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Hey guys, I suppose some of you have had a xiaomi in the past and I have two questions for you and maybe someone that has some knowledge about xiaomi.
1) Currently how's Xiomi dealing with privacy? I remember 1 or 2 years ago Xiaomi has hit with strong reports of leaking information to their government (chinese) and everything we did on the phone would be seeded to their servers, even SMS's and other stuff..
2) How's the ROM support usually for Xiaomi? Do they usually get a stock based ROM, which has no bloatware and some nice tweaks?
Thanks everyone!
Afaik, being a mi3 user, they had a "data sharing" option on by default in miui which is now changed to be off. Personally i never considered it much as there were already devs who had made custom rom for the device, i think over the last two years i might only have used miui for about 4 to 8 months.
No bloatware, but if u r not a previous user, u might find some apps useless (it has its own clean master replacement app). So yeah, there are a lot of options for tweaks n stuff by default too. Hopefully this answers your questions. (and add a question mark to the title, it looks like u r going to rant about Xiaomi by reading the title, lol)
arnabbiswasalsodeep said:
Afaik, being a mi3 user, they had a "data sharing" option on by default in miui which is now changed to be off. Personally i never considered it much as there were already devs who had made custom rom for the device, i think over the last two years i might only have used miui for about 4 to 8 months.
No bloatware, but if u r not a previous user, u might find some apps useless (it has its own clean master replacement app). So yeah, there are a lot of options for tweaks n stuff by default too. Hopefully this answers your questions. (and add a question mark to the title, it looks like u r going to rant about Xiaomi by reading the title, lol)
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Do you think there will be much custom rom/kernel support for the Mi 5 (or does this depend on Xiaomi allowing for an unlocked bootloader together with release of kernel sources) ?
SlyUK said:
Do you think there will be much custom rom/kernel support for the Mi 5 (or does this depend on Xiaomi allowing for an unlocked bootloader together with release of kernel sources) ?
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There will sure be support for custom roms even when the kernel source isn't there, my device had custom roms even before kernel source was released, although there were a bit bugs due to it and only a few (like 5 to 10) custom roms were there, bit with the release of sources, it jumped to 50+. And my device had the bootloader unlocked by default, which even i didn't knew until i rebooted to it. Although the fastboot wasn't able to get the info about the bootloader (like version, etc). IDK if any new devices require to unlock it but i don't think it should be hard as they support it, so that won't be a barrier for development.
TL;DR- less n buggy roms w/o kernel source, floods of roms and custom kernels after source, nothing to concern about bootloader.
There maybe some rom development from a few people that get the device and maybe from cm. But that's about it. Non of the big name team roms will have official versions, just maybe ports.
As for the security and privacy. That is up in the air as it seems even on custom roms they some how have managed to still keep track of the devices. One person on the MI note found that even while not on miui for months that they still had a current backup of all his apps and info.
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There maybe some rom development from a few people that get the device and maybe from cm. But that's about it. Non of the big name team roms will have official versions, just maybe ports.
As for the security and privacy. That is up in the air as it seems even on custom roms they some how have managed to still keep track of the devices. One person on the MI note found that even while not on miui for months that they still had a current backup of all his apps and info.
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With regards to porting an official rom, I suppose these would be regarded as Unofficial versions. If that is the case is there any real disadvantage in having the "Port" as opposed to have the "Official" version ?
Ports normally will have some bugs as this happens due to not having some things for device built into the code.
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Yes I also heard that even with a custom ROM on the device they still found a way to make the device connected and synching information with their servers, which I don't find that funny..
I wanted to know if this data leak is still present in the previous flagship, anyone tested it recently?
It's good to know that it has nearly no bloatware from what you are saying me, but if it has something I don't find useful I may just freeze the app.
Also does anyone know if Xiaomi usually takes long times to update the software of their devices (I heard that they were an exception in relation to other Chinese manufacturers) and release the kernel sources for the ROM developing community or are they pretty good on this area?
Thanks!
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No they are terrible about it. Normally when they post the kernel source it is incomplete and broken.
As for updating. Until very recently they based their os on 4.4 and when asked why they said they didn't care about official android versions.
As for bloat that depends on how you look at it. Miui is about as bloated as TW or HTC Sense.
@zelendel In terms of big name team roms having official versions, would kindly give a few examples ?
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@zelendel In terms of big name team roms having official versions, would kindly give a few examples ?
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The biggest are the one or two devices (cant remember their names off the top of my head) that were able to get/fix the kernel source and device trees which CM picked up. So some of the teams that use CM source as a base like AICP also picked up Official versions for the devices.
Then you have the Roms that are based on AOSP instead of CM. As they dont use CM as a base ( Maybe some parts) These roms like Slim or Dirty Unicorns seldom see official versions of the rom. Normally you might get a port here and there. It all depends on if the one of the devs gets the device as most teams don't offer official support for devices they do not own.
Hello everyone,
I have been seduced by the Mi5 and got one. Even I work in IT, I have never flashed a phone and actually didn't plan to do it when I bought the Mi5. I read that the original Chinese ROM had English in it.
So I was happy to just use this ROM in English and that's it (I'm not picky in term of UI).
But I had several bad surprised when I received it:
- many things are still in Chinese
- several applications, even if they are in English, present/search Chinese results (actually I should have thought about it earlier)
- I installed Google Play but some services keep on failing and several apps won't install or update
As a result, I'm finding myself having to flash the phone with a custom ROM in order to get something correct.
As explained in the title I would like to have some advises on which ROMs would be the easiest and most stable to have? I'm not looking the for most fancy or classy ROM. I just want something that would be stable, run smoothly GApps and popular apps (Facebook, WhatsApp, etc...) and works with the most vital/used features of the phone (Wifi, Bluetooth, finger-print, camera, etc...). I have seen threads about several ROMs (Cyanogen, Xiaomi.eu, Resurrection Remix, Official Global Multi, etc...) but don't know which one would suit me best.
Finally, I have done my homework before posting this message, and read how to flash a ROM (especially on the xda-university). Here are the general required steps I have noted:
Enter in USB debug mode
Install a custom recovery app? (I've seen you can flash them too?)
Download you customer ROM into the SDcard
Use the custom recovery to backup your phone (I actually don't need to backup since my phone is empty)
Install the rom by selecting the zip in the root of the SDcard
That said I have seen several other methods and terms on various threads talking about specific stages or the process.
People are "rooting" the phone. Is that necessary for what I want to do? I guess so.
People are are using "flashboot". I read it's another way to flash? What is best for the Mi5?
Please don't hesitate to redirect me to some guides/tutorials if there some fundamentals I have missed.
Thanks! :good:
U also need to look into unlocking the bootloader.
U need to to google ur ****
flyturbo said:
U need to to google ur ****
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Prob uncalled for. He's just looking for info
Hi,
I would recommend xiaomi.eu's rom : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-6-30.32496/
It's fully translated, stable, includes the Google apps. I've tested a lot of roms, first on a Mi4c then on my Mi5.
If you're going for a MIUI rom (and not a CyanogenMod based one), this is the best in my opinion.
The roms comes in 2 versions : the stable (no root and updated every month or so) and the weekly one (with root and updated every week).
Installation is super easy, you just need to unlock the bootloader of your Mi5 first : http://en.miui.com/unlock/
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Hi,
I would recommend xiaomi.eu's rom : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-6-30.32496/
It's fully translated, stable, includes the Google apps. I've tested a lot of roms, first on a Mi4c then on my Mi5.
If you're going for a MIUI rom (and not a CyanogenMod based one), this is the best in my opinion.
The roms comes in 2 versions : the stable (no root and updated every month or so) and the weekly one (with root and updated every week).
Installation is super easy, you just need to unlock the bootloader of your Mi5 first : http://en.miui.com/unlock/
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Thanks for these helpful comments!
So would you say that Xiaomi.eu ROM is more stable than the CyanogenMod ROM? And it's more stable than the official MIUI Global ROM?
In terms of things not working at all, have Xiaomi.eu and CyanogenMod ROMs everything supported/working? That's what I worried about. I would be happy to flash a custom ROM but I would like to make sure it has most of the phone features working correctly (finger-print, bluetooth, wifi, GPS, camera, etc...).
Foobrother said:
Thanks for these helpful comments!
So would you say that Xiaomi.eu ROM is more stable than the CyanogenMod ROM? And it's more stable than the official MIUI Global ROM?
In terms of things not working at all, have Xiaomi.eu and CyanogenMod ROMs everything supported/working? That's what I worried about. I would be happy to flash a custom ROM but I would like to make sure it has most of the phone features working correctly (finger-print, bluetooth, wifi, GPS, camera, etc...).
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CynaogenMod is, indeed, a bit less stable because it's a port and the kernel sources haven't been published yet by xiaomi so no optimisation on this side.
But CM is the way to go if you prefer android stock over MIUI's implementation.
Xiaomi.eu's rom are as stable as official ones but richer in features and optimized (see the list on the rom download page) and with much less bloatware. They remove a lot of Chinese specific apps from and make their rom Google apps compatible out of the box.
And yes, everything works correctly, especially if you install the stable version (the weekly is more prone to bugs because it's updated all the time).
At the end of the day, I would say it's the EU/US version of MIUI. If tomorrow Xiaomi want to sell their products in the western part of the world, this is probably the kind of rom they will put on their devices.
be0ne said:
CynaogenMod is, indeed, a bit less stable because it's a port and the kernel sources haven't been published yet by xiaomi so no optimisation on this side.
But CM is the way to go if you prefer android stock over MIUI's implementation.
Xiaomi.eu's rom are as stable as official ones but richer in features and optimized (see the list on the rom download page) and with much less bloatware. They remove a lot of Chinese specific apps from and make their rom Google apps compatible out of the box.
And yes, everything works correctly, especially if you install the stable version (the weekly is more prone to bugs because it's updated all the time).
At the end of the day, I would say it's the EU/US version of MIUI. If tomorrow Xiaomi want to sell their products in the western part of the world, this is probably the kind of rom they will put on their devices.
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Thanks a lot for these advises. It sounds like Xiaomi.eu is what I'm looking for!
I'm glad if I could help. Let us know if this rom fits you
I too would recommend the xiaomi eu Rom. The cm one works well but if you want to use android pay it has to be the xiaomi one.
Foobrother said:
Hello everyone,
I have been seduced by the Mi5 and got one. Even I work in IT, I have never flashed a phone and actually didn't plan to do it when I bought the Mi5. I read that the original Chinese ROM had English in it.
So I was happy to just use this ROM in English and that's it (I'm not picky in term of UI).
But I had several bad surprised when I received it:
- many things are still in Chinese
- several applications, even if they are in English, present/search Chinese results (actually I should have thought about it earlier)
- I installed Google Play but some services keep on failing and several apps won't install or update
As a result, I'm finding myself having to flash the phone with a custom ROM in order to get something correct.
As explained in the title I would like to have some advises on which ROMs would be the easiest and most stable to have? I'm not looking the for most fancy or classy ROM. I just want something that would be stable, run smoothly GApps and popular apps (Facebook, WhatsApp, etc...) and works with the most vital/used features of the phone (Wifi, Bluetooth, finger-print, camera, etc...). I have seen threads about several ROMs (Cyanogen, Xiaomi.eu, Resurrection Remix, Official Global Multi, etc...) but don't know which one would suit me best.
Finally, I have done my homework before posting this message, and read how to flash a ROM (especially on the xda-university). Here are the general required steps I have noted:
Enter in USB debug mode
Install a custom recovery app? (I've seen you can flash them too?)
Download you customer ROM into the SDcard
Use the custom recovery to backup your phone (I actually don't need to backup since my phone is empty)
Install the rom by selecting the zip in the root of the SDcard
That said I have seen several other methods and terms on various threads talking about specific stages or the process.
People are "rooting" the phone. Is that necessary for what I want to do? I guess so.
People are are using "flashboot". I read it's another way to flash? What is best for the Mi5?
Please don't hesitate to redirect me to some guides/tutorials if there some fundamentals I have missed.
Thanks! :good:
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fracman said:
Prob uncalled for. He's just looking for info
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Excellent info you posted !!!! :highfive:
be0ne said:
Hi,
I would recommend xiaomi.eu's rom : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-6-30.32496/
It's fully translated, stable, includes the Google apps. I've tested a lot of roms, first on a Mi4c then on my Mi5.
If you're going for a MIUI rom (and not a CyanogenMod based one), this is the best in my opinion.
The roms comes in 2 versions : the stable (no root and updated every month or so) and the weekly one (with root and updated every week).
Installation is super easy, you just need to unlock the bootloader of your Mi5 first : http://en.miui.com/unlock/
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Thanks for this info - i have only tried the global roms and to be honest - they bug me !
CM - as awesome as it is...still has its little bugs and annoyances.
Hopefully this is the way forward !
Hi everyone,
I've jusdt purchased a Xiaomi MI5 for my girlfriend and have been trying to build my knowledge of how to install TWRP, root it, and add Cyanogenmod. I think I've managed to get all of the information that I need, but I would just like to check it with your good selves before I go ahead.
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
Much obliged for all the help that I have received in the past from the good folk on XDA. If I've been able to perceive the correct course of action, it's only because I've stood on the shoulders of you giants.
Best regards,
p.s. Believe it or not, I'm still using an antiquated Samsung Galaxy Media Player 5.0, and having had a quick play with the MI5, it feels like adanced alien technology in comparison. Very snappy indeed and I'm feeling quite jealous of the Missus.
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
At fist , you must be using MIflash tool to get bootloader unlock.Next to install TWRP.
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If you are on stable rom you can't flash developer rom via Updater app. You can do it only via fastboot using MiFlash tool. About what development rom you should use, Global or China, China version is the best shot. At the of the day makes no difference. You still need to download any of them and anyway China version have english language. So using it for a while until you manage to unlock your bootloader shouldn't be an issue.
On another matter now... In your first post you was talking about installing CM. My advice from my own experience is to stay on MIUI for now. CM 14.1 is still on early stages of development. As of today MIUI 8.1 is way more stable than CM. There's absolutely no comparison between camera quality. Battery last longer and performance wise, on my usage (Facebook, Messenger, Whatsapp, lots of browsing, lots of hours of playing Need for Speed No Limits and Vainglory) there's no difference between MIUI and CM14.1. So far photos quality is way lower on CM, video recording buggy (i don't know if it's fixed in last build), some people are complaining about Bluetooth issues... Anyway...is your girlfriend willing to flash nightly CM builds on a daily basis? Mine for sure would throw the phone through the window lol.
Yes I know that "legend" is saying that CM roms are snapier and more customisable than stock roms. Not the case for CM14.1, at least not yet... Customisation wise what you can do on CM14.1 you can do on MIUI 8. And theme engine is not ready for CM14.1 yet...so much about customisation. On MIUI8 the theme engine works just fine and the themes collection is quite large.
If you chose to stay on MIUI i assume you'll want a debloated rom. My advice is to go for xiaomi.eu roms. Xiaomi.eu roms are based on China versions (China versions gets updates more often than global version) without bloatware.
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Thank you Vladimir for your considered and thoughtful reply.
I had thought about using miflash, but the instructions here:
http://en.miui.com/a-234.html
state, "Click here to download MiFlash. If your device is locked. please click here to unlock it first. "
Since I want to flash a dev rom in order to unlock, the instructions to unlock and then flash made no sense to me. It is okay to go from Global stable (8.0.2.0 MAAMIDG, in my case) to China Dev 6.12.15 via MiFlash and I can do this with a regular USB-c cable and not a deepflash cable, is this correct?
I think you make a good point about CM 14.1 not being ready for prime time. I think my girlfriend would prefer the graphical touches of MIUI 8 in any event. Can you confirm that I can use xiaomi.eu rom with root, twrp and x-posed network if needed. That should do for now.
Thanks again, my friend. I anticipate your reply.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
vladimir_carlan said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
If you chose method 1 (fastboot) you'll end with TWRP installed aswell. From there just flash SuperSu and done. After that you can update via updater app to last version. My advice is to stay away from Nougat for now. Is still under development and all additions are just under the hood. No new features. If you have any issues with unlocking the bootloader you can literally ask in any thread...the community is more active there. And unlike XDA you won't get an "wrong thread stupid!" or an "use the search button damn it!".
Xposed works just fine but you need this version http://en.miui.com/thread-273424-1-1.html
About CM14.1 don't get me wrong...things are moving fast. And the progress made in just 2-3 weeks its amazing. I just don't think it is what it should be on a gifted phone.
-Hey babe! Merry Xmas! This is your Xmas present: a brand new Xiaomi MI5!.
-Awww...thanks hun! Anything i should know about this phone babe?
-Ummmm...yes...
-What?
-The selfies you are going to take...
-What about my selfies?
-Not really Facebook/Instagram ready...and you know? Sometimes if you switch off WiFi data connection won't work... But it's all good...you just need to turn on and off airplane mode
-Ummmm...ok. I assume I'm happy with your Xmas gift
Time is passing...few days later, New Year Day...your girlfriend wants to take a look at the videos she recorded at New Years Eve party....suddenly...
-Baaaaaaaaaabe!
-What!?
- I can't find my videos from last night
- Ummm...i forgot to tell you something
- What????
- Video recording is broken...
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Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
imgettingold said:
One step at the time then fellas. To get bootloader unlock I must be on a dev rom. Can I flash straight to Global Dev using the "Updater" app? thanks
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imgettingold said:
Thanks again for your reply, Vladimir. The nice thing about the MI5 is that MIUI has had time to have some of the bugs ironed out so I agree that it would be foolish to jump straight into CM 14.1 without giving it time to mature. My girlfriend cares not one bit for technical things and, you're right, would not understand why things don't work properly and would think that I had bought her a lemon of a phone.
Can I ask you one more thing, my friend? The more I read (and with your help) the more I learn, but I am always coming across contradictions. For example, I thought with a locked bootloader one had to use a deepflash cable to overwrite the bootloader via MiFlash and fastboot. Here are the instructions I found which clearly delineate between unlocked bootloader and normal usb cable, and locked bootloader with deepflash engineering cable.
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-flash-miui-global-stable-rom-on-mi-5-running-china-stable-rom/
Is this the only way to go to China Dev rom i.e. do I need to order a deepflash cable? I am confused.
Thanks again for all your help, I can assure you it is very much appreciated especially the part about flashing the EU rom with TWRP. That sounds just what I need.
Cheers,
p.s. thanks for pointing me to the right xposed module too!
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My bad. You need MI PC Suite. Here is a guide:
http://xiaomitips.com/guide/how-to-fix-bricked-mi-5-with-locked-bootloader-and-update-to-global-rom/
Don't pay attention to the "bricked device" in the title. The procedure is the same. This is what I used to go from the fake rom to chinese dev one. Keep in mind that you need to download RECOVERY roms and in MI PC Suite you need to chose RECOVERY FLASH (R.Flash).
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
imgettingold said:
Ahh, now it makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Apologies for the slight delay in getting back to you Vladimir. I've typed up two verbose replies and lost them because XDA logged me out whilst writing them so I'll keep this one brief.
You emphasized using the recovery ROM, but do you have a link perchance for the china dev recovery as I've only been able to find a link for the global stable rom in flashboot and recovery flavours. The only link I have for china dev is this one
http://en.miui.com/download-299.html#435
and that does not specify recovery, so flashboot should be assumed?
Thanks again, friend, and wishing you (and your girlfriend) a Merry Christmas whilst I have your ear.
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If I remember correctly, when you do R.Flash in MI PC Suite you can chose the MIUI Version (Stable or Dev) and the download will be made automatically.
imgettingold said:
The phone currently has the global stable rom installed, and I understand that I need to flash over that before I can get the bootloader unlocked, and I can do so by using the built in "updater" app to flash the rom that will allow the BL unlock.
QUESTION: What is the best Rom to use? Can I unlock bootloader with a Global Dev Rom, or does it need to be a China Variant?
Once I have flashed a rom that will allow the bootloader to be unlocked, I need to follow the unlocking procedure, wait for it to be authorised by Xiaomi, then use the Mi Unlock tool.
From there, I can flash TWRP via fastboot, and once that is done, flash CM, and finally SuperSU.
Have I got all of that right, my friends, or would anyone else do anything differently?
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Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
Anyway unlocking bootloader works on China Stable too. Not only on Dev version. But you still need to install the China Stable. You called your girlfriend "missus" therefore I assume you are in UK and you bought your phone from an online reseller. MI5 sold by resellers are coming with a "fake" ROM.
elot01 said:
Hello,
I have to disagree with Vladimir.
Your description of actions is spot-on.
I have done exactly that and i am very happy with CM13 (not CM14.1 i agree on that one )
If you do flash CM, DO NOT flash SuperSU.
Root is build in CM, just activate the Developer Options and in there is the option to activate root.
But i have been using MIUI8 for about 2 weeks. 1 week waiting for unlock (problems with getting the permissions to my account) and later again 1 week to try the latest version.
Both times i had much trouble with apps being killed in the background, because MIUI is much more aggressive in killing background tasks and that is not changeable as far as i could find. That is why the battery seems to last longer. But i have in CM the same battery settings active and CM lasts just as long as the MIUI versions i had.
Also there were a lot of bugs in both versions of MIUI, that made it almost impossible for me to use it for my work.
So i would suggest, follow you own steps and first try the MIUI that you installed and if you have some problems, flash CM13 and try that for a week.
Then make a choice of what you want to use in the future.
About the MIUI flash version: if you have Global now, just upgrade via the app to the developer version. Since you already know that version, just use that one.
Chinese version is only in Chinese and English.
Global has some more languages.
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Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
What theme is that? it looks awesome
PetritH said:
What theme is that? it looks awesome
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Nightshade! Link: http://zhuti.xiaomi.com/detail/378b1e4d-156e-4c98-b483-8f857b3fea09
vladimir_carlan said:
Memory management it is changeable in MIUI. There's an option for that in Developer Settings. By default it's set on on "middle" and indeed it is quite aggressive. But if you set it on "low" or "off" (my personal choice" and at the same time you turn off battery saving mode which is set on by default your apps won't be killed in the background. When I wake up in the morning (waken by alaram which never been killed by the way) my Need for Speed No limits is always where I left it in the evening.
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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Hmmm, strange.
I have only seen the option to set the background apps to a max of 5, no Off option.
But whatever the options, i still suggest to everybody to try the MIUI first for a week or so and later try the CM13 or CM14.1 version and make your own choice after that.
If MIUI works for someone, stay on it, else use CMxx
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On a normal situation i would suggest the same. Or even not to make any suggestion at all. In this case I did it because OP mentioned that the phone is going to be a gift for his girlfriend. If I'd gift a phone I'd gift a reliable phone. And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
About Memory optimisation is a different option in Developer options. Is not part of Background processes limit.
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And as of today even the official CM maintainer don't think CM is reliable. If he'd consider that CM is reliable will have at least one snapshot/milestone and not only nightlies.
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The CM13 version is reliable and also has normal releases, not only Nightly's.
I have been using it since a few months now on my Mi5 (before that alsmost 2 years on the Mi 4i)
I agree on Cm14.1, not stable enough for me, but CM13 is absolutely stable.
I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
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I have unknown device error while unlocking bootloader. Anyone with similar issue bypassed it and unlocked BL? Pls help me.
Thanks in advance
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Hi again, I just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who posted in this thread (particularly Vladimir and elot101). I've had to sort a couple of things out on the car which have prevented me from having a play on the phone, and with Christmas so close I decided discretion was the better part of valour, and giving the phone as is to my girlfriend to ensure that my Christmas present to her is not a brick, then prying it off her a few days later and flashing Dev, and pestering Xiaomi for an unlock because an Android phone without root, firewall, X-posed privacy module and titanium back-up may as well be an Apple product as far as I'm concerned.
I give you my word that I will bump this thread and let you know my experiences (good or bad) so that I can contribute back to the sum knowledge of this topic.
If anyone is reading this, something that I suspected but was not sure of that I would like to confirm for someone else like me is that recovery roms end with a .zip extension and fastboot ones have a .tgz if you are having trouble distinguishing them. Elementary perhaps, but it's always nice to have these things confirmed.
Merry Christmas guys. I hope everyone gets whatever they want, even if that's a smile from a loved one.
Best wishes
I bought new Oneplus 3T , could you please explain little bit about the ROMs and all the root stuff.
I had Lg g5 and it seems to be very different.
Enjoy the beauty
The following are my recommendations:
Root - Magisk
Recovery - I prefer blu_spark's TWRP
ROM- If you absolutely must have Oreo, I think Validus 8.0 is the best atm. If you're fine with nougat for now (like me) then paranoid Android works well. Stock OOS is great too, if you want to keep it.
You should be able to figure out how to install the roms and root from the instructions given in the OP of each thread.
Also, I recommend installing the Google Camera app with the slow motion fix for better shots.
Links:
Magisk - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/themes/google-camera-t3681879
Slow motion mod for Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on.../magisk-hevc-60fps-slomo-gcam-op3t-5-t3666292 (also available in the Magisk repo)
Paranoid Android 7.3.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...noid-android-7-0-2-aospa-oneplus-3t-t3615015/
Validus 8.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...oms-feature-development/rom-tesla-n-t3481561/
Handy thread listing all the current 8.0 roms - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/
Have fun with your new phone!
__Michael__ said:
I bought new Oneplus 3T , could you please explain little bit about the ROMs and all the root stuff.
I had Lg g5 and it seems to be very different.
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This questions is really too vague to give a proper response. You want us to explain what exactly about ROMs and "root stuff"? It doesn't indicate to us whether you have modified phones before (custom ROM, and/or root), or what your level of knowledge is. You also don't state exactly what your goal or desire is. Do you want to flash a custom ROM? Do you want to root? Do you want both?
We can start guessing, and providing random info and answers. But it's probably not the best way to go about things. A lot of the info is already posted if you read and search. Everything you want to know has been asked and answered before, probably dozens of time. XDA has always been a wealth of information, for those willing to take the time to look for it.
Every phone has it's own nuances regarding mods like custom ROMs and root. Even different phones from the same manufacturer. Good advice for anyone, is to take at least an hour or so (even if you are experienced with mods - more if you are not) doing some reading of the existing resources, guides, etc. before you try to do anything with the phone. This will give you the best info on the proper way to mod this particular phone, with the most up-to-date methods, etc. Then, if you have specific questions or concerns, come on here and ask. In fact, I always do that research before I even buy the phone. It's part of the fun of a new phone, in my opinion.
I don't personally know anything about the G5. But the 3T is fairly easy to unlock the bootloader (mandatory in order to flash custom recovery, which is needed to flash ROMs and/or root), flash TWRP, then flash custom ROMs and/or root. The following guide is a pretty decent one: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...wrp-root-nandroid-efs-backup-and-more.475142/
Just keep in mind that some of the info (like OOS version numbers, etc.) are not completely current. And you should typically use the latest versions TWRP and SuperSU/Magisk. But the general method in the guide is still relevant.
Whether you root by SuperSU or Magisk is a personal choice. Read up on the differences, and make your decision. SuperSU is what most folks already know. But Magisk has some really cool benefits and features over SuperSU. I've personally been preferring Magisk lately. But it's by no means the only choice, or best choice for everyone.
Also, highly recommend you know how to return to stock or recover, if anything goes wrong (good advice before trying to mod any Android device). One way is using a full update zip: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/rom-oxygenos-3-5-4-mm-ota-update-t3519074
And as typical, it's highly recommended to make a TWRP backup of your stock ROM, once TWRP is installed, and before you make any mods like custom ROM or root. Which will give you another way to revert to the stock ROM, if you ever have the need.
It's obvious that the OP never dealt in the past with Root etc.
So, the first thing I would advise is start with a good understanding of what Rooting is offering in general, which has nothing to do specifically with 3T.
All devices can be rooted, so the real question is if the OP didn't care to have it in the past, what changed now?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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It's obvious that the OP never dealt in the past with Root etc.
So, the first thing I would advise is start with a good understanding of what Rooting is offering in general, which has nothing to do specifically with 3T.
All devices can be rooted, so the real question is if the OP didn't care to have it in the past, what changed now?
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
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Of course i did root in the past , but my last phone (Lg g5) wasn't rootable , there is some version with no option to open there bootloader , so i wanted to know if maybe i can have the same problem here.
Thank you all for the help , only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
__Michael__ said:
Of course i did root in the past , but my last phone (Lg g5) wasn't rootable , there is some version with no option to open there bootloader , so i wanted to know if maybe i can have the same problem here.
Thank you all for the help , only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
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Well, Root doesn't affect GPS or Camera and in any case, these kind of issues shouldn't affect the majority of users.
Unleashed by ONEPLUS 3T rooted
__Michael__ said:
Of course i did root in the past
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As I've already touched upon, your original post makes it impossible to tell your level of experience, either way. When asking such questions, it's best to be specific, give details (what you're looking to do, what your experience is, etc.)
__Michael__ said:
only one more question , i read about many GPS and camera problems , i didnt noticed any of them yet
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GPS problem seems mostly on OOS 4.1.7 and 4.5.0 (4.5.1 also, it seems). And not for everyone. At some locations, the AGPS data is outdated, and leading to long waits for the GPS to achieve a lock. So depending on your location, or if your OOS version is not updated, you might not see an issue. Consider yourself lucky, and don't go looking for a problem, if it doesn't exist!
Not sure of the specific camera problem you are referring to. Some folks have complained about blurry photos in low light, with moving subjects. If that is what you are talking about, again if you don't have an issue, don't worry about it. It's not really a "bug" in my opinion. It's in line with the performance of other smartphones. Just not as good at focus (again, specifically in low light with moving subjects) as some other phones, particularly the expensive flagships like Galaxy S8 or iPhone. But you can't expect the 3T to meet all the same technical capabilities of phones that cost about double! Also, the focus in these conditions seems a bit better on the more recent OOS updates. So again, depending on what version you are on, as well as the conditions you are taking photos, and what your expectations are; the camera may not be an issue.
JarJarWinks said:
The following are my recommendations:
Root - Magisk
Recovery - I prefer blu_spark's TWRP
ROM- If you absolutely must have Oreo, I think Validus 8.0 is the best atm. If you're fine with nougat for now (like me) then paranoid Android works well. Stock OOS is great too, if you want to keep it.
You should be able to figure out how to install the roms and root from the instructions given in the OP of each thread.
Also, I recommend installing the Google Camera app with the slow motion fix for better shots.
Links:
Magisk - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/themes/google-camera-t3681879
Slow motion mod for Google Camera - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on.../magisk-hevc-60fps-slomo-gcam-op3t-5-t3666292 (also available in the Magisk repo)
Paranoid Android 7.3.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...noid-android-7-0-2-aospa-oneplus-3t-t3615015/
Validus 8.0 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...oms-feature-development/rom-tesla-n-t3481561/
Handy thread listing all the current 8.0 roms - https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/info-list-oreo-roms-kernels-available-3-t3688139/
Have fun with your new phone!
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I agree, but with one exception. I'm using rrZenity, and i find it extremely stable on my 3t. Even more so than the official. And possibly even more so than the beautiful Sultanized rr's latest build by DroidFreak32. Plus it comes with fully functional gcam(even slowmo with all settings working perfect), adaway, wakeblock, etc. And I'm using the franco los kernel, but the built-in kernel is really good too. I'm honestly waiting for a stable RR Oreo, or oos, but thks works superbly for now. And a stable Magisk for Oreo. With Resurrection Remix, i just feel like the phone is all mine, really mine, to customize and use however I want. Just my opinion
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Know what TWRP is, a good understanding of how to use it, and what a Nandroid is. I'm no pro, but I hardbricked my phone, as a noob, and it'll scare the sht out of you. There are two brick lifesavers that you must have a pc or laptop to use, and I can provide you links via request.
Now I can flash away with no worries. Not because of the unbrick tools, but twrp will save your a*s over and over again IF you know how to use it.
And donate donate donate. Developers work hard to enable us to have fun and "play" with our phones. And they spend a lot of time doing it. When you download, flash, love a rom or kernel, mod you find...donate. This enables these developers to continue work and make improvements. I find it all fascinating and fun. And xda is probably my new best friend. Ask questions when necessary, but before you do READ READ READ
Sorry @JarJarWinks, this post was not aimed at you. Just wanted to use your quote hoping the kid who op'd it would find it useful.
gFknQ said:
I agree, but with one exception. I'm using rrZenity, and i find it extremely stable on my 3t. Even more so than the official. And possibly even more so than the beautiful Sultanized rr's latest build by DroidFreak32. Plus it comes with fully functional gcam(even slowmo with all settings working perfect), adaway, wakeblock, etc. And I'm using the franco los kernel, but the built-in kernel is really good too. I'm honestly waiting for a stable RR Oreo, or oos, but thks works superbly for now. And a stable Magisk for Oreo. With Resurrection Remix, i just feel like the phone is all mine, really mine, to customize and use however I want. Just my opinion
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If you're saying that rrZenity is better than the sultanized one, then I'll definitely have to try it and of course, franco kernel does give great battery life.
Downloading now! :good:
JarJarWinks said:
If you're saying that rrZenity is better than the sultanized one, then I'll definitely have to try it and of course, franco kernel does give great battery life.
Downloading now! :good:
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I used zenity. Then droidfreak32 put out build that was better, smoother, less issues. Latest builds, I found right the opposite. Zenity 10-01 running so smoothly, Sultanized had a couple of issues for me even though it's newer. Like I said, either one of those guys put out an oreo build I'm on it, cuz I trust both their builds. Hope you enjoy!
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Stock OOS, Magisk, Xposed, GravityBox.
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Stock OOS, Magisk, Xposed, GravityBox.
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If i install that magisk like mentioned there (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445) , will i get root?
sorry for the question , but i didn't hard about the magisk root before the one plus one .
__Michael__ said:
If i install that magisk like mentioned there (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445) , will i get root?
sorry for the question , but i didn't hard about the magisk root before the one plus one .
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Magisk has a built-in SU binary, so yes.
congratulations, chief, on the new toy!
Hello,
First of, thanks for taking the time viewing my thread. I just need some help setting up my Mi8 6/128GB | CN MIUI 10.0.6.0
I want to switch to Xiaomi EU ROM (based on a lot of good feedback and I wanna stay on stock), Sphinx Kernel and Root my phone.
So, can someone please link me the official/compatible versions of twrp, magisk and guide me step by step and what to avoid during the progress? I'm sorry, It's been a while since I've used android but I know the basics. Thank you so much for the help!
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b4mb1_ said:
Hello,
First of, thanks for taking the time viewing my thread. I just need some help setting up my Mi8 6/128GB | CN MIUI 10.0.6.0
I want to switch to Xiaomi EU ROM (based on a lot of good feedback and I wanna stay on stock), Sphinx Kernel and Root my phone.
So, can someone please link me the official/compatible versions of twrp, magisk and guide me step by step and what to avoid during the progress? I'm sorry, It's been a while since I've used android but I know the basics. Thank you so much for the help!
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Hello and welcome back to the Android modding scene. I believe this is the latest TWRP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-0-mi-8-t3837745
The most important thing is that the Xiaomi.eu rom MUST BE THE SAME MIUI VERSION OR HIGHER or you will brick without the possibility to repair (unless you have a service center or can get access to an EDL authorized account or request temporary authorization). TWRP will not stop you from flashing lower versions, and thus will brick the device.
Read this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-anti-rollback-protection-brick-phone/
After reading the entire thing, go back to the section with the bigger title that reads "How to check for Anti-Rollback Protection" and reread the smaller titles below it for instructions on how to play things safe.
Also this thread is great for "guidance" (it was for the RN5 Pro, but same principles apply):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
Lastly, for Magisk, I'm not entirely sure, as I have seen users mentioning that it does not seem to work for the latest MIUI 10, not sure if there's been a fix for that.
Crossvxm said:
Hello and welcome back to the Android modding scene. I believe this is the latest TWRP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-3-0-mi-8-t3837745
The most important thing is that the Xiaomi.eu rom MUST BE THE SAME MIUI VERSION OR HIGHER or you will brick without the possibility to repair (unless you have a service center or can get access to an EDL authorized account or request temporary authorization). TWRP will not stop you from flashing lower versions, and thus will brick the device.
Read this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-anti-rollback-protection-brick-phone/
After reading the entire thing, go back to the section with the bigger title that reads "How to check for Anti-Rollback Protection" and reread the smaller titles below it for instructions on how to play things safe.
Also this thread is great for "guidance" (it was for the RN5 Pro, but same principles apply):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-5-pro/how-to/faq-questions-answered-t3816185
Lastly, for Magisk, I'm not entirely sure, as I have seen users mentioning that it does not seem to work for the latest MIUI 10, not sure if there's been a fix for that.
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Hey man, thank you so much for the very informative reply.
So, I just need to wait for the latest release for Xiaomi EU and stay on my current firmware (avoid OTA updates) right? Can you link me the thread where i could check official EU ROMS?
Secondly, do you prefer stock recovery than TWRP? I mean I could still flash some mods with the stock right?
Also is there any other way I could root my phone with my current MIUI version. That privilege will really help me a lot.
And lastly, have you heard of this one? https://en.miui.com/thread-3620390-1-1.html will it work on my phone? After debloating, is it okay for me to flash sphinx kernel?
Thanks for your time, man. It's good to be back.
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