of features. The one a miss most is the hidden apps that I could easily access from apps, by swiping to right. This is gone and now I need to open the telephone app and type a PIN to see a little window will the hidden apps. Looking for a downgrade of my phone right now.
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I can definitely confirm that the update broke a lot of settings. For me it reset the battery and notification settings for several apps, for example AccuBattery. The apps notification icon does not show up in the top anymore and I think this is the case for every non-system app right now. I am using Nova Launcher and had to do quite a rework of my theming. Colors of the clock widget changed to a cyan, which looked awefull and the google calendar app widget went pale. I also had to remove apps that I previously deactivated.
All in all a horrible update that destroyed my theming and installed a bunch of stuff I did not ask for.
Looking forward to the end of warranty next year to root and remove the OS for something cleaner. Guess this will be the only OnePlus in my posession.
EDIT: I figured out why in my case the notification icons disappeared. I've set "don't disturb" and all the notification icons disappeared, as is with the notification icon of AccuBattery, which is a silent notification. So not only does the system not display a notification in silent mode (which is ok) it also disables the icon in the top banner for some reason. Does anybody know how to disable that behaviour and have it like before, where notifications are silent, but their icons appear in the top banner?
EDIT2: Got the AccuBattery icon working by holding the finger onto the silent notification in the pull-down and then set the notification to "important".
How to downgrade to previous version???? the updates really sucks..it now looks like ****!!!
Arvind1808 said:
How to downgrade to previous version???? the updates really sucks..it now looks like ****!!!
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I didn't find out the best way to do it. It looks like MSM Download Tool is the way, but my drivers are still not working as should recognize the phone... I almost bricked the phone 'cause I started flashing it and the phone just reset in the middle of the process.
After a few days, I also noticed that the fingerprint sensor reacts really slow.
Today I printed a document and the print job just crashed after successfully sending the document to the printer.
To top it off, my Moto 360 3rd Gen battery life went from 1.5 days to just under 6 hours.
thecodingowl said:
After a few days, I also noticed that the fingerprint sensor reacts really slow.
Today I printed a document and the print job just crashed after successfully sending the document to the printer.
To top it off, my Moto 360 3rd Gen battery life went from 1.5 days to just under 6 hours.
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Try to re-register your fingerprints, this should work.
Did you try to print another document to reproduce the error?
To avoid battery problems on your smartwatch, you could try to allow only apps sending notification, that you need (i.e. Whatsapp, Instagram, Telegram etc.). I assume, that every app send notifications to your smartwatch atm
Sony make.believe said:
Try to re-register your fingerprints, this should work.
Did you try to print another document to reproduce the error?
To avoid battery problems on your smartwatch, you could try to allow only apps sending notification, that you need (i.e. Whatsapp, Instagram, Telegram etc.). I assume, that every app send notifications to your smartwatch atm
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will try to look at the app rights management again, but I already restricted a lot of stuff and the point is, that before the update, everything just worked a lot better. It is a disappointing update overall that causes a lot of unnecessary problems.
I could not get root to work after the update since the TWRP image was not bootable anymore (flashing it caused the phone only to boot to fastboot). I got the phone working again by factory reset. If anyone knows a solution it would be highly appreciated.
By far the best update to Android on this phone. 11 was just abysmal compared to this.
It runs extremely smooth with no stutters. Everything opens up very quickly etc.
The battery time is, at the same time, clearly better.
It looks much cleaner.
And the functionality is mostly for the better too!
It's been a long time since I have been this positivley surprised by an android update!
No problems when updating, everything worked and missed nothing important after the update.
It's a 100% worth it!
Installed recently and breaks termux with phantom process 32. If you use termux and any of its plugins, this will certainly break it.

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