XZ2 and Lightroom - Sony Xperia XZ2 Questions & Answers

Has anyone tried to import the XZ2 photos to Lightroom? I'm having lots of problems. It seems for some photos it may have lost the 16:9 aspect ratio? Hard to reproduce, since the latest system update a few days ago it doesn't seem to happen anymore. Not sure if I'm going insane or if it really happened.
Then there's another elephant in the room: Lightroom Classic CC seems unable to read the date tag in the EXIF data? Never had this issue before with any camera I've ever used. But other programs can read the EXIF data? It's all very odd. Photo orientation seems to be interpreted wrongly too.
Am I the only one having issues? Now I'm using a third party tool to rename the files according to the EXIF data.
Btw., it's very annoying that every time you move all photos to your computer the counter is being reset... I know few cameras that behave that way. For good reason.

Switch to 4:3
Then you get 19MP
16:9 has only 12MP or 17MP

It's not that easy. With 16:9 you get a wider image, with 5500 pixels instead of 5000. So in scenes where you want to capture as much of a landscape (for example) as possible you'll absolutely benefit from 16:9. Also, the MP don't really matter. I wish the sensor had a lower resolution.

I've found the solution to some of my issues... Lightroom has problems when it keeps importing files of the same name, and the XZ2 keeps resetting the counter to 1...

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How to Save 3 pictures per shoot, RAW, Jpg and Monochrome? In the same shoot.

Hello,
would it be possible to make the phone to save 3 types of pictures per shoot instead of 2? I meant that I would like the phone saving RAW, jpg and Monochrome samples of every shoot instead of saving only Raw and color jpg.
Is there anyway of modding camera app to get this feature?
Thank you.
I don't even know how to take 2 pictures ?
How you do that?
going from raw to monochrome in post is not good enough ?
EDIT: i did not think this trough..... of course its not good enough .... otherwise you would no have asked.... silly me
Yes. In raw mode the phone saves 2 pictures.
I need it to save 3 or raw color and monochrome at least. I use them to stack a picture in photoshop and the result is amazing IMO, but I must take two shoots, hence the pictures are different, specially in long exposure.
I need a way to take raw color and monochrome in one single shoot.
I am thinking about the same problem: raw+Monochrome should do magic.
But when switching from raw to MCh phone changes the angle/positioning so its imposible to take 2 identical photos...
That's not much of a problem. A bit of tweaking with photoshop and done.
But I wonder why both pictures are so different in angle and size. A matter of lens?
Two crops of 100% size pictures. First one is the Jpg that saves the phone. The second one is a merge between Raw and monochrome pictures in photoshop, not quite elaborated:

Heads up - Dont use the default Huawei Photo Editor to crop

I tried cropping a 20mp 4:3 ratio image to 16:9 ratio using the built in huawei gallery app - It SHRUNK the whole photo to 3.6megapixel completely wrecking it
Any other image editor will correctly crop to 16:9 and you end up with a (correctly cropped) 14.7megapixel photo.
I contacted Huawei live support - they repeated it there end while i waited and apologised for the problem as it does it for them as well. Should be fixed in a later update I guess but for now....DONT use the huawei app for cropping at all. Im new to these forums and tried to attach a attachment but if it didnt work - you can see the result here I passed onto huawei https://ibb.co/cxAqQy
dan mc said:
I tried cropping a 20mp 4:3 ratio image to 16:9 ratio using the built in huawei gallery app - It SHRUNK the whole photo to 3.6megapixel completely wrecking it
Any other image editor will correctly crop to 16:9 and you end up with a (correctly cropped) 14.7megapixel photo.
I contacted Huawei live support - they repeated it there end while i waited and apologised for the problem as it does it for them as well. Should be fixed in a later update I guess but for now....DONT use the huawei app for cropping at all. Im new to these forums and tried to attach a attachment but if it didnt work - you can see the result here I passed onto huawei https://ibb.co/cxAqQy
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I just tried it on my USA branded Mate 10 Pro and it shaved off some of the size (due to the crop) but other than that it all worked fine.
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dan mc said:
I tried cropping a 20mp 4:3 ratio image to 16:9 ratio using the built in huawei gallery app - It SHRUNK the whole photo to 3.6megapixel completely wrecking it
Any other image editor will correctly crop to 16:9 and you end up with a (correctly cropped) 14.7megapixel photo.
I contacted Huawei live support - they repeated it there end while i waited and apologised for the problem as it does it for them as well. Should be fixed in a later update I guess but for now....DONT use the huawei app for cropping at all. Im new to these forums and tried to attach a attachment but if it didnt work - you can see the result here I passed onto huawei https://ibb.co/cxAqQy
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Same here. 3840x5120 4:3 becomes 1920x1080 16:9
Thanks for the heads up!
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Try the 20mp setting (Ive not confirmed its a issue with 12mp on mine yet but will give it a try later on today) I should of provided my phone details sorry - Im in australia "Mate 10" (not pro) ALP-L29 8.0.0.132 (c636) Was confirmed as a bug by a huawei live support (they asked me to wait while they reproduced the issue themselves)
Just as a update - I ran the same test on the phones 12mp setting - The 16:9 crop using Huawei editor crops *correctly* for 12mp photos (just not 20mp photos) *edit - my tests were both done in landscape mode dunno if that makes a difference or not, but sounds like 20mp vertical/portrait photos also have the issue from another user*
I have a p20 lite and I have the same problem with 16mp photos.
The standard gallery app resizes every edited 16mp photo to a smaller resolution size on save (or when opening the editor, don't know).
Is this also the case with you guys or only when cropping your large size images?
It does this for every type of edit or tweak I've tried so far.
This is not a problem on the standard editor on the p8 (but maybe that is because the max 13 mp on that camera was 'small enough' for the editor).
My old phone HTC one mini 2 standard editor did also resize every photo (this was not updated in the years of use) . And since (at least with me) it seems to be a problem with every type of edit,
I'm not sure whether this is a mistake or deliberate...?
I'll test an edit on a 16 mp image or larger on the p8 later. If it doesn't resize the photos there:
Maybe there is a way to use the old p8 gallery app on newer models?
I even prefer an aspect of that editor (numeral indicators with the sliders instead of none)
It's possible to disable the gallery app? I'd like to replace it by Google photos.
JEELK said:
I have a p20 lite and I have the same problem with 16mp photos.
The standard gallery app resizes every edited 16mp photo to a smaller resolution size on save (or when opening the editor, don't know).
Is this also the case with you guys or only when cropping your large size images?
It does this for every type of edit or tweak I've tried so far.
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I tried a couple other photo edits using the stock editor (not cropping) and it shrunk my photos again (12mp photos were affected as well) Ive just outright abandoned the default editor as a complete buggy waste of time its pretty obvious the huawei programmers arnt very good at their job
Tiago A said:
It's possible to disable the gallery app? I'd like to replace it by Google photos.
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yes, you can change the default photo app using the default apps setting
the crop seems fine to me though

P20 Pro camera - Problems in Jpeg compression at 40mp

Personally, I just realized that even taking photos at 40mp with the stock camera a high compression ratio is applied without any criteria. I took several identical photos and realized that some have a size of 15mb and others were with 3mb. Photos identical with the same settings. I tested other applications and encountered the same problem. Lightroom CC and SnapCamera. Here comes the surprise! With cameringo+ I got files with a bigger size at 40mp. That it would be the right thing to do to others as well. Please take a test and comment.

Problem with snapchat app

I've just bought k20 pro and I noticed the snapchat camera is always zoomed in compared to stock or google camera, is there a way to fix that or am I missing something, because I use snapchat camera way more than stock one and the picture quality in that suffers due to zoom issue
Snapchat does not works well in an android because of lots of other android phones with different screen sizes, chipsets, cameras, etc and the its is not actually zoomed it is stretched due to full screen aspect ratio and quality is **** than stock camera all you can do is use filters or buy an iphone
amar1548 said:
I've just bought k20 pro and I noticed the snapchat camera is always zoomed in compared to stock or google camera, is there a way to fix that or am I missing something, because I use snapchat camera way more than stock one and the picture quality in that suffers due to zoom issue
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It's all because external apps in android don't use hardware camera implementation, instead they are using preview from recording view. There is no way for you to fix it, but app developers can just change implementation. Hovewer they won't probably do it, as there are too much different devices running android.
It's not zoomed in. Keep in mind that you're comparing 4:3 to something like 16:9 to 18:9. It cuts off the sides, which makes it look like it's zoomed in, but it's not.
Nothing can be done. Snapchat, Instagram etc uses the screen capture of the view finder,so the quality of the pics will be trash. To get optimized and good results go for iPhone.(any variant)

Raw/DNG images have bad barrel distortion, JPEG are fine

I'm hoping someone has seen this before. I set Camera to record DNG + JPEG, but when I look at the images side-by-side, I can see that the Raw / DNG images look stretched. Some images, e.g. ones with straight lines, the effect is more easily seen.
I've tried using Lightroom to correct for barrel distortion, but its correction actually goes in the wrong direction. I need it to do a "negative" correction, which it won't do.
It's a shame to have a tool that can work with Raw images but my phone can't generate a clean Raw image. Anyone dealt with this before?
Just to clarify what I'm trying to describe, the distortion is like someone is stretching my photo from behind, almost like putting their fist in the center of the image from behind and pushing / stretching it out towards me. The correction in Lightroom just pushes it even further towards me.
Thanks!
-- Ethan
That's because they are the raw images with minimal processing and all the data captured by the sensor. Post editing is needed. The also have extended exposure and WB, up to 3 full f/stops. The downside is your need to do post editing to fully exploit the data.
In jpeg mode the processor makes many of the choices for you automatically when it converts the data into a jpeg and limits your editing options. Much of the original image data is gone.
blackhawk said:
That's because they are the raw images with minimal processing and all the data captured by the sensor. Post editing is needed. The also have extended exposure and WB, up to 3 full f/stops. The downside is your need to do post editing to fully exploit the data.
In jpeg mode the processor makes many of the choices for you automatically when it converts the data into a jpeg and limits your editing options. Much of the original image data is gone.
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I expect that post-processing is needed, except there is no way that I can find to correct for this. So any info on how to do the correction is appreciated. As I mentioned, Lightroom's correction that is meant for this issue goes in the wrong direction, which suggests that my phone's cameras may be out of spec but internally it knows how to correct for it when it makes the jpeg.
FoggyEthan said:
I expect that post-processing is needed, except there is no way that I can find to correct for this. So any info on how to do the correction is appreciated. As I mentioned, Lightroom's correction that is meant for this issue goes in the wrong direction, which suggests that my phone's cameras may be out of spec but internally it knows how to correct for it when it makes the jpeg.
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Each model lense is a different geometry and needs a different correction algorithm. If Google doesn't provide an app it may be difficult to correct it easily.
It maybe it's Lightroom that's screwed up... Assuming it "knows" what cam and lense it's correcting for. Don't know not familiar with that software.
Or simply avoid saving in dng with the wide angle lense... my Samsung doesn't seem to have the raw save option for the ultra wide

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