Fire 10 HD 2017 problem with YouTube TV GPS / location services - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I picked up a Fire 10 HD 2017 version, and followed guides here to add Google Play (and other 3 associated APK files), which works great. - I was able to installed several Google apps and other apps from the Google Play store.
However, I have hit a roadblock with YouTube TV (not regular YouTube) - Google's streaming TV service. They have a free trial if anyone wants to test this out, but I get an error screen on launch that says "We can't determine your device's location" - and I can't get it to load. All the settings for Location-Based Services are toggled on (overall and specific to the app, and all apps). I have tried with option for Google Play as a Device Administrator both checked and unchecked. Google Maps detects my location and works fine. I am not running any VPN or similar apps, so this is purely GPS based. Tried to use a fake GPS location app (and allow that in developer settings) but that didn't help.
From what I have read, others have had GPS problems - some sort of conflict between the Amazon GPS and the Google GPS expectations. Something about "AGPS" being limited in some ways on the Fire 10 HD.
Has anyone seen this issue and found a workaround or solution? Could be for a related app maybe. I was also unable to get streams to play in the Chrome browser, which would be a fine workaround, so I need something to work here. One of the main purposes of a tablet for me will be YouTube TV. Thanks - appreciate any help.

I'm having the same issue with the Hulu app and the Maps app that comes with the Fire HD 10. I installed Google Play Store and Google Maps (using the APKs like you). Google Maps didn't work at first, however after DISabling the tablet's location services and trying Google Maps again, I got a prompt for enabling current location for Google to which I clicked on yes. Now Google Maps is working!! Sadly, the generic Maps app and Hulu are still not working. Have you had any more luck?
P.S. after speaking with an Amazon tier 2 support rep, they said they are going to get in touch with a developer and get Hulu working. I'll believe it when I see it!

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Does Kindle Fire HD not allow Google Play apps?

I was looking at getting this, but then I heard that, even though its Android based, it doesn't have the standard apps (maps, gmail, etc.) and it doesn't have Google Play allowing you to download apps...? Thanks.
Legaleye3000 said:
I was looking at getting this, but then I heard that, even though its Android based, it doesn't have the standard apps (maps, gmail, etc.) and it doesn't have Google Play allowing you to download apps...? Thanks.
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Amazon wants you to stay in their own ecosystem. You will need to root your kindle fire HD in order install the google play store and to properly install some of the other google apps. The play store however is not a 100% sure way that all apps can be downloaded because it will still tell you on some apps that "this device isn't supported" so you will still have to side load anyways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895040

[Q] fire is 4.1.1 google play services unsupported?

Within the last few days, Amazon updated kindle fire is to include a bunch of new features. Before the update, I had side loaded many of the Google apps, including of course the compulsory Google play services.
However, after the update, I could not start the YouTube app whatsoever. I tried many combinations of old versions of the YouTube app, and old versions of the Google play services app, but it still did not work. I then tried using the google play music app, which told me that google play services was not supported on the device. I could not even open Google settings.
The update was to kindle fire os 4.1.1, and to android 4.4.2.
Is this a problem that many people are having, or is it just me? Are there any work arounds?

TuneIn App

So I got the Pioneer 8100NEX setup last night. After flashing OxygenOS on my phone (BlissPop wouldn't work due to the DPI issue) I am up and running with Android Auto. However, when going through the music app option all I have is Google Music. The other main app I use for tunes and general listening is TuneIn which, while installed and apparently should work, is not showing up. I searched the settings for TuneIn and didn't notice anything obvious. Is this a Pioneer setting I am going to wait for or am I missing something obvious? Thanks!
I realize this is a dusty post, but did you ever get TuneIn to appear in AA? I'm having the same issue on my Nexus 6P.
Allow me to spray some Pledge/Endust on this topic as well. I have a Moto X Pure Edition running TruPureXMM 2.6 and I just purchased a 2016 Honda Civic EX with Android Auto built-in. Everything about it works great: Maps, Hangouts, Play Music with voice search, the whole thing. EXCEPT: similar to the posters above, when touching the Audio button to see other apps, the only app listed is Google Play Music. I should also note that I have multiple Auto-compatible audio apps in addition to TuneIn Radio Pro; I also have BeyondPod, Pandora, and iHeartRadio. None of them appear. Google support is non-existent at this point, which is a little unsettling as more and more carmakers are offering stock options with Android Auto.
I'm not any kind of expert, but I'm wondering if this is a side effect of having a rooted and/or custom ROM installed. Mine is stock based for my phone but it is rooted and I see that the OP had a custom ROM as well. I don't know what you are running @monorailmedic. Any information or assistance from someone who has experienced this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Do you have any adblock app running on your phone?
johannvonperfect said:
Allow me to spray some Pledge/Endust on this topic as well...
...I should also note that I have multiple Auto-compatible audio apps in addition to TuneIn Radio Pro; I also have BeyondPod, Pandora, and iHeartRadio. None of them appear. Google support is non-existent at this point, which is a little unsettling as more and more carmakers are offering stock options with Android Auto.
I'm not any kind of expert, but I'm wondering if this is a side effect of having a rooted and/or custom ROM installed. Mine is stock based for my phone but it is rooted and I see that the OP had a custom ROM as well. I don't know what you are running @monorailmedic. Any information or assistance from someone who has experienced this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I am running the stock ROM on a Nexus 6P. All of my other audio apps appear (BeyondPod, DoggCatcher, NPR One, Google Play Music...)
themissionimpossible said:
Do you have any adblock app running on your phone?
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I have none.
themissionimpossible said:
Do you have any adblock app running on your phone?
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I do have AdAway. I will try disabling it the next time I am in my car. However...
monorailmedic said:
I am running the stock ROM on a Nexus 6P. All of my other audio apps appear (BeyondPod, DoggCatcher, NPR One, Google Play Music...)
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I have none.
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Curiouser and curiouser. I will mention that I tried disabling USB Debugging and that did not have any effect.
johannvonperfect said:
I do have AdAway. I will try disabling it the next time I am in my car.
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Disabling AdAway had no effect. However, I believe I have resolved the issue.
I mentioned that I have TuneIn Radio Pro, but I did not mention that I got it through the Amazon App Store rather than Google Play. (It was a free app of the day many moons ago.) I installed the regular version of TuneIn from the Play Store and...voila, it appeared in Auto. Same thing with the other apps - I had installed them outside of Google Play, and apparently Auto doesn't like that. Reinstalling through the Play Store got me up and running.
I don't know if that scenario is also your issue @monorailmedic, but mine has been resolved this way.
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I mentioned that I have TuneIn Radio Pro, but I did not mention that I got it through the Amazon App Store rather than Google Play. (It was a free app of the day many moons ago.) I installed the regular version of TuneIn from the Play Store and...voila, it appeared in Auto. Same thing with the other apps - I had installed them outside of Google Play, and apparently Auto doesn't like that. Reinstalling through the Play Store got me up and running.
I don't know if that scenario is also your issue @monorailmedic, but mine has been resolved this way.
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I too got the Pro version from Amazon years ago when it was a freebie. I'll try downloading the version from the Play Store in the morning. I wrote to TuneIn today, so if this is the issue, it'd be swell if they provided me the key to the newer pro version via the Play Store.
johannvonperfect said:
Disabling AdAway had no effect. However, I believe I have resolved the issue.
I mentioned that I have TuneIn Radio Pro, but I did not mention that I got it through the Amazon App Store rather than Google Play.
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In fact, I mentioned a possible block because IMHO the apps for Android Auto can't work if they aren't able to contact the Google Play store for license activation.
johannvonperfect said:
I believe I have resolved the issue.
I mentioned that I have TuneIn Radio Pro, but I did not mention that I got it through the Amazon App Store rather than Google Play. (It was a free app of the day many moons ago.) I installed the regular version of TuneIn from the Play Store and...voila, it appeared in Auto. Same thing with the other apps - I had installed them outside of Google Play, and apparently Auto doesn't like that. Reinstalling through the Play Store got me up and running.
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Interesting... Besides license validation of protected apps (which the dev controls) this is the first instance I recall hearing where sideloaded apps won't work.
Developers of AA compatible apps can't just sideload either, even just for testing. App has to go through Google Play as a special AA beta test.
Google requires that all AA compatible apps (and their updates) be tested by them and approved for not being distracting. This is part of their protection for that. Sideloaded or Amazon etc. apps can't be guaranteed to have gone through this testing. (Actually an MD5 of the APK or similar could be done, but that could be abused on rooted devices and Google prefers everything goes through Play anyway.)
So, how are you all using TuneIn? I've been immensely disappointed that there's no favorites/presets list available via AA. Nor is there even the recent stations list available. So, how in the world do you access the stations you want? The lists that are available seem really truncated and have only strange channels I've never heard of. I was able to use voice commands once but now that isn't working and one of my stations wasn't accessible that way either. So, the whole app seems to be essentially useless to me via the AA interface. Bluetooth streaming still works, but defeats the purpose and of course then there's no access to any of the other aspects of AA.
monorailmedic said:
I too got the Pro version from Amazon years ago when it was a freebie. I'll try downloading the version from the Play Store in the morning. I wrote to TuneIn today, so if this is the issue, it'd be swell if they provided me the key to the newer pro version via the Play Store.
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I too have the pro version from Amazon, which i got for free. In order to get it to work with Android Auto you have to install it using google play as the vendor. Same goes with other apps that you sideload
1. Install Tunein Pro from Amazon Store.
2. Save the apk installer file using es Explorer. hxxp://android.stackexchange.com/questions/75360/is-it-possible-to-backup-apk-from-an-installed-application
3. Uninstall Tunein Pro
4. Reinstall using ADB hxxps://pixplicity.com/setting-install-vendor-debug-app/
I tested it and it works
You can also "unblock" non-play store apps in AA. Open AA on your phone, then go to "information" then tap many times on the upper bar... it will reveal "developer options". Now tap on 3-dot menu and set developer mode. You should see more apps through car headunit.

Google Cast replaced

Don't know if anyone else has noticed but Google Cast has been replace by Google Home. I had updated my daily use stock ROM this past week and when I started to cast my Nascar Raceview app to my 40" monitor Sunday, the Google Cast app was missing. And it wasn't available in Play Store. In a panic, I restored an earlier ROM version and proceeded to watch the race.
Upon a more leisurely investigation this morning, I found that it wasn't really missing but had been replaced by Google Home. Apparently Google has just bundled Google Cast with a bunch of other stuff for controlling Chromecast and other "streaming devices", into one app. It works fine but I just wish Google had at least put a notice in Play Store to use Google Home instead of Google Cast.

Google Play Synchronization

So I have one of the $49 Kindle Fires and I have successfully installed Google Play, Play Services, Account Managements, and Services Framework and gotten everything to work. One of the games my kids enjoy playing is Disney Crossy Road. I know this is in the Amazon App Store, but one of the issues with it being in Amazon is they don't save progress, plus I use my account across my kids devices. If I make each kid a Google account, they have their own cloud save for the game. I got this all working on my daughter's Fire and it syncs with her Google Play account.
We just recently purchased my son one of the $49 Kindle Fires and I tried to do the same thing for him. I used Method #2 found here: lifehacker[dot]com/how-to-get-google-play-on-a-kindle-fire-and-install-any-1790706649 to install Google Play on his Kindle. I have installed 4 games from Google Play on his Kindle including Tiny Tower, Township, and Disney Crossy Road. I have the settings to allow non-Amazon apps to run. Tiny Tower and Township sync up with his Google Play account with no problem. But his Disney Crossy Road does not sync with Google Play. Google Play says it is installed and I can click the Play button from it and it will open the app, but none of the achievements pop, and when I open it on my daughter's Kindle, in the settings, there is a button with the gamepad icon to show it's synced. I cannot get this icon to show on my son's Fire. I have reinstalled the app 4-5 times and rebooted the tablet. I even tried downloading the app from apkmirror.com to see if that would help, but I cannot get it to work.
Are there any suggestions on how I can get Disney Crossy Road to sync with Google Play? Thanks for your help!
"Google Play" is a whole suite of different apps, not all of which are installed by default when you sideload the "Google Play Store".
Open up the Google Play Store, and search for "Google Play Games". Install that, and see if your games start syncing then?
EDIT: This is what I'm talking about:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.play.games&hl=en
crazyates said:
"Google Play" is a whole suite of different apps, not all of which are installed by default when you sideload the "Google Play Store".
Open up the Google Play Store, and search for "Google Play Games". Install that, and see if your games start syncing then?
EDIT: This is what I'm talking about:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.play.games&hl=en
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If you can't install Google Play Games from the Play Store (-505 error) grab a copy from APKMirror and sideload.
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-games/
Davey126 said:
If you can't install Google Play Games from the Play Store (-505 error) grab a copy from APKMirror and sideload.
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Wow, I swore I responded yesterday but I also have Google Play Games installed. I am able to see his achievements for other games through this, that is how I know his other games are syncing properly. Any other ideas?
ToddAtWSU said:
Wow, I swore I responded yesterday but I also have Google Play Games installed. I am able to see his achievements for other games through this, that is how I know his other games are syncing properly. Any other ideas?
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Not at the individual app level - sorry.
So I was playing around with this a little more and went into the Google Settings app. Inside here, there is a link for the Connected Apps section and I noticed Disney Crossy Road is not here. Any ideas if there is a way through here that I can try to enable the connection?
Thanks again!
ToddAtWSU said:
So I was playing around with this a little more and went into the Google Settings app. Inside here, there is a link for the Connected Apps section and I noticed Disney Crossy Road is not here. Any ideas if there is a way through here that I can try to enable the connection?
Thanks again!
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The app must request access (typically on initial launch)...and you must grant it. There is no mechanism for auto-authorization or forcing a manual request (obvious acuity implications).
So I got it to work last night! I don't know which of the two things did it, but I reinstalled the app again but this time in game, I set his age to 18. Then from Google Play, I said I wanted to record in game footage. After playing the intro level, it synced with Google Play. For my daughter's Fire,I put her actual age and it worked. That's why I'm not sure which change fixed it, but now it works! Thanks for your help and suggestions!

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