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Are all ROMS less than perfect by nature?

First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)

This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.

_MetalHead_ said:
This is why I'm done with custom ROMs. I get all I need from stock KK + Xposed. Haven't flashed a ROM (as a daily driver) in almost 2 years.
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Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.

It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK

wolfen69 said:
First off, let me preface this by saying that I appreciate all of the hard work and time by the devs/volunteers here, and they give us some pretty cool things.
It just seems that no matter what rom I try, it has a bug or 2 that may not keep me from enjoying my phone, but it keeps creeping. Even the so-called stable KK still has growing pains. Is it possible for a rom to be completely stable? (aka, at least as stable as stock) Or is the nature of roms always going to be a bit behind from a standpoint of stability?
I have yet to try a rom (been doing this for 3 yrs) that has been 100% (stock) stable. I can use most roms just fine though, and again, this is not a slight on the devs and those who work hard. But let's be honest, an already flawed Lollipop must be a pain to get make a custom rom from. Am I alone? Btw, I'm back on stock for now, as it works fine. But will be waiting patiently for the awesome devs to figure it out. (and yes, I realize there must be testing for things to get better)
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imo yeah. tis why I went back to stock 4.4.4 and GravityBox. No issues since then. None. Zero. Roms not worth fiddling with IMO. too many bugs trying to figure out if it's the app, the kernel, the ROM...I will do custom kernels but...no more than that.

Ben36 said:
It's not soo much the roms. Stock lollipop is bugged from Google as it's relatively new so hasn't had everything ironed out yet like the older KK
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Good point.

I think its all in what type of bugs you get. I've seen bugs even on stock roms, custom roms give you those options where stock falls short. I do however think Xposed is a good way to possibly fix some of those issues
Sent from my Nexus 5

4 stock updates from Google within 3-4 months (and we still expect bugs...). How could we have 100% stable custom roms?
Anyways custom roms are stable enough to enjoy my phone and it's way better than stock

wolfen69 said:
Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm not bitter about it lol, just got tired of flashing new ROMs all the time. It's nothing against the devs, they do some really great work, I just now prefer the dependability of stock. It was the original Moto X that changed my habits.

It's software, by definition it will have bugs.
The question is whether or not you can live with a particular ROM's set of unique bugs.
I've been running an old (Oct. 2014) CM11 nightly because it mostly gives me what I want without undue grief (weird reboots, battery drain, etc).
It's far from perfect, it won't play nice 100% with my car head end just to list one thing (BT bug, seems to be fixed in CM12).
I play around with other ROMs using MultiROM, but always come back to the old CM11.
I'm quite happy there is such an assortment to try, imagine how unhappy you would be if there was only one and it had a major (in your opinion) bug.

I don't think it's possible to get rid of all bugs ever. Its an os that is working with constantly changing apps and devices. But, I use cataclysm as my dd with elementalx and I don't notice any bugs. Im sure they are there, they just don't affect me with my particular usage.

wolfen69 said:
Ahhh, Metalhead. I like the name, as it's my mantra for the last 40 yrs. Anyway, you seem bitter about it, as other things.
I'm just trying to get some real feedback about how people feel. Thanks Metal, noted.
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I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You are aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.

zagorteney said:
I'm totally agree with @_MetalHead_. I've came to Nexus, because I was tired to flash my Xperias with custom ROMs an CMs., thought I still think that Sonys hardware is supperior than the LG and Acer one.
Sure that all of custom ROMs have bug or two. But that is because Google have all bunch off developers that are fully employed to make stock android. You should be aware, that custom ROMs here are made by individuals or small group enthusiasts. And that is. As man grows, he more and more prefer bitter chocolate than the sweet one. Sweet one is for children. And offcourse, we both enjoy.
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That's funny, I used to hate dark chocolate as a kid and now I prefer it.

They all have bugs. Every ROM I've used stock or custom has had bugs. Though staying stock or staying with the stable builds by the big name teams yielded the most stable experience for me. If someone flashes weeklies/nightlies and does not expect a bug or two they're doing it wrong. Main thing is finding something you as a user can live with.

It's funny that I just opened XDA 5 minutes ago to search for people's opinions about completely stable custom roms and I immediately came across this thread. I guess I will keep my phone stock and try Xposed for the first time when it's available.
I was done with flashing and experimenting with my Galaxy S2 a while ago after I realized there wasn't a perfect rom. But it's tempting though now I have a Nexus phone..
Send from the Matrix

I wondered about this, reading about what devs have deal with what googles supplies over time.
I tried Cataclysm lollipop and that's really close to being a solid rom but the bugs from google really make it frustrating to use as a daily rom, poor ram management and lockups, the inabilty to multi task without redrawing.
from a consumers point of view you expect lollipop to be an improvement over kitkat,
Switched back to kitkat and didn't realised how good and battery friendly It is.
This is why I stayed with nexus,the closet thing to a stable phone, will wait for 5.1 before I update.

Yes they are. In the lollipop updates on unofficial cm roms I'm still getting camera bug and the voip bug where I can't be heard on a headset. They appear after a few hours to weeks. Happend on a nighty today so Sent logcat in. Lollipop shouldn't have been released in the mess it's in. It's laughable that a couple of pple cherry picking from roms will do anything other than incorporate the bugs. There is a Golden rule here # devs can do no wrong and you can't put them down# cherry pickers are not developing anything imo. They merge others work, sometimes producing a better rom than the original, granted, but fixing problems. They have no idea 90%of the time. 10%are more skilled. But if google with hundreds of coders can't get it right what chance have independent roms? Look at the official lollipop CM. Still on nightlys and will be when 5.1 comes.
I run roms until a bug crops in and won't go which breaks something I need. Them on to the next. Bigsys?? K K roms were the closest to perfection. Fast and fluid.
Kernels is another thing, for another day..

While they may be less than perfect, from what I've been reading the Nexus 5 may be skipping 5.1 and going directly to 5.2
Sent from my Nexus 5

People are less than perfect by nature so that being said ,art imitates life as.
well as android 5.0 and above

From my point of view, even the stock ROM has its own flaws and sometimes it gets resolved a few revisions/versions later. On a custom ROM, it tends to be resolved pretty quickly provided the developer is actively monitoring user feedback and supporting it.
I'll usually only look for custom ROMs which focuses on staying as stock as possible while improving its speed and stability, I'll try to stay away from ROMs that offers a lot of other additional features which may or may not break another thing or two.

Why the KK baseband for LP ROMs?

I'm not sure if it's just a D415/410/405 thing or if it's a KitKat to Lollipop thing. I'm not new to rooting, flashing, and customizing, but I'm in no way a dev either, so I was wondering why so many ROMs for our phone need a KK baseband? Alternatively, if I'm already on a debloated but otherwise stock LP ROM do I need to downgrade to the KK baseband first or can I flash over?
Note: the last time I was playing around with flashing ROMs was on a Galaxy Exhibit II 4G and I bumped it up from 2.3.6 to 4.4.2 without having to play with basebands. This is why the confusion.
Thanks in advance for any advice and answers.

I guess because no one really is maintaining LG L90 device sources.
For a log time there was Quarx but his device got broken so he's not really developing it anymore. He's only compiling CM12.1 from sources but I'm pretty sure it's all done by computer, fully automatically. After Quarx there was BigMajster who if I'm not wrong was the first one to introduced L90 owners to Lollipop. He was a great bug-hunter and he published a lot of great fixes for different L90 variants. If I'm not mistaken he was the one who fixed Double-tap-to-wake feature and storage 190MB bug for D415. He was a great developer until he disappeared somewhere in January I think. One day he was gone without saying anything. For some time I thought that something happened to him but after a little research I found out his real name and that he's pretty much alive and well. I didn't contact him though. I thought that if he left the way he did there was no point.
Other developers (I will not mention any names) are no really maintaining device sources. Most of them are just busy with their ROMs they are developing. The same bugs are present in all customROMs and no one is working to fix them. After months there is still no stable kernel for custom Lollipop, even though almost all of the current developing projects are based on Lollipop. Getting developers to work together, also didn't worked out. I probably forgot about some others important developers that are not with us anymore so sorry if I skipped anyone.
To be exactly clear. I don't make any accusations nor complaining. I just share my opinion with you, saying how I see things around here. I tried to state only facts, without my personal opinions but you should consider this whole statement as one.

A well thought out and thorough answer. Thank you for that. Any input on if I can flash from a stock LP base band or would I have to downgrade? That's about the only thing that makes me nervous and preventing me from trying 5.1.1 despite the random FCs

If you're on stock Lollipop and want to try CustomROM. Then you will have to downgrade to KitKat using KDZ or install bootstack.
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@Xemidra
Keep in mind that NOONE of you pays us. You have no idea what we're doing on the source.
Quarx started with the device tree, kernel and vendor, so we don't know all what he did and how he did. We are working all or going to school(?), so we don't have so much time to rebase everything.
Also porting a Lollipop kernel from LGE source needs plenty much time.
In addition there is no "General source" to work on and maintain. All in all it's pretty cheeky to say something like we're doing nothing.

GrinningFerret said:
@Xemidra
Keep in mind that NOONE of you pays us. You have no idea what we're doing on the source.
Quarx started with the device tree, kernel and vendor, so we don't know all what he did and how he did. We are working all or going to school(?), so we don't have so much time to rebase everything.
Also porting a Lollipop kernel from LGE source needs plenty much time.
In addition there is no "General source" to work on and maintain. All in all it's pretty cheeky to say something like we're doing nothing.
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Well, like I said it's was my opinion. That's how I see things around here.
I didn't mean any disrespect. I know that you don't get paid for your work so I don't have any right demanding anything from you and I don't but you also can't say that the current situation is a result of devs not getting paid.
I also put some work time into L90. I did made available all KDZ for Lollipop and some for KitKat. I made different versions of BOOTSTACKs and I made FlashableSTOCK. All that take a lot of my time, energy and also my internet connection, power supply etc. No one paid me for it. I basically paid for it from my own pocket. I'm not complaining. It's just how it is.
You can't get mad because someone did something not the way you wanted him to do while he did it for free.
At the same time you can't be mad at the current situation and say it's because someone didn't pay you to make it better.
That's my opinion.

@Xemidra
The problem isn't that we don't get paid for it - its' our hobby. But the point is that you're telling around that we do nothing on the device source, which is just wrong.

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@Xemidra
The problem isn't that we don't get paid for it - its' our hobby. But the point is that you're telling around that we do nothing on the device source, which is just wrong.
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I might have been wrong about the input in device sources.
Good you've stepped up and corrected me.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.

@Xemidra
Nevermind.

Sorry if this ruffled any feathers, guys. This was meant more to be an end user wanting to understand the dev and background process to be able to contribute and help more than a spirited discussion about who does what.
In any case, I thank you both for the information and the input. In the end I do understand a bit more.

Blisspop/CM Rom now in Beta

Head over to the main G4 development page if you are interested in this for the H811/H815.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development/h811-h815-blisspop-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3185593

There's still a long way to go. Most things are still broken and new builds will generally break things on a regular basis. Just be aware before heading over. The post doesn't need more Posts saying goodbye this/that isn't working, it's still very much a WIP.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
There's still a long way to go. Most things are still broken and new builds will generally break things on a regular basis. Just be aware before heading over. The post doesn't need more Posts saying goodbye this/that isn't working, it's still very much a WIP.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk
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True, and the OP doesn't have the most recent build where most stuff is actually working. I'm running the 10/15 build (page 76-78...somewhere in there, posted by codeworkx) and most of my audio is working. Haven't tried bluetooth, but I rarely use it, apparently voice calls have an echo, but I never call anyone, either. The only thing I really use that has an issue is the camera that delays on opening, but I'm sure that'll be worked out shortly. As soon as codeworkx got to work on it, it's honestly been pretty stable for a WIP, but I think I have a higher tolerance for broken builds and features, having been a crackflasher for 7 years now. I'm just happy to be back on AOSP/CM at this point with this phone.

schreckles said:
True, and the OP doesn't have the most recent build where most stuff is actually working. I'm running the 10/15 build (page 76-78...somewhere in there, posted by codeworkx) and most of my audio is working. Haven't tried bluetooth, but I rarely use it, apparently voice calls have an echo, but I never call anyone, either. The only thing I really use that has an issue is the camera that delays on opening, but I'm sure that'll be worked out shortly. As soon as codeworkx got to work on it, it's honestly been pretty stable for a WIP, but I think I have a higher tolerance for broken builds and features, having been a crackflasher for 7 years now. I'm just happy to be back on AOSP/CM at this point with this phone.
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I hope nobody thought I was saying it is ready for prime time! Just a heads up. I have not installed it yet as I will wait for a more highly functioning build, but I also know there is a thirst for development here, so I wanted to share the good news!!

Honestly, if you were to try the 10/15 build, you'd be surprised at how "ready from prime time" it actually is. I've been using it as my DD for the last 2 days and it's actually been pretty nice. Couple small things here and there, but the only thing that's affected me at all so far was the camera delay. Now that there's at least a dev or two that seems like they know what they're doing, I'm hoping development for AOSP/CM stuff starts picking up. The little time that codeworkx has put in so far has been looking extremely promising. (Not to take away from the OP on that, but code made it so that I can actually use it as a DD with sound.)

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Honestly, if you were to try the 10/15 build, you'd be surprised at how "ready from prime time" it actually is. I've been using it as my DD for the last 2 days and it's actually been pretty nice. Couple small things here and there, but the only thing that's affected me at all so far was the camera delay. Now that there's at least a dev or two that seems like they know what they're doing, I'm hoping development for AOSP/CM stuff starts picking up. The little time that codeworkx has put in so far has been looking extremely promising. (Not to take away from the OP on that, but code made it so that I can actually use it as a DD with sound.)
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Hmmm, I didn't realize it was that far along. Between the 815 talk there, it has become tough to follow. I may give it a go. I assumed you did a complete wipe before installing? Thanks, @schreckles
EDIT: You don't use bluetooth I see, and I do quite a bit. From what I understand, that doesn't work, so that's a non-starter for me. Guess I'll wait.

ShermCraig said:
Hmmm, I didn't realize it was that far along. Between the 815 talk there, it has become tough to follow. I may give it a go. I assumed you did a complete wipe before installing? Thanks, @schreckles
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Yup, sure did. Full wipe (especially when switching back and forth between CM/AOSP and stock roms) and then flashed the 10/15 H811 build that codeworkx posted the other day, along with the nano gapps he'd suggested.
Small issues: Your LED will stay lit up blue until you plug the phone in and unplug again. No biggie. No "OK Google" or anything that requires the phone mic for me thus far (ie Google Sound Search.) Camera takes approximately 4 years to open, but it does open, and the shots it produces aren't bad. They aren't as good as stock, but that's typically been the trade-off even since back in my OG Droid days when going from stock to non-stock base. Call audio, bluetooth, and NFC apparently have some issues still, but I rarely use any of those, so meh. Oh, and I get a popup stating "Settings has closed" every so often, but it doesn't affect anything. I'm sure I could find the cause if I was motivated, but I'm sure it'll get worked out soon enough.
...Mostly just stuff I can live without for now that's broken. I've even been using Xposed and some of my favorite modules without any ill effects.

So is it more or less a theme now or what? I know what CM is, but as far as functionality, is it quite a bit faster than stock or what?
Thanks!

I am assuming that this is the only public aosp build for the G4?

maximus20895 said:
So is it more or less a theme now or what? I know what CM is, but as far as functionality, is it quite a bit faster than stock or what?
Thanks!
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It's a completely different build of Android using different frameworks and whatnot. It's built upon AOSP and tweaked framework to make it CyanogenMod. I'm not sure if the one I am using currently is the one in this thread but so far it's been pretty smooth. There are definitely some issues but it's a lot further along than I though it would be. Kudos to those guys!
EDIT: That is the same build I am using (in case anyone is wondering).

Is anyone fed up of the 3T

Hear me out. I think the phone is amazing. The software is crap, now the 5 is out the updates have already slowed. Not to mention OOS is always behind on security.
Now custom roms. I appreciate highly the work so many devs have been doing especially sultan, lineage and paranoid. But theres always something thats a bit off, camera especially, lag etc. Always end up going back to OOS then get bored again, try roms again.
Is there anyone else like me who has had enough of being a crack flasher or gets bored easily and has just had enough of trying to find perfection from a oneplus phone ?

What do you want to hear? Need a confirmation for yourself to get another phone to make the step a bit easier?
Yes, I hate the manner of OnePlus to not even fix a single thing, like the implementation of the Camera2 API. Sure, they lied to us more often than we want. But what company does the job better?
If you want to get a new phone: Fine. I'm also looking for a replacement. But I'm looking for phones for weeks or months, so I'm sure, the phone is good enough and beloved by devs. For me, no OP-device anymore. But really fed up? No.

MickyFoley said:
What do you want to hear? Need a confirmation for yourself to get another phone to make the step a bit easier?
Yes, I hate the manner of OnePlus to not even fix a single thing, like the implementation of the Camera2 API. Sure, they lied to us more often than we want. But what company does the job better?
If you want to get a new phone: Fine. I'm also looking for a replacement. But I'm looking for phones for weeks or months, so I'm sure, the phone is good enough and beloved by devs. For me, no OP-device anymore. But really fed up? No.
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I dont meed a confirmation from anyone. Ive made a topic for discussion. For instance i have a oneplus one as well ae my back up. There is more stable nougat roms on that, a 3 year old phone than there is on the newer higher spec 3t. Phones are getting ridiculous. What the hell is with these curved screens now so no tempered glass fits properly.
The next phone i get needs to be something that will have good support. Preferably from a company who releases camera sources

LAG on OP3T? wtf :0
I agree with you, I dont like OOS but i love custom roms and PA is perfect, its so smooth and optimized and their camera software is on par with OOS cam

Isus <3 said:
LAG on OP3T? wtf :0
I agree with you, I dont like OOS but i love custom roms and PA is perfect, its so smooth and optimized and their camera software is on par with OOS cam
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Ive seen lag on pa rom when opening messages and settings and a few other things. It was minor but it bugged me a lot. The camera i didnt think was on par although its better than most roms. I didnt find the camera snappy enough either

Honestly stock is the best for this phone by far. Set it up right and its the fastest phone out there. Are you talking about screen lag or application lag?

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Honestly stock is the best for this phone by far. Set it up right and its the fastest phone out there. Are you talking about screen lag or application lag?
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Ah! I am defeateddddd! Pa had application lag. For instance it opens but messages would appear after lag and same with settings. Stock is better but i hate the delay in updates that dont fix basic bugs or update security.

My 2 cents; OOS continues to be good enough I don't even bother to unlock anymore. I was a Nexus fan for sure, but the 6P was my end of the line (yeah yeah, end of the line anyway). I had numerous issues and it finally got the bootloop problem that was plaguing many users. I got a used replacement, sold it and never looked back from the 3T. I tried most roms for the Nexus lines and while many were excellent, it was always something. When I got the 3T I decided to just leave it stock for a week and have not looked back. I get at least 2 days from it, it charges insanely fast, have had no lag/reboots/lockups, nothing. I would say I'm a fairly normal user except no social media really, privacy and all.
I keep a tab on what's new and as of today, nothing at all has tweaked my interest. Samsung/Motorola/HTC = never, too bloated. Pixel = too expensive.
I do feel the security updates are a bit slow and some additional OOS goodies would be nice, but for the price, for me it's hands down still the best phone.

Stock is the best rom, ftw

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My 2 cents; OOS continues to be good enough I don't even bother to unlock anymore. I was a Nexus fan for sure, but the 6P was my end of the line (yeah yeah, end of the line anyway). I had numerous issues and it finally got the bootloop problem that was plaguing many users. I got a used replacement, sold it and never looked back from the 3T. I tried most roms for the Nexus lines and while many were excellent, it was always something. When I got the 3T I decided to just leave it stock for a week and have not looked back. I get at least 2 days from it, it charges insanely fast, have had no lag/reboots/lockups, nothing. I would say I'm a fairly normal user except no social media really, privacy and all.
I keep a tab on what's new and as of today, nothing at all has tweaked my interest. Samsung/Motorola/HTC = never, too bloated. Pixel = too expensive.
I do feel the security updates are a bit slow and some additional OOS goodies would be nice, but for the price, for me it's hands down still the best phone.
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I hear you and agree with all of it. Problem with oneplus now is couple more years it will be on par with samsung pricewise. Then what? The bloated huawei honor line.
Sultans and PA are the best custom roms but they are not without their bugs.

TbagBaggins said:
Hear me out. I think the phone is amazing. The software is crap, now the 5 is out the updates have already slowed. Not to mention OOS is always behind on security.
Now custom roms. I appreciate highly the work so many devs have been doing especially sultan, lineage and paranoid. But theres always something thats a bit off, camera especially, lag etc. Always end up going back to OOS then get bored again, try roms again.
Is there anyone else like me who has had enough of being a crack flasher or gets bored easily and has just had enough of trying to find perfection from a oneplus phone ?
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Didn't we get like 2 betas already since the 5 is out? Also, custom roms have issues on EVERY phone. You won't find a phone where a custom rom works 100%.

-Ric- said:
Didn't we get like 2 betas already since the 5 is out? Also, custom roms have issues on EVERY phone. You won't find a phone where a custom rom works 100%.
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3 betas since our last update. Because we are still testing for the 5. Tell me what beta features have come to stable?

TbagBaggins said:
3 betas since our last update. Because we are still testing for the 5. Tell me what beta features have come to stable?
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I don't know and I don't care to be honest. The stable version of OOS is an inferior version of the beta at this point. The beta is 100% stable in my experience and offers more features than the stable one as you've said.

-Ric- said:
I don't know and I don't care to be honest. The stable version of OOS is an inferior version of the beta at this point. The beta is 100% stable in my experience and offers more features than the stable one as you've said.
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Beta is being moved to the op5 in a couple of months..

Moderator can close this thread.

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Or you could have just let it fade into obscurity instead of bumping it, since nobody posted to it for 8 months.

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Or you could have just let it fade into obscurity instead of bumping it, since nobody posted to it for 8 months.
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Then why did you comment? ??*

I got my OnePlus 3T for 15k INR (230USD) 3 days ago, Flashed Omni ROM 8.1. 20180311 build;
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/oneplus-3--3t-cross-device-development/8-x-omni-oneplus-3t-t3695992
Installed Magisk v16.0 https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Installed AINUR AUDIO - SAURON MK II.II : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516
Installed SKULSHADY's Google Camera 5.1.018 Mod v3 https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75693033&postcount=415
Installed YouTube Vanced https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/magisk-iytbp-youtube-vanced-t3712097
Installed Substratum and the Swift Black Theme https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brit.swiftblack.layers&hl=en
...and a bunch of other stuff, the ROM is stable for Oreo 8.1, and with the help of other mods, and for someone coming from OnePlus X the phone feels great.

Wlan signal quality is very bad with mine.
Noticeable in many games, when it is endlessly stucked until the it the signal gets through again.
With 4G there is 0 problems, it's only this weak Wlan module, it's getting on my nerve.

EAPOCS said:
Wlan signal quality is very bad with mine.
Noticeable in many games, when it is endlessly stucked until the it the signal gets through again.
With 4G there is 0 problems, it's only this weak Wlan module, it's getting on my nerve.
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Oxygen os lies about signal strength.

Willing to pitch in $10 for any developer(s) that can bring Pixel Experience ROM!!!

Who is with me? I am committing to donating as long as the ROM is a proper port/build and is stable and reliable enough to be a daily driver.
Let's see who else can commit to donate!
Can't stand MIUI!!!!

tdot.loco said:
Who is with me? I am committing to donating as long as the ROM is a proper port/build and is stable and reliable enough to be a daily driver.
Let's see who else can commit to donate!
Can't stand MIUI!!!!
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this is not how it works... devs on xda are no professionnals, they build roms on their spare time, after school or work hours.
The main problem is not to build any rom, but is to make sure it is usable and stable.
Patience is a vertue

Forgive me, but I don't understand why people are waiting for custom ROMs to show up when a GSI is working perfectly fine (in a better state than the current build of LOS)
OP, what is stopping you from using a GSI. You can continue to use the vendor image from your stock MIUI build while swapping out top-level GSIs

hmm for me i cannot use GSI roms. it says 'wrong pin' whenever i set pin/pattern.

tdot.loco said:
Who is with me? I am committing to donating as long as the ROM is a proper port/build and is stable and reliable enough to be a daily driver.
Let's see who else can commit to donate!
Can't stand MIUI!!!!
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xD i wont take 10$ but i can build PE

letsmakecakes said:
xD i wont take 10$ but i can build PE
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$10 is actually nothing in comparison to the hard work that is required to build any ROM whatsoever, and that's why we must be grateful to have you building lOS for us for FREE!

i will pay $100

Guys I have tremendous respect for all devs, of any device. I've owned myself from LG G2, G3, G4, Samsung S2, HTC M7 all the way to Samsung Note 8. I appreciate it all the hard work they put in. The reason why I took the initiative to incentive the very few ones that are following/owning our devices right now is because of that very same reason, there is little attention to this device.
I know most of them do this because it's a hobby or a side thing or to get some exposure/experience, but I know money is not the greatest motivator to them at all.

satadi said:
Forgive me, but I don't understand why people are waiting for custom ROMs to show up when a GSI is working perfectly fine (in a better state than the current build of LOS)
OP, what is stopping you from using a GSI. You can continue to use the vendor image from your stock MIUI build while swapping out top-level GSIs
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I heard someone say there is still lots of bugs with LOS GSI on our device.
Can you confirm it is bug free on RN7 China version?

Still waiting for this

Pixie dust is out for treble.
Load it that way.
Edit:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...evice-development/9-0-pixel-dust-pie-t3862484
Lots of other GSI images as well!
I am waiting three hundred hours to unlock bootloader, or I would give you more specific instructions.
Basically flash GSI image to your system partition, threads will include more information .

Hi OP, no offense, but offering $10 for personal rom request like this really cheapen out the dev's work. Porting a custom ROM isn't an easy work, and offering them this small amount of money is offensive.
Either wait until someone ported PE then donate to the dev, or join some lavender development group on telegram and throw some hundred bucks until someone's agreed to built you a rom.

why don't you want to use the pe already built for our device? this rom has been around for months yet you lot all appear to have never seen the thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3930709
official status means absolutely *nothing*. if it works, it works. official status doesn't automagically make it 100% stable either.

NightRaven49 said:
why don't you want to use the pe already built for our device?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7/development/rom-pixel-experience-t3930709
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Was about to make the same observation, I have just installed this Rom on my note 7 and seems to be bug free so far and even with small differences works just as well as the excellent Pixel expierence by jhenrique09 on my note 5. Give it a go!!

eh my bad, just realised this thread was started a couple of weeks before the initial pe rom thread was started. doesn't really seem to get much updates though.