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Nougat coming in the next few months...?
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/09/27/moto-z-moto-g4-nougat-update-release-date-q4/
Sounds good to me! I'm on DL every day, but man there are some haters in the comments lol. It's like Motorola/Lenovo killed their firstborn or something.
blynkofaneye said:
Sounds good to me! I'm on DL every day, but man there are some haters in the comments lol. It's like Motorola/Lenovo killed their firstborn or something.
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I've always been of the mind that people are more likely to post to complain than otherwise. You rarely see, "hey, this is great!" .. I think it is often assumed that posting those kinds of comments add nothing to the discussion, so people don't do it...
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I've always been of the mind that people are more likely to post to complain than otherwise. You rarely see, "hey, this is great!" .. I think it is often assumed that posting those kinds of comments add nothing to the discussion, so people don't do it...
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Agreed. I see what you did there.
If it turns out to be true and even if they they just push it to those who oped in for soak test and whatnot and not a full out release in the next few weeks i am happy with Lenovo and this phone. I love what Lenovo did with the phone. I said updates will make or break it and i was scared about that when they said they could not commit to the security patches. But were getting those patches and have a word on the update so far so good. Hope they keep it up. This is the best phone out all around.
I'll still believe it when I see it. Moto has really been sucking badly on updates the last few years.
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JasonJoel said:
I'll still believe it when I see it. Moto has really been sucking badly on updates the last few years.
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But the last few months they've been excelling!
All I know, as a Samsung fanboy in the past... I couldn't be happier that I chose to change to the Z Force... besides not bursting into flames in my pocket... the battery life puts EVERY Samsung I ever had to shame.
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But the last few months they've been excelling!
All I know, as a Samsung fanboy in the past... I couldn't be happier that I chose to change to the Z Force... besides not bursting into flames in my pocket... the battery life puts EVERY Samsung I ever had to shame.
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I agree 100% the funny part is I decided I needed a non samsung device as soon as I saw that lil wayne commercial that had him dumping champagne on the phone. I told coworkers that wanted the Note 7 prior to the release to get this phone instead because Samsung spent far too much for lil wayne for proper research and development, they all made fun of me...until the note started exploding.
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I agree 100% the funny part is I decided I needed a non samsung device as soon as I saw that lil wayne commercial that had him dumping champagne on the phone. I told coworkers that wanted the Note 7 prior to the release to get this phone instead because Samsung spent far too much for lil wayne for proper research and development, they all made fun of me...until the note started exploding.
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Off topic but the issue is simple with the Note 7. I checked this my self. But its not cheap for them and the "Fixed" ones were not fixed and there was no way for them to fix it.
Simple version. The IC samsung chosen to handle the monitoring of the voltage for the battery was the cheapest they could find. That being said they can be way off in terms of calibration. The note 7 i had charged my battery to 4.9v. Phone would read 4.405v but a fluke on the batt reads 4.921v. And that is dangerous. So for all i know they could be charging to 5+ volts and no wounder they are bursting into flames. Issue has nothing to do with the battery and changing it wont do a thing. Its an issue with the ic on the board. And the IC has been used in other things that handle li-ion and li-po related charging and also caused problems on them.
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So we get 7.0 before the end of the year. Im guessing November. So far so good on the updates. But im wondering if they are going 7.0 or just going to jump to 7.1. Chances are no 7.1 that fast but so far the updates have been good. And the moto mod updates have been amazing. I would like to see 7.0 by Nov. 17th. But we prob wont see the roll out start until the end of Nov.
Does anyone know if Nougat will return the ability to save to SD or move apps to external sd?
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Does anyone know if Nougat will return the ability to save to SD or move apps to external sd?
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It will not. Motorola has removed the Apps 2 SD feature. It was replaced by Adoptable Storage.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582
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Just finished installing the Nougat update on my phone. After updating I tested it out in a Daydream VR and it works!
I wish someone would post the update files
Uuuurgh I wish there was a way to force it. I've been obsessively checking for software updates all day :|
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Just finished installing the Nougat update on my phone. After updating I tested it out in a Daydream VR and it works!
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Yes yes yes yes yes. Got rid of my Gear VR and S7 Edge for a PSVR and have been waiting for a good headset for my Z Droid. So it works with the remote and what not?
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So it works with the remote and what not?
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Yup, works exactly like it does on the Pixel. It runs the Daydream app, supports the VR keyboard, etc.
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Yup, works exactly like it does on the Pixel. It runs the Daydream app, supports the VR keyboard, etc.
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Did you sign up for soak test?
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Did you sign up for soak test?
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Not that I'm aware of. I've done plenty of soak tests for previous Moto devices and I got invites for soak tests for the camera and projector (which I don't have either), but I never got one for the phone. The update just popped up for me last night.
So far the only Nougat issues I'm having is the fact that my Ambient Moto Display no longer works. Slightly annoying, but it could be worse.
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Not that I'm aware of. I've done plenty of soak tests for previous Moto devices and I got invites for soak tests for the camera and projector (which I don't have either), but I never got one for the phone. The update just popped up for me last night.
So far the only Nougat issues I'm having is the fact that my Ambient Display no longer works. Slightly annoying, but it could be worse.
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Great that means it's a general release!
Do a hard reset, it's always recommended to do a hard reset after a major update for optimal performance and user experience.
Strike my last statement. I just got it working. I need up just clearing the data for the Moto app and set it up again. Moto Display seems to work perfectly fine now.
Hi all, appreciate best practice is always to read posted guides but I'm getting kinda old and too many threads are only relevant at particular points in time when the 5th Gen Fire was newer. So basically I'm lost in conflicting info on the guides and need some direction.
Starting point is i) I've got 'basic' experience of rooting and flashing roms, so my PC has got ADB drivers etc. ii) I have a stock OS 5.4.0.0 5th Gen Fire which is my elderly mothers and the intention is to get the crap OS removed and make it a simple Nexus 7'like device.
Can somebody please give me some step-by-step advice. I'm at the point where the device is developer enabled and ABD enabled. But the guides I've seen are all based on old OS's so I fear the whatever I try next will just brick the unit.
Thx in advance
As of now, 5.3.2.1 - 5.4.0.0 can not be rooted, much less have the bootloader unlocked to install a custom ROM.
aww bummer
OK second question : How should I treat the term "As of now"? Do you think there is any likelihood of a 5.4.0.0 root solution happening soon? i.e. weeks or months?
If its not gonna be a while, then I might just install the non-root google-play stuff and just shift the bloaty stuff out of sight if I can.
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OK second question : How should I treat the term "As of now"? Do you think there is any likelihood of a 5.4.0.0 root solution happening soon? i.e. weeks or months?
If its not gonna be a while, then I might just install the non-root google-play stuff and just shift the bloaty stuff out of sight if I can.
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EDIT: The usual warning: I am not responsible for any damage done to your device. If using ANY of these guides, you're doing so at your own risk.
That's about your only option at the moment. You can use the guide here, which will install the appropriate google services needed. You can then use this guide to manually 'uninstall' system/Amazon applications (you aren't really uninstalling them, just disabling them). Or use the automatic tool here, which will uninstall a significant number of the Amazon 'bloatware' and install the Google services and a few other Google related apps.
I CANNOT STRESS THIS NOTE ENOUGH: Whether you uninstall apps manually or automatically, please be aware you have to replace the Amazon apps BEFORE you uninstall them. For example, if you want to use contacts, you should install the necessary Google Contact APKs, open 'Contacts' then uninstall Amazon contacts. DO NOT UNINSTALL the Amazon Contact Storage APK or no contact applications will function properly, if at all. There is a guide here where you can install Google Contacts and get a fun little surprise as a result of doing so.
A factory reset will bring back all system apps you uninstall whether you uninstall them manually or automatically. So if anything stops working or you uninstall something that broke something else, factory resetting will fix the tablet, but you'll have to start over.
If you want to use a custom launcher like Nova Launcher, you can read this post which will describe how to do so. In this post I explain how to disable Fire Launcher without breaking the home button. Please read the WHOLE post, including the very bottom where there's a link that describes a 'fix' for the recent apps button (square button) which has a fit when you uninstall Fire Launcher (even on rooted devices). Just tap on 'hide Fire Launcher BEFORE' at the bottom which will take you to a page where you can activate widgets. Read the very bottom and it will tell you how to 'fix' the recent apps button. When you swipe closed apps using the recent apps button, swiping the last one will kick you to the lock screen or black you out for a moment. The fix is kinda cheesy, but it is a fix. I use it on my HD 8.
In this post I describe what Amazon apps I did NOT uninstall. Note this list of apps will differ slightly from the ones installed on the HD 7, but not by very much. This list MIGHT allow you to use Gmail (which doesn't work on any tablet model) and a few other apps.
Very soon, I plan to make a thread with a detailed tutorial on how to do all of this, so it's in one single spot for everyone to find.
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As of now, 5.3.2.1 - 5.4.0.0 can not be rooted, much less have the bootloader unlocked to install a custom ROM.
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For awareness/clarity: root and SuperSU (no other root manager) are the only prerequisites for installing a custom ROM on this device via FlashFire. The bootloader does not need to be unlocked.
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For awareness/clarity: root and SuperSU (no other root manager) are the only prerequisites for installing a custom ROM on this device via FlashFire. The bootloader does not need to be unlocked.
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Thanks Davey, yeah I'm not ultimately looking for a rooted device, I just want a clean Nexus'like rom with no bloated crap on it. As a plan-B I will follow the other guide notes that DragonFire kindly provided. But primarily if you are still staying I can get Flashfire to install a custom Nexus rom, then please can you guide me to the appropriate instructions to make Flashfire come to life.
I have Flashfire installed...but it just warns there are no permissions etc.
Thanks
ebod said:
Thanks Davey, yeah I'm not ultimately looking for a rooted device, I just want a clean Nexus'like rom with no bloated crap on it. As a plan-B I will follow the other guide notes that DragonFire kindly provided. But primarily if you are still staying I can get Flashfire to install a custom Nexus rom, then please can you guide me to the appropriate instructions to make Flashfire come to life.
I have Flashfire installed...but it just warns there are no permissions etc.
Thanks
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A custom ROM (ie: Nexus) can not be installed on this device without root. I do not foresee that happening anytime soon with the so you're stuck with FireOS for a bit. It's not a bad skin once you get used to it.
@DragonFire1024 provided a nice summary of the available tweaks and associated caveats. I suggest going slow; start with the Google Play Store and some light visual customizations. Save the all-or-nothing 'debloat script' until have have a better idea of what to keep.
Most importantly, enjoy your new device and don't fret over what could have been.
This list MIGHT allow you to use Gmail (which doesn't work on any tablet model) and a few other apps.
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Ummm... Gmail works fine on my Fire.
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For awareness/clarity: root and SuperSU (no other root manager) are the only prerequisites for installing a custom ROM on this device via FlashFire. The bootloader does not need to be unlocked.
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I did not know that. If that's the case, as soon as root is obtainable I'm installing the Fire Nexus ROM.
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Ummm... Gmail works fine on my Fire.
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You're lucky then. Many users have had issues with Gmail either force closing or not working at all. Hope the rest was somewhat helpful.
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Ummm... Gmail works fine on my Fire.
I did not know that. If that's the case, as soon as root is obtainable I'm installing the Fire Nexus ROM.
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*IF* it becomes available. I've had my tablets almost a year, maybe a months or so under one. That's how long I've been waiting. Some have been waiting longer.
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Ummm... Gmail works fine on my Fire.
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Initially and for many months after the Gmail app worked fine on 5th-7th gen devices with Google Play Services/Store installed. The app started crashing on launch following a silent update (lasted about 2 months) then started working again a few weeks ago.
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Jake1702_ said:
Ummm... Gmail works fine on my Fire.
Initially (and for many months after) the Gmail app worked fine on 5th-7th gen devices with Google Play Services/Store installed. The app started crashing on launch following a silent update (lasted about 2 months) then started working again a few weeks ago.
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I read somewhere where quite a few people had put a bug report in or something to that effect. A few days later there was an update to Gmail. That's about the time I installed it and it worked perfectly for me. I'm willing to bet Google did something that that made it possible to use again. Did Amazon do something to block is from using it? In my opinion, not likely. But what caused it? Not a clue. There is some speculation it had to do to with a permission, but that's only speculation. This is something we'll likely never get the answer to.
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... as soon as root is obtainable I'm installing the Fire Nexus ROM.
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Don't get your hopes up. There's a reason securing root on Amazon and other manufacturer devices has become more difficult over the past 12-18 months. While I appreciate the euphemistic optimism shown by some the tightened security and legacy code cleanup initiated by Google is actually a good thing for the general Android user community. Of course, XDAers hate it (spare me the sermon on someone controlling *your* device) but they don't represent the much larger community that Amazon and other market driven companies are targeting. Business/capatolism 101.
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Initially and for many months after the Gmail app worked fine on 5th-7th gen devices with Google Play Services/Store installed. The app started crashing on launch following a silent update (lasted about 2 months) then started working again a few weeks ago.
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Might just have been the perfect period of time during when I had mine sitting and not being used. Guess I'm just lucky.
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Don't get your hopes up. There's a reason securing root on Amazon and other manufacturer devices has become more difficult over the past 12-18 months. While I appreciate the euphemistic optimism shown by some the tightened security and legacy code cleanup initiated by Google is actually a good thing for the general Android user community. Of course, XDAers hate it (spare me the sermon on someone controlling *your* device) but they don't represent the much larger community that Amazon and other market driven companies are targeting. Business/capatolism 101.
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It is definitely possible, just not enough people spending time on this device, they are all focused on more popular brands/devices.
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Might just have been the perfect period of time during when I had mine sitting and not being used. Guess I'm just lucky.
It is definitely possible, just not enough people spending time on this device, they are all focused on more popular brands/devices.
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This I will actually agree with. But to be honest, I really thought we'd have a good chance after Prime Day. I really thought we'd have gotten it then, but I still have hopes.
That being said, the tricks and hacks we've discovered over the last few months are pretty amazing. The method of 'uninstalling' I mentioned a few posts ago, was never intended nor expected to work on these tablets. It had sat on XDA for a couple days before I literally said out loud: "oh what the hell. I can't break anything." So gave it a shot and was incredibly surprised to see it really did disable Amazon Video.
With the tricks and hacks I also mentioned a few posts back, really does go a long way in terms of a custom ROM. Aside from the technical aspects and apps, in my opinion it's pretty much a custom systemless ROM. Though some may disagree with me very much.
Feel free to ask any question you like. We'll do our best to help.
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This I will actually agree with. But to be honest, I really thought we'd have a good chance after Prime Day. I really thought we'd have gotten it then, but I still have hopes.
That being said, the tricks and hacks we've discovered over the last few months are pretty amazing. The method of 'uninstalling' I mentioned a few posts ago, was never intended nor expected to work on these tablets. It had sat on XDA for a couple days before I literally said out loud: "oh what the hell. I can't break anything." So gave it a shot and was incredibly surprised to see it really did disable Amazon Video.
With the tricks and hacks I also mentioned a few posts back, really does go a long way in terms of a custom ROM. Aside from the technical aspects and apps, in my opinion it's pretty much a custom systemless ROM. Though some may disagree with me very much.
Feel free to ask any question you like. We'll do our best to help.
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Funny how for months now this device still hasn't been rooted, yet a few days after the release of the Samsung Galaxy S8, it was already rooted. Simply, those devices have much more people willing to take time to find exploits for, whereas the Fire does not. It's a shame really.
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Funny how for months now this device still hasn't been rooted, yet a few days after the release of the Samsung Galaxy S8, it was already rooted. Simply, those devices have much more people willing to take time to find exploits for, whereas the Fire does not. It's a shame really.
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There just may not be any at the moment. Amazon has done a lot to this OS, so much so, I've seen posts where users don't even consider it an Android base anymore. Depending on what you read, I've seen other sites where some say its too butchered.
Also keep in mind when an exploit is found, some have been around for a very long time. So one may exist, but no one has either found it yet so no method exists or as you say, may not care enough to take the time to make a method. Every Android device is different. The OS is customized and programed to a manufacturers liking who also add their own customization, then is passed off to a service provider who further customizes it. In that period exploits are patched or simply don't work because what's exploited in certain devices, may not exist in other devices. The list and possibilities really could go on.
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There just may not be any at the moment. Amazon has done a lot to this OS, so much so, I've seen posts where users don't even consider it an Android base anymore. Depending on what you read, I've seen other sites where some say its too butchered.
Also keep in mind when an exploit is found, some have been around for a very long time. So one may exist, but no one has either found it yet so no method exists or as you say, may not care enough to take the time to make a method. Every Android device is different. The OS is customized and programed to a manufacturers liking who also add their own customization, then is passed off to a service provider who further customizes it. In that period exploits are patched or simply don't work because what's exploited in certain devices, may not exist in other devices. The list and possibilities really could go on.
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I wonder if it would be possible "break" the bootloader, so-to-speak, to a point where it "works" but is flawed, allowing the installation of a custom ROM.
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I wonder if it would be possible "break" the bootloader, so-to-speak, to a point where it "works" but is flawed, allowing the installation of a custom ROM.
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Not likely. I have a list of things to try on my head. Some simple, some outrageous. Truth is this HD 8 has been through hell. I've reset it more times than I can count. I've nearly disected it and to be honest I'm absolutely amazed I haven't broken it yet. So I'm giving her a break from that right now.
With that said, I have an HD 7 that's rooted. I have an idea to try some things using it, that could work on non rooted 7 and up tablets, that would be totally systemless that could open up the possibilities to some things. I've been disecting the HD 7 for some ideas and plan to do some testing very soon. I'm the type that will immediately look at all settings and functions and then look through every file, folder and directory I'm able to, so we can do what many of us have already achieved. Keep an eye on me
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Not likely. I have a list of things to try on my head. Some simple, some outrageous. Truth is this HD 8 has been through hell. I've reset it more times than I can count. I've nearly disected it and to be honest I'm absolutely amazed I haven't broken it yet. So I'm giving her a break from that right now.
With that said, I have an HD 7 that's rooted. I have an idea to try some things using it, that could work on non rooted 7 and up tablets, that would be totally systemless that could open up the possibilities to some things. I've been disecting the HD 7 for some ideas and plan to do some testing very soon. I'm the type that will immediately look at all settings and functions and then look through every file, folder and directory I'm able to, so we can do what many of us have already achieved. Keep an eye on me
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If someone were to go so deep to a point where they took it apart, maybe it would be possible to modify the bootloader by setting up a custom one.
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I have been seeing that apps like Package Disabler have been struggling to get around disabling packages with latest updates from samsung. Many users on the Play store keep complaining it doesn't work. Will the latest software of Note 8 work with package disabling? What about AdHell? is it as good a disabler like Package and BK?
Works fine in s8 plus. Perfect way to disable sh*tby totally.
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Works fine in s8 plus. Perfect way to disable sh*tby totally.
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Can the Bixby button be used for something else if it is disabled.
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Can the Bixby button be used for something else if it is disabled.
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Yes there are a few different apps for remapping the Bixby key or if you root you can do it yourself manually too.
Check in the s8 themes and apps section on XDA or just wait and they'll come to this one too.
However I like Bixby, it's quite helpful and saves me time
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Yes there are a few different apps for remapping the Bixby key or if you root you can do it yourself manually too.
Check in the s8 themes and apps section on XDA or just wait and they'll come to this one too.
However I like Bixby, it's quite helpful and saves me time
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I'm not planning on rooting, just disabling any unnecessary packages. I'm pretty happy with the Google assistant, and think that's likely to be superior to Bixby.
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I'm not planning on rooting, just disabling any unnecessary packages. I'm pretty happy with the Google assistant, and think that's likely to be superior to Bixby.
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The apps have non root options available so you should be good to go with those.
package disable doesnt work all the time. Its a known fact.
Samsung has told the dev to change some thing so it doesnt work.
I had it install on my phone and work great. Then one day i went to add another app to the list and the program wouldnt load.
So i uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Then got an error 102. Contacted the dev and he said it was samsungs fault and if im getting that error to uninstall and ask for a refund.
So with all that being said i doubt it will work on the note 8. I hope it does since i like to block ota updates but we will see what happens.
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package disable doesnt work all the time. Its a known fact.
Samsung has told the dev to change some thing so it doesnt work.
I had it install on my phone and work great. Then one day i went to add another app to the list and the program wouldnt load.
So i uninstalled it and reinstalled it. Then got an error 102. Contacted the dev and he said it was samsungs fault and if im getting that error to uninstall and ask for a refund.
So with all that being said i doubt it will work on the note 8. I hope it does since i like to block ota updates but we will see what happens.
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Curious what phone your currently using. My co worker just got the S8 and contacted the dev. The dev replied almost immediately with a link to the newest version that was not fully released yet. He hasn't had a problem since. That was this past week.
PDP Pro is working fine on my Note 4. That is an older phone that is on Marshmallow. It works well. I took a look at what was installed on the Verizon variant when I was in the Verizon store today and there was not much on it. Much, much less than what they installed on my Note 4. Does anyone know if they just put less on the model phones in the stores, or will there really be that little junk on the phone?
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Curious what phone your currently using. My co worker just got the S8 and contacted the dev. The dev replied almost immediately with a link to the newest version that was not fully released yet. He hasn't had a problem since. That was this past week.
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Tmobile s8+ The dev email me back within 5 mins and said if i got that error to ask for a refund and it wouldnt work. This was about 2 weeks ago.
But as said the app work when i first got my s8+ and installed it. but then i went to open it and it didnt open so uninstalled and reinstalled and it didnt work any more.
I'm sure they will work, some work better then others. the Bixby button is something that a lot of people don't really care for so if there is a way to remap/disable it, a post will be up fairly quick.
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I have been seeing that apps like Package Disabler have been struggling to get around disabling packages with latest updates from samsung. Many users on the Play store keep complaining it doesn't work. Will the latest software of Note 8 work with package disabling? What about AdHell? is it as good a disabler like Package and BK?
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it would be nice if they support they note 8 given the nasty they did to their customers when they caved to samsung and modified their app to let the stupid battery cap updates go thru on the note 7.
dear policedeveloper: that really sucked and you are gonna have to come back from that nasty deed. until you redeem yourselves, developer = police.
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it would be nice if they support they note 8 given the nasty they did to their customers when they caved to samsung and modified their app to let the stupid battery cap updates go thru on the note 7.
dear policedeveloper: that really sucked and you are gonna have to come back from that nasty deed. until you redeem yourselves, developer = police.
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Sorry, can't agree with this. Their decision to side with Samsung on this was good business sense. Had any customer using it been "lit up" by a faulty battery while the installation of the update was blocked by PD, they'd have been wide open to a lawsuit regardless of what the license agreement said.
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Sorry, can't agree with this. Their decision to side with Samsung on this was good business sense. Had any customer using it been "lit up" by a faulty battery while the installation of the update was blocked by PD, they'd have been wide open to a lawsuit regardless of what the license agreement said.
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i agree that this is the case but all the same i remember when it happened and was annoyed - i planned, as i have done, to use the note 7 for as long as i could and i was incensed at the attempts to hobble it and end those plans prematurely.
luckily i dodged this (and the others) and got a lot of good use out of it as a tablet. it totally rocked as a backup telecommute device or when on the go. the s-pen is what makes it work. remote desktop on windows 10 is actually pretty functional for coding. and this is a phone i just sold for $380. i can't complain about how it ended up but, yeah, i was a bit upset that these devs were assisting the attempts to hobble it.
i can't wait to try to work using the note 8. i checked one out in best buy yesterday and, tho intimidated by the size (that sounds wrong), i have high hopes for how it will perform as a telecommuting device.
The cliche of Chinese products being flawed is unfortunately extending even to well known brands like Huawei which I was hoping wouldn't be the case.
Not long ago I returned yet another dysfunctional piece of kit from a Chinese company and I'm on the verge of returning my Mate 10.
If I knew better I'd also return my Mate 9.
The Mate 9 has had a lot of issues (GPS for example) and for me, ruining my holiday, the random inability to change network settings to allow data roaming. Only a back up and hard reset which took the best part of a day worked.
Now the Mate 10 has the well documented horrific flaw of not updating widgets. What's worse is there is COMPLETE silence from Huawei over this issue despite repeated attempts through various channels for a response by me.
My phone is pretty much unusable. Widgets are the crowning glory of Android and the reason I jumped ship from iPhone and stayed. Without reliable updating widgets the phone is little more than a brick.
With my two experiences with Huawei phones I can categorically say that they are just unreliable sub-par products sadly.
My Samsungs have all had hardware issues (battery related), btu at least whilst they were intact they worked flawlessly as advertised, fit for purpose. The Huaweis are not even getting to the stage to be used enough for the hardware to fail as they are just not fit for purpose - far too buggy.
I hope I never touch a Huawei product again and can only hope that the competitors build phones with specs good enough to compete.
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applehater00 said:
The cliche of Chinese products being flawed is unfortunately extending even to well known brands like Huawei which I was hoping wouldn't be the case.
Not long ago I returned yet another dysfunctional piece of kit from a Chinese company and I'm on the verge of returning my Mate 10.
If I knew better I'd also return my Mate 9.
The Mate 9 has had a lot of issues (GPS for example) and for me, ruining my holiday, the random inability to change network settings to allow data roaming. Only a back up and hard reset which took the best part of a day worked.
Now the Mate 10 has the well documented horrific flaw of not updating widgets. What's worse is there is COMPLETE silence from Huawei over this issue despite repeated attempts through various channels for a response by me.
My phone is pretty much unusable. Widgets are the crowning glory of Android and the reason I jumped ship from iPhone and stayed. Without reliable updating widgets the phone is little more than a brick.
With my two experiences with Huawei phones I can categorically say that they are just unreliable sub-par products sadly.
My Samsungs have all had hardware issues (battery related), btu at least whilst they were intact they worked flawlessly as advertised, fit for purpose. The Huaweis are not even getting to the stage to be used enough for the hardware to fail as they are just not fit for purpose - far too buggy.
I hope I never touch a Huawei product again and can only hope that the competitors build phones with specs good enough to compete.
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Widgets work fine for me. No issues with auto updates.
gee2012 said:
Widgets work fine for me. No issues with auto updates.
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Thanks for the feedback. Perhaps the 10 Pro is different.
For me and for many others (check the threads) this is a big deal that is as yet unresolved even with yesterday's update.
No problems here with my Mate 10.
Using Huawei phones since 2013 and no plans to change yet.
Overreaction of there ever was one
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Overreaction of there ever was one
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Of you say so mate. Of you say so.
Change ur nickname to huaweihater lol
gm007 said:
Change ur nickname to huaweihater lol
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My thought, exactly! [emoji23]
Pretoriano80 said:
My thought, exactly! [emoji23]
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Hehe I could do, but I don't hate Huawei really, I just wouldn't recommend people buy their products based on my (and a whole multi-page threadful of) experiences on the flaws with this phone and Huawei's comically bad response to it, which so far seems to be "if widgets do't work that's not our fault - they are third party apps - you wouldn't buy a car and put a truck engine in it so why are you installing widgets?"... no BS, check out the thread. They are ridiculous. But nowhere near as Apple and their deliberate slowing of phones. My Mate 9 actuall gets faster with use - exactly as Huawei claims., They do do some stuff right!
The widget updating issue is frustrating, but rooting (as I explained in the thread) solves the issue by letting you freeze the responsible system app. You may not want to root -- and I agree that you shouldn't have to root to fix this issue -- but you might be a much happier camper if you did.
Mate 10 pro here and no problem with my widgets.
mikaole said:
Mate 10 pro here and no problem with my widgets.
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Not sure which Widgets you use, but it's mainly the scrolling types that freeze up.
Ok. No scrolling widget. Will try my mail widget later.
Had a p9 since they first came out and now a mate 10 pro. Best phones I have had and don't see any of those issues. Neither of them were rooted either.
No problem on my mate 10 pro. It's strange this message. Just now that the all patriotic America has fear of other smartphone maker. There aren't just apple or samsung...
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The widget updating issue is frustrating, but rooting (as I explained in the thread) solves the issue by letting you freeze the responsible system app. You may not want to root -- and I agree that you shouldn't have to root to fix this issue -- but you might be a much happier camper if you did.
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Ah... it's such a big thread it's got to 12 or 13 pages now (yes guys.... this is a big problem and no i'm not the only one) that I must've missed your solution. Every solution' has come back a couple of days later with "no sorry the problem persists". I'm open to rooting if need be I'm just scared to do it largely because mine is a CHinese one with an international ROM put on it, I have no idea how that will pan out. Or how it will affect other aspects of EMUI. Might be going down a rabbithole there... might be best to return it and buy... well... there's nothing else that comes close to this sadly Grrr.
what a troll... can one of the admins close this thread? please?
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what a troll... can one of the admins close this thread? please?
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Um.. sorry how am I a troll by saying Huawei has a problem and I wouldn't recommend it?
applehater00 said:
Um.. sorry how am I a troll by saying Huawei has a problem and I wouldn't recommend it?
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Scrolling widgets like chrome and Gmail is no problem for me, tried a factory reset?
So both my sister and I have the same model unlocked Pixel 5 and are using our phones on T-Mobile's network as well.
I've noticed that on my phone I get the Google Play system update (not to be confused with the main phone/security update) whenever I do a manual check for it and a new one's available (Settings, Security, Google Play system update, tap on "Check for update"). But when I do the same thing on her phone, it doesn't update it, even after I restart and ensure that the Google Play Store app is up-to-date as well.
Eventually her phone finally got the December 1 update a couple weeks ago after I tried again, but then now there's a January 1 update and once again mine let me download it right away, but her phone refuses to update that regardless of what I do (main update it does do just fine though).
I'm guessing it will update it soon enough, but why the delay? Can anyone explain why two IDENTICAL phones won't update this at the same time when manually prompted?
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Hey Saturday Night,
Thanks for the link. However, even if it does work for her phone, I still would rather not use it b/c doing so doesn't solve the actual issue of why it's not updating it automatically, or at the very least, when I attempt to update it manually (by doing a recheck).
It seems to update eventually, but I just find it annoying that my phone will do it when I recheck, but not her's. Makes no sense since again we have the same model phone and are on the same carrier.
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Hey Saturday Night,
Thanks for the link. However, even if it does work for her phone, I still would rather not use it b/c doing so doesn't solve the actual issue of why it's not updating it automatically, or at the very least, when I attempt to update it manually (by doing a recheck).
It seems to update eventually, but I just find it annoying that my phone will do it when I recheck, but not her's. Makes no sense since again we have the same model phone and are on the same carrier.
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Same thing happens to me but in reverse. My wife P5 gets it and then about a month later I get it on my P5. I don't really think about it since it really doesn't affect anything. Is there a reason you feel you need it?
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Same thing happens to me but in reverse. My wife P5 gets it and then about a month later I get it on my P5. I don't really think about it since it really doesn't affect anything. Is there a reason you feel you need it?
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Hey Bobby,
Ok, so it's not JUST me. Good to know. lol
No, not really. As I'd mentioned, it's really not a big deal. I just hope it doesn't indicate that there might be a deeper issue present with her phone. Also, I just hate that I can't explain why it happens at all. lol
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Hey Bobby,
Ok, so it's not JUST me. Good to know. lol
No, not really. As I'd mentioned, it's really not a big deal. I just hope it doesn't indicate that there might be a deeper issue present with her phone. Also, I just hate that I can't explain why it happens at all. lol
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The only thing I can think of is that it's a staged rollout and a random one at that. I update my phone's apps more often than she does so I figured that might be it and then forgot about it. A month later it popped up. I believe the monthlies are way more critical and those come at the same time.
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The only thing I can think of is that it's a staged rollout and a random one at that.
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You are correct. It's a scattered release.
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You are correct. It's a scattered release.
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Yes. I agree with you both. This answer seems to make the most sense, and so therefore I'm going to consider this issue resolved.
Thank you all so much for your posts!!
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That's not really an update but more of a place holder. The real update is much larger and can't be installed with an apk. It will change the date to make it look up to date but that's it.