Hi I've used a AKG 450 headset for a long time. The sound of it was very good if I used sony's w600 Bluetooth. If I connected it to the phone the sound wasnt to much to brag about. But now I've bought a sennheiser HD25-II-2 and a Fiio E11 but the sound through the Sony just sucks. But when I connect it directly too the phone, it sound, well, bloody f***ing good! So the situation has turned 360°. So what's wrong here? It got a great DA-converter but the phone's amp cant handle any resistance?
Amplifier, not a DA converter ;-)
I'm satisfied with sound, nothing spectacular but ok. It depends on what kind of headphones you have, higher impendance means higher load on headphone amp. Some like that, some not...
But, review on GSM arena said something about almost exceptional sound when connected to external amp so check it out
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No, DA -converter. It must be really good compared to its amp. The akg is a perfect 32 ohms resistance, but still it sounded very bad indeed. But with the Fiio E11 amp it sounds so good that it just (almost) doesnt make sense
I seem to remember that the highend senheisers, needs power to play well. I always go for low resistance headphones, since i only drive them with my phone amp. Sound was good with my old Sennheiser cx300 and realy good with my Sunrise Xcape Impressive edition.
That was why I bought the amp. But I had no idea that this sound was waiting to be release from the x2! All the reviews points at the stereo crossover.
I wasn't aware about theese portable amps, i might be interested if i would gain anything with my easy driven inears. I haven't taken any concern about the crossover, i don't notice it. But I guess it would still be pressent with the amp.
I've just gone through the review from gms arena and the crossover is only with headset. That confirms what I experience with an amp. Believe me, it sounds really good!
Ok normaly the Xcapes don't need an amp. But that's with ipods and sansa clip's etc. Do you think the amp in the optimus 2 x is a lot less powerfull than mp3 players normaly is. Then i should consider getting an amp maybe the Fiio e5 ?
I havent heard the E5. Its dirt cheap and I bet it sounds like it. The E11 was about 36$ from mp4 nation when I ordred it ....
Edit: from mp4 nation: )
Ok just noticed the e6. An upgrade of e5. The sound quality is said to be good. But not on par wit e11
Just one way to find out.
i find it just a meh. the bass is flat.
The bass of E11 is very tight and punchy. Guess its the way to go then.
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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Are you sure your friend didn't say that usb would use the headunit dac instead? I know that works that way, usb c to usb into my headunit for direct file play using only the headunit dac not headunit dac+ phone dac. No, I can't see any adapters your talking about having built into dac.
I can also tell you that I can't use high res in poweramp through usb or UHQ upscaler in settings with usb audio. I prob won't use it much due to those reasons, or Bluetooth for poor audio quality and no uhq upscaler either. Leaving aux for being the best for audio on this phone.
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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The moment you use the usb-c port to play your music, it bypasses the internal DAC. This is why ALL usb-c earbuds etc have their own DAC. I honestly doubt an adapter-DAC combo less than 10 pounds will outperform the DAC in the Note 8.
There is a major distinction between
1. How the DAC processes and shapes your music.
2. How 'powerful' it is and if it can handle high impedance headphones.
Seems to me that no. 2 is likely but definitely not no.1 with the adapter you linked.
It is well known that LOUDNESS(not volume) often comes across as BETTER quality sound.
Thanks guys I'm no audiophile I just wanted better and louder sound which the usb c headphone adapter seems (placebo maybe) do I've looked around on Amazon with a few of them claiming that they have decent dac built it
Do these dac in the adapters bypass the phone dac or something ?
Hello guys !
I am not sure if anyone has noticed (or I'd rather say, has felt annoyed) by the stock headphones or by the output produced by the regular Jack 3.5 through their Type-C to Jack converter, but I have...
Personally, I am very demanding when it comes to music, and by choosing a 850-euro phone, this possible "issue" didn't cross my mind before I bought it. It seems like listening to music on this phone, (using headphones of course) comes with pluses and minuses.
As a Pro feature, the sound is excellent, the lows and highs sound quite good actually, but (there is a big "BUT") the maximum volume is too quiet, compared to other mainstream phones on the market, using mainly Jack interface for the headphones. The maximum volume on this phone, when using headphones is about 70-75% of the maximum volume on other phones (Mi Note Pro, Samsung Galaxy series, IPhone).
I made sure "Dolby atmos" is enabled, I have even tried raising all the EQ parameters (so that the general volume may be increased), I have also tried preamp-ing the sound with apps like Poweramp or Speakerbooster, but they would only sound like forced, and not actually louder, and the result is the same.
So, my sole question is : what should I do/buy/try in order to get a LOUDER experience when using headphones ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S.: sorry if I'm being awkward, it's my first post on XDA. Cheers !
Is there a safety volume limiter on?
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Robertdotnet said:
Hello guys !
I am not sure if anyone has noticed (or I'd rather say, has felt annoyed) by the stock headphones or by the output produced by the regular Jack 3.5 through their Type-C to Jack converter, but I have...
Personally, I am very demanding when it comes to music, and by choosing a 850-euro phone, this possible "issue" didn't cross my mind before I bought it. It seems like listening to music on this phone, (using headphones of course) comes with pluses and minuses.
As a Pro feature, the sound is excellent, the lows and highs sound quite good actually, but (there is a big "BUT") the maximum volume is too quiet, compared to other mainstream phones on the market, using mainly Jack interface for the headphones. The maximum volume on this phone, when using headphones is about 70-75% of the maximum volume on other phones (Mi Note Pro, Samsung Galaxy series, IPhone).
I made sure "Dolby atmos" is enabled, I have even tried raising all the EQ parameters (so that the general volume may be increased), I have also tried preamp-ing the sound with apps like Poweramp or Speakerbooster, but they would only sound like forced, and not actually louder, and the result is the same.
So, my sole question is : what should I do/buy/try in order to get a LOUDER experience when using headphones ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S.: sorry if I'm being awkward, it's my first post on XDA. Cheers !
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Hello, I don't use high quality/impedance headphones with my P20 Pro but watch this review from about 15min 15secs in. I've not verified this but hope it helps you!
https://youtu.be/nD3j00wzcao?t=15m16s
I checked with Bose QC35 and the sound is 30% louder via Bluetooth than the jack lead....... How can this be
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orangecroc said:
Is there a safety volume limiter on?
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Nope... I have checked and there's nothing like that.
Ol' Blue Eyes said:
Hello, I don't use high quality/impedance headphones with my P20 Pro but watch this review from about 15min 15secs in. I've not verified this but hope it helps you!
Thank you very much ! I think I am actually going to buy a new adapter in the near future. :highfive:
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Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
gavinfabl said:
Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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Thank you for the reply! I will consider your advice.
gavinfabl said:
Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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Link
Here you go https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter
gavinfabl said:
Here you go https://store.google.com/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter
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Thanks for the link. I found it a few hours ago, but I can't place the command, because my country is not covered by the official Google store, so I'm going to buy it from eBay
This worked a treat:
Belkertech Nylon Braided Type C to 3.5mm Audio Microphone Female
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I checked with Bose QC35 and the sound is 30% louder via Bluetooth than the jack lead....... How can this be
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Because in wired mode the headphones are driven by the phone's amp and in Bluetooth they are driven by their own internal amp. Its why you can use wired mode even when the headphone battery is depleted.
How about any advice buying replacement earphones instead of the adapter? I'd rather just have one external thing to not lose. Are there any USB-C earphones that will do the same job as the replacement USB-C to 3.5mm for regular earphones?
Robertdotnet said:
Hello guys !
I am not sure if anyone has noticed (or I'd rather say, has felt annoyed) by the stock headphones or by the output produced by the regular Jack 3.5 through their Type-C to Jack converter, but I have...
Personally, I am very demanding when it comes to music, and by choosing a 850-euro phone, this possible "issue" didn't cross my mind before I bought it. It seems like listening to music on this phone, (using headphones of course) comes with pluses and minuses.
As a Pro feature, the sound is excellent, the lows and highs sound quite good actually, but (there is a big "BUT") the maximum volume is too quiet, compared to other mainstream phones on the market, using mainly Jack interface for the headphones. The maximum volume on this phone, when using headphones is about 70-75% of the maximum volume on other phones (Mi Note Pro, Samsung Galaxy series, IPhone).
I made sure "Dolby atmos" is enabled, I have even tried raising all the EQ parameters (so that the general volume may be increased), I have also tried preamp-ing the sound with apps like Poweramp or Speakerbooster, but they would only sound like forced, and not actually louder, and the result is the same.
So, my sole question is : what should I do/buy/try in order to get a LOUDER experience when using headphones ?
Thank you in advance !
P.S.: sorry if I'm being awkward, it's my first post on XDA. Cheers !
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I find it as loud as my S8 plus or Pixel 2 through headphones, but BT is where it's at for volume.
fingerbob said:
How about any advice buying replacement earphones instead of the adapter? I'd rather just have one external thing to not lose. Are there any USB-C earphones that will do the same job as the replacement USB-C to 3.5mm for regular earphones?
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I don't think I need head/earphones. I have 2 pairs of earphones (Samsung and Sennheiser), a pair of HyperX Cloud Stinger II, and studio headsets from Focusrite. I have tried all of them. And they are not the problem.
I've had many Huawei phones and 3,5mm volume has always been too low
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/guide-boost-headphones-volume-t3803824
If you have unlocked bootloader..
gavinfabl said:
Just buy the Google Pixel 3.5mm USB C adapter , its the best. I also have the HTC adapter, but Google's one is better.
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In what way are these better than the HTC adapters?
Robertdotnet said:
Thanks for the link. I found it a few hours ago, but I can't place the command, because my country is not covered by the official Google store, so I'm going to buy it from eBay
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I use the HTC dongle linked in the video above. It makes a noticeable difference. Even my cheap £15 earphones are much louder using it over the Huawei dongle.
It won't blow you away, so be realistic but it is DEFINITELY a noticeable improvement and worth the investment if you listen to music.
In fact, even my larger headphones were louder but I think you need a dac/amp to really enjoy louder volumes on large headphones. It's the cheap earphones that I found gave the loudest sound.
hello dear forum, I ask for your help and am grateful for any helpful comment. and although I have an old z2 where I use Viper4android. the sound of the mobile phone sounds strong and full of sound. on my sony xz2 I did not have the full sound, especially not the full sound. (stereo moderately) suspect that it is s.einlaced on the phone adapter from sony. Can anybody confirm this?
need more information. your post does not make sense. audio on the xz2 is excellent, probably only beaten by LG and their Quad DAC. It doesnt need any silly audio enhancement or equalizer. If you can afford the xz2, please buy better earphones and invest in better audio quality sources instead of blaming the device.
Dongle + Sony WH1000XM2 on Spotify premium sound awesome , everything is crystal clear .. Hell I've heard parts of some songs that I did not know were there ...
Also on the same headphones but wireless the quality of playback is amazing ..
I do think that the problem lies in your "equipment" ( maybe the dongle is broken or your headphones are poor quality/ broken )
Spam97 said:
Dongle + Sony WH1000XM2 on Spotify premium sound awesome , everything is crystal clear .. Hell I've heard parts of some songs that I did not know were there ...
Also on the same headphones but wireless the quality of playback is amazing ..
I do think that the problem lies in your "equipment" ( maybe the dongle is broken or your headphones are poor quality/ broken )
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do you mean with dongle the headphone adapter? does anyone have any idea how I get the htc adapter from the U11 on my xz2 in connection with Viper4android to run?
Sony92 said:
do you mean with dongle the headphone adapter? does anyone have any idea how I get the htc adapter from the U11 on my xz2 in connection with Viper4android to run?
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Yes that's what I meant when I said dongle .. The USB-C to 3.5mm Jack adapter that comes with the phone ..
OK. do you have any idea why Viper4android does not recognize the htc adapter? have written with someone who owns a htc u11 smartphone. with him the adapter goes with Viper4android. but on a costum rom
Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
Danchibald said:
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
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because the sound quality from the 3.5mm is so poor
I have huawei p20 headphones also with usb-c and these are better than anything else.
spender1 said:
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
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Want to know does it worths to buy the adaptor just for sound quality improvement?
That's a difficult question as I always find audio a very personal thing.
I have just tried my Akg K451 headphones with both the audio jack on the phone and the HTC adaptor.
The HTC 3.5 mm adaptor is significantly louder than the audio jack at full volume. I notice some distortion in the audio jack that is absent on the HTC adaptor. I think the audio from the adaptor is fuller and far more pleasing to my ear.
I have no idea how these things work, for instance does the HTC adaptor have its own DAC or is it simply a pass through device? The difference in audio level would suggest to me the presence of its own DAC so maybe that would account for the difference in audio .
Maybe it's worth buying the adaptor just to drive certain headphones better. I have a pair of status audio headphones at home that I normally use with a headphone amp to drive them I will try them on the 7 plus later to see how they sound with the audio jack and the adaptor.
Sorry I can't be more definitive.
By the way the HTC adaptor is around £10 in the UK direct from HTC.
Is the sound quality and volume really that bad or is it just some specific/batch units?
I listen to a lot of audiobooks on the go and it would be a shame if this was a dealbreaker.
No I don't find the audio particularly bad and most of the time it is loud enough.
Most of the time I use the 3.5 jack and don't have a problem but when I'm sitting listening to music and doing nothing else I prefer the audio from my HTC adapter.
The volume will depend on the impeadence of the headphones used, my AKG headphones are always much louder than my status audio ones when used in the same device.
lhkakex said:
Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
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I think it can，I used a Xiaomi's type-c headset that can be used
Quite strangely, My Mi A2's USB-C to 3.5 adapter DOES NOT WORK with my Nokia 7+