I have to say my Diamond camera pictures are superb. I really do like the quality of pictures it takes and I use it a lot. Low light, macro, daylight, it's all good. However, controlling it can be very frustrating at times.
Sometimes I can't get it to respond or take a picture at all. I've used many ROMs and have had the same experience across the board. I'm sure many other Diamond or Touch Pro users have as well. I've found the problem to be that dang circle smart touch ring. It sounds useful to use with the camera but IMHO it only causes more problems than good. Initially I had my camera shoot option set to "Touch and press". I thought I would like to be able to focus first then click the action button after. Like my regular point and shoot. Well, it works some of the time. A lot of times it hangs up or freezes OR... It starts zooming in or out because I accidentally touch the ring.
So with that said, I have since forced my camera to work like the old days. Click of the action button only. I set my shooting option to "Full Press". It still will auto focus on it's own before the shot and then take the picture automatically. I've had no problems with this. It works great even with macro shots. But there is a second step I had to do which is actually more important I think. That is disabling the ring within the camera. To do that go into the the Registry Key: HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch\Camera
Back this key up then proceed to delete everything in it. That will disable the smart touch ring from working within the camera. It still works everywhere else though. I don't see the need to zoom when taking the pic since it's digital zoom anyway. I can zoom on it in the Album afterward. You can still zoom if you want just by pressing the screen and touching it though.
Now my camera has been working like a charm without any hang ups, freezes or accidental zooming. Also when I press the screen to bring up the menu or hit the X it opens up every time too. Now when I reach for my Diamond camera to take a picture I'm much more confident that it will work on demand every time.
Much better for me and maybe you.
Thanks for the tip! I haven't taken the plunge on registry editing yet, but I'll definitely keep this in mind if I decide to. Any chance of releasing the edits as a CAB?
Really shame on HTC for not including this as an option. The combo zoom and shoot button is ridiculous.
I removed the entries from HKLM\Software\HTC\SmartTouch\Camera as you recommended also set the shoot option to Full Press and now i'm pretty pleased with my HTC Touch Diamond's camera. Thanks for sharing this info with us!
It would be great if someone could mod the camera app to use power button as shutter button similar to how right shoulder button was used in the xperia play mod app allowing you to hold it to focus and release it to take a picture.
ps3taker said:
It would be great if someone could mod the camera app to use power button as shutter button similar to how right shoulder button was used in the xperia play mod app allowing you to hold it to focus and release it to take a picture.
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Already been talked about here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2141755&highlight=dedicated you will need root access but it can be done
Thanks - the other posts were slightly broader discussing lack of dedicated camera button, etc - I can live without a hardware button to launch camera up and very happy how zooming works with the volume rocker and would not want to lose that.
Also old camera mod app for xperia Play did not require root but xperia play mod used R trigger not power button so maybe you are right about root access.
I know power button can be used for ending calls in other xperia phones if enabled in accessibility menu - I wonder if the camera shutter option can be added in the similar fashion as an alternative to modding the stock camera app.
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Thanks - the other posts were slightly broader discussing lack of dedicated camera button, etc - I can live without a hardware button to launch camera up and very happy how zooming works with the volume rocker and would not want to lose that.
Also old camera mod app for xperia Play did not require root but xperia play mod used R trigger not power button so maybe you are right about root access.
I know power button can be used for ending calls in other xperia phones if enabled in accessibility menu - I wonder if the camera shutter option can be added in the similar fashion as an alternative to modding the stock camera app.
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I hope so, I was a bit miffed when I found out their wasn't a camera button but it was the speaker....as this will be my first Sony device and most of their devices have had dedicated buttons....but I'm sure someone in XDA will bring out a mod
It should be a camera setting. Yes you'd lose digital zoom but that's fine for me as I'd never use digital zoom anyway.
The positioning of the volume keys would make it ideal and vastly improve the camera thanks to the shortsighted decision not to add a camera button (and thus lose the quick launch feature, which isn't possible to replicate just by having a camera icon on the lock screen).
When I went to take a picture yesterday I assumed that the button was to take a picture, was very disappointed when the screen just went black lol
Looks like this is going to be yet another phone that I am never going to take pictures with, I hate having to find the correct place on the screen to take a picture, once it has finally auto focused properly.
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When I went to take a picture yesterday I assumed that the button was to take a picture, was very disappointed when the screen just went black lol
Looks like this is going to be yet another phone that I am never going to take pictures with, I hate having to find the correct place on the screen to take a picture, once it has finally auto focused properly.
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Or you can download and use CameraZoom FX.
1. The volume button and power button are too close together. The amount of times I went to reach the power button to turn off the display and accidentally took a screenshot by pressing power and volume down together.
2. The back is way too slippery. If the phone is on my bed and and leaning on the mattress slightly, the phone moves. Even just tapping the screen to navigate makes the phone slowly move away. Have to keep putting the case back on.
3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out.
4. Battery is good but not what I was expecting. Same as my Mate 9 battery life and yet I thought the Kirin 970 was 50% more efficient than the 960.
5. Wish camera had more slow motion speeds.
6. Persistent Android System notification but that's an Oreo thing and not a Huawei thing.
Having said all that I love this phone and it's the best phone I ever had.
Only had mine two days so more annoyances will probably come to light.
Agree about the power/volume button positioning.
Also since I've got a glass screen protector on it, it's a bit harder to access the sensor (have to press down into it) which is a bit annoying since it's my main means of navigating back and home as well as unlocking.
Infact the same sensor/button being used for both back (short press) and home (long press) is also awkward as I frequently do one when I mean to do the other.
Finally, it seems a bit complicated seemingly with multiple apps and settings for the same thing (though I am coming from Windows Mobile which might seem simpler as it didn't have many apps)
Agree great phone though (probably my best ever also)
I just got my mate 10 (alp-l29,black,4gb) from UAE.
1. Inability to theme notification/quick toggle area - stays black no matter what theme you apply. Looks out of place considering all notifications except spotify are light/white themed.
2.home button with 3 functions is not as easy to manage as I thought, but I will have to get used to it, since i aint giving away screen real estate and use on screen buttons on this monster.
3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
Otherwise I love this phone. Its fast, lag free. Kinda fat, but in combo with the weight, I like how it sits in my hand.
For the first time I quible only about thickness. Anything over 8mm feels a little thick...
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3. Gloves don't work with the front mounted sensor button. Not really blaming Huawei for that, but if out and about and gloved, you can't press the home button as the sensor won't work. I disabled my navigation bar which is the main reason I got this phone for full screen real estate. Thank God I can add the Navigation Floating Dock on the Quick Tiles so I can enable and use that when gloved and out..
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Well to update my post, I just tried with a very thin pair of unlined black leather gloves I own and in fact the sensor button DOES work while gloved. So I can press it to go back and forth and navigate as usual. It does not work with fingerprint recognition apps/phone unlocking of course, but once you are in, they do work.
FYI they are a UK brand: Dents Extra Soft 3000 silk lined gloves but I ripped out the silk lining to make them unlined and for more flexibility and thinness and to work with the sensor. ?
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3. Display settings in regard of View Mode and Text Size are not perfect, meaning that View Mode setting does not change size of text for notifications and they just look to big unless you use small text, but then again small text and default viewing area makes other areas look to big like whatsapp, chrome and so on. the best setting for perfect view View Mode - Small, Text Size - Normal, while taking into account that in such combo your notifications will be large/too large to fit notification are when you receive 3-4 messages/emails.
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UPDATE.
I found a solution to this issue where none of the combinations of View Mode and Text Size settings give you ideally looking system, meaning not too large or not too tiny. At default everything looks to large IMO and they should done better on qhd 6.0” screen. If not by default, view mode needs 5 not 3 steps.
So far the best I got is with this combo of settings:
1. View Mode and Text Size at Small;
2. Dpi @392 (under Developer Settings).
With this settings I believe the text size and viewing area is appropriate for qhd 6” screen.
For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action, sometimes it ends up detecting my swipe as a tap, and going back accidentally
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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For me,
I simply hate the single button implementation. Especially for recent task action,
If one button is indeed a must, then i prefer the Meizu style implementation, where i can simply swipe up from bottom screen to access recent.
Current huawei implementation is too slow to my liking, not to mention, its a waste of space, since we can actually put something next to the button
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I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
snachez said:
I thikn the one button is great. but the beauty of android is that you can simply change to something like Nova Launcher and get this swipe-up-for-recents functionality :good:
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Well that might be true if we are on home page,
But if we are still using an app, swiping up will only do scrolling :silly: , and the point of getting into recent screen is of course, for switching between app
Also,
I kinda expect by this time, huawei would already implement off screen gesture. At least for skipping song,
I mount my phone on my car center dash often, using maps and streaming spotify,
Without off screen gesture, its too troublesome, since i need to reach the phone while driving (not to mention its dangerous)
Because of this, now most of that job done by my Meizu Pro 7
They already implement "Knock & Draw" feature to launch app, so i dont see why they still cant get offscreen gesture
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Don't need that for Mate 10. Its one tap on fp to wake.
Hi. I don'l line che "twin app" that is no wotking with other launchers and there isn't a toggle to manage the duble sim (favorite ecc..)
maniyoshi said:
I miss the double tap to wake.
Do you have an app for this ?
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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Yes. I missed double tap to wake. Huawei should not remove the set data limit feature as well.
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I thought data limit is still there? In mobile data setting.
Or are we talking about different thing ?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I overall like the phone but couple things
Camera is disappointing. Not as good as expecting. I do believe it's the software side letting it down. I was more impressed with the pixel 1 and HTC u11 camera
Battery life could be better. It's good but should be better with the battery size. Again seems needs more software tweaks. Inside just browsing with WiFi I can get up to 7-8 hours SOT. it just seems when I'm at work. I use a little sat nav and mobile data and a bit of music streaming it drains quickly. Just as quick as phones with smaller battery's
The software. I like emui . I like it a lot more than I thought. But it definitely is a bit buggy here and there ..again software updates could improve this
Another really picky thing...even though I really can't notice this isn't a 2k screen and is 1080p and it's a gorgeous screen. It still would have been nice to have the option. Especially since all flagships at this price and above have 2k screens
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- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
Shady282 said:
- I don't know... different people report different experience. I mean some people are getting a lot of SOT and some not. which is quite confusing.
- also, the same regarding the camera, some say it is amazing some say not that good, check this post, what do you think about it:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/mate-10-vs-pixel-2-xl-camera-t3707909
according to these pics, Mate 10 definitely wins over pixel 2 xl !
well these 2 things are what is going to make me buy the mate 10 in few days. so i was looking for reviews around the web to make up mind.
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The camera definitely isn't bad. But hasn't given me that wow factor. Especially in low light. Like I said I think after a couple software updates things will improve slot. No doubt the battery is good but could be better considering the Battery size
I've switched from One Plus 2 to Mate 10 and I think the Mate 10 could use some gestures,like hold home button to lock the phone etc. Right now, it's just pressing the power button to lock the phone. Bugs me.
The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro. Besides, another thing that irks me is the fact that we can't mute the shutter sound in 3rd party apps even when you're in silent mode. Like if my phone is in silent mode and I want to send a pic using the whatsapp camera, i can't disable the sound.
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The other thing i've noticed is that, there's no dark theme on Mate 10, but there's dark theme on the Mate 10 pro.
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That's because the Mate 10 Pro has an OLED screen and white backgrounds consume more power, so they give you the option to use black backgrounds to save power. The standard Mate 10 has an LCD screen and white backgrounds be are not an issue.
The always on display which doesn't display any useful notifications is quite annoying.
Dial *#*#1597#*#* on the dialer this will open the camera app. Switch to video mode, Click on the red letter on the right top Lens: Back (Dual)(0) double click on that until you get the Lens: Back (Wide)(3) . Recording works fine from there, but need to do the same every time you need the wide angle.
Thanks!! It works! You rock man!
This is actually super good alternative until Oneplus let us do it by default. Thank you.
The wide lens can only record at 1080p?
The quality in lower light is worse than default video, obviously. But great to have! Someone needs to make a shortcut or something that jumps straight into this, until OnePlus gives us the ability.
Looks like you can just double tap anywhere to switch which camera is used. Seems like this is debug mode for the Camera app. I wonder if this has been includes since 9.5.0 or recently added. Indicating OnePlus indeed started working on this feature.
Hi Guys,
in EMUI 9 it was possible to change zoom level by dragging/sliding your finger over any side of the camera screen -- i.e. not limited to the side which is showing the actual zoom control.
After flashing to EMUI 10, I can only zoom by dragging/sliding over the actual zoom control.
This is terrible because in the landscape mode, the zoom control is always displayed horizontally - and thus not reachable by with the same hand which is holding the phone (single-handed camera operation).
For me this basically kills the usability of this phone (and the upcoming P40) to the point when I'm not using it anymore as my primary. (There's always something else in my other hand, e.g. dog leashes.)
On S10+ the Camera is perfectly usable in landscape in single-handed mode (right hand).
Anyone else experiencing this? Any remedies?
ypocat said:
Hi Guys,
in EMUI 9 it was possible to change zoom level by dragging/sliding your finger over any side of the camera screen -- i.e. not limited to the side which is showing the actual zoom control.
After flashing to EMUI 10, I can only zoom by dragging/sliding over the actual zoom control.
This is terrible because in the landscape mode, the zoom control is always displayed horizontally - and thus not reachable by with the same hand which is holding the phone (single-handed camera operation).
For me this basically kills the usability of this phone (and the upcoming P40) to the point when I'm not using it anymore as my primary. (There's always something else in my other hand, e.g. dog leashes.)
On S10+ the Camera is perfectly usable in landscape in single-handed mode (right hand).
Anyone else experiencing this? Any remedies?
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You can still pinch to zoom anywhere on the view finder with EMUI 10
*Detection* said:
You can still pinch to zoom anywhere on the view finder with EMUI 10
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Not sure if you have even read my post.
Try to pinch with the same hand that is holding the phone.
ypocat said:
Not sure if you have even read my post.
Try to pinch with the same hand that is holding the phone.
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Yes I read it and I gave you the next best solution, option is gone
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Yes I read it and I gave you the next best solution, option is gone
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Please quit spamming thanks.
Even Oppo knows how to do it, they placed the zoom bar vertically in the landscape mode. So that it's reachable with SINGLE HAND.